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Mar 26, 2008 07:14 PM

Top Chef Episode #3

Okay I'll start...

Boy did most of them seem to miss the quickfire point. This group doesn't seem very chef-y to me. I mean I think I could make fine dining tacos better than some of them and I am not even a great home cook. We'll see.

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  1. And after seeing Judges' Table (but still prior to whoever's going to be told to pack their knives), I dislike Andrew even more. "I'm not going home tonight - you'll have to drag me out of here. This is MY house!" Beyond cocky - delusional? Chef Colicchio looked like he wanted to belt him. I can only imagine what might have been said back to him had Anthony Bourdain been there instead of Rick Bayless. Perhaps something *was* said back to Andrew but was cut from the show. Can't wait to see what Colicchio says in his blog tomorrow.

    Still - can't see Andrew lasting the whole way. His fidgeting bugs me and I think his potential explosiveness could hinder him. Not surprised that Eric didn't make it through this one. Judges were right - he definitely should have known that the corn dogs weren't going to last 2 hours betwen frying and serving after transport.

    And I'm glad Stephanie won the overall challenge. Two for her!

    32 Replies
    1. re: LindaWhit

      pasta salad that you can buy better at the grocery store is pretty bad though too. but at least she's likable. spike and andrew are both just over the top arrogant. like refusing to follow the spirit of the challenges because they think it's dumb. what's that all about?

      1. re: AMFM

        Agree on the pasta salad. She should have spoken up earlier to say she didn't want to make that. But even tho the Judges say previous challenges don't count, perhaps Erik being in the bottom group in Ep. 1 counted against him this time?

        1. re: LindaWhit

          Who cares if she didn't want to make pasta salad? Bad news. In this business you don't get the luxury of just cooking what you feel like cooking. Pasta salad should have been a cake walk. Maybe not to win but easilly not to be at the bottom either. Sometimes flying low for a while is a smart move both on theese shows and IRL.

          1. re: Docsknotinn

            Obviously SHE cared, Docs. She's there to showcase her talents - that's the whole *point* of the show - to show innovation and what you can do in the kitchen. Any monkey can make pasta salad! (to borrow a phrase from Hung in TC3).

            She wasn't strong enough, however, to say something from the beginning. Flying low has gotten other cheftestants in trouble - the judges don't like them coasting either.

            1. re: LindaWhit

              If any monkey can make pasta salad, that makes Zoi's sins that much worse. I don't care what the dish is; there's no excuse for flavorless food.

              1. re: Jackpot

                I don't disagree with you. But if she didn't WANT to make it, she should have spoken up. Her bad for not doing so and just going with what was "assigned" to her. If there had been leaders of each group and each person got assigned a dish by that leader, she could still make an argument about why it wouldn't work or be good or whatever. But she complacently took what was given to her.

                Yes, she should have made a knockout pasta salad. But I still go back to the point that she didn't speak up when she had a chance to do so. It was a group effort - but the show remains a focus on individual contribution. And if something else would have shown her talents better and been appropriate for the block party, she should have spoken up.

                1. re: LindaWhit

                  I agree completely, Linda. Zoi should have said that she wasn't comfortable making the dish.

              2. re: LindaWhit

                "She's there to showcase her talents - that's the whole *point"

                Sorry but I dissagree. She's there to win not whine. You don't get any place in the big kitchen by screwing up then crying about it. I would have sent them both home.

                "Any monkey can make pasta salad!"

                Obviously not.

                1. re: Docsknotinn

                  "She's there to showcase her talents - that's the whole *point"

                  Sorry but I dissagree. She's there to win not whine.
                  Yes, and winning requires showcasing her talents. If pasta salad isn't her talent - don't make it!

                  "Any monkey can make pasta salad!"

                  Obviously not.
                  I was being facetious. :-/ Again, if she didn't want to make it, she shouldn't have. She should have made something that showed her cooking skills.

                  1. re: LindaWhit

                    Ok I agree but she screwed up either way. Failure is failure with or with out the after thought whining. She had three options once she committed, Succeed, fail or fall in the middle. It's pretty pathetic that a chef at this level can't handle a pasta salad or Mac n Cheese for that matter. This season is pretty lame overall.

