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<topic>
  <id>507220</id>
  <title>Best bagel place?</title>
  <published_at>Tue Apr 08 01:44:30 -0700 2008</published_at>
  <post_count>31</post_count>
  <board>
    <id>12</id>
    <name>Boston Area</name>
  </board>
  <posts>
    <post>
      <post>
        <level>0</level>
        <id>3572360</id>
        <content>What's the best NYC-esque bagel place in Boston? (The closer to Harvard Square, the better). If it helps, I'm a big fan of Ess-a Bagel in Manhattan.</content>
        <published_at>Tue Apr 08 01:44:30 -0700 2008</published_at>
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        <user>
          <id>115104</id>
          <name>cmm3</name>
        </user>
      </post>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>3572570</id>
      <content>Here's a thread that might give you some ideas:

http://www.chowhound.com/topics/334678

Personally, I can't find a really good bagel in the Boston area. I don't mind Kupel's in Brookline and used to like Zeppy's (before they closed the Randolph shop), but lately, the only place I've gotten a decent bagel is at Expresso Royale/Bagel Rising on Newbury Street.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Apr 08 05:45:42 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3572360</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>14771</id>
        <name>hiddenboston</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>3577836</id>
      <content>it's too bad they don't have "i love bagels" on the east coast.
that was my favorite bagel place in california.
great breakfast sandwiches....</content>
      <published_at>Wed Apr 09 12:41:12 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3572570</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>181893</id>
        <name>daylight</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>3697954</id>
      <content>There is a "i love bagels" on the east coast.  It's in NY on long island.  I love that place.  They might have other ones in other states on the east coast too.   I know that "i love bagels" in NY is way better then the one in cali.  NY bagels, and pizza is that best.  no other state compares with it. </content>
      <published_at>Sun May 18 06:04:49 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3577836</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>193192</id>
        <name>absurdny</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>3572741</id>
      <content>Rosenfeld's in Newton Center is the best in the area by far.......</content>
      <published_at>Tue Apr 08 06:59:57 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3572360</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>11301</id>
        <name>Science Chick</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>3573471</id>
      <content>Second that.  Rosenfelds is awesome.    Not a clone of Ess-a-bagel (which is also great) but IMO they are hands down the best in the Boston Area.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Apr 08 10:19:37 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3572741</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>152667</id>
        <name>Ralphie_in_Boston</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>3577500</id>
      <content>I third! The best sunflower bagels in the biz.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Apr 09 11:24:35 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3573471</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>146261</id>
        <name>saltyair</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>3615411</id>
      <content>I would have to agree 100% with Science Chick. Growing up in NJ, I can say it's the real deal.</content>
      <published_at>Mon Apr 21 11:54:15 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3572741</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>185317</id>
        <name>Kazy Ctn</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>3572759</id>
      <content>Iggy's makes really nice seeded bagels. Not New York style, but very good nonetheless.
</content>
      <published_at>Tue Apr 08 07:04:01 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3572360</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>78269</id>
        <name>FoonFan</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>3576539</id>
      <content>Supposedly, Iggy's are more Montreal in style.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Apr 09 07:54:45 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3572759</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>13819</id>
        <name>Karl S</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>3573499</id>
      <content>I'm a big fan of Ess-a-Bagel as well, and the closest I've found here is Cafe Fresh Bagel in Needham or Dedham.  Pretty close to the best NY ones, at about 1/2 the price.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Apr 08 10:24:51 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3572360</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>64696</id>
        <name>winedude</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>3574745</id>
      <content>Bagels at Rosenfelds are tasty but too small and they're too cheap to give you a baker's dozen.  Cafe Bagel in Needham and Dedham, and Bagel's Best in Needham are both good. Best chain is Finagle a Bagel. Zeppy's is overrated.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Apr 08 15:36:20 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3572360</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>63181</id>
        <name>ShelT54</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>3574764</id>
      <content>Rosenfeld's bagels aren't too small; everybody else's are too big. A classic NY bagel is half the size of the monstrosities purveyed these days. Of course, even in NY, it's hard to find a classic NY bagel any more.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Apr 08 15:42:07 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3574745</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>51989</id>
        <name>bartleby</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>3576537</id>
      <content>Small bagels are GOOD bagels. They are a sign of the use of malt instead of sugar to feed the yeast, creating the classic dense crumb.

Finagle a Bagel are not bagels - they are bread doughnuts. Brueggers more classic flavors (like plain, pumpernickel, poppy) are the best of the local chains - Bruegger's uses malt for those, IIRC. Just avoid the sweet or novelty flavors. 

</content>
      <published_at>Wed Apr 09 07:53:43 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3574745</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>13819</id>
        <name>Karl S</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>3580102</id>
      <content>Finagle uses a mix of malt and sugar in their bagels.  I tried one of their chunky vegetable bagels the other day and really enjoyed it (but I'm not bagel purist).

