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Pip Apr 9, 2008 08:28 AM

Hey hounds - I'm cooking for 10 people this Saturday and have never bought short ribs before but also can't remember seeing them anywhere. Does anyone have a recommendation on where to buy them in Minneapolis? I know I could just call my local coop and ask them, but this is my first stop.

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    Danny Apr 9, 2008 08:32 AM

    My local Cub usually has them - generally with the "ethnic" meats like pigs feet, etc.

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      soupkitten Apr 9, 2008 08:57 AM

      ready meats

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      Ready Meats
      3550 Johnson St NE, Minneapolis, MN 55418

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        doraji Apr 9, 2008 09:16 AM

        I primarily buy short ribs when making kalbi (korean bbq short ribs) so my grocer of choice is Dong Yang which is a korean grocery store in Columbia Heights.

        1. cheeseguysgirl Apr 9, 2008 12:50 PM

          Your first decision to make is what cut of short ribs do you want-- flanken style (like Korean, flat and long, with about 3 ribs per piece of meat), or the other kind (I think they're called English, or short cut, where they are fatter and you get one rib per piece of meat). You can also get boneless at Costco. The flanken style are easier to find- Korean stores, Cub, Rainbow all have them. We tried to find "the other kind" since that is the way we prefer, and we found that the Kowalski's in Uptown was showing the flanken style but upon hearing our discussion, the butcher there offered to cut the ribs the way we wanted, since they get the primal cuts and butcher them themselves. Any place that gets primal cuts could do it-- I was just so impressed that the Kowalski's guy offered.

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            Pip Apr 9, 2008 02:05 PM

            I'm making Braised Short Ribs with Horseradish Gremolata (Brasato al Barolo). It's a Mario Batali recipe found here: http://www.leitesculinaria.com/recipe...

            the recipe calls for four 16-ounce beef short ribs (it serves 4 people). the author's note on the blog says:

            "We use beef short ribs for this dish and it works out great. You could just as easily use brisket or blade, but I prefer the richness of the ribs. Have your butcher cut between and along the length of the bone. The most important step here is the initial browning; do not shorten it or the final braise will not be as intensely flavored or colored."

            any suggestions on what cut to ask for? i can certainly call kowalski's and ask the butcher there for that cut, right?

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              cheeseguysgirl Apr 9, 2008 02:39 PM

              That's the "other kind" of cut. If you tell the butcher you want it cut between each bone so there's one bone per serving, you'll get it done the right way.

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                Pip Apr 11, 2008 07:46 AM

                thanks so much! I just called Kowalski's in Uptown and talked to the butcher. he knows what i'm doing with it, for how many people, and i asked him specifically to cut it between each bone so there's one bone per serving.

                everything is easier when you go to the people who know. thanks, hounds!

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            Dragon Apr 9, 2008 01:15 PM

            Clancey's will also cut to order. I once had them debone the short ribs but retain enough meat to keep the piece whole, so that I could roll it up and braise them in an ancho chile sauce...they were extremely accommodating ...

            Dragon

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            Clancey's Meats & Fish
            4307 Upton Ave S, Minneapolis, MN 55410

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              St Paul Susie Apr 9, 2008 02:26 PM

              I've been pleased with what I've rec'd at Whole Foods on grand this past winter.

              Note: some recipes for ribs said "serves 6" and served 2. Just something to think about......

              1. ibew292 Apr 9, 2008 04:08 PM

                Everett's Foods & Meats 1833 E. 38th Street, Minneapolis, 612.729.6629. They do it right, I believe that Clancys is over rated.

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                  MNLawGirl Apr 10, 2008 09:10 AM

                  I just made short ribs yesterday - and bought about 24 long short ribs for $11 at Sams Club. I know - Sams Club - but I like to get my meat there when I'm serving a crew. They are the longer cut - not the stacked square cut that you often see. The stacked square cut I find at Rainbow but usually can only find a couple packages of 3 and they are really expensive. Good luck.

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                    fendel Jan 5, 2009 12:05 PM

                    Hope people don't mind if I resurrect this thread, I'm on a short ribs quest.

                    What kinds of prices are you guys seeing out there? So far I have seen English-style short ribs for $4/lb at the Uptown Rainbow and $6/lb at the Edina Cub; and flanken ribs at SLP Byerly's for $9/lb. (In each case, the meat case only had one kind of beef short ribs, i.e., no choice between English style and flanken anywhere that I've been). I bought the Rainbow ribs and was dismayed to be paying that much for something that was mostly bone and connective tissue, but when I started shopping around I realized the ribs cost even more elsewhere. The 1.5 lbs I bought yielded two smallish portions -- barely -- which I suppose is acceptable for $6.

                    I saw "boneless beef ribs" at Rainbow that seemed to be basically rib-shaped chunks of chuck roast -- they did not resemble the real short ribs -- am I right in assuming I'd be disappointed with those?

                    I'm interested in hearing what people are paying for short ribs at butcher shops. (Yeah, I could call and ask, but I'm shy.) Am considering checking out Everett's and Ready Meats, and maybe Finer Meats at 38th & Nicollet since I live close to there. I love Clancey's but they are way out of my price range until I find a job (and probably even then).

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                      tex.s.toast Jan 5, 2009 06:57 PM

                      I made short ribs about a month ago with some ribs i bought at Widmer's on St Clair in Saint Paul. They came out really well, but i will agree with you that it seems like you generally pay a lot for something with a rather lot of bone and other non-edibles. I paid a bit under 5 bucks a pound for about 8 pieces of English style ribs. when i asked about flanken the guy behind the counter looked at me like i was a martian and said he hadnt seen them or had anyone ask about them in forever.

                      my dad runs a restaurant, and his dad was a butcher, and he seemed to think that the price i paid was relatively fair. he mentioned something about high demand in asia for the seemingly inflated prices on the short ribs which do remain behind here in the US.

