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Dinner with Dad

efhorton Mar 25, 2008 06:34 PM

My dad is coming to visit in April and wants to take me out to dinner for my birthday. I want really good food and he wants quiet. In the past we've gone to Le Bernardin, Bouley, Daniel, Degustation, Gramercy Tavern. This time I was hoping for something a little more on the casual side but still nice. Any neighborhood is fine. Ideas? Suggestions? I've been coming up with ideas from this board but he keeps being concerned that they are going to be too noisy.

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  1. Steve R RE: efhorton Mar 25, 2008 06:48 PM


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      samiam123 RE: efhorton Mar 25, 2008 07:06 PM

      How about Tocqueville?

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        samiam123 RE: efhorton Mar 25, 2008 07:09 PM

        Also thought of DelPosto or Babbo...

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          BlueHerons RE: samiam123 Mar 26, 2008 11:13 AM

          Love Babbo.

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            Steve R RE: BlueHerons Mar 26, 2008 01:14 PM

            Been there on many quiet nights?

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          cavafan RE: efhorton Mar 26, 2008 07:43 AM

          Eleven Madison Park? Or the Modern?

          1. LeahBaila RE: efhorton Mar 26, 2008 07:45 AM

            Check out Dovetail (I feel like I've been recommending it alot). I was extremely impressed, as was my dining partner.


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              efhorton RE: efhorton Mar 26, 2008 07:53 AM

              Thanks for the responses.
              I had considered both Eleven Madison Park and Dovetail but the New York Times reviews list them as 'Loud in spots and at times, but not painfully so' and 'Moderately loud' respectively so my dad was concerned about them. Do you think those are accurate?

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                MMRuth RE: efhorton Mar 26, 2008 08:02 AM

                I don't recall EMP being loud at all.

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                  LeahBaila RE: MMRuth Mar 26, 2008 08:10 AM

                  Me neither. Dovetail isn't loud at all, either.


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                    rrems RE: LeahBaila Mar 26, 2008 08:46 AM

                    Actually, it depends on where you are seated. Our first two times we were in a corner and it was fine, but the last time we were in the middle of the room at a table next to a brick wall. I don't know if it was the sound bouncing off the wall or what, but I did find it moderately loud. The times we went to EMP, I felt it was very quiet, but again it may depend on where you are seated. I would request a quiet spot when reserving at either.

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                      uwsgrazer RE: rrems Mar 26, 2008 11:11 AM

                      Dovetail has a lower level. I found the area to be quiet enough for my taste. Your dad seems to be very sensitive to noise so I wouldn't want to venture to guess whether he would find it too loud. My understanding was that the lower level could be reserved for larger groups ($1200 minimum, I think without service and tax). I actually considered that myself but decided against it. In any case, if a large party reserves the room for the evening, then you would be out of luck. You could also be potentially out of luck if a large group sits there but doesn't reserve the entire level and they turn out to be loud, in which case diners at adjacent tables may feel overwhelmed by the larger group.

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                bronwen RE: efhorton Mar 27, 2008 07:55 AM

                Picholine would be very nice.

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                  MMRuth RE: bronwen Mar 27, 2008 07:57 AM

                  Good and recent review of it here:


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                    rrems RE: MMRuth Mar 27, 2008 08:01 AM

                    I would have suggested Picholine, but it is anything but casual, so I didn't think it is what OP is looking for.

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                      MMRuth RE: rrems Mar 27, 2008 08:04 AM

                      Very good point!

                2. DarthEater RE: efhorton Mar 27, 2008 09:02 AM

                  Babbo but request for upstairs only and you must make a reservation exactly one month in advance.

                  L' Atelier de Joel Robuchon by the bar is casual and quiet.

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