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Mairzy Apr 3, 2008 10:21 AM

We moved to the Bay Area from Vancouver this year, which is to say we're stuck down on the Peninsula and are missing the city. I want to treat my husband to a relaxed anniversary dinner in San Francisco, somewhere warm and fun and delicious, but not $150 per person and not too much talk about the elevation at which the cows graze to produce the cheese ... (it's my husband who dislikes this, not me!) At home we always agreed on Vij's, not because of the Indian food so much as the yumminess and atmosphere, disagreed on Lumiere (me, yes, hubby, no, too precious and the prices just killed the fun for him.) I'm looking for the kind of place you can lose yourself in champagne and conversation and good food, bonus points for fun walking neighborhood, hoping to come in at $200 - ish. Happy to sit at the bar and chat with people. So far we've only eaten at Delfinas which was close to what I'm looking for, and Gary Danko which was a bit too claustrophobic and foodie for us (or maybe our mood that night.) Italian, French bistrot .. friends have suggested Foreign Cinema, Zuni, and Boulevard .. any input welcome!

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    mc2 Apr 4, 2008 06:46 PM

    It sounds like you are interested in bistro-y places, so I would suggest L'Ardoise, a new restaurant on Noe. No, not in Noe Valley but in the Dubose triangle about two block north of the messy intersection of Market/16th/Noe. (For the locals, this is the site of the late Los Flamingos.) It is a small, comfortable room and not too noisy. There are about 6 appetizers and 6-7 entrees, all under $20. We had the charcuterie plate, almond crusted barramundi, and the hanger steak. It was all good.

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    L'Ardoise
    151 Noe Street, San Francisco, CA 94114

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      dinnerout Apr 4, 2008 07:29 PM

      Good to know, I've been wanting to try it. Thanks

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        Xiao Yang Apr 4, 2008 07:58 PM

        What's on the charcuterie plate, and do they also have a choucroute garni?

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        mrsricho Apr 4, 2008 10:04 AM

        Just to throw one more into the mix I'd also recommend Bong Su. :-)

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          lintygmom Apr 4, 2008 09:46 AM

          Unless La Ciccia has gone downhill, it would be a wonderful, wonderful experience with lovely welcoming people. Perhaps with prosecco replacing the champagne. It's in south Noe Valley on the border with Glen Park and full of hills-or-not walks in pretty little Victorian streets. I had a house about 6 blocks away up and slightly off Church. Also less of a drive for you (tho parking is tough!) in a very safe neighborhood with, quite often, more pleasant walking weather in an early evening than downtown.

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            Robert Lauriston Apr 4, 2008 10:08 AM

            I love La Ciccia but it might be too crowded and noisy for this sort of occasion.

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            lisappel Apr 3, 2008 11:54 PM

            Kokkari's address: 200 Jackson St
            San Francisco, CA 94111
            Phone: (415) 981-0983

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              lisappel Apr 3, 2008 11:53 PM

              Kokkari is a terrific restaurant, very atmospheric/romantic, and nice area for walking afterwards. Not outrageously expensive. Food is Mediterranian, and wonderful. Recommend it highly.

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                Robert Lauriston Apr 4, 2008 09:37 AM

                Kokkari's food is quite specifically Greek. The decor's pretty fancy, some people might find it a bit stuffy.

                The surrounding area is pretty dead at night (empty office buildings), but the Embarcadero (bay-side promenade) is four blocks away, as is Columbus Avenue.

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                Concetta Apr 3, 2008 01:06 PM

                How about Firefly? Noe Valley is nice to walk around.

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                Firefly Restaurant
                4288 24th St, San Francisco, CA 94114

                1. sfeater Apr 3, 2008 12:37 PM

                  Sounds to me like Bar Tartine would fit the bill.

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                  Bar Tartine
                  561 Valencia Street, San Francisco, CA 94110

                  1. Robert Lauriston Apr 3, 2008 11:48 AM

                    Zuni could fit, depends on which table you get. The various dining rooms have very different noise levels.

                    If Delfina was close, Incanto might be right. Neighborhood's residential but nice for walking.

                    A16's very noisy, not a place I'd go for a relaxed meal.

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                      Mairzy Apr 3, 2008 12:03 PM

                      I looked at the posts about Incanto and was kind of put off by the description of the room as uncomfortable and lots of kids - maybe not a fair interpretation?

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                        Robert Lauriston Apr 3, 2008 12:09 PM

                        We tend to go at 8:30 or later, rarely see kids. When there's only two of us I like to sit at the bar and chat with the sommelier. It's the most comfortable bar seating I know--comfortable seats and a large step for your feet.

                        If Oakland's doable, I recommend À Côté. Ask for the (covered) back patio when reserving.

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                          Mairzy Apr 3, 2008 12:12 PM

                          That bar scenario at Incanto sounds great. I'm going to see if they can get us in. Thanks!

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                          Paul H Apr 3, 2008 12:20 PM

                          Incanto is a bit noisy and crowded for what I think you are looking for. Not a lot of children, though.

                          I think Boulevard would be perfect - though at the top end of your price range. The food is good without it being too precious or foodiefied, plus the neighborhood is good, you can catch a drink in Shanghai 1930, some sake in Ozumo, drop into The Slanted Door for appetizers and walk along the waterfront.

                          Zuni also seems it would be a place you would like, though there isn't a lot to walk to before or after.

                          Two other places you should consider are Bix and Absinthe.

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                          Zuni Cafe
                          1658 Market Street, San Francisco, CA 94102

                          Boulevard Restaurant
                          1 Mission St., San Francisco, CA 94105

                          Ozumo Restaurant
                          161 Steuart Street, San Francisco, CA 94105

                          Bix
                          56 Gold St., San Francisco, CA 94133

                          Absinthe Brasserie & Bar
                          398 Hayes Street, San Francisco, CA 94102

                          Shanghai 1930 Restaurant
                          133 Steuart Street, San Francisco, CA 94105

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                            susancinsf Apr 3, 2008 03:32 PM

                            I have seen a fair number of kids at Incanto, but then I tend to dine early. I agree with Robert that the bar is very comfortable, and the best location for one or two...

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                        Joan Kureczka Apr 3, 2008 10:28 AM

                        Would definitely agree with the recommendations on either Foreign Cinema or Zuni for the food and drink, if not necessarily the neighborhoods.

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                          Mairzy Apr 3, 2008 11:34 AM

                          Thanks! I'm kind of interested in A16 as well - have only read about it online but it looks good and also fun.

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                            wolfe Apr 3, 2008 11:44 AM

                            Obviously Mairzy dotes on her husband.

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                              rworange Apr 3, 2008 12:48 PM

                              And does he dote on little lambs eating ivy?

                              Anyway ... ancient Bing Crosby songs aside ... Zuni would seem to be a good fit ... though not much of a walking nabe. At Boulevard there would be a nice walk along the Embarcadero but the restaurant may not have the atmosphere you are looking for.

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                                Xiao Yang Apr 4, 2008 10:49 AM

                                Sorry to shake your tree, but that was a Pied Pipers song. The Groaner just covered it about 15 years after it hit the charts.

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                                Mairzy Apr 3, 2008 10:46 PM

                                Oh I just got the Mairzy dotes joke, am I dumb! That's very funny.

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