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Oakland Kosher vs Tel Aviv Kosher Market and Cheap Matzah Hunt

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elliora Apr 14, 2008 09:22 PM

Ok a few questions. I have been to Oakland kosher but not the Tel Aviv kosher market in the city. In general how do the two compare? Secondly are either worth making a special trip to for getting Passover stuff as opposed to what Safeway offers? With the price of gas and coming from Walnut Creek, I want it to be worth it. Lastly somewhat related, where is the best place for matzah this year? Costco stopped carrying it and this was my go to place the last few years. I make the best Matzah chocolate candy stuff and needs tons of matzah! Thanks!

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    sugartoof RE: elliora Apr 14, 2008 11:44 PM

    I haven't visited Tel AViv Market this year, and the selection changes from year to year...nor can I compare it to Oakland Kosher...but! Tel Aviv usually carries 2-3 brand of matzoh. They usually have at least one interesting Israeli brand you won't see in the supermarket. The best passover stuff they carry are the imports. Not cheap though. There are a number of Russian markets with passover goods too, and another kosher deli to check out on Geary that;s easy to miss. Also, Molly Stones usually has a good selection by SF standards....some years are okay at Adronicos too. If might take a little running around.

    1. CyndiN RE: elliora Apr 15, 2008 01:29 AM

      It's not the cheapest, but it's the best...the only matzoh I'd consider buying is an organic brand that you can find in various places, including Whole Foods. Yehuda. Here's a review: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article... though I don't quite understand it because I have had the organic many times and it's light, crisp, and doesn't have that chalky mouthfeel that the whole wheat matzohs have (despite what the review says). Maybe it was a different variety?

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        david kaplan RE: elliora Apr 15, 2008 06:05 AM

        I have only shopped at Tel Aviv Kosher. They messed up my special order, overcharged on some items, and had a disappointing selection of the more obscure Passover items. In contrast, my East Bay relatives praise Oakland Kosher. So, though I can't made a head-to-head personal comparison, I think the superior place is also the one closer to you.

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          sugartoof RE: david kaplan Apr 15, 2008 11:22 AM

          I think they're a bit notorious for "putting their thumb on the scale" or whatever the saying is. You have to watch them.

          The place gets ransacked so you have to go early for the oddball items. They don't have a very deep stock, so when those marshmellows go they don't replace them and eventually all they have is Matzoh, and a box of Jelly candies.

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            david kaplan RE: sugartoof Apr 15, 2008 01:52 PM

            Yeah, I discovered after getting home from shopping that the pint-sized containers of homemade kosher chicken broth -- and I paid per pint -- only had around a cup and a half of broth each. The rip-off was annoying enough, but having to go run out and find more kosher chicken broth at the last minute was worse.

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              milklady RE: david kaplan Apr 15, 2008 02:57 PM

              FYI, I've had similar experiences at Oakland Kosher. The customer service often leaves something to be desired. I've never been to Tel Aviv in person, but they tried very hard to help me over the phone when I needed a large special order (at Oakland Kosher they wouldn't even talk about helping).

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              bernalgirl RE: sugartoof Apr 21, 2008 01:22 PM

              It's worth noting that Tel Aviv is under new ownership since last Passover. The owner was trying to explain their lack of some items, that the past owner had suggested order amounts that were way below this year's demand. That said, they were well stocked as of Thursday.

              They had all the matzoh cereals (the honey O's aren't bad although fiberless, and there's the cocoa puffs knock off) and they had rye matzah, which is less chalk-like than whole wheat matzah, not overwhelmingly rye-flavored, and packs a whopping (by matzah standards) 4.5 grams of fiber per square.

              Also, one of the owners told me about a delicious matzoh item that he had "invented last night": he called them chicken "egg rolls," he used their
              chicken schnitzel and a tasty cilantro and cumin spread, rolled in a moistened matzah, brushed with an egg wash and baked. They were tasty! I plan to go back and get more, they are the perfect size for lunch with a salad or other veg.

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                Jennalynn RE: bernalgirl Apr 21, 2008 03:23 PM

                Hmmmm those chicken rolls sound good.

                I may try to invent a version here at home.

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            suebe RE: elliora Apr 15, 2008 08:21 AM

            I bought a 4 (5?) pack at Safeway (College and Telegraph) for the amazing price of $3.99! It was the Yehuda brand- don't remember if organic or not.. do they make a non-organic version? Anyway, a fabulous deal!

