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COOKBOOK OF MONTH OF MAY VOTING

oakjoan Apr 7, 2008 09:13 PM

I'm posting this early in April to allow time for voting on the MAY COTM and reserving at library/purchasing by mail, etc.before this month is up.

Although we had a great discussion about suggested April cookbooks, the voting went in an entirely different direction in the run-off. That's fine, but many fewer people voted, and the winning COTM garnered fewer than 15 votes. Several of the earlier popular books in the discussion thread got very few votes. This may well have been due to the lack of
time in which to vote.

I, and I'm sure you all, love reading the suggestions, pans and raves about the COTM candidates. However, when folks start veering away from the subject at hand (easy enough when one message makes one think of something about another subject) it makes it difficult for me to wade through and pick out the finalists. In other words, some veering
is okay, just not waaay off topic and followed by 15 responses.

As usual, PLEASE PUT ALL VOTES IN CAPS. non-caps will not be counted.

If you want to see the discussions of suggested books from the APRIL COTM voting and the run-off discussion, they are in the general Home Cooking thread and you can search for them "cookbook of the month April".

One more thing that you may want to consider is the availability
and/or expense of a cookbook. Putting forth a book that is not widely
available, has few online recipes and costs $50, will certainly lessen
the number of participants. This is just a suggestion.

So? What are you waiting for?

VOTING 1ST ROUND: Last day Saturday (April 12)

VOTING ON RUN-OFF: Sunday April 13 to Saturday, April 19th

I'd like to have the final book chosen by no later than Sunday, April 20th, which will give you six days to vote for the winner.

Let the games begin!
Any questions? Please post them or email me at oakjoan@gmail.com.

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    jsaimd RE: oakjoan Apr 7, 2008 09:57 PM

    Indian cooking please. MADHUR JAFFREY or JULIE SAHNI.

    1. soypower RE: oakjoan Apr 7, 2008 10:12 PM

      i've been obsessed with appetizers lately, so AMUSE BOUCHE by Rick Tramonto.

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        soypower RE: soypower Apr 10, 2008 06:19 AM

        After further consideration and research, I'd like to change my vote to FLEXITARIAN TABLE...

      2. The Dairy Queen RE: oakjoan Apr 8, 2008 06:45 AM

        FLEXITARIAN TABLE BY PETER BERLEY, please. :)

        (I am open to Berley's other books, too, except that I don't get the impression that they are widely available anymore...)

        Thank you, as always, oakjoan. I appreciate your outstanding efforts to be responsive to the community; for instance, accelerating the voting cycle so we can secure copies of the books earlier...

        EDIT: Or, since it's May, the month of Cinco de Mayo, a Mexican cookbook, perhaps by DIANA KENNEDY (since Bayless has had his moment in the COTM spotlight)

        ~TDQ

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          vmorgan RE: The Dairy Queen Apr 11, 2008 02:33 PM

          I would really like a Mexican book, though I don't know what that would actually be.

        2. Candy RE: oakjoan Apr 8, 2008 07:30 AM

          I'd like to suggest a book that has not been suggested before, nor has the cuisine(s). CRADLE OF FLAVOR by James Osland. It has been out about a year. It covers the cooking of Indonesia, Malaysia, and Singapore. A good friend who is Indonesian by birth and her Dutch, by birth husband, (both are now naturalized US citizens) have vetted this book for me and say the recipes are very authentic and so far what I have made from this book has been very good.

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            JoanN RE: Candy Apr 8, 2008 07:54 AM

            Actually, it was one of nychowcook's suggestions for March. Sounds interesting. I'll go check it out. Although since we just did an Asian book with many unusual ingredients, I might prefer to come back to it in another month or two.

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              Candy RE: JoanN Apr 8, 2008 09:06 AM

              actually many of the ingredients are not too different, just used in a different way. It is nice warm weather food. I am trying the Nonya Shrimp Curry with Pineapple and Tomatoes. The only iffy ingredient are the candlenuts but I can use macadamias in place of them if I have to but I think I know where to get them. In Bloomington, in the heart of Indiana we have a very diverse ethnic population and stores who cater to all. He is good at making suggestions for substitutes if an ingredient may not be readily available.

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                Chimayo Joe RE: JoanN Apr 11, 2008 05:20 PM

                I also recommended it back in January 2007. May have been too new then because it didn't generate any interest.

                There's a very long thread with lots of photos on egullet about that cookbook. People decided to make every recipe in the book.

