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Juniors Cheesecake Brooklyn a terrible waste of money!

Moiselover Mar 28, 2008 07:38 AM

Last night I took my 13 year old God daughter who lives in Brooklyn to dinner at Juniors Cheesecake in Brooklyn. For starters the place is very dated, and on the dirty side. It needs major renovations. Our waitress could not care less about any thing, she took our orders without writing them down and this would be impressive if she did not have to walk back to our table 3 times to ask us about our order because she forgot. Also while we were waiting for our food there was a situation in the kitchen and they I quote "had to call in the big guns" judging from the look on the 4 or 5 wait staff faces who did not want to go into the kitchen (since we were sitting right next to the kitchen) I would guess it was a rodent situation. I am not exactly sure. My God daughter was the only smart one she got the 20oz steak and it was good. I got brisket with potato pancakes it was NOT GOOD. My boyfriend got a BBQ chicken and ribs dinner it had a red disgusting mystery sauce on it that did not taste good, his entree also came with pea soup it was like a paste and it tasted burned. Needless to say neither he or I ate our meals. We also ordered calamari which was okay, and an order of mozzarella sticks that were generic at best like maybe school lunch. Lastly the only two vegetable choices were broccoli and collard greens. Can you say disgusting? The most audacious part of the evening is that after 9pm they add a 15% gratuity to the bill but I guess when you have service like that it's the only way the wait staff would be able to get a tip. On an ending note I think it's ridiculous that they have a woman in the bath room pumping hand soap and giving out towels as the place is anything but classy and the fact that you can look into the unkempt kitchen as you go up the stairs to the bathroom doesn't help your eating expierence. In all this was a huge waste of driving time from Bayside Queens and a painful waste of $111.00.

386 Flatbush Avenue Ext, Brooklyn, NY 11201

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  1. Puppimus RE: Moiselover Mar 28, 2008 07:49 AM

    Sorry to hear about your experience, that does sound terrible.

    Thirteen-year-olds should not be eating 20 oz. steaks. That's allotta meat. I hope she took most of that home.

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      Moiselover RE: Puppimus Mar 28, 2008 12:44 PM

      Actually my boyfriend took the rest home and he actually cut it up for her!!!

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      hmacleish RE: Moiselover Mar 28, 2008 08:01 AM

      Agreed, Junior's is terrible these days. The barbecue used to be really good there, as did the matzoh ball soup. Not anymore. The cheesecake remains pretty good, but the chocolate layer cake, which used to be a light fluffy cake with chocolate buttercream frosting, is a joke now. Thick, syrupy frosting??? No thanks. I'll stick to picking up strawberry cheesecakes at the take out counter.

      1. PlomeekSoup RE: Moiselover Apr 3, 2008 07:11 PM

        This reminds me of when my parents took me to Juniors for my 13th birthday. :)

        Besides the embarrassment from the waiters singing "happy birthday" (after we specifically asked them not to), I remember the food being disgusting and overpriced.

        I have long since designated Juniors as one of the worst tourist traps in the city.

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          Tay RE: Moiselover Apr 4, 2008 08:22 PM

          I recall an earlier thread on this board. Most of us felt that Junior's not only has sub par food and service, but their "famous" cheesecake is pretty dreadful as well.
          It's a shame you didn't post here before spending that kind of money for such a disappointing experience.
          BTW... I don't think you should feel obligated to explain to anyone here what your god child did or did not eat. We're not the boss of you :-}

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            Widmark RE: Tay Apr 5, 2008 12:28 AM

            and for what it's worth...while driving around Maspeth one day, lost, I drove by a giant Junior's warehouse...could it be the "famous brooklyn cheesecake" is actually made in...QUEENS?

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              Tay RE: Widmark Apr 5, 2008 06:36 AM

              I wouldn't be a bit surprised. Wherever it's made, it's now so cloyingly sweet that it's basically inedible. Better cheesecake is to be found at pretty much any neighborhood pastry shop/bakery. I'd recc Angelo's on 86th St and 25th Ave in Bensonhurst/Bath beach, Brooklyn. They make a dynamite American (Cream cheese) cheesecake as well as killer Lobster Tail pastries stuffed with french cream... .