Brueggers makes a really great rosemary and olive oil bagel.  Yum!</content>
      <published_at>Thu Apr 10 06:11:01 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3576537</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>13574</id>
        <name>pamalamb</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>3580643</id>
      <content>Finagle bagels are way too airy and soft for me to consider them bagel-worthy.  

A really good bagel is smallish, a sturdy boiled crust with the shine from an alkaline wash, and so dense that it requires work to chew it, and should go stale relatively quickly (not quite as fast as a proper hard roll goes stale, but within a day). </content>
      <published_at>Thu Apr 10 08:34:59 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3580102</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>13819</id>
        <name>Karl S</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>3575183</id>
      <content>In Salem &amp; Danvers there is Bagelworld </content>
      <published_at>Tue Apr 08 17:47:41 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3572360</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>13798</id>
        <name>ipsofatso</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>3576538</id>
      <content>And Reading. Those can be good, if a bit too large.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Apr 09 07:54:27 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3575183</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>13819</id>
        <name>Karl S</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>3575281</id>
      <content>When I lived in Cambridge, Formaggio Kitchen sold H&amp;H Bagels every day until they ran out. They may still.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Apr 08 18:21:31 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3572360</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>102066</id>
        <name>almansa</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>3577760</id>
      <content>Katz's in Chelsea makes the best alongside Rosenfeld's in Newton. Katz's bagels are 4 ounces, which is the standard NYC size. Most bagels these days are bigger and more like bread. 

</content>
      <published_at>Wed Apr 09 12:26:41 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3572360</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>71350</id>
        <name>lergnom</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>3577913</id>
      <content>Katz and Rosenfeld are my two go to places for bagels.  I like Rosenfeld's I don't get to Newton that often.  Love the Katz pizza bagels too.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Apr 09 12:52:51 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3577760</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>11222</id>
        <name>Infomaniac</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>3581146</id>
      <content>Rosenfelds.  Period.</content>
      <published_at>Thu Apr 10 10:17:36 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3572360</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>165701</id>
        <name>supergirl1964</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>3589830</id>
      <content>I'll second everyone who has mentioned Rosenfeld's.  I never thought they're small, nor do I agree with the other complaints.

They'll be closed from April 18-30 for Passover BTW.</content>
      <published_at>Sun Apr 13 11:20:17 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3581146</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>18264</id>
        <name>steinpilz</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>3581346</id>
      <content>Diamond Bakery in Newton (4 Corners) and Rosenfelds in Newton Ctr.</content>
      <published_at>Thu Apr 10 11:03:08 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3572360</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>180338</id>
        <name>hoolese</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>3581771</id>
      <content>I thought Diamond was gone? I know they changed hands recently and previous reports were not positive.   Here's the thread...
http://www.chowhound.com/topics/466748
</content>
      <published_at>Thu Apr 10 12:38:25 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3581346</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>11301</id>
        <name>Science Chick</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>3581776</id>
      <content>Yeah, Diamond is/was not very good.    Especially with Rosenfeld's just up Beacon Street from there.</content>
      <published_at>Thu Apr 10 12:40:19 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3581771</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>152667</id>
        <name>Ralphie_in_Boston</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>3589274</id>
      <content>in all fairness to the idea that rosenfelds is too cheap to give you a bakers dozen, if you get one of their frequent buyers cards, after you buy twelve dozen you get a dozen for free. a better deal overall when you end up with a free dozen rosenfelds bagels!</content>
      <published_at>Sun Apr 13 07:42:17 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3572360</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>72635</id>
        <name>hyde</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>3592031</id>
      <content>And they advertise in those "envelopes full of coupons" (ValuPak?) that show up in the mail - at least in some areas. They offer coupons for 8 bagels for the price of 6, and 18 bagels for the price of 12.</content>
      <published_at>Mon Apr 14 07:12:59 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3589274</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>112680</id>
        <name>overproofed</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>3589431</id>
      <content>Picked up my bakers dozen of bagels ($6.50) from Katz in Chelsea today.  There was a line of people waiting to buy bagels.  Katz also sells hot dog bagels made with Vienna Beef hot dogs.  They have a big neon Vienna Beef sign in their window.  Their hot dog bagels are delicious.  </content>
      <published_at>Sun Apr 13 08:44:38 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3572360</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>50594</id>
        <name>buffet king</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>3589437</id>
      <content>Katz also had hot out of the oven pizza bagels today.  </content>
      <published_at>Sun Apr 13 08:45:56 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3589431</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>50594</id>
        <name>buffet king</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>3590054</id>
      <content>That sign is new. They also painted last summer. </content>
      <published_at>Sun Apr 13 12:51:13 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3589431</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>71350</id>
        <name>lergnom</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>3701838</id>
      <content>i second (or third) iggys.  really really good bagels.  not NY-style, but chewey with a nice crust (or whatever the outside of a bagel is called) and yummy.</content>
      <published_at>Mon May 19 12:04:04 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3572360</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>80945</id>
        <name>baconodka</name>
      </user>
    </post>
  </posts>
</topic>