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                  mirage RE: Chimayo Joe Apr 12, 2008 04:12 AM

                  I have made a few things from Cradle of Flavor - everything has been wonderful - better than good. There are, however, ingredients that can be difficult to find. I wound up having to order some on-line.

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                    jen kalb RE: mirage Apr 12, 2008 10:27 AM

                    I would participate in a COTH on CRADLE OF FLAVOR> ID rather do it in summer, though, wihen tropical food feels more appropriate and the special herbs, especially the asian basils, are actually available. I had a great time cooking these dishes last summer when I could have lemon and thai basils out of my garden.

                    I also recommend finding a source of kaffir lime leaves for this cooking - Ive had dwarf tree from Four Winds Growers (see link below) for 4-5 years now, and its just wonderful to be able to go and cut the fresh leaves I need.

                    http://www.fourwindsgrowers.com/lore/...

                    The tree summers outside and winters in thehouse, and puts on crops of new leaves in both environments (no blooming and fruiting so far, however)

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                      mirage RE: jen kalb Apr 16, 2008 01:06 PM

                      I have just received my dwarf tree - I'm afraid of stripping the poor thing of its leaves - how quickly do they re-grow? Please email me as this is probably too off-topic.

                      We are making Javanese Grilled Chicken, for the third time, for a get-together on Friday. For dessert, the Coconut Cake from Pure Desserts - sounded like a match to me!

                2. re: JoanN
                  JoanN RE: JoanN Apr 25, 2008 06:54 AM

                  I just spent a few days at my mother’s house in New Jersey. There’s a HUGE Asian market not far from her on Route 27 in Edison. I’d been there often before, but mostly wandered the aisles in a bit of a daze. This time, since I had recently taken “Cradle of Flavor” out from the library and still had a few ingredients for the Dunlop books that I’d had difficulty finding in NYC’s Chinatown, I was armed with a list of ingredients from all three books. I came home with dried shrimp paste, palm sugar, tamarind pulp, frozen turmeric and galangal, candlenuts, frozen daun pandan, pickled chiles, preserved mustard tuber, yellow rock sugar, and a few other things. I was so excited I could barely stand it. My mother just laughed at me. She thinks I’m a little nuts, and she’s probably right. “Cradle of Flavor” will definitely be on my please, please list of COTM suggestions sometime soon.

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                    The Dairy Queen RE: JoanN Apr 25, 2008 07:01 AM

                    I'd be up for Cradle of Flavor for June!

                    ~TDQ

                3. re: Candy
                  oakjoan RE: Candy Apr 8, 2008 04:24 PM

                  In response to Candy, above, we did do Hot, Sour, Salty, Sweet last year. That book covers the cuisines of Southeast Asia. For reference to prior COTM's, I just posted a list, prepared, I think, by Joan N a while ago...it's somewhere a few messages below this one.

                4. DanaB RE: oakjoan Apr 8, 2008 01:07 PM

                  I am going to re-nominate WASHOKU: RECIPES FROM THE JAPANESE HOME KITCHEN by Elizabeth Andoh, which I think was considered back in January or February. Given how much fun we all had with Chinese last month, I think another ethnic cuisine would be great. For that reason, I'll also vote for MADHUR JAFFREY (maybe Quick And Easy Indian Cooking?) and DIANA KENNEDY.

                  1. Rubee RE: oakjoan Apr 8, 2008 03:09 PM

                    Italian - Batali's "BABBO" and "MOLTO ITALIANO"

                    Spanish - a book by Penelope Casas, perhaps "FOOD AND WINE OF SPAIN" and/or "TAPAS"

                    Sardinian - "SWEET MYRTLE AND BITTER HONEY"

                    Mediterranean - Anna Sortun's "SPICE"

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                      emily RE: Rubee Apr 9, 2008 04:14 PM

                      Ooooh... I love SPICE. Lots of interesting recipes in there to try.

                      CRESCENT CITY COOKING: UNFORGETTABLE RECIPES FROM SUSAN SPICER'S NEW ORLEANS -- whoops, I just saw that was in the final running for Feb.; I'm still interested though.

                      And CRADLE OF FLAVOR, but I could see doing that another month, as suggested.

                    2. oakjoan RE: oakjoan Apr 8, 2008 04:17 PM

                      HERE'S THE LIST OF PRIOR COTMs so that we don't suggest something that has already been done. I think JoanN prepared this list.