          2. shindiganna RE: Moiselover Apr 5, 2008 05:29 AM

            The very best cheesecake I've ever had (Brooklyn or elsewhere) was at "The New St. Clair Diner" on Smith and Atlantic. Alas, the owners retired, and the new owners do not seem to have that recipe.....

            1. shindiganna RE: Moiselover Apr 20, 2008 05:14 AM

              Last week we had an out of town visitor. She wanted cheesecake, so we picked up a marbled chocolate Junior's cheesecake at Fairway. I have to say it was pretty good, better than the piece I had at Junior's. Go figure...

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                Tay RE: shindiganna Apr 20, 2008 11:41 AM

                It was probably fresher than anything you would be served at Junior's

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                  Striver RE: shindiganna Apr 22, 2008 11:11 AM

                  It's been a long, long time since I had a slice of Junior's cheesecake, but the one I liked (the only one) was the marble with NO topping. Glad to hear it's still pretty good. Up here in the Bx, it's all about S&S .

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                  the_state RE: Moiselover Apr 21, 2008 03:19 PM

                  does anyone know the spot where Peter Luger's gets their cheesecake from? I know the key lime pie comes from Steve's in Red Hook, I'm hoping there's another BK bakery that's "worthy" of making the dessert list.

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                    Tay RE: the_state Apr 22, 2008 04:54 AM

                    I don't know where PL's gets theirs, but there are numerous Brooklyn bakeries making praise worthy cheesecake.
                    I like Angelo's on 86th St and 25th Ave. Just ask for the "American style" cream cheese kind as opposed to the Italian, ricotta based type.

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                    cheffem RE: Moiselover Apr 22, 2008 09:21 AM

                    I agree completely, this place is living on its old reputation. Do not GO !!!!
                    I went for a quick lunch there last year, it took 90 minutes to be served a bad DRY cardboard like-brisket sandwich and dreadful mushroom barley soup, minus the mushrooms only one or 2 bits to be found, came out a bowl of gluey lukewarm barley.
                    It was so bad and the service so dreadful that the manager ended up buying my lunch.
                    NEVER AGAIN!!!!

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                      Tay RE: cheffem Apr 22, 2008 01:06 PM

                      I am at a loss as to how it is still in business. It's not as though it's a tourist destination. I can only assume that they have managed to get maximum milage from their past reputation, and/or, they have a steady stream of shoppers who are so tired and hungry that they will settle for anything.

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                        Boleslaw RE: Tay Apr 30, 2008 10:05 AM

                        I've been there four times in the past two years for lunch and dinner. The service is poor, the food is adequate, not great, and the cost is high, relative to the quality; about $15 for dinner, without desert. The cheesecake was good.

                        Health slaw, pickles, pickled beets, and pickled peppers are brought free to your table in Brooklyn when you order a sandwich or dinner, but only if you ask. In Manhattan, pickled peppers aren't provided.

                        Juniors in Times Square has much better service and higher quality. It's just about the only place I can order Tongue and receive it steamed -- not microwaved -- upon toasted rye for just $10.95 plus tax. At Second Avenue Deli, that's $20.95.

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                          shindiganna RE: Boleslaw Apr 30, 2008 01:33 PM

                          When we want deli: skip Juniors and hit Adelman's on King's Highway. It's a block or two from the Q line. No cheesecake, but good pastrami, divine matzoh balls and home made knish. For dessert there are other options in the neighborhood...

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                            Tay RE: shindiganna May 1, 2008 04:13 AM

                            Having had many platters of Adelman's sub par deli delivered to the office for meetings, I'd skip Adelman's as well and head for Jay and Lloyd's. Much fresher, better quality food and the nicest people imaginable.
                            Jay & Lloyd's Kosher Deli 2718 Avenue U

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                      hshbunnie RE: Moiselover Sep 19, 2008 08:11 AM

                      I went to Junior's last year for the first time with a friend and we were both mildly satisfied. We had calamari and something else, I don't remember, and lastly we had cheesecake for dessert. Long story short, I didn't finish the cake.

