OC and LA cheap eats - MUSTS?
Hey all. I"ll be in LA and Newport Beach for 10 days. I need to find cheap eats MUST places...Preferably in Newport. Anything from burritos, taco trucks, to cool bakeries, ethnic foods, donuts, junk food...Anything I cant get on the East Coast. No Korean, Chinese, or Japanese, please.
And any good food markets/grocers to wander?
Tony's on the nose. It's hard to find a better point in the good food/different/price matrix than Little Saigon's eateries. It's Orange County's equivalent (for Vietnamese) of LA County's San Gabriel Valley (for Chinese). For more info on Vietnamese, you can also look up Das Ubergeek's postings. He's one of the most serious hounds whose words are gold, and is based in the OC.
Unfortunately -- sacrilege!! -- I really spend almost no time in Newport and Costa Mesa. If the OP would be willing to come inland a bit, I can absolutely provide some "musts", beginning with Little Saigon, where you could eat in a different restaurant three times a day for two months and never pay more than $15 each.
To the OP -- I don't really know where on the East Coast you're coming from or what they might have there, nor what "cheap eats" to you means. I'll put a note next to any of the places that have meals (meaning an entree and a non-alcoholic drink) above $10.
First, your question about markets: the very best farmer's market in Orange County is the Saturday morning market at Campus Drive and Bridge St. in Irvine, across from UCI (that's the University of California, Irvine). It is open from 8 AM to noon. If you come in April, the Peet's Coffee in the adjacent plaza (next to Trader Joe's) is giving out free drip coffee for the next few Saturdays to celebrate their opening. A great breakfast is coffee from Peet's (or Vietnamese iced coffee from Le Diplomate in the same plaza), and then a sweet pastry from Blackmarket Bakery in the farmer's market. Currently we've got the last of the citrus, a boat load of insanely good strawberries from Carlsbad (San Diego County), cherimoyas, Asian pears, dates... I assume you don't care about vegetables since you probably won't have a cooking facility. In a few weeks we'll get the first loquats and maybe the very first figs, quickly followed by apricots.
Near the farmer's market is Wholesome Choice, which is a Persian market with a great Persian food counter (takeaway, but there are tables elsewhere), but beware of sometimes abrupt service. You can wander the market and just bask in the multi-ethnicity of it. If you want a taste treat, buy a jar of your favourite preserves and then buy sangak (this is an enormous Persian bread that is baked to order for you and costs something like $2.50 -- you order at the entrance to the store, more or less). Eat the preserves with the hot sangak.
In Little Saigon, then:
Pho Thanh Lich -- pho with rare filet mignon is $6.99. Get it on the side so you can swirl it to doneness in the hot soup.
Vien Dong -- two things to get here: bun cha Ha Noi, which is cool rice noodles and various herbs, and a bowl of grilled smoky pork and a pork meatball in a watery papaya-based sauce. You put what you want into an eating bowl and eat it. It's astounding. The other thing is cha ca thanh long, which is catfish grilled on a fajita platter with turmeric and dill, served the same way. The bun cha is $7, I think, and the fish is $14 but enough for two.
Slightly over your price limit is Pagolac, which has the traditional Vietnamese "bo bay mon", seven courses of beef, for $13.
Com Tam Thuan Kieu has com tam, which is "broken" rice, for between $5 and $8 depending on how many toppings you get. You can choose from pork chop (suon), shredded pork tossed with rice flour (bi), Chinese sausage (lap xuong), egg-and-pork cake (cha, by far the best), grilled beef (bo nuong), grilled pork (thit nuong), tofu stuffed with shrimp paste (dau hu ky) or chicken (ga). Four toppings will be in the $6 range; seven toppings, which is a ridiculous mountain of food, is $8.