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              fiacrackaBANG RE: suebe Apr 21, 2008 05:33 PM

              i hope they still have some -- i'm heading over to 51st and broadway safeway this evening to replenish my matzo supply. went to the new WF on 27th street on friday and was told by an employee that there was a "huge passover display" in the front of the store. i get there, and it's the end-cap of 1 cash register... haha guess i can't expect the bay to compare to l.a. when it comes to jewish stuff.

              i bought a box of that organic matzo but it was $4.99! for one box! zomg.

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              Nancy Berry RE: elliora Apr 15, 2008 10:14 AM

              Safeway is carrying both Yehuda and Osem brand matzo in 5-lb. packages (5 boxes) for between $3.99 and $4.99 ea.

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                chemchef RE: Nancy Berry Apr 15, 2008 03:10 PM

                organic or non-organic??

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                  suebe RE: chemchef Apr 16, 2008 09:30 AM

                  checked boxes this AM-
                  non-organic

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                milklady RE: elliora Apr 15, 2008 09:03 PM

                Oakland Kosher has matzo for 99cents a box.

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                  elliora RE: elliora Apr 17, 2008 08:58 AM

                  Thanks for all the replies. I think I'll just stick with the supermarket for my passover goods this year. Although I'll be looking for some of the Yehuda matzah mentioned. I need the regular kind for my candy, but for eating it's nice to to have a healthier option.
                  I will go check out Tel Aviv Kosher after the holidays but now I know to avoid anything being weighed or at least keep my eye on them. Funny story too, I had called Oakland kosher to see if they have Kosher coke, first time I got put on hold and they never came back. Second time I called the guy says "I don't think so lady" in the most dramatic tone, like something out of a movie, so both stores may be lacking in customer service!

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                    sugartoof RE: elliora Apr 17, 2008 05:14 PM

                    Tried to do some Passover shopping, and it's looking bleak out there. They just didn't order anything...and a lot of it looks like old stock. Safeway and Molly Stone only had unsalted....and Andronicos only had Osem, no gifelte fish, and some of their other products in the Passover section were not even kosher for passover. Oddly, I'm not seeing any Streit's products at all.

                    The manager at Molly Stones said there's a Matzoh shortage (which is ridiculous because there was plenty on shelves in NY this year).

                    Tel Aviv looked to be selling old stock honestly. There wasn't much there. The packaged Osem pound cakes were the only cakes they had. Depressing.

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                      ctssfo RE: elliora Apr 17, 2008 06:19 PM

                      surprisingly, i found quite a large selection of passover foods at lucky's in lakeshore plaza (going east on sloat blvd., past stern grove).

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                        sugartoof RE: ctssfo Apr 18, 2008 12:35 AM

                        Careful with the Matzoh there. They didn't have a single box of matzoh that's kosher for passover, and they stuck the regular stuff in the passover section. They were seriously picked through, but they had some leftovers.

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                          ctssfo RE: sugartoof Apr 18, 2008 03:46 PM

                          i suppose they had sold out of matzah by the time you were there... i bought two boxes of kosher for passover matzah and lots of other passover manischewitz products there last weekend... guess they need to stock more next year.

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                            sugartoof RE: ctssfo Apr 18, 2008 07:09 PM

                            Oh good to hear there was at least some product as of last week. Thanks for the suggestion anyway, in past years Lucky had a great selection. Aw well.

                      2. Jennalynn RE: elliora Apr 17, 2008 06:39 PM

                        If there's a 99 cent store near you, Kosher for Passover Matzoh 2 for 99 cents.

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                          sugartoof RE: Jennalynn Apr 18, 2008 12:38 AM

                          wow! any location you know has it for sure? i know a lot of the 99cent stores carry similar stock, but it's enough work just running from supermarket to supermarket.

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                          alag RE: elliora Apr 17, 2008 08:44 PM

                          Okay, I was just at the Whole Foods in Walnut Creek, and they're completely sold out of matzoh! Apparently people got word of a shortage and bought out their entire supply this afternoon. And Whole Foods won't be getting another shipment in.

                          Any other reports of this around the bay?

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                            sugartoof RE: alag Apr 18, 2008 12:37 AM

                            Were they wiped out of passover cakes too?

                            There is a matzoh draught...and all I've found was unsalted Manishevitz at Safeway. If anyone spots a good selection please report back!

                            Trader Joe's in Westlake said they got 10 calls today alone, and said the didn't order it because they had thrown out more then they sold last year. (well....don't order less then, don't just not order it! grrr)

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                            oaklandkosher RE: elliora Dec 18, 2011 11:37 AM

                            Tel aviv Kosher market is closed since 2010.

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