                      For cheesecake, has anyone tried Eileen's? I heard it was very good. My friend was obsessed with the idea of having one sent to her in the mail on her birthday.

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                      1. re: hshbunnie
                        Tay RE: hshbunnie Sep 19, 2008 09:19 AM

                        I've never tried/heard of Eileen's cheesecake but if your friend can handle the high shipping costs associated with shipping perishables, she might want to try cheesecake from the following site. I received one as a gift and it was very, very good..


                      2. citysweettooth RE: Moiselover Oct 3, 2008 06:01 PM

                        Sorry to hear about your experience. I haven't been there in a while but my method for going there was always to get a soup and enjoy the free pickles and rolls (if you insist they will also bring you pickled tomatoes but you have to say you saw them or they'll claim they don't have them. This happened to me twice!). Then have some cheesecake! (the whole reason for any Junior's visit) Also their sweet potato fries are good. Otherwise you'll pay too much and be over-full.

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                          Tay RE: citysweettooth Oct 4, 2008 03:35 PM

                          We've been pointing out that Junior's cheesecake is dreadful. Unless their soup is incredibly delicious (Which I tend to doubt) there really is no good reason to ever dine at Junior's. Any decent diner will give you free rolls/pickles with your order.

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                          msgordon RE: Moiselover Oct 15, 2008 10:25 AM

                          Sorry to hear your about what happened to you.I am a native New Yorker,I live in Florida now and have not been to Juniors in awhile.But are'nt you for getting they are not famouse for the food.Theu are famouse for the cheesecake. Some places you suffer have what they specialize in.They still have great cheesecake....

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                            Tay RE: msgordon Oct 16, 2008 07:36 AM

                            RE: "They still have great cheesecake".
                            I don't know how long it's been since you had any but unfortunately, they definitely no longer have great, or even good cheesecake.
                            They may have become famous for their cheesecake, but now its more like infamous

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                              Fleur RE: Tay Oct 31, 2008 01:21 PM

                              Had a business lunch at JUNIOR'S last week and the food was pretty good. The Cheesecake was outstanding. Many of the people attending stopped at the Bakery on the way out to pick up a Cheesecake to take home.

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                                Tay RE: Fleur Nov 1, 2008 02:26 AM

                                I'm glad to hear someone has had a good dining experience there. Unfortunately, I believe those are few and far between. As for the cheesecake, it had become unbearably sweet and had a gummy, almost paste like texture. If it's improved I'm happy to hear so.

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                            Brklynbobby RE: Moiselover Oct 16, 2008 12:52 PM

                            Junior's cheesecake has been lousy as long as I've been in Brooklyn (15 years). I ordered a cheesecake from Carnegie Deli in Manhattan for an office meeting one day and it was the creamiest, most delicious I've ever tasted. You should give it a try.

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                              Bingo The Cabbie RE: Brklynbobby Oct 31, 2008 12:17 PM

                              S & S Cheesecake in The Bronx is the best cheesecake in the world. Located on 238th st, one block east, off of Broadway.


                            2. Motosport RE: Moiselover Jan 13, 2010 07:32 AM

                              Juniors "dated?" Of course it is dated. Is Katz's dated too? Servers surly? Duh? It's Juniors!! You gotta love it for what it is. It's a Brooklyn thing!!
                              I've been going to Juniors since 1956. I always keep it simple. Pastrami sammich or cheeseburger with fries or onion rings. I like to go with a few people so we can order an assortment of desserts and share. Strawberry cheese pie, mile high ice cream sunday, rice pudding with strawberry sauce, ice cream soda and on and on!! It is all about the desserts. I proposed to my wife at Juniors and we had a massive strawberry cheese cake for our wedding cake. My mind is racing. I am going there for dinner tonight!!

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                                Tay RE: Motosport Jan 13, 2010 09:52 AM

                                Your lovely posting notwithstanding, there is no way around it: Their food is less than mediocre and the cheesecake is just plain awful.

