WINNER -- MAY COOKBOOK OF MONTH -Flexitarian Table
Well, I've totted up the votes and the winner with by far the most votes, is THE FLEXITARIAN TABLE by Peter Berley (13 votes)
These books were next in line (in order):
Diana Kennedy (several books) - 5
Spice - 4
Bombay Kitchen - 3
World Vegetarian Cooking - 3
Julie Sahni - 2
Cradle of Flavor, Tapas, and Crescent City - 1 each
In a couple of weeks, I'll put up the threads for the various chapters in Flex. It presents a challenge since the recipes are set out in 2 categories: Season of year and Menu. I'm thinking of making the threads courses (dessert, meat main, veg main, salads, etc.) to make it more friendly to those looking for recipes for individual dishes rather than whole meals.
Any suggestions are gladly accepted.
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OK I'm excited, giddy even hehe I just ordered Flexitarian Table and (on spec, and because I want it anyway) Pure Desserts from chapters.indigo.ca woohoo! I may not be able to cook my way through from one end to the other but I love that the focus is on seasonal ingredients and I need to get better acquainted with tofu. I can't wait for May! (and the mail lol) :)
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re: maplesugar
Hi I have just purchased FT and am very excited to join COTM (for the first time). I have been living vicariously through all of you the past few months and actually made some of the Dunlop recipes (yum!) last month without posting. I am looking forward to being more involved this coming month and am also eagerly awaiting the results of the dessert book.
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re: tartetatin
Welcome from another COTM newbie. (Hopkinson is only my second month.) You're welcome to post in the Dunlop threads, by the way, even though it's technically "over."
P.S. You may have noticed there are no dessert recipes in F.T. Coincidentally, but conveniently (I think she's psychic), oakjoan is kicking off a DCOTM--a dessert cookbook of the month project. We are still voting on the choice for DCOTM, which will reign for two months, if you're interested. oakjoan said she'd keep the voting open until Weds night, http://www.chowhound.com/topics/513912
~TDQ
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re: The Dairy Queen
Thanks TDQ - I don't know if my bank acct can take another cookbook purchase this month! Perhaps I will try to get by with online recipes once the voting has finished. Thanks for the link - I will check out the choices.
By the way, I really admire how hard you have worked to modify recipes to fit the way that you are eating. Very creative!-
re: tartetatin
Thank you tartetatin--sometimes it's hard to gauge how good the recipes are when I'm changing them around, but, I want to both participate and stick with my diet! I'm glad someone is finding my approach interesting/helpful--I would never want it to be a distraction from the COTM project in general.
The online recipes are a good option if you don't want to buy another cookbook (I don't blame you!) or you can see if your local library has the book. I've been lucky so far that my library has had all the COTM's!
~TDQ
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My copy just came today too. So I am psyched.
Maybe flexitarian sounds too much like utilitarian. But I agree too -- the concept is great.
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re: karykat
I like the concept but one thing that annoys me is that, while the recipes are side-by-side for the vegetarian vs meat based, he doesn't really tell you how to do both; I mean, they use much of the same ingredients, but you have to piece it together yourself. He doesn't say something like "you can make the marinade up to this point, divide it into two, add the tofu to one pan, then add some sherry vinegar to the other and add the meat (I'm making this example up, but I hope you get what I mean). If the whole point is to be able to do *both* easily, then don't make us figure out the overlap.
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re: DGresh
Hmmm...do you have the book DGresh? I haven't cooked from it extensively, but my experience has been the opposite. I was looking this morning at some of the recipes that called for tofu and noticed, for instance in the case of the phyllo tart, he has you do all the steps together for both mains and then at some point, the recipes diverge and you have to separate everything into two bowls and you go from there down the separate paths.
One thing that's easier to tell in the book than online is that the recipes are color coded in the book so that the steps for the veggie main have a header in one color and the steps for the other main are in another color...
So, there is an advantage to having the book, I think. Based on only three recipes that I've tried, though.
~TDQ
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re: The Dairy Queen
Yes I do have the book. I admit I've only made one recipe (the tofu with lemon, soy, white wine, and butter sauce) but I don't see how the "overlap" with the bass recipe works. The tofu has ginger and soysauce; the bass doesn't, the proportions of ingredients seem somewhat different and I don't see where the "separation" is noted.
I see that some *are* marked as you described-- but not all-- and of course not the one I tried first!
The way he does the marked recipes looks good--
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re: DGresh
I think that tofu/bass recipe is one of the few exceptions. Most recipes, I think, are laid out the way TDQ and Gio describe. But with the tofu/bass combo, they use different base ingredients. This way, the soy helps to flavor the tofu, while the bass has simpler sauce to highlight the fish.
