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madequity Apr 15, 2008 06:16 PM

I am a self proclaimed burger fanatic. Will be in Phoenix this weekend which is one of the few major cities where I have yet to find a solid burger (think 5 Guys in the East for what I consider a solid burger). All input accepted and appreciated!

  1. Seth Chadwick Apr 15, 2008 06:19 PM

    You will get plenty of responses, but I am a big fan of the burgers at Delux at 32nd Street and Camelback in Phoenix. Prime meat, excellent toppings and great bread. They tend to undercook them, so take that into consideration and don't be afraid to send it back if it isn't cooked properly.

    Combine that with a basket of their mixed fries and a beer and you have a great dining experience.

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    Delux
    3146 E Camelback Rd, Phoenix, AZ 85016

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    1. re: Seth Chadwick
      aztami Apr 15, 2008 07:34 PM

      I second that Seth, Delux is outstanding. Grainbelt Grillhouse in Gilbert has an awesome burger also.

      You need to try GBG, Seth. Great food, atmosphere, and reasonably priced. For the money, the best steaks I've had.

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      Grainbelt Grillhouse
      302 N Gilbert Rd, Gilbert, AZ 85234

      1. re: Seth Chadwick
        Firenza00 Apr 15, 2008 07:38 PM

        Yup, Delux has some good burgers. On our last visit, they were really good and the fries were crisper than normal. Their sweet potato fries are sometimes a bit limpish, but they were actually somewhat crispy.

        Another place that has some good burgers, but I'm not sure of their current state of openness, is Welcome Diner. It's pretty much a lunch-only for burgers, but they are pretty good. Personally I'm a fan of their deep-fried then grilled hotdogs, but my g/f loves their burgers. Their fries, while basic russets, are amazing when they are done right. They are cash only and cramped, but very good.

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        Welcome Diner
        924 E Roosevelt St, Phoenix, AZ 85006

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          Lala0310 Apr 16, 2008 05:58 AM

          Delux for us too. Like Seth said, the toppings are excellent as is the bread. The basket of mixed fries never stands a chance with us! Firenza I agree with you, last time our fries were nice and crispy and HOT! Oh they were so good. I usually get Kronenberg beer when there but this last time we both got the root beer on tap (thomas kemper?) that was excellent as well.

          Make sure to head over to the Gelato place across the parking lot from Delux for dessert! YUM!

          1. re: Lala0310
            azbirdiemaker Apr 16, 2008 12:57 PM

            Just to pile on ...

            Delux burger is my vote as well. However, I say stick around for dessert at Delux. Their apple pie is out of this world and DEFINITELY enough to share for at least 2-4 ppl. The crust is beautiful - nice and flaky with great flavor. The pie filling is fantastic. Get it a la mode and you'll be in heaven.

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            jhenner May 6, 2008 02:29 PM

            I'm not getting the Delux-loving. When I ate there a few weeks ago, my burger was soggy, mushy, and a bit taste-less.

            May have been an off day for the cook. I'll have to try it again. Maybe then I'll understand what everyone is raving about.

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              winedubar May 6, 2008 02:35 PM

              don't feel badly, jhenner. my last 2 experiences at delux weren't good at all. had they been my first trips i wouldn't ever have gone back.

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                tara17 May 6, 2008 02:56 PM

                We ate there just this past weekend. We both had the Delux Burger. I wish mine had had more Maytag flavor - all I really got was the sweetness from the caramelized onions. I made a comment to Firenza that the burgers aren't as good in real life as they are in my head. I still remember the first time we went there. *Insert drooling*

                That said, we RAVED about the fries all weekend. The sweet potato fries were absolutely perfect. Nice and crispy, sweet, and with just the right amount of salt. The plain fries were good, too. Great, even, but they paled in comparison to the perfect sweet potato fries.

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                  winedubar May 6, 2008 03:04 PM

                  do you think that's what it is? the internal 'omg this uber burger - must have' dialog renders the actual thing as not as good as?

                  i just remember thinking that it wasn't as good as in the good old days. maybe the good old days are in my head ;)

                  i will say that i wish they would undo what they did to the beet salad. thats a crime against vegetables

                  1. re: winedubar
                    tara17 May 6, 2008 03:21 PM

                    Possibly. When they first opened, though, they were also using Nieman (sp) Ranch beef and now they're using something else (Harris Ranch? I can't seem to remember). I also wonder if that has something to do with it.

