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cmm3 Apr 8, 2008 01:44 AM

What's the best NYC-esque bagel place in Boston? (The closer to Harvard Square, the better). If it helps, I'm a big fan of Ess-a Bagel in Manhattan.

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  1. hiddenboston RE: cmm3 Apr 8, 2008 05:45 AM

    Here's a thread that might give you some ideas:

    http://www.chowhound.com/topics/334678

    Personally, I can't find a really good bagel in the Boston area. I don't mind Kupel's in Brookline and used to like Zeppy's (before they closed the Randolph shop), but lately, the only place I've gotten a decent bagel is at Expresso Royale/Bagel Rising on Newbury Street.

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      daylight RE: hiddenboston Apr 9, 2008 12:41 PM

      it's too bad they don't have "i love bagels" on the east coast.
      that was my favorite bagel place in california.
      great breakfast sandwiches....

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        absurdny RE: daylight May 18, 2008 06:04 AM

        There is a "i love bagels" on the east coast. It's in NY on long island. I love that place. They might have other ones in other states on the east coast too. I know that "i love bagels" in NY is way better then the one in cali. NY bagels, and pizza is that best. no other state compares with it.

    2. Science Chick RE: cmm3 Apr 8, 2008 06:59 AM

      Rosenfeld's in Newton Center is the best in the area by far.......

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      Rosenfeld Bagel Co
      1280 Centre St, Newton, MA

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        Ralphie_in_Boston RE: Science Chick Apr 8, 2008 10:19 AM

        Second that. Rosenfelds is awesome. Not a clone of Ess-a-bagel (which is also great) but IMO they are hands down the best in the Boston Area.

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          saltyair RE: Ralphie_in_Boston Apr 9, 2008 11:24 AM

          I third! The best sunflower bagels in the biz.

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          Kazy Ctn RE: Science Chick Apr 21, 2008 11:54 AM

          I would have to agree 100% with Science Chick. Growing up in NJ, I can say it's the real deal.

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          FoonFan RE: cmm3 Apr 8, 2008 07:04 AM

          Iggy's makes really nice seeded bagels. Not New York style, but very good nonetheless.

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            Karl S RE: FoonFan Apr 9, 2008 07:54 AM

            Supposedly, Iggy's are more Montreal in style.

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            winedude RE: cmm3 Apr 8, 2008 10:24 AM

            I'm a big fan of Ess-a-Bagel as well, and the closest I've found here is Cafe Fresh Bagel in Needham or Dedham. Pretty close to the best NY ones, at about 1/2 the price.

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              ShelT54 RE: cmm3 Apr 8, 2008 03:36 PM

              Bagels at Rosenfelds are tasty but too small and they're too cheap to give you a baker's dozen. Cafe Bagel in Needham and Dedham, and Bagel's Best in Needham are both good. Best chain is Finagle a Bagel. Zeppy's is overrated.

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                bartleby RE: ShelT54 Apr 8, 2008 03:42 PM

                Rosenfeld's bagels aren't too small; everybody else's are too big. A classic NY bagel is half the size of the monstrosities purveyed these days. Of course, even in NY, it's hard to find a classic NY bagel any more.

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                  Karl S RE: ShelT54 Apr 9, 2008 07:53 AM

                  Small bagels are GOOD bagels. They are a sign of the use of malt instead of sugar to feed the yeast, creating the classic dense crumb.

                  Finagle a Bagel are not bagels - they are bread doughnuts. Brueggers more classic flavors (like plain, pumpernickel, poppy) are the best of the local chains - Bruegger's uses malt for those, IIRC. Just avoid the sweet or novelty flavors.

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                    pamalamb RE: Karl S Apr 10, 2008 06:11 AM

                    Finagle uses a mix of malt and sugar in their bagels. I tried one of their chunky vegetable bagels the other day and really enjoyed it (but I'm not bagel purist).

