Seriously, if the Pope were your invited guest.
The Pope is in town here in New York. If the Pope were your invited guest, what would you serve him for lunch or dinner in your home? I don't foresee the popemobile stopping by anytime soon, but I am curious to learn from CH'ers what *they* think the Pope would enjoy as his specially prepared meal.
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Depends on if it's a Friday. I'm going to assume no, since fish isn't my thing. I wouldn't intentionally invite him over on a Friday. I like that this thread got resurrected (ha!) with the arrival of a new pope (who seems way cooler than last pope-guy).
Roasted Pork Tenderloin
Baked Apples
Wild Rice cooked in consummee
A decent baguette with real butter
Maybe a green salad.That's my go-to company dinner - fancy enough without being frou-frou. You'll fill up, but not feel sick. I won't be chained to the kitchen all night, leaving me free to chat.
Would also invite my cousin, formerly a nun, now married to a lovely lady. She's the most Catholic person I know, even still.
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re: NonnieMuss
Indeed. I'd have to invite at least one gay or lesbian friend. I'm sure he'd actually like my gay friend who is from a small village in Québec, or my lesbian Argentine friend. Doubt it would change Church doctrine, but might make him think.
He's not young, so good food but nothing too hard to digest. I'd make him bison empanadas (which I've made several times for parties). Lean bison is not very different from pampas grass-friend beef (as friends from down there say. Then a roast chicken with roasted vegetables and a more-than-decent Montréal baguette.
Local berries if in season, in a salad with a wee bit of brandy.
Obviously, I'd have to chat about Umbria (Saint Francis country) and Rome (duh) where I studied.
Of course Messi remains the most famous (now alive and active) Argentinian, above either Pope Francisco or Queen Maxima of the Netherlands. I have a soft spot for Messi as I don't think he is much taller than I am, rare among top-ranked pro athletes.
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It depends on what he would be visiting for. We asked an archbishop coming for confirmation about his food preferences. He was so tired of the typical church banquet fare. He asked for southern fried chicken. When our superior general came, he asked for a buffet with sandwich fixings. He delighted in cold cuts, ham, egg, and chicken salad, potato chips and all the rest. If the Pope were my invited guest, I would try to find out if there were something he really didn't like. Then, I'd probably cook him something home-style from whatever is in season. Don't forget, as archbishop in Argentina, he used to cook for himself.
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Pope Francis' humble lifestyle extends to kitchen--
"ROME – Baked skinless chicken, salad, fruit and a glass of simple wine is certainly not food fit for a king. But it is a meal fit for a pope."
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re: Kholvaitar
That is very interesting. His simple meal is appealing, "filling up on bread", less so. I love bread, a mainstay of Mediterranean eating - and hey, that includes Jesus! - but too much bread could cause diabetes and other health problems, in a culture where we walk less and do far less hard physical work than Jesus and his friends.
I'm glad he allows a bit of wine. It is just so normal in Italy and the Italian diaspora, including Argentina.
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Don't forget the Pope has lived in Italy a very long time. One of my colleagues, who works in the Vatican Secretariate of State, told me that Cardinal Ratzinger used to go often to a trattoria in the neighborhood. The locals knew who he was, but never bothered him. So probably any classic in the cucina Romana would please him. But what you can't get in Rome is a good German volkornbrot. So I'd rather have him over for breakfast with volkornbrot, schenken, kaese and a soft boiled egg.
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From what I understand (I think the press has been interested in this since the Pope declined President Bush's dinner invitation), the Pope rarely eats in public and prefers to dine alone. That makes it difficult to have any idea what type of food he enjoys. I'd probably go with a relatively safe offering such as roast chicken, supplemented with a veggie dish that could serve as the entree if it turns out he doesn't like chicken.
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My initial post was just to make a little joke about the meals a lot of people used to eat on Fridays. In reality, I am not such a cook that I would plan a meal for the Pope. But I have some questions. When a European Monarch comes visiting, why do we feel we have to serve European food? Are we Americans still feeling that we have nothing to offer? Why Lidia? Why not an American chef highlighting American food? Why not Maine lobster, Maryland crabcakes, Gulf shrimp, Angus beef, Copper River salmon, American artisanal cheeses and bread, California wine. The man is German. Why not some of the new American beers? How about beer can chicken or deep fried turkey and buttermilk biscuits?
Come to think about it, why not serve a traditional American Thanksgiving dinner with all the trimmings. There. I did just propose a meal plan.
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re: yayadave
Your joke is fine. I'm not (US) American, nor am I European-born, so I pass on that dispute.