                    1. re: Docsknotinn

                      I have to say the judges are a bit over the top this time. I understand they are used to fine dining (and I agree they shouldn't "dumb down" to a neighborhood) but the challenge was for a block party. Hello- pasta salad is standard there. I doubt the judges have ever eaten pasta salad at a family gathering or block party. Therefore don't realize the nature of the dish (but paella & piccata they are clear on- tom with his definitions of the dish- oy vey! Give it a rest!). Altho it should have been flavorful IDK- sun dried tomatoes and feta maybe, there is a better alternative out there I'm sure! I'm am agravated so far, judges need to gain some perspective and Bravo needs to step it up!

                      1. re: jme1beachbum

                        It wasn't that they were upset Zoi made pasta salad - they were aggrivated because it was awful. I believe one of the neighborhood residents had said they had eaten better packaged pasta salad.

                        1. re: wingman

                          I am an average cook at best and below average when it comes to Chowhounds, etc. Having said that, I made several kick-ass pasta salads.

          2. re: AMFM

            i couldn't understand the pasta salad at all. it's not like they are working from recipes - if she didn't like it, why didn't she change what was in it? the corn dogs were a no-brainer and a sure loser. he's probably a better cook than a few people left, but that's how it goes.

            richard and his paella - oh where to start? sure most people in the neighborhood probably have good paella, but the judges sure have - not sure what the thinking was there (besides imunity, of course). andrew's comment was really stupid, but i don't think he's known for thinking before he blurts something out. andrew being andrew, if you will.

            1. re: azhotdish

              Really? You think he is better cook? Even after his hideous ep. 1 souffle, he made something that brought similar mental pictures to my head for the quick fire. And as SOON as he said he was doing corndogs I knew where that was going.

              1. re: dagoose

                Yeah, I don't see any indication that Erik is a good cook at all. What has he done that was good? Those tacos for the quickfire were really lame looking, and his "Mexican food and fine dining don't go together" attitude was both ignorant and insulting to legions of great Mexican chefs.

                I have to say I'm not super impressed by anyone yet. None of the challenges so far has been very hard -- putting together a dish of five ingredients from the farmers' market is a lot easier than food from a gas station or a vending machine -- and there's been lots of whining, excuses and attitude. These cheftestants don't look to be anywhere near the quality of season three, more like season two.

                1. re: dagoose

                  cannot agree with you more- his plates looked so terrible they were comic.

              2. re: AMFM

                I think Zoi benefitted from the situation that the judges probably did NOT want to send home three women in a row?????

                I don't like pasta salad either, but when I was catering, and someone ordered it, we made a kick-a$$ pasta salad for them. You don't have to personally love every dish you make to make one that tastes great.

                1. re: ChefJune

                  Also Bravo is banking on the continued couple-drama of Jen and Zoi. Not that I think the producers participate in the decisions...I believe Colicchio's repeated statements to the contrary. But Bravo has to be happy that Zoi didn't leave yet. However, I will not be surprised if she doesn't last much longer...her efforts so far haven't been much better than Erik's.

                  Erik seemed really nice but whoa what a lapse in judgment, dissing Bayless on national TV, and displaying massive ignorance about Mexican cuisine. Check out amuse-biatch for a very nice tirade about his ignorant attitude.

                  1. re: kenito799

                    I'm not done reading the thread, but I have to interject....I haven't looked at the credits of this episode, but in the credits of previous episodes, I would swear that there is a note in there that it says the producers and Bravo execs have a hand in the judging.

                    It's a flash. I would think it's rather obvious. And knowing that going into it, I would NEVER insult a guest judge..I imagine they are on the show for a never know who is friendly with who. As soon as Eric said Bayless could kiss his butt or some such colorful comment after losing the quickfire, he might as well have painted a target on his forehead.

                    1. re: sommrluv

                      yes they always show that message, it is some sort of disclaimer, but Colicchio and the other judges have said over and over that they have free reign to judge as they please without interference, and that the food is most important. Of course, we wouldnt expect any of them to reveal that they have been precoached about who the producers would like to keep around...conspiracy theories will always surround these shows...

                      1. re: sommrluv

                        I'm actually not convinced he said that after losing the quickfire. He said it in a separately filmed interview session. It may have been after the quickfire, but it may have been part of his post elimination interview that was then edited in after the quickfire, which would explain his hostility and also the fact that he said that despite the fact that it doesn't reflect the fact that he (1) did "glorified nachos" for his first elimination dish and (2) works at a restaurant that is based on reinventing classics. Reality shows often edit in portions of the separate one-on-one interviews wherever they fit thematically rather than in strict chronological order. It's television, it's edited. Is anyone surprised by this in the year 2008?

