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Steak doneness usually wrong (specifically: how should I order my Keens porterhouse tomorrow?)

jen223 Apr 3, 2008 06:50 PM

i'm going to keens tomorrow for the first time. i'm a luger (and porterhouse - medium rare) lover, and i've heard wonderful things about keens' porterhouse. i'm excited!

however, i can't seem to get my steaks cooked to (my) perfection. luger's porterhouse comes out perfect (usually), but wolfgang's, striphouse, sparks, etc. overcook my meat! ben & jack's has done a good job, though.

so...how should i order my porterhouse tomorrow? and is my definition of "medium rare" wrong? to me, medium rare means the meat is warm all the way through, mostly red but pink on the edges, inside looks a bit translucent and with a slight sheen, and the texture is a bit springy or squishy. maybe i should bring my meat thermometer with me.

what's your definition of medium rare??

  1. DarthEater Apr 4, 2008 06:53 AM

    I always order my porters rare and its perfect for me.

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    1. re: DarthEater
      tpigeon Apr 4, 2008 07:03 AM

      The advantage of rare is they are much less often overcooked. I am a rare fan too.

    2. s
      smokedgouda Apr 3, 2008 07:13 PM

      Keen's has one of the best steaks in the city. I also prefer medium rare and Keens cooked it to perfection. To me, it means charred on the outside (of course) but also warm throughout, reddish-pink in the center half-to-third of the meat. Medium rare on a thick cut is easier to do than on a thinner cut.

      If your night is going to be ruined by something not done to your standards, I would ask the waiter what they consider medium rare. Tell him that you are very picky about this, at the same time being nice, and I'm sure he will make sure you get it.

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      1. re: smokedgouda
        jen223 Apr 3, 2008 07:51 PM

        night wouldn't have been ruined - i just wish places were consistent!
        your description sounds absolutely delicious, though....can't wait to go with that and this prime rib hash i keep hearing about. thanks!

        1. re: jen223
          ESNY Apr 4, 2008 06:22 AM

          I've been to steakhouses where they describe what they cook it to when someone orders medium rare, so you should do the opposite.. just explain it to the waiter how you like it by describing the steak

          1. re: ESNY
            idia Apr 4, 2008 06:31 AM

            When I was at Keen's, I ordered mine med. rare but wished I had said rare plus.
            It can always be taken back and given a bit more heat but you can never reverse a too done steak.

            1. re: idia
              chundi Apr 4, 2008 07:06 AM

              i agree. i ordered medium rare and it was more like medium. the sirloin side was especially overdone. i'd go with rare.

              1. re: idia
                a_and_w Apr 5, 2008 11:13 AM

                That's a great point, idia. I usually order "medium rare," but am going to start ordering "rare" for the reason you describe.

          2. re: smokedgouda
            sugartoof Apr 5, 2008 01:47 AM

            Your description sounds perfect....while the photo posted above looked on the rare side to me especially in contrast to your well worded definition. It looks like a nice piece of meat but where's the medium-ness to it?

          3. k
            kathryn Apr 3, 2008 07:04 PM

            Here is a photo of a Keen's Porterhouse for two steak, medium rare:


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            1. re: kathryn
              jen223 Apr 3, 2008 07:47 PM

              that is beautiful! the piece in the back looks perfect and is making me drool.

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