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                      hohokam May 6, 2008 03:41 PM

                      Harris Ranch is what they have claimed to serve all 3 times I've been there, but I started eating there pretty late in the game (~1 year ago).

                      The more I think about my last trip past the Harris Ranch feedlot on I-5, though, the less inclined I am to eat at Delux. I would more motivated to eat there if they switched (back?) to a supplier like Niman Ranch.

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                        azhotdish May 6, 2008 03:53 PM

                        I do not believe they ever used Niman Ranch beef. I thought they used to do a NR hot dog, but their website says it's Hebrew National.

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                          Firenza00 May 6, 2008 04:04 PM

                          Niman Ranch is the original supplier. Their original menus touted that. At some point, they stopped using Niman and didn't change their menus. This prompted Niman to ask them to fix the menus. They did. Their burgers suffered during this period. They switched to Harris Ranch after that, and the quality improved immensely. However, I still prefer the Niman Ranch-era burgers. They are still really good today, but they were even better then.
                          The original New Times Review mentions Niman:

                          http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/2004-1...

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                            azhotdish May 6, 2008 05:04 PM

                            Thank you, I stand corrected.

                        2. re: tara17
                          Bill Hunt May 9, 2008 07:31 PM

                          As an aside: we use a personal meat service that had the Neiman beef for some time. Lately, they have put in Harris Ranch, and I am not a fan. Even their "American Kobe" is not that good, in my book. Amazing how much a beef supplier can influence the final product.

                          I'm back to getting a prime sirloin double-ground at AJ's, when I do my burgers. It's about half the price of the Harris Ranch American Kobe and 4x better.

                          Have not been to Deluxe, so cannot comment on it.

                          Hunt

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                        nyomi May 7, 2008 11:04 AM

                        Tara, I went there last night and had the exact experience as you. The fries were definitely better than I remembered... The flavor along with the yellow-colored dip... maybe a sweet mustard aioli?... was wonderful!

                        My boyfriend and I each had a half of their Delux and Standard burgers. While each wasn't a disappointment, neither were they as delicious as my memories.

                        That being said, the highlight of our meals was the beer...

                  2. re: Seth Chadwick
                    johnseberg Apr 15, 2008 08:08 PM

                    I'm on another streak of having a Delux Burger about once a week. But, I have to disagree with Seth. I think they've been overcooking my desired medium-rare burgers, of late. I've been considering switching to rare to adjust.

                    1. re: johnseberg
                      Seth Chadwick Apr 15, 2008 08:45 PM

                      Thanks for that, John. Maybe they got too many complaints and overcompensated. :o)

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                        johnseberg Apr 15, 2008 08:49 PM

                        Or, maybe I just like my beef bloody as hell.

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                        azhotdish Apr 15, 2008 09:27 PM

                        You must like it bloody, because I've always order med-rare and they've always gotten it right for me. I do them for take-out lunch about once a month, and it's still my favorite burger in town. Juicy, beefy, yum.

                        A couple other favs of mine in town are the Southwest Burger @ Four Peaks (Tempe) and the Western burger @ Chicago Hamburger Company. Two completely different burgers but both really good.

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                        Four Peaks Brewing Co
                        1340 E 8th St, Tempe, AZ 85281

                        Chicago Hamburger Co
                        3749 E Indian School Rd, Phoenix, AZ 85018

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                          aztami Apr 15, 2008 09:40 PM

                          I always order mid-rare, as well. They are always spot on.

                    2. lawyerbriefs Apr 15, 2008 09:36 PM

                      I'm from Tucson and my Phoenix burger knowledge is limited; that said, burgers at Delux are vyer, very good!!!

                      1. ipsedixit Apr 15, 2008 09:50 PM

                        I'll just pile on here ... Delux all the way.

                        Nothing is better in Phoenix, and maybe nothing is better in the Southwest.