Many of the protein recipes do start together and then branch off between veggie and non.
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Hmmm. Made my first "flexitarian" recipe tonight (does anyone else HATE that word), and I am reserving judgement for now. It took me two hours! I will post my review when the thread appears next week.
Now, back to Hopkinson!
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re: beetlebug
I made the creamy mixed root soup. I used a mixture of the root veg that has been languishing in my fridge (swede, parsnip, jerusalem artichoke, carrot) and had to simmer it for nearly an hour before they were all tender. Factor in the peeling and chopping time, and the time it took to cook the onion/garlic/ginger and I didn't have dinner until nearly 9pm!
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re: greedygirl
Because they are so hard, I find root vegetables take a long time to chop no matter what you're doing with them. My knife skills are pathetic, I'm afraid.
Still, just about anything you do with root veggies is always so worth it. But, that creamy mixed root soup might be a "prepare one day ahead" recipe, so you don't starve!
~TDQ
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re: The Dairy Queen
Especially when your vegetables are covered in mud like mine!
I was going to make Gordon Ramsay's Caramelised Swede Soup with Cardamom and I wish I had now. It's simply fabulous.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life...
Never mind, at least I have tomorrow's lunch as well...
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I just received my copy today. Looks great! I'm going to try some of the recipes this weekend. We have family coming over (four adults, three kids). We're going to grill some steaks, and I would love recs for appetizers, side dishes, and salads. Anyone care to recommend some favorites of theirs from this book? I don't have any barley, but do have farro and quinoa. I think the quinoa salad with green beans, corn and tomato will be one of the side dishes I want to try first.
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re: Rubee
Well, since you mentioned steak, this steak recipe from summer menu #2 was really good! http://blogs.tampabay.com/food/2007/0... I haven't tried enough of the "non-main" dishes to recommend them.
~TDQ
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re: Rubee
I think this (Fregola Risotto Style with Chard and Feta Cheese) looks delicious but I haven't made it yet:
http://www.chowhound.com/topics/434103#3587953
I also love the corn polenta with cherry tomatoes.
http://www.chowhound.com/topics/43410...
I've also made that corn polenta for breakfast. I top it off with scrambled eggs with avocado and cheese.
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re: beetlebug
Thanks everyone for the suggestions! I didn't even to think to look for a steak recipe in the book. Just picked up some strip steaks, so it looks like the first recipes will be
Steak with Bread Crumb Salsa
Bulgur with Roasted Chickpeas, Red Onion, and Lemon (though I think I'll use couscous too)Maybe something with the harissa shrimp and corn polenta for an appetizer. BB, do you think the shrimp would be good on their own?
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Okay, I've taken all the links and organized them by season and menu. There are a lot of menus missing. If you know of any links I'm missing you can post them here or email them to me (my address is in my profile) and I will organize them and either repost this post fully fleshed out (and ask the mods to delete this one) or just ask the mods to edit this one for me. Thank you.
I promised I'd flag the tofu ones that are fried first for MMRuth. Anything else I should be looking for when I go through the book?
Also, if you're interested in the Giant Seitan/Lamb Turnovers recipe (and note--in the nomenclature of the book, that's either Seitan OR Lamb turnovers, one veg options, one meat option. Not a turnover with seitan and lamb in it...) from Fall Menu #1, I suggest you go grab that right now. It looks like he changes the "featured" recipe each month and doesn't archive them.
SPRING:
Menu 1
http://www.danshamptons.com/content/danspapers/issue13_2007/63.html
Cucumber Lime Raita
Lentil and Rhubarb Curry
Naan Bread
Roasted Spring Carrots with Cumin and LimeMenu 2
Menu 3
http://www.mailtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070613/LIFE/706130301/0/life06
Crispy Pressed Chicken and Tofu with Garlic and Mint
Shaved Spring Vegetable and Apple Salad
Creamy Risotto-style Brown Rice with Spring Greens and AsiagoMenu 4
Menu 5
Menu 6
Menu 7
Menu 8
Menu 9
Menu 10
SUMMER:
Menu 1
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/fea/healthyliving/nutrition/stories/DN-nh_flexrecipes_0619liv.1.State.Edition1.1e38a00.html
SUMMER VEGETABLE SIMMER
Charmoula Lamb/Tempeh Kebabs [MiSSING RECIPE].
Couscous with Dried Fruit and Pine Nuts [MiSSING RECIPE].Menu 2
http://blogs.tampabay.com/food/2007/07/a-flexitaran-re.html
Portobello Mushrooms or Steak with Bread Crumb Salsa
Summer Bean Ratatouille [MiSSING RECIPE].