                      **2006**
                      Sept - Marcella Hazan, Essentials of Classic Italian Cooking
                      http://www.chowhound.com/topics/325712

                      Oct - Molly Stevens, All About Braising
                      http://www.chowhound.com/topics/330177

                      Nov - Rick Bayless, One Plate at a Time
                      http://www.chowhound.com/topics/339027

                      Dec - Dorie Greenspan, Baking from My Home to Yours
                      http://www.chowhound.com/topics/347476

                      **2007**

                      Jan - Judy Rodgers, Zuni Cafe Cookbook
                      http://www.chowhound.com/topics/355995

                      Feb - Jeffrey Alford & Naomi Duguid, Hot Sour Salty Sweet
                      http://www.chowhound.com/topics/366679

                      March - Leite's Culinaria
                      http://www.chowhound.com/topics/376081

                      April - Claudia Roden, Arabesque
                      http://www.chowhound.com/topics/387069

                      May - Suzanne Goin, Sunday Suppers at Lucques
                      http://www.chowhound.com/topics/397079

                      June - Edna Lewis, Country Cooking
                      http://www.chowhound.com/topics/406983

                      July - Nigella Lawson, Forever Summer
                      http://www.chowhound.com/topics/416938

                      August - Chris Schlesinger & John Willoughby
                      http://www.chowhound.com/topics/427007

                      Sept – Patricia Wells, Vegetable Harvest
                      http://www.chowhound.com/topics/437177

                      Oct – Julia Child
                      http://www.chowhound.com/topics/446374

                      Nov – Julee Rosso & Sheila Lukins, The Silver Palate Cookbook
                      http://www.chowhound.com/topics/456241

                      Dec. – Martha Stewart’s Baking Handbook AND Martha Stewart’s Hors d’Oeuvres Handbook
                      http://www.chowhound.com/topics/465358

                      **2008**

                      Jan – Paula Wolfert, The Slow Mediterranean Kitchen
                      http://www.chowhound.com/topics/474978

                      Feb – Frank Stitt’s Southern Table
                      http://www.chowhound.com/topics/485291

                      Mar - Fuchsia Dunlop, Revolutionary Cinese Cookbook and Land of Plenty
                      http://www.chowhound.com/topics/494660

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                      1. re: oakjoan
                        poptart RE: oakjoan Apr 9, 2008 07:04 PM

                        FLEXITARIAN TABLE or JAMIE OLIVER sounds good to me!

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                        Kagey RE: oakjoan Apr 9, 2008 02:34 AM

                        Last time, I thought a lot of people voted for JAMIE OLIVER. Whatever happened with that? I'd go with him. Or MADHUR JAFFREY.

                        1. LulusMom RE: oakjoan Apr 9, 2008 05:45 AM

                          I'll go ahead and vote for FLEXITARIAN TABLE again, although it seems like that isn't lighting everyone's fire. Also, looking through my cookbooks, I thought maybe I'd throw out these ideas:
                          JEAN-GEORGES or
                          ITALIAN EASY/ITALIAN TWO EASY (the River Cafe cookbooks).

                          1. greedygirl RE: oakjoan Apr 9, 2008 06:21 AM

                            I'm up for TAPAS and also the RIVER CAFE EASY books. I've been enjoying Jamie Oliver's new TV series, and so will also nominate JAMIE AT HOME, which is supposed to be his best book so far.

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                              NYCkaren RE: greedygirl Apr 9, 2008 06:57 AM

                              I'm with Kagey. I'd vote for JAMIE AT HOME.

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                                LulusMom RE: NYCkaren Apr 9, 2008 08:42 AM

                                I could definitely get behind JAMIE AT HOME - I bought it in an on-line moment of retail therapy, but haven't had a chance to look at it yet.

                            2. rabaja RE: oakjoan Apr 9, 2008 08:59 AM

                              MY BOMBAY KITCHEN by Niloufer King

                              a girl can hope!

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                                jsaimd RE: rabaja Apr 9, 2008 09:05 AM

                                I would support any Indian cookbook if I can get my hands on it.

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                                  pikawicca RE: rabaja Apr 9, 2008 12:27 PM

                                  I will enthusiastically second MY BOMBAY KITCHEN!

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                                    rabaja RE: pikawicca Apr 9, 2008 03:24 PM

                                    WoooooooooHoooooooooooooo!
                                    Can we get a third???

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                                      Chimayo Joe RE: rabaja Apr 11, 2008 05:24 PM

                                      I'll third MY BOMBAY KITCHEN.

                                2. Megiac RE: oakjoan Apr 9, 2008 03:39 PM

                                  In honor of Cinco de Mayo, I'd like to see ESSENTIAL CUISINES OF MEXICO by DIANA KENNEDY. Everything I've made from this book has been great, but I've only scratched the surface of it.