                        As for the disclaimer: they've always had it, all Bravo's competitive reality shows have it. They need it to protect themselves against legal liability for the exact claims that people always make: that the judging is controlled by the producers (or the network) and that eliminations are done on a basis other than the basis given. If they say up front that that may happen, then that constitutes fair warning to the contestants that, basically, they can't complain about judging conspiracies.

                        But from what I've read in both Top Chef and Project Runway, the judges really do make the decisions without any input from the producers. Do you really think that Tom Colicchio and some of the other famous, well-respected chefs (not media whores like Rocco and Ted Allen) would lend their professional credibility to a decision that wasn't theirs?

                        Finally, the judges don't see any of the footage of what goes on in the kitchen/work room when they're not there, in the house and in the interviews. You'll often see them remark afterwards that they had no idea of what was going on and are often surprised or even shocked when they see the footage. So even if Erik said that after the quickfire, no one saw it outside of production until they aired the show. What editing in that comment did do was help build the narrative that he was a jerk with an attitude problem and that bad things were going to happen to him, making it seem obvious that he was going to be eliminated. As people are getting more savvy about watching these shows, the editing tricks become more and more obvious.

                        1. re: Ruth Lafler

                          "Do you really think that Tom Colicchio and some of the other famous, well-respected chefs (not media whores like Rocco and Ted Allen) would lend their professional credibility to a decision that wasn't theirs?"

                          Honestly, yes. I've come to the point where I don't believe *anything* is real anymore, and I've become cynical about everything (and not just reality TV, even normal media is so infused w/ guerilla marketing, etc that it is hard to know what is just some bored art student and what is a carefully crafted ad campaign). That being said, I don't believe that TC is "fixed".

                          1. re: jgg13

                            So hard to resist when topic is media...

                            The ties between art and commerce have been there for ages. Many beautiful documentaries of the Free Cinema 'movement' were funded by Ford. A stunning avant-garde cartoon called 'The Birth of the Robot' was funded by Shell Oil. I don't recommend becoming demoralised as if this were somehow a negative progression. What was 'TRUE' for you before?

                            We're watching provocations here, where the camera is a catalyst for all kinds of responses and behaviours. Let's try to see what is happening here rather than decry the loss of truth, as if there had ever been an effective, pure, transmission of truth in the past. (Or maybe there has been and you can let me know. But that would be OT.)

                          2. re: Ruth Lafler

                            Ruth, good on you for noting that we do not know the full circumstances behind this interview. Moreover, while the direct address gives us the impression of a confessional, something free-flowing and self-produced, I know that producers are often provoke and prompt response with questions, like 'Well if so-and-so said this to you, what would you say to him/her?'

                            In effect, it was a bad move on his part to forget that anything he said in front of a camera would be broadcast, but the saying it could have been brought on by a number of provocations-- possibly incessant ones leading to a more heated response.

                            What we do know is that this clip helps produce a character and a narrative for the programme that justifies his being voted out. (Frankly, I figure that the constant inability to distinguish himself save for negatively for 6 challenges did not work well in his favour. And that may have factored into the final decision for the judges; true, the producers would want to keep Zoi for other narrative purposes, but we could have lost the boring white guy-- Ryan-- if it were all about teh dramaz.)

                            1. re: Lizard

                              "Moreover, while the direct address gives us the impression of a confessional, something free-flowing and self-produced, I know that producers are often provoke and prompt response with questions, like 'Well if so-and-so said this to you, what would you say to him/her?' "

                              Another good point. Often, a contestant will be criticized for seeming to harp on another contestant or being too critical. But many (if not all) of those statements are made in response to unseen, unheard questions. Even if they innocuously ask the contestants "so, give us an assessment of each of your fellow competitors" those assessments come across very differently when it seems like the person spontaneously started critiquing another competitor.

                            2. re: Ruth Lafler

                              I have religiously read the judges' blogs each season, and though I don't take them as inerrant gospel, I feel fairly confident in Tom's stand on the producer's interference. He's amused by the conspiracy theories, and has said the only time the producers interfered was when the judges wanted to send everyone home (not just Cliff) after the Marcel head-shaving incident.

                    2. re: LindaWhit

                      I can't stand Andrew's personality. I don't know whether he's nervous or what, but he really rubs me the wrong way; he was out of control at the judges' table.

                      1. re: Jackpot

                        i'm with you. my husband thinks he must be off the ritalin. ;)

                      2. re: LindaWhit

                        I am wondering... did I miss something they said to Andrew? It seemed to me like his outburst about not being thrown off was not only inappropriate, but apropos of nothing.