Argula Salad with Mustard Vinaigrette [MiSSING RECIPE].Menu 3
http://www.nextnc.com/content/view/16074/29/
GRILLED SHRIMP IN HARISSA
FRESH CORN POLENTA WITH SAUTEED CHERRY TOMATOES
GRILLED ZUCCHINI WITH MINT OILMenu 4
Menu 5
Tofu with Lemon, Soy, White Wine and Butter Sauce
http://nowthatsgoodeatin.blogspot.com/2007/07/fortitude-vs-foible.htmlMenu 6
http://astore.amazon.com/busymomsrec0a-20/detail/0618658653
Seafood/Tofu Ceviche with Quick-Pickled Red Onion
Zucchini-Rice Soup with Basil and ParmesanMenu 7
Menu 8
Menu 9
Menu 10
http://www.houghtonmifflinbooks.com/catalog/titledetail.cfm?textType=excerpt&titleNumber=689753
Pepper Soup with Goat Cheese
and Chives
Whole Wheat Pita Bread
Spiced Lamb Croquettes
Falafel
Two Traditional Sauces: Hot Sauce (Zhoug) and Sesame Tahini Sauce
Cucumber, Red Onion, and Tomato SaladFALL:
Menu 1
http://peterberley.com/recipe.php
(This month it’s Giant Seitan/Lamb Turnovers).
Golden Split Pea Dal
Carrot-yogurt chutneyMenu 2
Menu 3
http://www.globalgourmet.com/food/cookbook/2007/flexitarian/index.htmlRoasted Squash Potage with Spiced Crème Fraîche
Sautéed Escarole with Red Pepper Garlic
Baked Fish/Ricotta Dumplings over French LentilsMenu 4
Menu 5
Penne with Beets, Beety Greens, Goat Cheese, and Walnuts
http://duffabcs.blogspot.com/2007/11/penne-with-beets-beet-greens-goat.html
Chestnut apple soup [MISSING RECIPE].Menu 6
Menu 7
Menu 8
Menu 9
Menu 10
WINTER:
Menu 1
http://www.culinate.com/columns/kitchen_limbo/the_flexitarian
Pan-Seared Rosemary Duck Breasts/Tofu
Teriyaki-Style Burdock, Carrots, and Leeks
Soba with Garlicky Spinach and Sesame OilMenu 2
Menu 3
Menu 4
Menu 5
Menu 6
http://jcarrot.org/a-bone-warming-winters-meal-from-my-stove-to-yours/#more-237
Creamy Root Soup with Honey-Crisped Walnuts
Sauerkraut with Smoked Whitefish or Fried Tempeh, Green Apples, and Onions
Braised duck legs [MiSSING RECIPE].Menu 7
http://www.kymmco.com/recipe.php?id=6...
Winter Tomato Soup with Goat Cheese Crostini
Spanish-style eggs with Kimchi/Chorizo over faro [MiSSING RECIPE].
Fennel with Lemon and Fennel Salt [MiSSING RECIPE].Menu 8
Menu 9
Menu 10
~TDQ
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re: The Dairy Queen
TDQ - I love you! I just did a search on the whole of the London library catalogue and not a sniff of The Flexitarian Table. So this is invaluable. Thanks again.
Also, can I just say - RHUBARB and lentil curry??!!
ETA: I just found another recipe, I think, which I'm definitely going to try as I often get beetroot in my veg box:
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Oh good! I just picked this up an I can honestly say I am really looking forward to this thread. I have been out of the loop for a while :)
We enjoy tofu but usually only as part of an oriental style meal, it will be neat to get into some of the different takes.›3 Replies-
re: ErikaK
I shouldn't be writing about this until May actually starts, but I can't help myself. I saw that somebody here wrote about being disappointed with Flex's radish dish. I made it tonight and both of us thought it was heavenly. I don't think I've EVER cooked radishes before. These were from my CSA box and so both radishes and greens were fresh and very pungent and spicy. They also were not fluffy - don't know what else to call it - like many store-bought radishes are. Sort of dry and honecombed inside. These were firm and hot...gee, sounds like porn.
Anyway, I rec. the rads!
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Hi oakjoan,
When we did Sunday Suppers for COTM, it was organized by season. I thought it worked well although the threads did get quite long. If it is split by courses, I would recommend keeping the mains together v. differentiating between veggie v. meat. This way, the comparison can be done in the same thread v. jumping from link to link.
http://www.chowhound.com/topics/397079
Also, I don't think there are desserts in the book (or I've completely blanked on them). But, it would be perfect to start the Dessert books.
Thanks for organizing this.