                    Brueggers makes a really great rosemary and olive oil bagel. Yum!

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                      Karl S RE: pamalamb Apr 10, 2008 08:34 AM

                      Finagle bagels are way too airy and soft for me to consider them bagel-worthy.

                      A really good bagel is smallish, a sturdy boiled crust with the shine from an alkaline wash, and so dense that it requires work to chew it, and should go stale relatively quickly (not quite as fast as a proper hard roll goes stale, but within a day).

                2. ipsofatso RE: cmm3 Apr 8, 2008 05:47 PM

                  In Salem & Danvers there is Bagelworld

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                    Karl S RE: ipsofatso Apr 9, 2008 07:54 AM

                    And Reading. Those can be good, if a bit too large.

                  2. almansa RE: cmm3 Apr 8, 2008 06:21 PM

                    When I lived in Cambridge, Formaggio Kitchen sold H&H Bagels every day until they ran out. They may still.

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                      lergnom RE: cmm3 Apr 9, 2008 12:26 PM

                      Katz's in Chelsea makes the best alongside Rosenfeld's in Newton. Katz's bagels are 4 ounces, which is the standard NYC size. Most bagels these days are bigger and more like bread.

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                        Infomaniac RE: lergnom Apr 9, 2008 12:52 PM

                        Katz and Rosenfeld are my two go to places for bagels. I like Rosenfeld's I don't get to Newton that often. Love the Katz pizza bagels too.

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                        supergirl1964 RE: cmm3 Apr 10, 2008 10:17 AM

                        Rosenfelds. Period.

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                          steinpilz RE: supergirl1964 Apr 13, 2008 11:20 AM

                          I'll second everyone who has mentioned Rosenfeld's. I never thought they're small, nor do I agree with the other complaints.

                          They'll be closed from April 18-30 for Passover BTW.

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                          hoolese RE: cmm3 Apr 10, 2008 11:03 AM

                          Diamond Bakery in Newton (4 Corners) and Rosenfelds in Newton Ctr.

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                            Science Chick RE: hoolese Apr 10, 2008 12:38 PM

                            I thought Diamond was gone? I know they changed hands recently and previous reports were not positive. Here's the thread...
                            http://www.chowhound.com/topics/466748

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                              Ralphie_in_Boston RE: Science Chick Apr 10, 2008 12:40 PM

                              Yeah, Diamond is/was not very good. Especially with Rosenfeld's just up Beacon Street from there.

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                            hyde RE: cmm3 Apr 13, 2008 07:42 AM

                            in all fairness to the idea that rosenfelds is too cheap to give you a bakers dozen, if you get one of their frequent buyers cards, after you buy twelve dozen you get a dozen for free. a better deal overall when you end up with a free dozen rosenfelds bagels!

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                              overproofed RE: hyde Apr 14, 2008 07:12 AM

                              And they advertise in those "envelopes full of coupons" (ValuPak?) that show up in the mail - at least in some areas. They offer coupons for 8 bagels for the price of 6, and 18 bagels for the price of 12.

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                              buffet king RE: cmm3 Apr 13, 2008 08:44 AM

                              Picked up my bakers dozen of bagels ($6.50) from Katz in Chelsea today. There was a line of people waiting to buy bagels. Katz also sells hot dog bagels made with Vienna Beef hot dogs. They have a big neon Vienna Beef sign in their window. Their hot dog bagels are delicious.

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                                buffet king RE: buffet king Apr 13, 2008 08:45 AM

                                Katz also had hot out of the oven pizza bagels today.

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                                139 Park St, Chelsea, MA

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                                  lergnom RE: buffet king Apr 13, 2008 12:51 PM

                                  That sign is new. They also painted last summer.

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                                  baconodka RE: cmm3 May 19, 2008 12:04 PM

                                  i second (or third) iggys. really really good bagels. not NY-style, but chewey with a nice crust (or whatever the outside of a bagel is called) and yummy.

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