                        1. Jen76 Apr 15, 2008 10:09 PM

                          Never been to a 5 Guys, so no idea what their burgers are like. Haven't been to Delux either. I like Chuckbox in Tempe. Awesome burgers. Don't go too close to closing time as they've been known to run out and close early.

                          http://www.thechuckbox.com/

                          There's also Heart Attack Grill - home of the double bypass burger. Never been there either, but my husband has. It's more of a "guy" place.

                          http://www.heartattackgrill.com/

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                          Chuck Box
                          202 E University Dr, Tempe, AZ 85281

                          Heart Attack Grill
                          6185 W Chandler Blvd, Chandler, AZ 85226

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                          1. re: Jen76
                            Firenza00 Apr 15, 2008 10:27 PM

                            I'd have to disagree on Heart Attack Grill. I haven't been to any of their current locations, but the one time I went to the original locale, both the burgers and "nurses" were nothing special. For burgers, go to Delux. For girls, well, there's lots of gentlemanly places for that.

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                              azhotdish Apr 15, 2008 10:58 PM

                              Absolutely do not go to Heart Attack Grill - they stopped cooking their burgers to-order long ago, and only serve it at one temp. It's a gut bomb and tasted like charred grease - avoid.

                              1. re: Jen76
                                JK Grence the Cosmic Jester Apr 16, 2008 12:36 AM

                                the Heart Attack *used* to be good back when they first opened. Then, a couple months later, quality went screaming downhill and never recovered.

                                Wait a sec... Chandler Blvd now? They moved AGAIN?!

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                                  oryza May 8, 2008 02:43 PM

                                  Heart attack on 44th & Thomas closed last month, and the name has changed to something else, but the mannekins with their nurse uniforms are still in the window... who knows what that's about

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                                    azhotdish May 8, 2008 03:04 PM

                                    It's called The Grill Next Door. Take a look at the pic of "Sassy Sami", that should pretty much sum it up.

                                    http://www.thegrillnextdooraz.com/

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                                      oryza May 8, 2008 03:28 PM

                                      omg... i haven't seen Heinz so abused since... well, the last presidential election

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                                    ziggylu May 8, 2008 03:21 PM

                                    They recently opened at Kyrene and Chandler Blvd. In the plaza where the bowling alley is.

                                    What is with this place and it's many incarnations? I've never set foot in one nor have had any desire to but the constant new locations is intriguing. Wonder what the backstory is. And how long this newest new location will be open.

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                                    aaronling May 7, 2008 08:43 AM

                                    One thing to know about Chuck Box is that they only take cash.

                                    Heart Attack Grill kind of tries to be a Hooters for burger places, they have girls dressed up as sexy nurses. The theme is interesting but the food is not too great.

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                                    boingo2000 Apr 16, 2008 08:40 AM

                                    Well, obviously Delux is the consensus pick around these parts...and it is very good, though when I think "burger", I tend to think more traditional (ie. nice squishy white bun and less people-trying-to-impress sitting around me). :-)

                                    Somebody mentioned Four Peaks, and they do make a good burger. My favorite burger in town is probably Uncle Bear's, a sports bar in Gilbert. Oh, and you can't go wrong with the burgers at Roaring Fork (the Big-A** Burger) or Pischke's Blue Ribbon (which is essentially the same thing...I think they were calling it the 'BA' burger since they can't use the "Big-A**" name).

                                    Anybody remember Flakey Jakes? Sigh....now *that* was my favorite burger of all time. I still get misty thinking about that place.

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                                      AzDumpling Apr 16, 2008 08:56 AM

                                      The bar at RF and the BA Burger with some green chili mac and a couple of HH Marg. is a fine thing.

                                    2. winedubar Apr 16, 2008 08:41 AM

                                      i agree with delux and welcome diner, and would raise you a la grande orange. thats a tasty burger ;)

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                                        azhotdish Apr 16, 2008 12:06 PM

                                        LGO does make a good burger; it's the fries that are the weak part.

                                      2. ccl1111 Apr 16, 2008 11:25 AM

                                        5 Guys. I used to live across the street from a 5 Guys in VA. Yum, yum.

                                        Would definitely agree with everybody's Delux rec and also agree with Wineubar that LGO makes a very nice burger.