                        Personally if I were Tom Colicchio, anyone who said something like that would be off the show immediately. It sounded borderline threatening to me.

                        1. re: Adrienne

                          I definitely had the impression that portions of the discussion leading up to Andrew's "outburst" were left on the editing floor. Of course with never know.

                        2. re: LindaWhit

                          I sure hope that Andrew's outburst was some attempt at strategy. I'd rather think Andrew blew up to demonstrate intense passion in the hope that might be a deciding factor in a close elimination vote. It would be truly frightening if his out of control behavior represents his normal response to criticism or potential disappointment.

                        3. Agree with the above points. I liked the good humor and manic energy Andrew brought to the proceedings. Didn't mind the cursing, twitchiness, etc. Plus, it looks like the guy can cook. But he was out of line at judges' table.

                          I thought that his team felt so unified and confident, and then so surprised to be the losing team, that the judges almost looked a little beaten down. You don't see that too often. I also liked the moment when Colicchio wipes his brow in an involuntary nervous gesture, like "whew." I was surprised they didn't come back at Andrew for his conduct. I wonder what was edited out? I hope Colicchio mentions it in his blog.

                          It was disappointing to see one of my favorites have a meltdown like this. He is either on drugs -- or, being on the show, he is withdrawing off of something he is used to having every day. He might want to hit Padma up for a fix. Or is he just naturally wired that way? Either way it was pretty unacceptable. It's not "his house."

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                          1. re: Budget Palate

                            I have the feeling, too, that something's going on with Andrew that's more than nervousness, twitchiness, etc. On the one hand I feel badly for him, but on the other it probably took guts on his part to be there.

                            Not surprised one bit at the ousting of Eric. He should've known better, given his "I make these all the time in my restaurant" explanation.

                            1. re: xo_kizzy_xo

                              what happened to the posts suggesting there may be a self-medicating reason for Andrew's behavior?

                              1. re: karenfinan

                                Speculation about possible drug use really is too far afield for our boards and so we've removed those posts.

                            2. re: Budget Palate

                              Am not an Andrew fan, but he is very entertaining. I actually think he's got some form of ADHD.

                              I was actually surprised that Erik left. Was so sure it was going to be Zoe with that pasta salad, especially with the way Bravo edited it. But I think Zoe is the stronger contender so I'm glad she stayed. And Erik was very annoying with the whole Mexican is not upscale thing. Has he not been to Mexico? There are a lot of upscale Mexican restaurants.

                            3. I'm so glad the condescension inherent in the losing team's work got pointed out at the judge's table. Paraphrasing: "This is what these people like/are used to." Vomit.

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                              1. re: aelph

                                I also thought it was pretty condescending of those contestants who, in the quick fire, stated emphatically that Mexican was not fine dining. So nowhere in the entire country are there high-end tacos?

                                1. re: mojoeater

                                  Especially when the guest judge was Rick Bayless(Frontera Grill and fine dining Topolobampo). How stupid can you get?

                                  1. re: aelph

                                    I'm also glad the condescension got pointed out. I thought that Ted Allen got the point of the night when he said that the food needs to taste good whether you're making a jelly donut or sous vide duck breast. I was prepared to dislike Bayless at judges' table but I thought he made some good points also.

                                    And haven't the cheftestants seen the show before? They oughtta know that on this show you always cook for the judges, always make the food as good as possible, and you don't condescend.

                                    1. re: Budget Palate

                                      at the same point i think you cook for the challenge too - which was the problem with the quickfire. everyone (practically) ignored the instructions. at the block party i just wanted to scream "there is something in between these two!!!! haven't any of you ever been to an outdoor party with normal people?" we eat more than hotdogs but paella is a bit unwieldy at such an event - and personally i wouldn't trust shellfish at that kind of a thing even though i love it. anyway i thought the fruit dessert, the fun smores and actually dale's skewers looked like things that would go over great most places. a bit different but easy to eat and just yummy.
                                      interesting that stephanie's won twice - and that despite the celery chip i actually thought her banana bread dessert looked amazing last challenge. interesting. oh and there was almost NO footage of Mark and what he did this week. Also noticed them calling Manuel Memo - he did get a bit more air time.