By far the cheapest great eats in Little Saigon are Vietnamese sandwiches, called banh mi. These are rolls or baguettes with garlic mayonnaise, your choice of filling, cilantro, chili peppers, pickled carrots and daikon radish, and Maggi seasoning. Fillings range from grilled beef (banh mi bo nuong) to meatballs (banh mi xiu mai) to banh mi with curried chicken (banh mi ca ri ga) to the house special, which is more or less the same everywhere and contains various kinds of charcuterie (Viet ham, for example, and pate). They're typically $2 for a 10-inch sandwich. Banh Mi Che Cali, which has several locations, has a deal where the sandwiches are $2.25 each but if you buy two you get a third free (for the kind on rolls only, not on the baguettes). These places are EVERYWHERE and it's hard to go wrong, except don't go to Lee's because it's more expensive and not as good. These places are usually take-out only. If you go to the Banh Mi Che Cali in the plaza at the SW corner of Bolsa and Magnolia, you can wander down the plaza and go to a Vietnamese flower and produce store where you can buy cheap pitahayas (dragon fruits). Also, at BMCC you can buy che, which is a Vietnamese dessert involving various sweets floating in coconut milk. There are several kinds, you just point and shoot, and the cost is $1.50 each, but buy 2 and get 1 free (this is marked as "mua 2 tang 1").
It is not, however, all about Vietnamese food, though I love Vietnamese food. You can get good fresh Mexican food at Taco Mesa in Costa Mesa. Its sister restaurant in Newport, Taco Rosa, has a $15 Sunday brunch buffet that's incredible for the price.
Let me know if you want things a bit more inland, or search for my posts and you can see reviews I've written.
Yup, hit the Mexican taquerias on Costa Mesa's west side. Here's a few of my longstanding favorites:
El Toro Bravo Tortilleria (19th Street), this is a place I've touted many times
Pupuseria San Sivar (Harbor Blvd north of 19th Street)
Grilled fish tacos Taqueria El Granjenal (19th Street at Monrovia)
Sorry I don't have Newport recs, but...
If you happen to be in West LA/Santa Monica area, try Monte Alban for Oaxacan. For tacos, try Tacos Por Favor or Tacomiendo. Also, Bay Cities for sandwiches. If you happen to be in SM for happy hour time, try Warszawa for Polish happy hour.
In Venice, 3 Square isn't too expensive, and has great bakery items.
In West LA, try an almond or chocolate croissant at Amandine. Or a buttermilk bar at Primo's.
No one has really given you Newport Beach locations, so I will get the ball rolling, Laventina's Big Cheese Pizza, cheap eats, and open very late on the weekend . . . I sort of think that s/he does not want Vietnamese food recommendations. There are plenty of other cheap places especially by the beach, there is a really cool bakery called Pain Du Monde that has great sandwiches also, and croissants, etceteras . . . Chronic Tacos is burritos and tacos that is fairly cheap, 2 fat tacos for less than $3. Wahoo's Fish Tacos are fairly cheap also and very popular. I am not a donut eater so I do not really even notice them . . . no one has really gone into the great places in LA, but check out King Taco, cheap and excellent food--tacos and burritos, and others . . . there is a great ethnic market in downtown LA I just forgot what it's called, the Farmer's Market on 3rd and Fairfax in LA is also pretty good . . . I am tired of writing so that's all you get, until someone else adds or I decide to add some more, heh . . .
I recently had an al carbon torta at Chronic Tacos in San Clemente and was very much impressed. I usually have tortas at El Molino de Oro in San Juan Capistrano (a non-chain, authentic local place), but found Chronic to be just as good if not a little better. Chronic looks like my new 'go to' place for a while.
Newport Landing Restaurant has cheap happy hour specials (take the ferry from Balboa Island). See the bottom of the oyster bar menu.
In the college days there was Charlie's Chili.
There are also those classic frozen banana places.
I don't know if they qualify as chowish but they are in Newport Beach
Newport Landing Restaurant
503 E Edgewater Ave, Newport Beach, CA 92661
102 McFadden Pl, Newport Beach, CA 92663
I think it is worth the $2 for a terrific experience and nice view of the Harbor, but you can drive a few miles down PCH and enter the Balboa Peninsula that way.
The OP was looking for eats that he can't get on the East Coast. I think an East coaster is used to much better oyster bars than Newport Landing.