                                        Nobody's mentioned Stax here yet and I don't know that it fits in the same category but for locals looking for something else to try, we've had fun there with the different mini-burgers. Some of the different meats can be a bit dry (mainly the super lean ones - think it was the ostrich) but we've enjoyed most of them (especially the Moroccan lamb one).

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                                        1. re: ccl1111
                                          Firenza00 Apr 16, 2008 11:58 AM

                                          LGO has such horrendous parking (valet now? wtf?) that Delux's huge shared with a Safeway parking lot would tip the scales for me even if we didn't love their burgers.

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                                            ciaogal Apr 16, 2008 01:01 PM

                                            I know no one has mentioned it....The Big Ass Burger @ The Roaring Fork.
                                            It has become the Staple Bar Menu Item....large enough to share and worth the trip!
                                            Don't know if Robert McGrath Pischke's Blue Ribbon Burger is similar to TBA Burger...has anyone tried it?

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                                            Pischke's Blue Ribbon
                                            7217 E 1st St, Scottsdale, AZ 85251

                                            Roaring Fork
                                            4800 N. Scottsdale Road, Scottsdale, AZ 85251

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                                              aztami Apr 16, 2008 03:19 PM

                                              see boingo2000's post above, mentioned both and said they were pretty much the same.

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                                                boingo2000 Apr 16, 2008 03:23 PM

                                                Actually, I haven't had the burger at Pischke's yet - I was going by the menu description. I did have the green chili stew though, and it was identical to RF's (which means it was awesome).

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                                                  johnseberg May 8, 2008 09:01 PM

                                                  I had the Blue Ribbon Burger at Pischke's, today. It was pretty good, but, I think I'd get it rare, next time, instead of medium rare. It wasn't as spicy as I remember the Big Ass Burger at Roaring Fork, but, it seemed identical - maybe just pepper variability. It's $12, but, includes a side, and you can get the green chile mac and cheese, though, it's not listed as a choice. Twelve ounces of beef is really too much for me, but, I managed to finish it.

                                                  They also have two other burgers, and use a house grind.

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                                              ccl1111 Apr 16, 2008 03:40 PM

                                              Yeah I totally agree on the parking. Went a couple weeks ago & it seems even worse now with all the spots in front marked 19 minute now. Might have reached a tipping point for us even though we love it.

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                                                azhotdish Apr 16, 2008 03:45 PM

                                                The spots facing 40th St are marked 19 minutes?

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                                                  ccl1111 Apr 16, 2008 03:57 PM

                                                  Yeah. There were only a couple before. Now a bunch of them are.

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                                                    azhotdish Apr 16, 2008 04:21 PM

                                                    Ridiculous - the ones between LGO and Postino made some sense for take-out, but in front? Good thing I usually ride my bike there!

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                                                    hollyeve Apr 16, 2008 04:15 PM

                                                    Several spots facing LGO are 19 minutes. The ones facing 40th St are unmarked.

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                                                      ccl1111 Apr 16, 2008 04:29 PM

                                                      I guess I'm getting my "facing" mixed up. I think there used to be 2 spots against LGO on the 40th street side that were marked 19 min. Now there are a bunch (but they're all against LGO - not nearest the street).

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                                              Beach Chick Apr 16, 2008 04:06 PM

                                              Chuckbox in Tempe on University..next to ASU best damn burger in Phoenix!

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                                                oryza May 6, 2008 01:44 PM

                                                I also second (third) the Chuckbox... not because I think the burgers are the "best" tasting I've ever had, but the atmosphere, the set-up, the experience is just so unique and fun. It's definitely worth the experience alone.

                                                And yes, the burgers are good enough to go for more than the atmosphere, especially given their incredibly low price point. Fries also are great and fried to order. Onion rings are not so great though.

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                                                  oryza May 6, 2008 01:46 PM

                                                  Oh, and the soda out of the machine is really good, too... Sounds wierd, but often you get watery or syrupy sodas at places, and this place seemed to have it together with the perfect syrup carbonated water ratios combined with the ice cubes and the nostalgic (but slightly guilt inducing) large styrofoam cups.

