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Is there a restaurant like Alinea or Moto in NYC?

JAHarz Apr 8, 2008 06:09 AM


  1. JungMann Apr 8, 2008 06:25 AM

    wd-50 specializes in that type of molecular gastronomy.

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      jasmurph Apr 8, 2008 06:52 AM

      WD-50 is good, really good. It is not Alinea. Not even close.

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        David W Apr 8, 2008 07:18 AM

        WD-50 is the closest you'll get in NY, but I agree-Dufresne does the odd combinations and some creative stuff but it's not the wild flights of fancy of the Chicago chefs...
        Well worth a trip, but don't expect it to be too crazy.
        I still think about the Mozzarella puff filled with tomato air I had when Atchez was at Trio...not to mention the frogs legs and morels served with pine branches soaked in boiling water (for the fragrance.)

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          brooklyndude Apr 8, 2008 08:26 AM

          WD-50 blows Moto out of the water. Not even close. I agree that Alinea is better, but WD-50 is still worth eating at.

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            David W Apr 8, 2008 10:18 AM

            I wouldn't argue your point about the quality of the food, but Moto is a bit more...something. As an example:

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              brooklyndude Apr 8, 2008 02:29 PM

              A bit more amateur? A whole lot more gimmicky? WD-50, while without the gimmicky presentation, serves much more intellectual cuisine.

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          irmazandl Apr 8, 2008 02:05 PM

          alinea is without par. wd-50 has become very disappointing - have been there a few times and it seems to be getting very tired. moto is just a joke as far as i'm concerned. to even speak of alinea and moto in the same sentence is a travesty.

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            brooklyndude Apr 8, 2008 02:30 PM

            I totally agree about Moto.

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            irmazandl Apr 8, 2008 02:11 PM

            i forgot to note that i've found some of daniel humm's cooking at eleven madison to be on a similar plane to some of what they do at alinea - in spirit at least although eleven madison is much more mainstream but the chef does occasionally go wild and conjure up some experimental masterpiece that always makes me think of alinea. but do not go there thinking you will get the alinea experience - that is not to be found in nyc according to my culinary searches.

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              hominaray Apr 8, 2008 03:31 PM

              While not exactly "experimental" like Alinea or even WD-50, Momofuku Ko seems to definitely tries to push boundaries (frozed shaved fois gras w lychee brittle, oysters w/ kimchee broth etc).

              And the bonus would be that if you were visiting from Chicago, you couldn't pull off a better coup these days than scoring a resy for this place.

              1. jakew8 Apr 8, 2008 04:26 PM

                An EXTENSIVE list of WD-50 pros and cons can be found here:


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                  bob gaj Apr 8, 2008 06:24 PM

                  i'm fortunate enough to have eaten at the above restaurants.

                  i think alinea is the best meal, from beginning to end. i put ko not too far below there in terms of quality (though NOT service/ambience; i don't care about that, but it's definitely an issue for some). but alinea just hits so many perfect notes all the way through, pushing the boundaries a little while never losing the main focus - how does it taste? and alinea does it through more courses.

                  i think moto is the most experimental, with some incredible highs.

                  i like wd-50 bunches, but it's nowhere near alinea. that's not a knock on wd - just singing the praises of alinea.

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