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re: oakjoan
That's exactly what I meant. Since the premise of the book is to feed both meat and non-meat eaters at the same meal, I think it would be helpful to have the comparison of proteins. For example, Summer menu 5, the protein is either my beloved tofu with lemon, soy, white wine and butter OR striped bass with lemon, soy, white wine and butter and the side(s) are the same. This way there can be some comparisons between the two proteins.
I think whatever category you come up will be fine. I just like having entrees together. Maybe, entrees, starches, soups & salads, and sides could be some of the category names. Berley uses a lot of weird but tasty (to me) grains, such as farro and quinoa. Are they technically pastas or rices?
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Thank you oakjoan! Although I have been reading this book I have yet to cook any of Mr. Berley's recipes. They look appetizing and healthy. I can't wait to start!
TDQ: That's quite a list you've compiled! Good job.
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re: Gio
Thanks, Gio!
Also, in the cookbook report thread, I asked beetlebug for pantry stocking tips and favorite recipes from the book. Beetlebug's reply can be found here: http://www.chowhound.com/topics/43410...
I also picked up a copy of Berley's Modern Vegetarian Kitchen at the used bookstore the other day, so, I'll have it for CSA season. May COTM with Flex Table will be a good way for me to get into his recipes in general.
~TDQ
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re: Gio
I've always made it myself for other recipes. It really isn't hard at all, and you can make it as spicy as you like (I'm always afraid that the tube stuff will be too mild for my taste, but I can't say for sure, not having tried it). If you do find it and try it, I'd love to know what you think of it.
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Some recipe links, in case anyone finds them helpful:
And, of course, beetlebug’s outstanding “Flexitarian Table- cookbook report” thread
http://www.chowhound.com/topics/434103PeterBerley.com—recipe of the month
http://peterberley.com/recipe.php
(This month it’s Giant Seitan/Lamb Turnovers).Culinate review with recipe links:
http://www.culinate.com/columns/kitchen_limbo/the_flexitarian
Pan-Seared Rosemary Duck Breasts/Tofu
Teriyaki-Style Burdock, Carrots, and Leeks
Soba with Garlicky Spinach and Sesame OilGlobal gourmet with recipe links:
http://www.globalgourmet.com/food/cookbook/2007/flexitarian/index.html
Fall Menu
Roasted Squash Potage with Spiced Crème Fraîche
Sautéed Escarole with Red Pepper Garlic
Baked Fish/Ricotta Dumplings over French LentilsThe Daily Green—various blog posts by Peter Berley—some with recipe links
http://www.thedailygreen.com/healthy-eating/blogs/flexitarian-diet/peter-berley-flexitarian-vegetarian-holiday-meal-451202
Crudites with Pumpkin Sage Pate – Vegan
Cauliflower-Leek Soup with Nut Brown Butter and Toasted Hazelnuts – Vegan/Vegetarian
Cranberry Orange Compote with Port Wine – Vegan
Maple and Spice-Brined Turkey - Omnivist
Easy Pan Gravy - Omnivist
Baked Acorn Squash with Red Quinoa and Pumpkin Seed Stuffing – Vegan
Roasted Brussels Sprouts with Chestnuts and Prunes with Crispy Heirloom Bacon Garnish – Vegan/Omnivist
Smashed Potatoes with Parnips and Turnips – Lacto-ovo Vegetarian/Vegan
Apple Cranberry Crumble – Vegan
Pumpkin Pecan Tart – Vegan
http://www.thedailygreen.com/healthy-eating/blogs/flexitarian-diet/7435
Spicy Red Pepper Soup with Goat Cheese and Chives
Leek and Potato TortaBoston Globe review with recipe link:
http://www.boston.com/ae/food/articles/2007/06/13/author_stresses_appeal_of_being_flexitarian/
Crispy pressed chicken/tofu with garlic and mintDan’s Hamptons review with recipes:
http://www.danshamptons.com/content/danspapers/issue13_2007/63.html
Cucumber Lime Raita
Lentil and Rhubarb CurryBusy Mom’s Recipes Bookstore
http://astore.amazon.com/busymomsrec0a-20/detail/0618658653
Summer
Seafood/Tofu Ceviche with Quick-Pickled Red Onion
Zucchini-Rice Soup with Basil and ParmesanThe Jew & The Carrot blog with a post by Peter Berley
http://jcarrot.org/a-bone-warming-winters-meal-from-my-stove-to-yours/#more-237
Creamy Root Soup with Honey-Crisped Walnuts
Sauerkraut with Smoked Whitefish or Fried Tempeh, Green Apples, and OnionsLee’s Summit journal interview/review—includes some strategies by Peter Berley
Grilled shrimp in harissa
http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:uoHreJyRkDgJ:www.lsjournal.com/articles/2008/04/09/dining/82.txt+%22peter+berley%22+%22flexitarian+table%22+recipe&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=41&gl=us&client=firefox-aDallas Morning News http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/fea/healthyliving/nutrition/stories/DN-nh_flexrecipes_0619liv.1.State.Edition1.1e38a00.html
SUMMER VEGETABLE SIMMER
CRISPY PRESSED CHICKEN or TOFU WITH GARLIC AND MINTSt. Petersburg Times
http://blogs.tampabay.com/food/2007/07/a-flexitaran-re.html
Portobello Mushrooms or Steak with Bread Crumb SalsaNext NC—includes some of Berley’s strategies:
http://www.nextnc.com/content/view/16074/29/
GRILLED SHRIMP IN HARISSA
FRESH CORN POLENTA WITH SAUTEED CHERRY TOMATOES
GRILLED ZUCCHINI WITH MINT OILMail Tribune review with recipe links:
http://www.mailtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070613/LIFE/706130301/0/life06
Crispy Pressed Chicken and Tofu with Garlic and Mint
Shaved Spring Vegetable and Apple Salad
Almond Shortbread Cookies
Roasted Cherries in Red Wine
Creamy Risotto-style Brown Rice with Spring Greens and AsiagoSeacoast Online
http://www.seacoastonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070627/ENTERTAIN/706270302
GRILLED ZUCCHINI WITH MINT OILSerious Eats Blog (actually, this recipe’s from Fresh Food Fast).