                                                2. azhotdish Apr 16, 2008 04:30 PM

                                                  I omitted another very good burger, the Arrogant Bastard Rustler Cheeseburger @ Orange Table ("We use 2-3oz Arrogant Bastard ale per burger, so don't be a bastard and finish your beer. One half pound. Angus beef hand-formed burger cooked to medium with a touch of Stone Brewery's Arrogant Bastard Ale topped with melted provolone, bacon, tomato, red onion, lettuce, our own spicy barbecue sauce and mayo served on grilled bun.")

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                                                  Orange Table
                                                  7373 E Scottsdale Mall, Scottsdale, AZ 85251

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                                                    furrybluecyclops Apr 16, 2008 04:36 PM

                                                    No one has mentioned Matt's Big Breakfast, which has a pretty decent burger they cook in butter...And I have to say that Uncle Bear's in Gilbert is REALLY good.

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                                                      ccl1111 Apr 16, 2008 04:50 PM

                                                      Good call. OT has great burgers. My fave is the Koobie with feta. Yummm..

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                                                        Random987 Apr 16, 2008 09:49 PM

                                                        I had this burger this past weekend and it was very, very good. It might be the best burger I've had in town. (I may be biased because this is one of my favorite beers)

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                                                          azhotdish Apr 16, 2008 10:00 PM

                                                          Yes AB is one of my favorites as well, it really adds richness to the meat. I love that you can buy the rest of the bottle for just a couple bucks more.

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                                                        madequity Apr 16, 2008 05:08 PM

                                                        Wow can't thank everyone enough for the solid feedback. We have Map Quest"ed" most and are ready for our tour de burger if you will. We actually are a bit fanatical about our burger joints. In fact we have a 100 point scoring system and take into consideration such things as bun to meat ratio, tenderness, bun softness, melting of cheese, appropriate condiment to meat ratio and on and on. Anyway thanks for all the sources. Was suprised no one sung the praises of "In and Out" though. When we did our LA tour recomendations for them was off the chart. Oh and for those that didn't get the 5 Guys reference here is a picture from one of our recent visits (and no we have no relation whatsoever to them....they simply make a tasty burger is all).

                                                         
                                                         
                                                         
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                                                        1. re: madequity
                                                          hohokam Apr 16, 2008 06:33 PM

                                                          My explanations for the relative unpopularity of In-N-Out here are that (1) In-N-Out is a fairly recent arrival in the Phx metro area and (2) folks on this board are more likely to patronize local and non-chain establishments than their "foreign-based" competitors.

                                                          In-n-Out has a long history in SoCal, so to me it's no surprise that LA hounds would have a stronger attachment than we do.

                                                          Personally, with options like Delux and Welcome Diner so close to my house, I can't see driving to Tempe or Paradise Valley for a burger I know I won't like as much. Also, having to memorize a secret code just to order a burger and fries cooked the way I like them at a place I rarely eat at anyway is something of a barrier to me.

                                                          Don't get me wrong. I think In-N-Out is a much better option than the typical multinational burger franchise, but I wouldn't go out of my way to eat there.

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                                                            boingo2000 Apr 16, 2008 08:54 PM

                                                            I think if the OP had specified "fast food" burger, In-N-Out would have won by a country mile. I do think In-N-Out is a good drive-thru burger, but no match for a decent sit-down place.

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                                                              azhotdish Apr 16, 2008 09:30 PM

                                                              Agree 100%.

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                                                                azhotdish May 6, 2008 12:27 PM

                                                                After my Culver's experience this weekend, I no longer feel this way - the ButterBurger is superior. Give it a shot!

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                                                                themis Apr 17, 2008 08:15 AM

                                                                See, I have history all over the west coast, and I plain don't care for In-N-Out's food. I do like their business model, however. I really can't care that the beef is never frozen and the fries are fresh-cut if they're tasteless in the first place. So while I can understand that a lot of people choose it above other fast-food places, I just think -- I can make a much better burger at home, and I think I will, by gum.