If I had to come up with cheap good Mexican in Newport I would have to say Chronic Cantina on PCH and Balbo. It is mostly a take out. The food is flavorful and fresh. I love the Al Pastor and usually have it in a burrito. I go there often because it is walking distance from my house, but if I am craving a great taco I drive to 19th St in Costa Mesa.
I posted the menu for the Newport Landing upstairs bar (which they call the Oyster Bar), because it lists the happy hour specials. I've never actually had any oysters at Newport Landing, nor did I suggest them.
I included it because it's cheap and it's in Newport Beach and not much had been posted for NB. They have $1 Tacos on Tuesday, btw.
Have they raised the ferry price? Last summer it was 60 cents each way, I think.
$1 tacos are Thursday At Newport Landing. $1 tacos at Great Mex next to Theater on Tuesdays. ( food there in general is very good at any time ) Also what about TK burgers near to Newport Pier.
A hot Ham And Cheese Croissant from Seaside Donuts is also a tasty treat.
Harborside has great deals ( Wednesday buy 2 drinks get dinner for a dime etc ) Also a great happy hour deal on the bar menu. Just avoid the Shorehouse.
And yes Laventinas everyone who lives here has that phone number in memory.
On the whole, I find Newport Beach to be overpriced compared to what you can get in any of the other cities nearby.
There are a lot of good, cheap Mexican places in both Costa Mesa and Santa Ana. There are many, but In Costa Mesa, I like Jugos Acapulcos. 745 W 19th St
Costa Mesa, CA 92627.
In Santa Ana, try El Gallo Giro for cheap, good eats (they also have a great Mexican bakery)
1422 S. Bristol St, Santa Ana
There are some lovely bakeries in Costa Mesa too. My favorites (so far) are French's Cupcake and Pastry bakeries, which both offer reasonable prices for great treats:
French's Cupcake Bakery
273 E. 17th St Costa Mesa 92627
French's Pastry Bakery
1170 W. Baker Street
Costa Mesa, CA
I also like Las Cotijas as its cheap, and tasty Mexican food. There are locations in Garden Grove and Tustin.
Agreed also regarding Vietnamese. If you like this, you really must try Little Saigon.
Thanx guys for all the recs! I was looking for places by Newport because I will be visiting friends there and I have no car and alone on the weekdays they go to work. I dont mind walking 20-30 km a day. In the evenings, I can venture out of the neighbourhood to LA and the rest of OC.
Everyone has mentioned Costa Mesa. Sounds great! How accessible is it from Newport? BTW...where do you get frozen bananas? Do they dip them in anything? :)
Newport Beach covers a lot of territory. There are distinct neighborhoods with differing levels of chow access to someone without a car. Balboa Peninsula / Lido Isle / Balboa Island / Corona del Mar / Eastbluff / Westcliff / Newport Coast / Crystal Cove are just a few. Do you know where you will be staying?
Costa Mesa is west and inland of Newport Beach. Depending on which major streets you can walk to, you may be able to use the bus system, which is relatively pathetic compared to other places where mass transit is more widely used.
The frozen bananas dipped in chocolate are a thing on Balboa Island. There's a couple of shops that specialize in it. It's in the middle of the harbor, at the southern end of Jamboree Road.
Contrary to popular belief, we do actually have public transport here. It's all bus in Orange County (with the exception of the Metrolink trains to Riverside, Oceanside and Los Angeles), but it's reasonably clean, fairly cheap ($1.25 per ride, and I believe a day pass is $3 but you can check online at octa.net) and just about every major road in OC has a bus. Buses under number 100 generally run at least 4 times an hour during the daytime. The 43 bus runs to Newport Avenue and cuts straight through the centre of Orange County, more or less, past Disneyland, along the east side of Little Saigon, into Costa Mesa. You can find out more at octa.net or Google Transit.
Costa Mesa is quite accessible from Newport Beach, but as the Professor said, if you'll give us a major intersection near where you are staying (for example, PCH and Jamboree, MacArthur and Bonita Canyon) we may be able to point you to things that are bus-able.