http://www.seriouseats.com/recipes/2008/01/dinner-tonight-carrot-mint-salad-with-currants-recipe.html
Carrot Mint Salad with CurrantsKymmco
http://www.kymmco.com/recipe.php?id=698?comments=no
Winter Tomato Soup with Goat Cheese CrostinCooking Light
http://find.myrecipes.com/recipes/recipefinder.dyn?action=displayRecipe&recipe_id=1654697
Butternut Squash Spread with PepitasBook Excerpt Houghton Mifflin
http://www.houghtonmifflinbooks.com/c...
Summer
MENU 6
Seafood/Tofu Ceviche with Quick-Pickled Red Onion
Zucchini-Rice Soup with Basil and ParmesanSummer
MENU 10
Pepper Soup with Goat Cheese
and Chives
Whole Wheat Pita Bread
Spiced Lamb Croquettes
Falafel
Two Traditional Sauces: Hot Sauce (Zhoug) and Sesame Tahini Sauce
Cucumber, Red Onion, and Tomato Salad~TDQ
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re: The Dairy Queen
Great link list!
I've tried
http://www.mailtribune.com/apps/pbcs....
Crispy Pressed Chicken and Tofu with Garlic and Mint
Creamy Risotto-style Brown Rice with Spring Greens and AsiagoThe rice is great, due to butter and gruyere that plays nicely against radish tops and other greens. I'd never had brown rice in a creamy style, interesting.
Basically, you start with cooked rice.Less thrilled with the mint marinated pressed tofu/chicken - just not my cup of tea. The weight in the pan technique is good, but not the seasoning. It had what is referred to in my household as That Vegan Taste (from prepared vegan foods sold in health food stores. They all share one specific taste -- maybe the brown rice vinegar?)
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re: LulusMom
both - flexitarianly!
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If you do try it - because really, I think it's a matter of personal likes and dislikes - let me know what you think. I'm wondering if that's just his thing, and it's not my thing. I usually love marinades...
I also wasn't too keen on a salad dressing I had from that book, but I don't recall which one it was. But that lead me to believe it was the Wrong Flavor Profile for me, so I've stayed away from the book.-
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OK, I gotcha, although I completely know what you mean by that vegan taste, and am not at all interested in replicating it. I've loved almost everything I've made from the book (if you make nothing else, do try the tofu with white wine, butter, etc.) so maybe it is just a flavor thing. I'll let you know ...
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re: greedygirl
Oh dear--I'm so sorry you're having a hard time finding the book. Now that I realize that, maybe I'll see if I can find more. Here's my favorite recipe from the book Tofu with Lemon, Soy, White Wine, and Butter Sauce: http://nowthatsgoodeatin.blogspot.com... which I did not find my search, but someone posted in beetlebug's thread. Obviously, there are recipes out there I didn't find.
~TDQ
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re: greedygirl
Like JoanN, I too love the ma po tofu from Dunlop. (Reminder: I should make that again!)
Greedygirl--I don't blame you for not being sure about this book. I've owned for several months and have had a hard time getting into it. I think that's because my style of menu planning usually goes like this. My husband goes down to the deep-freeze and picks out something to defrost that sounds good to him. A day or so later, I look in the fridge and go, Oh!, I'd better do something with those pork chops, and then I flip through the COTM until I find something that fits. With Flexitarian Table, that hardly every works. I think you need to be much more deliberate about your protein choices...