                                                                I am really fussy about burgers. I have yet to find any to replace the now defunct Minder Binder's burger special or that wrap place that used to be next to the Tempe Trader Joe's, can't remember the name. But they did a $5 burger, fries and draft beer special on Saturdays that was just glorious.

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                                                                  boingo2000 Apr 17, 2008 08:18 AM

                                                                  You're thinking of Bo-eatos! That place was pretty cool. Actually, Mac's Broiler and Tap, which is currently in that location, does a pretty good burger.

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                                                                    themis Apr 17, 2008 06:14 PM

                                                                    That's it, thank you! I stopped by Mac's once, and while I love it for being a neighborhood joint, the food didn't make up for the loss of BoEatos.

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                                                                    hohokam Apr 17, 2008 08:40 AM

                                                                    Yep. It's all relative. I don't think everyone in SoCal is down with In-N-Out, but the pro-In-N-Out sentiment does seem to be stronger out there than it is here.

                                                                    For me, In-N-Out has been an option I've turned to when I've needed a relatively quick meal while passing through a town that I'm unfamiliar with. As such, I've eaten at In-N-Out in places like Chico and Auburn, but never in Phx or anywhere in the Bay Area.

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                                                                      themis Apr 17, 2008 06:16 PM

                                                                      I'm the same way, I'll take it over a Wendy's if I'm on a road trip, but when a California ex-pat visits me and goes, 'Ohhh, we *have* to go to In-N-Out,' I just think, ". . .Okay." (sigh).

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                                                                  oryza Apr 21, 2008 07:35 PM

                                                                  Hey, don't discount In-N-Out. If you like 5 Guys, you may like In-N-Out

                                                                  I am a huge fan of 5 guys, too, from hungry college days... and in-n-out by virtue of long-standing fondness from childhood... They are comparable burgers, except 5 guys is famous for the crazy toppings and customization, while In-N-Out is the opposite, pretty famous for the most limited toppings available.

                                                                  And, the fries are very similar, except INO is usually hot, which has not been the typical experience for me at 5 Guys.

                                                                  And if you are going for more of the same, try Sonic which is a fun experience. Not greatest burgers, but pretty wacky drive-in eating. Worth the $5 to see it.

                                                                  But, that all being said; none of these places have what I would say is the best burger... to me, it may be the 2nd Edition, in Georgetown

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                                                                    ccl1111 Apr 22, 2008 12:51 PM

                                                                    2nd Edition or 3rd Edition? Haven't been in Georgetown since 1991 but I definitely remember a place by the name of 3rd Edition.

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                                                                      oryza May 6, 2008 12:12 PM

                                                                      It's probably 3rd... I never remember correctly... I know it's not first, or bigger than 3rd...

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                                                                        ccl1111 May 6, 2008 12:48 PM

                                                                        got you then. i'm actually heading back there next week for the first time in 17 years. may see if i can swing by1

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                                                                          oryza May 6, 2008 01:40 PM

                                                                          If you don't have anywhere to eat on Sunday night, and you're in Georgetown, then definitely go there for really good half price burgers...
                                                                          but as far as being a must stop? Don't carve out room in the schedule specifically to go there... DC offers too many other more unique flavors.

                                                                          and if you are in DC and hankering for a really good burger and are willing to swallow a self-consciously hip scene (or even, if you want to check it out), then try Matchbox in Chinatown. They have really terrific burgers too, with hand-battered and fried skinny onion rings (I love them). And the mini-burgers are just cool.

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                                                                  BrandonPHX Apr 17, 2008 12:26 AM

                                                                  I agree with the Delux and Roaring Fork recs, but I kind of disagree about LGO. The LGO burger is actually the only thing at LGO I'm not a big fan of. The one time I had the burger it was over-charred and lack any wow factor.

                                                                  One that I also like is Houston's, they make a damn good burger. I know it's a chain, but it is one of the better chain restaurants out there.

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                                                                    modthyrth Apr 18, 2008 12:52 PM

                                                                    I thought the burger at Joe's Farm Grill was delicious. I'll have to try the Grainbelt--it's about a mile and a half from our home, but we've never been there. I only remember the place when we're sitting outside of Joe's BBQ, already eating.