Lidia B is most definitely an American; think she has spent a large majority of her life in the US. She is serving local US produce - why not a little Central European cultural comfort? You'll find that in lots of places in the Americas, from Canada to Argentina. I have a friend who is giving a lecture at a university in Southern Brazil in a state we've discovered to be full of Bavarian-style brewhouses and ratskellers...
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Given the calendar jfood would have given the Pope a traditional Sedar:
Gefilte fish
Hard boiled egg
Brisket
potato and matzah kugels
latkes
apple sauce
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re: Catskillgirl
Well, actually that is a typical North American seder of Eastern European origin. I know German and Austrian Jews, and except for central symbolic or mandatory foods such as matza, their meal is rather different. See Claudia Roden's masterwork for more details, as well as the book (In, From?) Oma's Kitchen.
The Last Supper was a Seder, after all...
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re: plf515
He is a close friend of the leading Rabbi of Buenos Aires.
In Argentina Ashkenazi Jews are probably more numerous than Sephardim, but there is also an important Sephardic community. And the great Argentine poet Juan Gelman (of Ashkenazi origin) wrote beautiful lyrics in Ladino - close to Medieval Spanish, after all.
I think the conversation - including thoughtful silence - would be the most important part.
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It's only fair. If it were lunch, a cold fried egg sandwich. If it were dinner, Mrs.Pauls fish stix, Kraft mac & cheese, and frozen broccoli. It's only fair.
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re: yayadave
According to his own specifications, Pope Benedict likes to eat simple, seasonal, not too elaborate a meal. So Dave you might not be too far off the mark, much as I hate to admit it. OTOH Lidia Bastianich planned the following menu for him:
The Pope's Menu
On Friday, the pope's dinner at Archbishop Migliore's Manhattan residence began with a simple salad of steamed spring vegetables tossed with an almond vinaigrette: fava beans, string beans, asparagus, and toasted almonds topped with a dollop of warm ricotta drizzled with extra virgin olive oil. Next, the pope and his 52 other guests dined upon Cacio Pepe e Pere, which is ravioli filled with pecorino cheese, and fresh pears served in a cheese and crushed black pepper sauce."The menu also included a risotto, which Bastianich described as "simple and straightforward." It was served with nettles, favas, fresh peas, legumes, and wild onions, with grana padano cheese and extra virgin olive oil. Bastianich decided upon a whole grilled striped bass as the main course. "He loved the idea of fish," Bastianich said. She filleted the bass, seasoning it with coarse sea salt and extra virgin olive oil. The fish was served alongside boiled fingerling potatoes, and a chicory and endive salad with a little mustard vinaigrette. "
http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/s...If I were planning dinner for the Pope I'd probably serve:
Antipasto w/several cheeses, meats, fish, roasted vegetables
Olive and Fennel Crostini
Primi
Pasta 'ncasciata
Secondi
Lamb Shanks on Polenta with a Parmesan Crust
Contorno
Braised "Bright Lights" Swiss Chard
Insalata
Mixed baby greens, Balsamic dressing
Dolce
Amaretto Semifreddo with Chocolate Sauce-
re: Gio
The current pope isn't Eastern European (that was the last pope, JP2, a Pole): he is Bavarian. I like Bastianich's menu - I'd like it myself.
Also remember that His Holiness is 81 years old, so overly heavy food would probably not be a good idea.
Typically Germans go mad for Spargel (asparagus - in Germany it is the white kind but Benedict would also know the green kind from living in Italy), so that is a nice touch.
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re: yayadave
yayadave, you're on my wavelength except I'd serve him what I eat for my own meals when I decide to get a little fancier than my usual brown rice and veggies - a Wildwood brand original veggie burger, with options for soy cheese and or soy bacon. And of course, pickles and potato salad and an avocado salad with my homemade maple mustard vinaigrette on the side. Condiments would include Vegenaise, Eden organic mustard, and Trader Joe's brand organic Ketchup. To drink: soymilk, or organic coffee or tea, or whatever beer was in house, probably Wolaver Brown, or Sam Smith, or a nice Belgian Abbey beer if he was lucky.
Now this is not haute cuisine, but with the church's vow of poverty and all I think it might be insulting to offer a pope haute cuisine. Maybe he'd actually rather have the brown rice and veggies, come to think of it.
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OK- I will bite. I would focus on fresh and local. I would try to include all the major food groups: steamed, sauted, fried, and braised. I think he is Eastern Euro so the braise would be a paprika goulasch sort of thing, the steamed would be a potato or other dumpling, the fried would be onion rings ( just because). Ooops as a saute thin sliced beef with onions and mushrooms in plenty of butter with noodles or bread to sop up the juice.

