But, I've been pleased with the couple of recipes I've tried : the tofu I just mentioned and the Steak with Bread Crumb Salsa. (I also tried a quinoa salad, but made an egregious substitution because I forgot to buy something at the market...so, I don't feel I can fairly assess that one.)
You never know, you might try a couple of online recipes and decide you want to buy it through Amazon. Or, you might decide --meh--not for you. But the beauty of it is, as JoanN says, you're getting a little nudge to try someone you may otherwise not have (like me and Hopkinson) and may make a discovery. Or, you just reconfirm what you already knew.
We're going to try the Flexitarian Lentil Curry recipe one evening this week. (Yes, we have to use up all of last season's rhubarb before this season's comes up!) I'll let you know how it comes out!
In the meantime, I'll put a little more work into those links. I think I'll sit down with the book and organize the links in the same order as they appear in the book (or, at least by season) and see if I can't find some of the ones that are missing. In her thread, beetlebug paraphrases some of the recipes, too--they are easy to overlook, but it's worth a look for sure.
~TDQ
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re: The Dairy Queen
TDQ - you're so kind and helpful, thank you. I'll definitely participate in next month's COTM, but maybe not with the same enthusiasm as this mlonth!
You know what, I think I might get ahead of myself and try the Mixed Root Soup that's on one of the links. I have a ton of root veg to use up in my fridge at the moment and this looks like a good fit.
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re: greedygirl
Everyone's been so fantastically helpful in these COTM threads and I'm having so much fun and learning so much that when I see an opportunity to help back, I want to take it!
Let us know how that mixed root soup works out. I used the last of my CSA root veg this morning (I threw the ingredients for a beef barley stew into the crockpot before I left the house), so I won't get a chance to try it until fall at least!
~TDQ
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re: karykat
Oh, you definitely do! I think the key is to not think of it as a meat substitute, but as a entirely different food stuff altogether. The texture can vary, but in both the ma po tofu dish (from Dunlop) and this dish in Flex Table, the texture is pretty soft. Like the texture of an egg white of a hard boiled egg.
~TDQ
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re: MMRuth
Our individuals tastes are what makes us (and chowhound) interesting! But, thinking of it like a soft but firm cheese is probably more accurate anyway as I understand that tofu is made more or less the same way as mozzarella...
karykat and MMRuth--I'm not sure what makes tofu unappealing for you (taste or texture?) but if it's taste, what I like about the tofu with lemon & ginger recipe in Flex Table is that he actually succeeds in searing some taste into the tofu. Most other recipes I find it's just some inoffensively tasteless tofu sitting in some sauce that (hopefully) tastes good (which is how I describe the ma po tofu--in that dish, each morsel of tofu is a little gift of non-spicyness to give a respite from the rest of the dish). But, in this case, the tofu actually takes on flavor. If it's texture you don't like--I've tried this tofu dish twice--once with supersoft silken tofu (because I had some leftover) and once with regular tofu, which is what the recipe called for. I loved it both ways, but I found it really decadent with the silken tofu--it was almost like a savory custard. Now, it didn't look so great because it was so delicate it was hard to serve it without it falling apart, but I really liked it.
If your objection to tofu is texture, I understand there are a few ways to change the texture (such as by freezing it), but I don't know if Berley tries any of those in this particular book. Maybe if you told us what you didn't like about tofu some of the folks who have cooked with the book more could direct you to some of the recipes that steer towards the ones they think you might like?
Also, he does use other kinds of protein substitutes in the book--seitan, lentils, tempeh etc. I've never cooked with seitan or tempeh, but I picked some up at the co-op yesterday. We'll see how it goes!
~TDQ
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Okay--I'll have a peek at my book in the next day or two to see which tofu ones he has you fry the tofu first and try to flag those for you. In the one above (that I keep calling tofu with lemon and ginger but is actually called Tofu with Lemon, Soy, White Wine and Butter Sauce), he doesn't really have you fry it--there's minimal oil involved...so, if it's a texture thing, you may not love it. The best way to affect the texture in this particular recipe, I guess, is to choose either a more firm tofu or a softer tofu. I preferred it with the softer tofu. Also, sliced more thinly than the recipe called for.
~TDQ
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For me it's been both taste and texture. But mostly taste or lack thereof. I sort of feel like if it doesn't have any taste, why eat it, unless you aren't getting other proteins and need to for nutritional reasons?
But I think it's been so long since I've tried it (years) and my tastes may have changed. And undoubtedly there are better things to do with it.
So I think I do need to give it another try. And this Flexitarian book may be a good springboard for doing that.