                                2. re: aelph

                                  i so agree! spike in particular was extremely condescending about the people they were serving, referring to "middle america" and their "less developed palates"-- & "this is what these people eat"-- but he evidently didn't notice that he's in *chicago,* (and a very wealthy neighborhood in north chicago or 'burbs at that) or bother to look around the well-appointed kitchens in the homes before he decided this. in actuality most of the folks at the block party were probably used to pretty sophisticated dining and the soggy corn dogs weren't going to cut it. spike and andrew are both ny transplants from florida, they seemed to play off of each other in their off-base assumptions and dumbing down their menu in this episode. they're the bobsy twins!

                                  1. re: soupkitten

                                    That was one homogenous neighborhood, that's for sure.

                                    1. re: soupkitten

                                      that was a newly upscale neighborhood... not "very wealthy." and in the city. really familiar looking from my childhood. Lots of Chicago looks like that. 8>)

                                      1. re: ChefJune

                                        wow. that neighborhood doesn't look anything like where my dad grew up on the south side. the kitchens were well appointed and the maids had obviously left moments before the cameras got there, not a dirty coffee cup out of place anywhere-- i do not buy for a minute that the homeowners did not know top chef was showing up to raid their fridges.

                                        i guess "very wealthy" is in the eye of the beholder, but if folks can afford a $400,000+ house on the north side of chicago they can afford a nice meal at an upscale restaurant. the red team seemed to think they were in the middle of rural nebraska, not minutes away from some of the best fine dining restaurants in the country. they wanted to believe that well-off folks in chicago don't know good food from a hole in the ground-- i just think they were sadly mistaken. i don't think soggy corn dogs and bland pasta salad would cut it at a block party in *my* neighborhood, much less in an area where people can afford to eat better food.

                                        1. re: soupkitten

                                          i do not buy for a minute that the homeowners did not know top chef was showing up to raid their fridges.
                                          Lee Ann Wong has already stated in her blog that she and others on the TC staff met with homeowners to make sure they were OK with the kitchen raids. Plus - camera shots from within the house when the cheftestants rang the doorbell at one of the houses kinda gave away the fact that they were aware what was happening and that they had given their approval.

                                          1. re: LindaWhit

                                            We noticed the inside the house camera angles while watching the show. Obviously the home owners knew this was coming.

                                            Who among us wouldn't have gone out and stocked our kitchen with goodies (or at least what we deemed as goodies) had we known Bravo cameras were coming to our door?

                                            Maybe I've missed this somewhere in these posts and it's already been discussed, but wasn't there a show on FN (quite some time ago) that involved that cheeky British fellow who went in to "unsuspecting" people's houses and cooked a dinner for them? I use to love that show - or loved the British bloke, it's been awhile - hard to remember.

                                            1. re: Mushroom

                                              I think the show was called Door Knock Dinner with Gordon Elliot. This is the show that introduced us to Paula Deen.

                                              1. re: KTinNYC

                                                Gordon Elliott is also Sandra Lee's producer and her squeeze now that she is divorced from her very wealthy husband.

                                                1. re: Phaedrus

                                                  :::gasp:::: You used the SL word in a TC thread! No, no, no - BAD Phaedrus! Go to bed without supper and just THINK about what you've done. ;-)

                                                  1. re: LindaWhit

                                                    LOL. That's OK I get chastised by the CH police all the time.

                                                  2. re: Phaedrus

                                                    I thought "the ones name that shall not be mentioned" dumped GE and is now hanging with Andrew Como.

                                            2. re: soupkitten

                                              Plus it was very clear that these folks new the home town favorite Bayless (not to mention shopped at farmer's markets etc). They might have been "average" folks holding a block party, but I agree with lots of posters that there was no need to dumb down the food for them.

                                              1. re: Elyssa

                                                The "super-fan" blog on Bravo said the neighborhood was VERY disappointed in much of what was made for their party - they were definitely expecting higher-end food.

                                                1. re: LindaWhit

                                                  That doesn't surprise me. Even if their typical fare is hotdogs and hamburgers (which was probably not an accurate assumption on the part of the Red Team; I've had some great food at these types of gatherings over the years), if professional chefs were showing up, why wouldn't they expect the eats to reflect that? Before the judges announced their decision, I thought they might have said neither team were winners and either not sent anyone packing or sent 2 people home.

                                                  1. re: LindaWhit

                                                    I SO agree...

                                                    Just think about it...How would WE feel if Top Chef came to our town, for a block party, and raided our pantry?

                                                    We'd let them take whatever we wanted, really good items.

                                                    Than we would expect them to pull out something spectacular. Wouldn't you just want to throw your soggy corndog at them in disgust?