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                                  Motosport RE: Tay Jan 13, 2010 12:49 PM

                                  Junior's cheeseburger, pastrami sammich and any of the desserts I mentioned. Never been disappointed!! They make a darn good vanilla egg cream too!! Call me a Luddite for preferring vanilla to chocolate but "dats wat I like!"
                                  As a matter of fact an excellent breakfast too!! L.E.O. omelette being my usual choice along with the platter of mini danish you get with breakfast.
                                  To each his/her own I guess.

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                                    Tay RE: Motosport Jan 13, 2010 02:14 PM

                                    "To each his/her own I guess"

                                    Very true :-)
                                    PS: I'm a fan of Vanilla EC's as well.

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                                      Motosport RE: Tay Jan 14, 2010 05:03 AM

                                      Phillistines unite!!! To me the creamy foam of a properly made vanilla egg cream is one of the heavenly delights. I usually spoon it out so that I can savor it before I take my first sip from the straw.

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                                        Tay RE: Motosport Jan 14, 2010 07:57 PM

                                        This posting inspired me to haul out the UBet vanilla syrup, a bottle of Seltzer and some real milk. I'm savoring a foamy glassful right now. :-)

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                                          phantomdoc RE: Motosport Jan 21, 2010 05:54 AM

                                          Drinking an egg cream through a straw? Like taking a shower with a raincoat (condom reference). You must raise the glass and take a long draught through the foam.

                                          I went to L.I.U. across the street from Juniors in the early "70's. The pastrami was top of the city, I think it won NY magazine poll. Cheesecake, strawberry cheese pie was unreal. Poverty stricken students could share a chef's salad and eat all the rolls and sours and bean salad for $3. Once some Chinese exchange students brought back pastrami sanwiches on white bread for take out lunch. Fond memories.

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                                            Motosport RE: phantomdoc Jan 21, 2010 09:18 AM

                                            My older cousin Leo Jr. (we call him Junior) would go to Juniors and order a nice pastrami sammich on rye. He'd take one of the dinner rolls from the basket and make another sammich with half of the piled high pastrami. "Tomorrow's lunch" he'd say!! Great memories!!

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                                              Tay RE: Motosport Jan 21, 2010 02:04 PM

                                              Maybe that's where Harold's got the idea for their 'Bread Bar.' :-)

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                                    StheJ RE: Motosport Jan 14, 2010 08:18 PM

                                    Junior's may have once been good, but today it is awful. I've lived in Brooklyn my whole life and just being around here for a long time is not enough to make something that has become completely awful into something that is good.

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                                    Fleur RE: Moiselover Jan 15, 2010 11:45 PM

                                    The OP is right in pointing out that JUNIORS serves great breakfasts.

                                    The cheesecake is of of this world delicious, and people come from all over the world to try it.

                                    I love the Plain, but agree that the Strawberry Cheese Pie is amazing. What a great idea for a wedding!

                                    We send JUNIORS Cheesecake as Christmas gifts all over the country, and everyone loves them and asks for more next year.

                                    I know it's in and kewl for yuppies to trash JUNIORS, but really, it is worth a trip fpr certain occasions. We took a visiting Church group of 15 teenagers and they thought they were in Burger and Cheescake Heaven.

                                    386 Flatbush Avenue Ext, Brooklyn, NY 11201

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                                      Striver RE: Fleur Jan 18, 2010 02:51 PM

                                      No yuppie I, but a lifelong New Yorker with plenty of years under my belt; in fact, I still spell "cool" the old-school way.

                                      When I worked at Metrotech over a decade ago, Junior's was one of the few decent places closer than the Heights for a lunch out, and even then was nowhere near its 50's-60's peak (the Junior's of my youth). If anything, a recent nostalgia visit proved it to have gone further downhill in the last 10 years.

                                      The food in general is a greasy shadow of its former self, and the cheesecake is an insult to what it used to be: gummy, bland, and if surmounted with what seems to be no better than canned pie filling, gloppy and toothachingly sweet.