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Okay, for MMRuth and karykat and others who might be curious about the tofu dishes in the book, below is a summary of the preparations of the various tofu dishes in the book. What I will say is that there is a pretty wide-variety of types of tofu used (soft, firm, extra firm, smoked) and preparations here. Also, remember, that whenever a tofu recipe is included in a menu, it's are offered alongside an alternative "meat" recipe, so if the tofu didn't appeal to you, you could opt for the meat dish instead (which, of course, is the whole premise of the book!).
karykat, I do believe that this book will give you a pretty good re-introduction to tofu in that there's a pretty wide variety, but, since you're not sure you'll be a fan, you might first scan beetlebug's thread to see which ones people tried and liked (I know there was one people didn't like much) and start with those.
MMRuth, hopefully, some of these textures will appeal to you and, if not, there's always the meat dish!
SPRING
Menu 3: Tofu with garlic and mint (37)--marinated, weighted (for crispiness) & cooked in a cast iron skilletMenu 8: Smoked tofu salad (pg 77)—cut into matchsticks & tossed with salad ingredients and vinaigrette
Menu 9: Asian noodles in broth with Vegetables & Tofu (p 83)—soft tofu cubed and simmered in a saucepan of broth
SUMMER
Menu 5: Tofu with lemon, soy, white wine & butter sauce (pg 123)—firm tofu sliced into slabs, brought to a boil in an ovenproof skillet with lemon, soy, white wine, butter, ginger etc. then baked, then simmeredMenu 6: Tofu ceviche with quick pickled red onion (pg 130)—firm tofu, rinsed, pressed dry, cubed, marinated with lime juice, soy sauce etc. , then added to the ceviche and served on a bed of lettuce
FALL
Menu 2: Smoked tofu and mole verde (pg 178)—smoked tofu chopped, and added to a warm skilled filled with onions, carrots, beans, spices, cooking liquid etc, then used as a filling to fold into tortillas, and bakedMenu 4: Lemon thyme tofu (p 195)—extra firm tofu cut weighted & drained (for crispiness), then cut into triangles, coated with seasonings, then roasted
Menu 7: autumn stew with miso and tofu (pg 217)---extra firm tofu cut into slabs, dredged in cornstarch, deep fried, and served atop the stew
WINTER
Menu 1: Pan-seared rosemary tofu (pg 253)—extra firm tofu pressed, cut into slabs, rubbed with seasonings, refrigerated for 4 hours, fried until it forms a golden brown crust, garnished and served with pan juicesMenu 4: Batter-fried tofu with kimchi (pg 276)— extra firm tofu cut into slabs, pressed, dipped into batter, deep-fried until golden, served over hot kimchi
Menu 5: phyllo pie with lemon tofu, winter greens, and mushrooms (pg 283)—extra firm tofu mashed with lemon zest & juice, olive oil, dill, garlic then layered over phyllo, and a vegetable mixture, topped with more phyllo, and baked.
~TDQ
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You have convinced me, I am definitely not going to buy the book or even see if my public library has it. In the 80's I had a dip recipe using silken tofu. In th4e 80's in a college town it was very acceptable along with the carob everyone was trying to convince themselves was better for them than chocolate. Except in the afore mentioned dishes, Ma Po and Hot and Sour soup, it is just not happening here.
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I'm glad the info helped you make your decision, Candy.
The premise of the book is (theoretically) that every menu is designed to have 2 main dishes: one that would appeal to vegetarians and second one that that appeals to omnivores. You could work your way through every menu in the book and choose the "meat" entree from every menu not eat a morsel of tofu if you wanted. (Also, many of the "vegetarian" main dishes are made with eggs, portobello mushrooms, white beans, etc. No "faux" proteins all at. There are also a couple, however, that call for seitan or tempeh.) I tried the Steak with Bread Crumb Salsa recipe and very much enjoyed it.
FYI--I'm not trying to convince anybody of anything--just trying to give people the info they need so they, like you, can make whatever decision is best for them regarding participating in the book. Greedygirl mentioned, for instance, the book is not widely available where she is and was unsure if she wanted to buy it.
Personally, I don't eat tofu because I think it's better for me as much as I eat it because I do actually enjoy some (not all) of the preparations of it, including traditional recipes like Ma Po Tofu and some newer recipes, like the one tofu recipe I've tried from Flex Table thus far: Tofu with Lemon, Soy, White Wine, and Butter Sauce.
Regarding the latter recipe: I've made it twice--the first time, while my husband (who is not the world's biggest tofu fan) was at a dinner meeting. I had some tofu leftover from something else I had cooked and figured it was a good time to try the Berley recipe since I figured I didn't have enough tofu left for two full servings; maybe for a serving and a half. I figured I'd cook my dinner and leave a little bit for my husband to taste when he got home. I loved it so much I ate all of it, including what I'd reserved for him.