                                                                    RF's Big Ass burger is wonderful, but I haven't been to the happy hour for over a year.

                                                                    I've never particularly liked In-n-Out myself. The burgers are acceptable and I dislike the fries, so it's never my dining choice.

                                                                  2. ejs1492 May 7, 2008 08:17 AM

                                                                    At the risk of being scandalous, I'm going to suggest two burgers that are right up there, and neither qualifies as gourmet. I've always wanted to try Five Guys, by the way.

                                                                    1. Culver's Butter Burger....I love this burger. Reminds me of a mix between In-and-Out and Steak-n-Shake. (for you Mid-Westerners)

                                                                    2. Zipp's Sports Bar - Their double burger is greasy beefy cheesey goodness. In fact, I could eat one right now for breakfast.

                                                                    Yes, the Big Ass Burger at Roaring Fork is delicious but it doesn't satisfy like something a little bit more working-class.

                                                                    Although I've only been once, I was totally unimpressed by Delux and found my burger to consist of a ground beef blend that was far too lean and, therefore, dry. I don't get the hype, although I should give it another try.

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                                                                    1. re: ejs1492
                                                                      hohokam May 7, 2008 08:37 AM

                                                                      Weird. None of the burgers I've had at Delux (cooked medium) have been dry; however, I've only eaten there 3 or 4 times over a period of a year or so, thus my sample is also relatively limited.

                                                                    2. 1wino May 7, 2008 03:54 PM

                                                                      Sorry to keep this chain going, but I can' figure out what all the fuss is about re: Delux. I went there twice and thought it was all hype. My burger was small and the meat was kind of bland. I got the one with blue cheese and onions, and while those added some flavor, the patty itself was boring. Am I missing something?

                                                                      I vote for the Big A** Burger any day, and I also love the blue burger at Big Earl's Greasy Eats in Cave Creek. Sooo juicy!

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                                                                        Tom June May 8, 2008 05:36 PM

                                                                        I like the Chuckbox, and love the green chili burger at Carlsbad tavern. Can't discount In n' out either.

                                                                        I need to try Delux and Culver's sometime.

                                                                        1. ipsedixit May 9, 2008 09:13 AM

                                                                          I just tried the cheeseburger at White Chocolate Grill and arguably it is one the best burgers I've had at a sit-down place in quite a while. Probably better than Delux.

                                                                          http://www.whitechocolategrill.com/20...

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                                                                          1. re: ipsedixit
                                                                            ejs1492 May 9, 2008 09:41 AM

                                                                            Courageous response, as you'll probably get panned since it's a chain and Delux has a cult like following. :-) But I agree....they make a good, juicy burger with high quality ingredients. Like almost everything else there, it's a clone of Houston's but I think the burger is better.

                                                                            1. re: ejs1492
                                                                              Firenza00 May 9, 2008 10:50 AM

                                                                              I really like Houston's burgers. I believe WCG's management came from Houston's when they opened, so that would explain a lot. I haven't tried WCG's burger, but it's on my list to sample.

                                                                              1. re: Firenza00
                                                                                ipsedixit May 9, 2008 11:35 AM

                                                                                Yes, I believe one of the owners of White Chocolate Grill used to be management at Houston's.

                                                                                As to Delux v. White Chocolate Grill. I think both are good, but the burger I had the other day at White Chocolate Grill was definitely a bit better than Delux -- and as I posted above a while back, I was really smitten by the burger at Delux that I had.

                                                                                Both are good, sort of like saying do you prefer a Ferrari or a Porsche ...

                                                                              2. re: ejs1492
                                                                                azhotdish May 9, 2008 01:36 PM

                                                                                In light of this discussion I had lunch @ Houston's today; I've recommended their Hickory Burger before and I needed an updated opinion.

                                                                                I was disappointed for three reasons:

                                                                                1) I asked for medium - the burger was half medium/half well-done. Hot-spot on the grill perhaps?
                                                                                2) Too little hickory sauce and what was there didn't taste the same - it wasn't as smoky as I remember. This burger used to be a mess to eat - not so much today.
                                                                                3) Take-out policy confusion - I called and they said they don't do take-out from 11:30-2:30 because of the lunch rush. I walked over anyway at 12:45, and they didn't have a problem taking my order.