There are some good suggestions in here, particularly outside of Newport. You really might consider renting a car if it is in your budget.
I'll add a few, primarily in the Newport Area.
Gina's Pizza - Corona del Mar
Gallos Deli - Corona Del Mar
Gary's Deli - Corona del Mar
TK Burger - Costa Mesa and Newport Peninsula
Shorehouse Cafe - great brunch
I think Chronic Taco is very overrated and with so much good Mexican in nearby Costa Mesa its a waste.
Second on Keane coffee
I like Super Pollo in Costa Mesa
Carms Coney's - awesome NY style hotdogs
Mitsuwa Market in Costa Mesa
If you're going to be in LA, I'd hit the Hollywood Farmer Market and Santa Monica Farmers Market instead of the Irvine FM. Irvine is probably the best one in Orange County, and its like a bigger, better FM than other FMs. But, SM is a different level with stuff you just won't find at other FMs.
And, I second Mitsuwa Market in Costa Mesa. Its something straight out of Tokyo, and was even featured in Bourdain's No Reservations(it was the one in Edgewater, NJ but they're the same). And, then you could get the salt ramen in the food court which is probably one of the best ramen in the area.
Nobody has mentioned any of Newport's fine beachfront bars:
Mutt Lynches: Toursity, food is not bad, breakfast is fantastic...if you're up early enough.
Sharkey's: A little loud for me, I can't comment on the food, but their 64 ounce drinks are pretty cheap (and they come with light up floating sharks, or something).
Newport Beach Brewing Company: a couple blocks off the sand; there's a "happy hour" special every weeknight, which usually includes cheap food (like $6 pizzas on Wednesday).
The Greek Island Grille (www.thewholepita.com) in Costa Mesa. Family owned, extremely generous portions as absurdly inexpensive prices, fresh, and delicious. Tiny hole in the wall in Costa Mesa near South Coast Plaza. It must be my favorite restaurant because I go there at least twice a month if not more. Try the hummus and egglplant salad app. (melitzanosalata)
re: OC Mutt
Don't want to get off the topic, but I had read here that Greek Island had changed ownership and suffered from the change. Can you 'testify' that it is still as good as it used to be? We used to enjoy it but it's a destination for us so we've avoided it since hearing of the change.
Hey all! I've got an address for everyone. I'll be living close to Jamboree and San Jaoquin Hills. I'll take the Metrolink into Union Station for 2 days to see what around also. Anything good to eat around the square?
What bus should I take into Costa Mesa? In the evenings and weekends, I'll have a ride and can pretty much point where I wanna go within 50 miles.
BTW...I don't mind wandering and walking. I typically go for 20km strolls no problem.
Keep the suggestions coming (please, no more pho) as I have 27 meals at least I need to fill up there. ;)
If you take Metrolink you can transfer to connecting transit for free, so anyplace on the Red or Gold lines is open to you... you could come up to Koreatown and eat in any of a hundred truly great places, or go to Langer's, or go to Chinatown (there are still a few gems) -- wander around South Pasadena's cute little downtown...
Looks like route 57 will go from Fashion Island (pretty close to where you are staying in Newport) to South Coast Plaza (which is as close to a downtown as Costa Mesa has). Route 55 will get you from Fashion Island to 17th st in Costa Mesa (a lot of the recs on this thread are on 17th st), and also to Triangle Square (which is so dead now, it's not even worth visiting).
PS: As malls go, Fashion Island has a decent food court.
PPS: Don't confuse these bus routes with OC freeways of the same name.
Best local Mexican Food is at Las Barcas in Huntington Beach, just a couple miles up Coast Hwy, turn right on Beach Blvd, go about a mile to the first light, turn right into shopping center. Las Barcas is an institution in HB--cheap but all fresh-made-to-order, generous portions, and no lard. Been eating there for 20 years now, nothing for the price compares. Well worth checking out. Signature items are their soft chicken and carnitas tacos, but they have a whole menu full of great stuff. Owners are Argentinian, bring a real flair to the recipes!