                                                    You know the gossip of the neighborhood is which neighbor gave 12 packs of hot dogs, and which neighbor gave out enough seafood for paella......those CHEAPO Johnsons! Hot dogs! LOL

                                                    1. re: LindaWhit

                                                      I really wish whenever they did a community show, they would pick a few random people from the crowd and have them to judges' panel. Let THEM say whether it was a hit or miss with the crowd, instead of having the judges tell them chefs what real people would want. If they had done that, their decision could have taken into account this information that LindaWhit has given us now.

                                                      1. re: Adrienne

                                                        i agree. i think one time the crowd actually decided the winner - i wonder if they disagreed and that's why they don't anymore - but i'd still like to see more. the comments i heard were hard to read.

                                                        1. re: Adrienne

                                                          Agree with that Adrienne. They used to show more of the guests at the function and their comments; there seemed to be a lot less this show. Except as stated earlier, I think a silent but telling comment was one of the neighborhood folk emptying a Kingsford charcoal bag into a Weber grill.

                                                          1. re: LindaWhit

                                                            Well, I have to admit that whenever I build a Kingsford charcoal fire in my Webber grill I ALWAYS make sure to have the label side of the bag facing the camera. Then I'll go sit in my Rav4 and chug a few bottles of Hidden Valley Ranch dressing. But who doesn't?

                                                            1. re: LabRat

                                                              I guess I'm a little out of practice making sure the Kingsford label shows for the camera, as I've been using a gas grill for about 15 years. I'll have to make sure I remember this next time around. :-)

                                                          2. re: Adrienne

                                                            they did this once in season 2 - it was a create-your-own-ice cream challenge, and they took it to boardwalk and everyone filled out comment cards to determine the winners and losers. not quite the same as your suggestion, but close.

                                                            1. re: azhotdish

                                                              yes! i remember that -- that's how i think all of the crowd-pleaser ones should work. that would make me happy :)

                                                2. re: aelph

                                                  They should have known from the first house they went into (with the lady who had just returned from the farmer's market) that it was not a neighborhood filled with uncultured masses. Also, did I see someone getting loads of meyer lemons from another house?

                                                  I live in a neighborhood very similar to that. It's an established city neighborhood with lots of older bungalows--not generica suburbia. The people who tend to be attracted to that type of neighbhorhood are former urban dwellers who have a couple of kids and realize they want more space, but still go for a neighborhood with quirks and character, not cookie cutter tract homes. They were probably more likely to have sophisticated palate than the average suburban dweller. They have hotdogs in the fridge because they have kids and kids like hotdogs!

                                                  And Andrew, my husband's non-professional opinion is that he has Tourette's syndrome.

                                                  Richard drives me crazy. I think he is all style and no substance, and don't think we'll see him in the Top 4.

                                                  1. re: Megiac

                                                    re: the neighborhood, from ted's blog:

                                                    "Some of those little houses are now worth a million bucks. The governor of Illinois lives one block north of where Team Red and Team Blue slung their grub. And I couldn’t help noticing in one of those once-humble kitchens where the chefs were raiding the pantry, there was a 48-inch Viking pro range, slate on the floor, and soapstone counters. Those were not just bratwurst aficionados, chefs. Some of those fridges contained fresh asparagus and prosciutto."

                                                3. I think Erik looked lost and he didn't even want to do the food hunt thing. I could just see it in his eyes. Oh crap, I gotta do what!

                                                  Still, as someone else said I would have booted Andrew off ASAP after his remarks. I would have loved to see him dragged off by guards. Not to mention his clear lack of understanding of just how bad his team did. If he can't see that, he wont be around long. But wow, he is irritating that's for sure.

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                                                  1. re: SDMike

                                                    Just a thought in general- both teams didn't do well (clearly stated by judges to winning team), so why is anyone (judges included) surprised that losing team was surprised. Ugh. This show makes me crazy and it makes me crazy knowing a television show can do that!

                                                  2. I was glad to see Erik leave after his ignorant comments about Mexican food. Dude needs to visit Chicago, or Mexico City for that matter.

                                                    As irritating as Andrew may be, I think he's one of the strongest chefs this season. His tacos looked delicious.

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                                                    1. re: Morton the Mousse

                                                      I completely concur with both your points Morton. I'm willing to bet that Andrew will make it to the top 4.

                                                      1. re: KTinNYC

                                                        He was a chef at Le Cirque...he has to have some chops. Would I want to hang out with him 24/7? Probably not...but he's creative and fun to watch on the show.