I, like you, do not like carob. Thankfully, there are no carob recipes in this book!
Anyway, I'm glad you've made the decision that's right for you! Hopefully, the dessert cookbook of the month chosen will suit you better and we'll still all cook together from that one!
~TDQ
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The thing is that the Flexitarian nay-sayers can still make a few of the recipes because of all the hard work you've done finding recipes on the internet. I would get it out of the library, but it's just not available here. And thanks to you, I've definitely decided not to buy it. I'm nominating TDQ for COTM (Chowhound of the Month)!
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I gave Flexitarian a thorough perusal at the bookstore last weekend and decided not to buy it. I'm not a big tofu fan either. Also had a chance to page through the book I voted for(My Bombay Kitchen) and while I thought it was a good cookbook, I decided to pass on that one as well(mainly because I already have several Indian cookbooks that have some Parsi recipes.) I did manage to fill a gap in my cookbook collection with Jean Anderson's Love Affair with Southern Cooking which I hadn't been able to examine until last weekend. Looks like the real deal.
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One thing that I have found is that, even w/ a COTM book that I end up not liking generally - like Vegetable Harvest - I end up with a couple of recipes that I love and use regularly. Also, the links that people post to online recipes are helpful in either letting me gauge my interest, or allowing me to do a "test drive" without buying the book. That said, there are lots of COTMs in which I have not participated.
Re: tofu - I think there is a difference between using tofu as a substitute for something else, and cooking it in its own right. I was pleasantly surprised by the tofu dishes I enjoyed from Dunlop's book. I just ordered Flexitarian on somewhat of a whim, so, we'll see how that goes.
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OMG! Where do you keep them all? I fear I've turned into the Imelda Marcos of cookbooks. I'm having a terrible time controlling myself about cookbooks lately. I will stop short of calling it a cookbook obsession, but, I've purchased three cookbooks this week--all used or remaindered, thankfully-- and I bought 8 cookbooks the week before--again, all used or remaindered. (I think I spent $60 total...) I pass this half-price bookstore on my commute that I just can't help stopping at... It's kind of scary and embarrassing.
I've just been seized by this idea that my cookbook collection is missing certain "essential" cookbooks that I need to have.
~TDQ
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Oh yes, me too: on and under the nightstand, and under the bed. Also, I find them under the sofa all the time, too, because I like to do my meal planning while watching TV. Oh, next to the exercise bike. Sometimes I find them in the kitchen! ;-). And often, next to the computer, because I'm posting something about them on Chowhound. I really have two groups of cookbooks, though: ones I cook from (or want to cook from) and ones I'm emotionally attached to (gifts or inherited from someone or I picked up traveling) that I'll likely never cook from.
~TDQ
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I have about 350-400 myself. Almost every room in my house has cookbooks or food related books in them. My collecting obsession is almost as bad as my table top obsession. I've begun on a third set of sterling. I can't begin to tell you how many wine glasses I own, I haven't counted and the shop next to the one I manage has some stunning red Murano glass goblets. I force my self not to look at them when I need to go in there. I may break down though.
I did get an early copy of the Duguid and Alford new book, Beyond the Great Wall. I am making an Inner Mongolian dish tonight. They think it might be a Russian fusion dish. It is a crisp romaine salad topped with a warm beef dressing. The photo in the book makes it look amazing. It is quite simple as most of the recipes in the book are. I think I am also addicted to their books.
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I peeked at a couple of the Duguid and Alford books in the library because they've been spoken of so highly on this board, and their new book sounds intriguing, too. I really want them, but they are so expensive/large/unwieldy that I'm too nervous to have them in the kitchen because they seem like they will be hard to work with. They seem more like travel/photo journal books than cookbooks (the authors will be speaking about the new book in Minneapolis next month, too.)
My kitchen isn't as small as MMRuth's, but I still have a limited amount of counter space.
How do you get around the size of those books?
P.S. Candy, please don't suggest another kind of collecting obsession--I'm so highly suggestible, now I might have to start collect sterling and wine glasses! ;-) Seriously, that's pretty amazing.
~TDQ
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re: greedygirl
GG, do do a purge occasionally to make room for new books but have some that I will never part with.
As I stated earlier yesterday, if anyone wants my copy of Desert Circus, it is your's for the shipping cost. It is defnitely one I am not going to use. If no one wants it it goes to the Good Will.
MM the salad was amazing, It will go into my regular repetoire. Right now I m going back to bed! I am misspelling things and should be asleep!
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Here's a link to the run-off voting thread, for everyone's reference. http://www.chowhound.com/topics/508848