                                                                                $16 for an average-tasting (and half-dry) burger w/fries (including tip) and no drink seems steep. I had the standard classic burger @ Delux about a month ago and still have to say it's better. A little disappointed with Houston's today.

                                                                                1. re: azhotdish
                                                                                  Firenza00 May 9, 2008 01:55 PM

                                                                                  The Hickory Burger is what I usually get at Houston's, sans the Canadian bacon. They usually give you a ramekin of the sauce on the side when you eat there. Perhaps they don't for take-out. I get my burgers medium-well, and they generally get it right. I do agree that Delux burgers are usually better.

                                                                                  We were wondering that happened to you. We thought you were going to be at Welcome with us.

                                                                                  1. re: Firenza00
                                                                                    azhotdish May 9, 2008 02:04 PM

                                                                                    I had planned to, but apparently winedubar didn't want to answer her email or phone to confirm you were still going. Next time...

                                                                                    I should have confirmed the side of sauce before I walked out but I didn't; still not sure it would have saved it, though.

                                                                                    1. re: azhotdish
                                                                                      Firenza00 May 9, 2008 02:52 PM

                                                                                      She sent out an email to the gathering group. You didn't get it? Bummer. I can't speak for the burgers at WD, but the hot dog wasn't as good as it used to be, nor were the fries. Kind of a bummer.

                                                                                  2. re: azhotdish
                                                                                    JK Grence the Cosmic Jester May 9, 2008 03:27 PM

                                                                                    I think that by "no to-go orders" they mean "No phoned in orders for an entire office". Try calling them and saying you want just one entree to go and see if that works better.

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                                                                                      AnonymousWaitress May 10, 2008 05:01 PM

                                                                                      That's how we do it, and how many restaurants do. The bartender, or whoever is in charge of answering the phone, is just too busy to answer the phone during the rush. However, I'd say the majority of restaurants will let you place an order of reasonable size in person.

                                                                                      Also, whenever people complain about the price of delux(yelp reviews, etc) I always think about how burgers and fries at red robin or applebees cost 9 bucks, so whats wrong with paying 3 dollars extra for a small order of fries and a way better burger at delux?

                                                                                  3. re: ipsedixit
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                                                                                    Lala0310 May 9, 2008 10:50 AM

                                                                                    Thanks for the link I just checked out their menu, yum! We will have to check it out.

                                                                                  4. grrlscout May 9, 2008 12:40 PM

                                                                                    Wow. 5 Guys. Haven't thought of that place in yearrrrrs.

                                                                                    I too, don't get Delux. It cute and cool, but the burger didn't really do it for me. Mine was kind of dry and flavorless.

                                                                                    I went to Chuckbox once, and it was a few years ago. I remember I found their burger rather enjoyable.

                                                                                    But honestly, my favorite so far is the American Kobe burger at Sonoran Brewhouse -- especially with the grilled onions.

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                                                                                      jhenner May 9, 2008 01:18 PM

                                                                                      The fact they're a really good micro-brewery helps, too!

                                                                                      1. re: jhenner
                                                                                        grrlscout May 9, 2008 02:37 PM

                                                                                        Sitting on the patio with a Light Rail Cream Ale (Vanilla Porter in the Fall) and an American Kobe burger, preceded by those tasty nacho chips, and I am fat-rat happy.

                                                                                    2. azbirdiemaker May 9, 2008 02:39 PM

                                                                                      I want to jump back in here and say that I what I really like about Delux is that it's like a burger that i would grill out at home. The consistency of the beef and the grind - it's just so different from what you get most other places. The toppings are good and the bun is just right.

                                                                                      This, to me, is what distinguishes Delux from other burger places around.

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                                                                                        graywolf May 9, 2008 07:04 PM

                                                                                        Let me tell you about a place called Wild Horse West on Carefree Highway. I have been in the valley for 27 years and let me tell you it has the absolute BEST BURGER in the county and the best thing about it, it's only 5 bucks. Do yourself a favor my burger loving friend head out to the boondocks and tell'em Graywolf sent you.

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