510546 Fri Apr 18 03:15:41 -0700 2008 16 34 Wine 0 3606331 I am looking for very good Cabs that are ready to drink now for under $30. I was also wondering how one good get a moderate priced Cab with a vintage less than 2000. Fri Apr 18 03:15:41 -0700 2008 48383 pof 1 3606748 My favorite Napa Cabs in that price range are Worthy Sophia's Cuvee and Buehler. Others to look for are Bennett Lane Maximus, Franciscan Oakville Estate, and Hess Collection. Fri Apr 18 07:19:29 -0700 2008 3606331 11814 dinwiddie 1 3606756 I do not know about the "earlier than 2000 vintage for under $30" stipulation, but I would say that Bill Hunt has rightfully been making a case for "the Edge" by Signerello, which I believe retails for around $19 in the US. I tried the 2005 vintage a few weeks ago and think I might buy some more this weekend. For a blend containing some cab sauv, Orin Swift "the Prisoner" is always a good bet. Have not yet tried 2006 but 2005 was mighty tasty. Fri Apr 18 07:21:08 -0700 2008 3606331 99971 anewton 1 3606798 Why does it have to be Napa Valley? Why does it have to be prior to (older than) the 2000 vintage? Fri Apr 18 07:32:05 -0700 2008 3606331 28122 zin1953 1 3607122 2000 vintage was horrible....2001 was great...2002 was good Fri Apr 18 09:08:37 -0700 2008 3606331 168280 vino5150 2 3607605 Agreed, but I took the OP's comment ("a vintage less than 2000") to mean he was looking for wines produced PRIOR to 2000 . . . but it is an awkward way of phrasing it; perhaps you are correct. Cheers Jason Fri Apr 18 11:18:17 -0700 2008 3607122 28122 zin1953 1 3608027 *****Montoya $15 *****Sterling $18 (oddly I like regular Sterling better $12) ***Franciscan $20 Havent tried the Charles Krug $20 but there are great reatings and a few of my frieds said it was outstanding. Fri Apr 18 12:59:19 -0700 2008 3606331 184765 ofranak2 1 3608685 Thanks so far to all who have responded. I just like the Napa Cabs. My friend shared a Sterling 1999. While I have more expensive wines in my cellar I thought it was great and wondered where I could buy older vintages of moderately priced wines. Fri Apr 18 16:20:30 -0700 2008 3606331 48383 pof 2 3608742 I tried a Honig cab last week. About $38 and really quite a bargain. It was very nice for the price. http://www.honigwine.com/home Fri Apr 18 16:45:23 -0700 2008 3608685 155549 Docsknotinn 2 3610310 >>> I just like the Napa Cabs. <<< OK, works for me! The reason I was asking is that Napa "anything" tends to be more money than wines of comparable quality when grown elsewhere. So "Cabernets under $30" is a very different question than "NAPA Cabernets under $30." And prior to 2000 is even harder . . . most wineries have their 2005s and some even have their 2006s out on the market already. So, if you don't mind, I think I'll ignore the vintage . . . I honestly cannot think of any vintages prior to 2000 that are a) still available, and b) under $30. The following Napa Cabernets are all available under $30, and are listed alphabetically. Beaulieu Vineyards - "Rutherford" Buehler Charles Krug Clos du Val Conn Creek Flora Springs Folie a Deux Franciscan Heitz Cellars Hess Estate St. Clement White Oak William Hil Cheers, Jasonl Sat Apr 19 12:03:40 -0700 2008 3608685 28122 zin1953 3 3672363 At a recent tasting of the Yountville (Napa Valley) appellation, I tasted the 2005 Yountville Cabernet Sauvignon from Charles Krug. I was impressed by this wine at this price point -- about $24 -- it was lovely, especially when you consider the stunning Cabernets in the room. I don't recommend Charles Krug's other wines -- the winery has lost its way for years but a new winemaker is in place now -- so please look for the Yountville designation on the label, as well as the 2005 vintage. Fri May 09 11:53:06 -0700 2008 3610310 18222 maria lorraine 1 3610486 for pre-2000 vintages, try Hart Davis Hart, a wine merchant in Chicago that does a lot of consignment sales. They have an awful lot of older Napa cabernet in stock, at many price points. Use the Advanced Search feature to specify vintage and keyword. They can probably ship to where you live Sat Apr 19 13:49:21 -0700 2008 3606331 51367 Yaqo Homo 2 3610687 True . . . but will they be UNDER $30??? Sat Apr 19 15:32:13 -0700 2008 3610486 28122 zin1953 3 3610898 I think pof was asking 2 discrete questions. 1) what's a good Napa cab under $30. 2) where do I find older Napa cab that's "moderately priced" (broadly defined) In any case, a small number of HDH's selections that fit the criteria *are* under $30. I don't know if they're any good though: http://www.hdhwine.com/content.cfm?ContentAlias=productdetail&lotnumber=39526 http://www.hdhwine.com/content.cfm?ContentAlias=productdetail&lotnumber=42702 Sat Apr 19 17:23:14 -0700 2008 3610687 51367 Yaqo Homo 1 3613994 Folie A Deux Napa Cellars Mon Apr 21 05:36:05 -0700 2008 3606331 124708 mac8111 1 3671426 One of my very fav cabs is called Jocelyn. Their 2002 vintage was gorgeous. Super chocolate heaven. I found it by accident when hunting around the 20/20 wine shop in LA looking for 350's (I'm single). It's probably about $35 though. HIGHLY recommended...really, I think it tastes as good as a Dalla Valle. Fri May 09 08:01:30 -0700 2008 3606331 190672 FoodKitCat 1 3673567 I would be on the lookout for Sequoia Grove -- sometimes under $30. Fri May 09 18:21:40 -0700 2008 3606331 50041 whiner