                      Its not a definitive vote, but i was very pleased with the service and quality at Widmers and the prices seem to be about average.

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                        g_rote Jan 6, 2009 12:11 PM

                        Clancy's has the most beautiful pre-cut boneless short ribs I've ever seen. about the size of your fist, but much more well marbled.

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                        fendel Jan 6, 2009 12:15 PM

                        Thanks tex & g_rote. Good to know about Widmer's. G_rote, do you recall the Clancy's price for short ribs?

                        Today I found "beef riblets" in a different Rainbow for $1.99/lb. They look like flanken style short ribs except rather thin-cut and with smaller bones. My guess is there would be small morsels of nice meat amidst the connective tissue--not something I'd want to serve to anyone (even my non-picky husband), but since I'm doing dinner-for-one later this week, I figured what the heck, I'll try them.

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                          getgot211 Jan 7, 2009 01:33 AM

                          IIRC Clancey's short ribs are just under $10/lb.

                          pretty damn tasty though.

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                            tex.s.toast Jan 7, 2009 05:23 AM

                            in my experience, "riblets" usually describes what are otherwise known as rib tips, which come from trimming the fat end off of a whole slab of pork spare ribs (leaving you with a saint-louis style pork rib, of a more uniform thickness and manageable length).

                            im pretty sure you wont find the name beef riblets in any official taxonomy of cow parts, and im equally sure anatomical differences make the existence of beef rib tips unlikely - beef ribs aren't even generally regarded as legitimate cuts - they are pretty much saleable by-products and only available frozen.

                            Id be curious to know which Rainbow you were at and if anyone there could give you a more definitive answer on what a beef riblet was. Ive found the guys at the butcher counter at the lake and hiawatha store to be very friendly and relatively knowledgable, for chain supermarket butchers.

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                              dahlsk Jan 7, 2009 08:27 AM

                              I am going to make this recipe this weekend for a dinner party: http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/foo...

                              I assume I need "the other kind of ribs" as discussed in the previous posts? Any update on prices/places to go that are recommended esp. in St. Paul? Anyone have luck with the St. Paul Kowalski's or WF compared to the Uptown one? Thanks!

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                                mncharm Jan 7, 2009 08:31 AM

                                I've bought short ribs at Kowalski's on Grand with good results...it's been a while, though, no idea what I paid or how it compares.

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                                  tex.s.toast Jan 7, 2009 09:05 AM

                                  While i do sometimes shop kowalski's on grand i find the prices pretty offensive. no clue what they are getting for short ribs but if i had to guess id say you could save a few dollars per person by shopping at Widmers.

                                  From the picture in that recipe you linked to it looks like they used english style, which was what i got at Widmers. Hardly definitive but it seems in the picture that on the left hand side you are looking down the length of the single bone with the meat sitting atop it.

                                  Good luck witht the dish, and do report back on where you go, what you get and how much you pay.

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                                    St Paul Susie Jan 8, 2009 10:10 AM

                                    I recently intended to buy short ribs at WF on grand/fairview and they were horrible looking. I inquired and the butcher said "sometimes we get prime, sometimes we get choice" so maybe worth a call in advance.

                                    I no longer purchase any fresh meat from the grand avenue Kowalski's - I have had some serious issues there. And when I brought it to the attention of a manager they could have cared less.

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                                    fendel Jan 8, 2009 09:21 AM

                                    Tex, the "riblets" were at the Rainbow in Richfield (at the Hub)... after I posted, I saw a picture of Korean kalbi online and they looked a lot like that.

                                    I just noticed I can attach a photo (click or mouse over the tiny thumbnail). Here they are in their chilled not-defatted-yet braising liquid, bones mostly removed. Not exactly pretty, but for a super-cheap dinner-for-one I can work with these.

                                     
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                                BigE Jan 8, 2009 08:18 AM

                                I was at the Kowalski's in White Bear Lake (Hwy 61) yesterday, and the short ribs were $6/pound. They were cut in 3" squares, give or take.

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                                  soupkitten Jan 8, 2009 09:46 AM

                                  hey have you all considered trying the ribs from the butchers at the asian groceries, like shuang hur? i got cheap short ribs there when i lived handy, don't know about their current prices. sometimes the ribs are sold frozen. note that i am just trying to point out the cheap option, as price has been raised. . .

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                                    dahlsk Jan 8, 2009 01:47 PM

                                    Just called Kowalski's and they said they had them in stock at 5.99/lb. I also called Widmer's and they were 4.59/lb also in stock. Think I'll support the little guy and go to Widmer's. Thanks for your comments, I'll post how things turn out!

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                                      dahlsk Jan 20, 2009 06:09 AM

                                      Just had to add one more follow up to say that the ribs from Widmer's were great. I bought 7 pounds and finished up their stock that day, so they gave me a deal of 4.39 a pound, too.

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                                        fromtheD Jan 20, 2009 07:37 AM

                                        I went to Ready Meats - the price was $4.99/pound for the english style ribs. The sales clerk mentioned that he had been selling a lot of short ribs recently. The ribs were fantastic! I am definitely heading back that way next time I need something.

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                                          St Paul Susie Jan 25, 2009 06:11 AM

                                          I got some from Widmer's this past week and they were amazing and a great deal.

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                                      tex.s.toast Jan 23, 2009 05:30 AM

                                      I just happened to be walking around the midtown global market when i saw FLANKEN cut short ribs in the deli case at the holy land outpost there. no clue as to the price (i didnt ask as im not eating meat at the moment) but they were definitively flanken cut short ribs as opposed to the english ones i found at widmers and kowalskis in st paul.

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