                                  1. pitu RE: oakjoan Apr 10, 2008 05:01 AM

                                    BATALI - the website, BABBO and MOLTO ITALIANO

                                    DIANA KENNEDY, the compeat oeuvre (heh) since there's quite a bit of overlap in the compilations and some of us have two or three of her books.

                                    Thx for putting up a schedule, and leaving a week for voting. : )

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                                      DGresh RE: oakjoan Apr 10, 2008 06:17 AM

                                      I really like SPICES OF LIFE: SIMPLE AND DELICIOUS RECIPES FOR GREAT HEALTH by Nina Simonds

                                      It is "healthy" food, but not "health" food if you know what I mean. I think the recipes are really terrific.

                                      1. oakjoan RE: oakjoan Apr 10, 2008 11:55 AM

                                        IMPORTANT VOTING MESSAGE

                                        THIS THREAD WILL STAY UP FOR THREE (3) MORE DAYS (until SATURDAY, APRIL 12) and then I'll compile the books with the most votes and put up the run-off thread on Sunday. It will run until the next Saturday (4/19)

                                        READ THIS MESSAGE!!!!!!! THIS MEANS YOU!

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                                          MMRuth RE: oakjoan Apr 10, 2008 11:58 AM

                                          Thanks oakjoan. Since my favorite got chosen this month, I'm going to bow out of suggesting things for May - not that it matters!!

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                                            NYchowcook RE: MMRuth Apr 10, 2008 03:04 PM

                                            Ruth, you should vote! Your suggestion(s) are always great! And you're a dynamo contributor too.

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                                              MMRuth RE: NYchowcook Apr 10, 2008 03:37 PM

                                              Thanks - I just meant that wasn't going to throw any more books into the mix this time - but I'll vote!

                                        2. NYchowcook RE: oakjoan Apr 10, 2008 03:18 PM

                                          I have a few suggestions:

                                          TAPAS by Penelope Casas. We haven't done Spanish yet, which is soon to be the new french, IMHO, if it's not already! She's the doyenne of Spanish cookbooks it seems, and she updated her older book

                                          CRESCENT CITY COOKING by Susan Spicer. We haven't done Nawlins. This one looks good (a la Goin, Lucques)

                                          SWEET MYRTLE & BITTER HONEY -- Sardinian! Now that's different!

                                          INTO THE VIETNAMESE KITCHEN by Nguyen

                                          CRADLE OF FLAVOR by James Oseland -- Indonesian, etc.

                                          FLEXITARIAN TABLE by Peter Berley, or perhaps one of his earlier books such as MODERN VEGETARIAN KITCHEN

                                          MADHUR JAFFREY should be COTM sometime soon.

                                          We've done Mexican so as much as I'm an admirer of Diana Kennedy (particularly over Bayless) I think we should hold off on that. Ditto for Mario when we've done Marcella. Ditto also for Jamie Oliver since we picked his compatriot Hopkinson this month.

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                                            mutterer RE: oakjoan Apr 10, 2008 09:34 PM

                                            LORNA SASS'S “WHOLE GRAINS: EVERY DAY EVERY WAY”

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                                              NYchowcook RE: mutterer Apr 11, 2008 03:35 PM

                                              I would endorse WHOLE GRAINS by Lorna Sass. I own it and got into barley in a big way 'cause of this book, and would love to be inspired to delve more into the book.

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                                              mutterer RE: oakjoan Apr 10, 2008 09:35 PM

                                              Just remembered my other: MADHUR JAFFREY WORLD VEGETARIAN

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                                                Kagey RE: mutterer Apr 12, 2008 12:59 AM

                                                I'd second Madhur Jaffrey WORLD VEGETARIAN. I've been using that a lot for the past few months!

                                              2. The Dairy Queen RE: oakjoan Apr 11, 2008 04:06 PM

                                                It seems we have a vote from vmorgan for DIANA KENNEDY in this thread here: http://www.chowhound.com/topics/32571...

                                                I think vmorgan got confused as to which thread was the voting thread...

                                                ~TDQ

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                                                  vmorgan RE: The Dairy Queen Apr 11, 2008 07:02 PM

                                                  Yes, thank you, that is correct. Diana Kennedy.

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                                                    oakjoan RE: vmorgan Apr 12, 2008 02:18 PM

                                                    COMPADRES, WE'RE COMING DOWN TO THE WIRE HERE.