                                      If you're in the neighborhood it's barely worth going. if you must go, the marble cheesecake - NO TOPPING - is your best choice; but as a destination it's a total waste of time and money.

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                                        Tay RE: Striver Jan 18, 2010 03:55 PM

                                        "........ gummy, bland, and if surmounted with what seems to be no better than canned pie filling, gloppy and toothachingly sweet"

                                        With all due respect to those who love it, I'll have to agree with Striver on this one.

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                                          StheJ RE: Tay Jan 18, 2010 04:04 PM

                                          I'm with Striver ad Tay on this one as well and I've lived in Brooklyn my whole life and am no yuppie. When I went there in high school, maybe it was good, but even then I remember it not living up to it's reputation.

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                                            foodismylife RE: StheJ Jan 21, 2010 08:38 AM

                                            junior's is a treasure as well as its cheescakes
                                            the pumpkin is off the charts sick
                                            please just go and enjoy
                                            do u want the world to be full of outback and applebees?
                                            the food is fine and the people nicer.
                                            great value

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                                              StheJ RE: foodismylife Jan 21, 2010 08:58 AM

                                              You're missing the point... I've been enough times to form a reasoned opinion and I disagree with your assessment of the food. I mean: when was the last time you were there? 1980? Maybe you we're right then, but not today, in 2010.

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                                                Striver RE: foodismylife Jan 21, 2010 08:59 AM

                                                Brooklyn has many fine local restaurants which are definitely worthy of patronage. IMO, Junior's isn't one of them.

                                                In fact, given its relatively recent addition of a large, tourist-packed Times Square restaurant (and its presence in the Grand Central food court), it's actually becoming more like an Applebee's or an Outback as we post.

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                                          phantomdoc RE: Fleur Sep 13, 2011 04:25 PM

                                          Oh I remember the big fat burgers cooking on a grill in the front window. Delish!

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                                          twan55 RE: Moiselover Jan 21, 2010 09:55 AM

                                          Junior's is awful. Maybe they should turn it into an old-time Brooklyn-diner theme park and pretend to serve food instead of actually serve it. Obviously neither an Applebee's nor an Outback would be better in its place (although their offerings might taste better, sorry to say), but that doesn't mean Junior's should receive unnecessary praise.

                                          It's a joke of a restaurant, one that is living off it's past reputation. They should either make it great again or turn it into a museum.

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                                            Fleur RE: StheJ Jan 21, 2010 11:16 PM

                                            We were there for lunch twice last week. It was packed with locals from the Court Street Law Firms ( we took clients), judges, local politicos, people who work in the Courts. folks on Jury Duty and people who work at MetroTech.

                                            The food was great,m as it usually is. Delicious burgers, sandwiches , and almost everyone had Cheesecake for dessert and loved it.

                                            People's taste's are different, but why diss those who enjoy Juniors. BTW, Nothing beats their breakfasts.

                                            We also sent Christmas gifts of 14 cheesecakes from Junior's to friends and relatives around the country, and 27 to clients.

                                            386 Flatbush Avenue Ext, Brooklyn, NY 11201

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                                            Furtgo RE: Moiselover Jul 30, 2010 07:37 AM

                                            Junior's is for going overboard on breakfast and burgers. I've always received good warm service from the waitstaff; maybe their cool Caribbean vibe of many of them or the elder veteran coolness of the others put you off. In addition to burgers and breakfast, I usually have the grilled salmon sandwich, onion rings and lots of mini-cornbread and mini-pastry appetizers. I think their red velvet cake is beating their cheesecake at the moment; the cheesecake recipe does not seem the same, but it's still good.

                                            386 Flatbush Avenue Ext, Brooklyn, NY 11201

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                                              Motosport RE: Furtgo Jul 30, 2010 09:11 AM

                                              Juniors is celebrating their 60th birthday with 60 cent cheesecake slices today (I think it is today, please check their web site)

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                                              phantomdoc RE: Moiselover Sep 13, 2011 04:22 PM

                                              The cheesecake was featured this week on the best thing I ever ate, American, fave of Rocco Despirito.

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