                                                    I'll be posting the runoff voting thread at a little after midnight Sunday morning (PDT). Voting will end next Saturday, April 19th.

                                                    I'll include a short description of how I compiled the votes, since some voted for "an Indian cookbook" or "any Indian", etc. I counted them all in one lump and included the named authors, such as Jaffrey, Sahni, etc.,as well). Please be more specific this time with your choices and try to list a specific book and author. Otherwise, I'll clump the "any Indian cookbook" votes with the author who gets the most votes. Is this anywhere near clear?

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                                                      pikawicca RE: oakjoan Apr 12, 2008 05:12 PM

                                                      What do you do with folks who voted for multiple books? I don't think that this should be allowed.

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                                                        JoanN RE: pikawicca Apr 12, 2008 05:20 PM

                                                        This is really more of a suggestion thread than a voting thread. In the past, multiple suggestions have always been welcome. But even in the final voting thread, the book with the most votes wins. I don't see it as a problem if someone makes it known that there are two books out of three they'd be equally happy to cook from.

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                                                          pitu RE: JoanN Apr 12, 2008 06:35 PM

                                                          I'll agree with JoanN - *this* is a nomination thread
                                                          but, going into the real vote, I like the idea of multiple enthusiasms
                                                          I don't think it gives us a statistical problem or anything...

                                                        2. re: pikawicca
                                                          oakjoan RE: pikawicca Apr 12, 2008 08:43 PM

                                                          Pikawicca: Multiple voting is allowed on this first thread. In the runoff, only one vote is allowed.

                                                          Of course, if it got to the point that people were voting for 6 or 7 books in each post, we'd have to do something about it. Rarely do we have that. It's generally 2 or 3 books.

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                                                    Chimayo Joe RE: oakjoan Apr 12, 2008 04:03 PM

                                                    I'll toss one more in. CURRY CUISINE by David Thompson, Das Sreedharan, Sri Owen, et al. This is a collection of recipes by some big names in their areas of expertise. Thought it might appeal to people who are hesitant to buy a cookbook on a specific ethnic cuisine.

                                                    http://search.barnesandnoble.com/Curr...

                                                    edit: Here's some info from an earlier chowhound post of mine that gives a little more detail about the contents of the book. Amazon is cheaper than Barnes & Noble if anyone is interested in the cookbook.

                                                    Cookbook-- "Curry Cuisine"

                                                    Just thought I'd mention this cookbook. The release date is supposedly Oct. 16, but Barnes & Noble had it on the shelves yesterday. It's one of those generic looking and titled books that I usually glance at the spine and don't bother taking from the shelf to give a throrough examination. Glad I did bother this time because it fill some gaps in my cookbook collection--not so much gaps in cuisines but some missing authors. From time to time I find myself thinking I ought to have a book by Sri Owen or Corinne Trang or that massive Thai food tome by David Thompson in my collection. This book has those three authors, among others.

                                                    North India(divided into sections on Rajasthan, Delhi & Punjab, Lucknow & Awadh, and Bengal authored by Vivek Singh), South India(Das Sreedharan), and Thailand(David Thompson) get the most coverage. Pakistan(usually lumped in with North India) gets a section of its own by a different author(Mahmood Akbar.) Myanmar, Malaysia, Singapore, Indonesia, and the Philippines are covered by Sri Owen(with only a few recipes from each country though--wish Sri Owen's section was a little bigger.) Cambodia, Laos, and Vietnam are covered by Corinne Trang(again, I wish Trang's section had a few more recipes.) There's also a section called Outposts with some coverage of a few more regions: Africa(Roopa Gulati), Caribbean(Judy Bastyra), Britain(Roopa Gulati), and Japan(Yasuko Fukuoka.

                                                    )

                                                    Hadn't heard of some of the people, but their bona fides appear pretty decent. Seem to be a lot of London based authors involved. The recipes look pretty good--how good, I don't know because I haven't cooked from the book, yet. Most of the recipes look relatively easy. Layout of the book is good--most recipes are single page, and when a recipe is two pages they're adjacent to avoid having to flip pages. The book does a pretty good job of saying specifically where a recipe is from(Kerala or Hyderabad, for example, rather than just leaving it at "South India"), always a plus. Hardcover, another plus. Lots of color photos(about half the recipes have photos.) About 150 recipes total, so there isn't extensive coverage of the regions, but the book appears to be a very good sampler. Looking forward to trying it out.

                                                    http://www.amazon.com/Curry-Cuisine-C...
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