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knife-shaved noodles: Joy, Darda, or elsewhere?

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david kaplan Mar 25, 2008 06:07 AM

What's your current favorite place for fried (not soup) knife-shaved noodles? I liked them at Joy and saw tanspace's praise for Darda (http://eat.tanspace.com/2007/08/21/no...). I'll probably be ordering just noodles for lunch, so the quality of the rest of the food is irrelevant.

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Joy Restaurant
1489 Beach Park Blvd, Foster City, CA 94404

Darda Seafood Restaurant
296 Barber Ct, Milpitas, CA 95035

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  1. lexdevil RE: david kaplan Mar 25, 2008 07:48 AM

    Shan Dong in Oakland.

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    Shan Dong Mandarin Restaurant
    328 10th St, Oakland, CA 94607

    1. daveena RE: david kaplan Mar 25, 2008 08:06 AM

      Here was my report on Darda - I found the noodles a little soft, and the flavor disappointing.
      http://www.chowhound.com/topics/488279

      Second lexdevil's Shandong rec - I like the pork and preserved vegetable preparation the best (the first time I had the zha jian mian, it was amazing - subsequent orders have been too sweet and one-dimensional.)

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        lexdevil RE: daveena Mar 25, 2008 08:51 AM

        Any of the noodle preparations can be served w/ the hand cut noodles for $1.00 extra. My son likes the Deluxe Combo Chow Mein, which has the standard assortment of meats and veg in it. I agree w/ Daveena on the shredded pork and preserved veg noodles. I can't remember what the zha jiang mian style noodles were called, but when tried them I remarked on their similarity to zha jiang mian but our server insisted that they were different. She said the sauce was yellow bean rather than black. Ultimately, language differences may have rendered this information inaccurate, but that is what I believe that I was told.

      2. Robert Lauriston RE: david kaplan Mar 25, 2008 08:30 AM

        Best I've had were at Peking Eastern House (aka Chingun Eastern House), which moved from Fremont to San Jose last year.

        Shan Dong's are pretty good.

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        Chinjin Eastern House
        1530 S De Anza Blvd, San Jose, CA

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          david kaplan RE: Robert Lauriston Mar 25, 2008 09:10 AM

          How recently did you have knife-shaved noodles at Peking Eastern? A recent Yelp poster says they don't make them anymore, for whatever that's worth.

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            Humbucker RE: david kaplan Mar 25, 2008 01:31 PM

            I had beef noodle soup with knife cut noodles a couple of weeks ago at PEH, so they definitely still have them.

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              david kaplan RE: Humbucker Mar 25, 2008 02:08 PM

              Thanks for confirming. What did you think of their noodles?

        2. yimster RE: david kaplan Mar 25, 2008 08:59 AM

          I have had knife cut noodles at many places but my two favorites at at Joy which has already been posted and 5'A in Burlingame.

          The chow mein at these two have been outstanding.

          5'A has it on there English menu so it should not be a problem. Like Joy they both have a Chinese only menu which has been a problem in the past. Order the seafood combination.

          Have not been to Joy is over three years but both are keen on my mind.

          Darda food has slipped in the past two years and I do not plan to go any time soon.

          Fatama (sp) in the South has a good one to it recently moved and do not remember where exactly it is now. In the South Bay.

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            Robert Lauriston RE: yimster Mar 25, 2008 09:12 AM

            The Fatima in San Jose reopened in a new location.

            The one in San Mateo closed. I had knife-cut noodles there and thought Eastern House's were better.

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            Fatima Restaurant
            10125 Bandley Dr, Cupertino, CA 95014

          2. Robert Lauriston RE: david kaplan Mar 25, 2008 09:16 AM

            One other place worth trying is New Ma's. I haven't been to the Mountain View branch, but the branch in San Francisco (closed) had some of the best I've had.

            New Ma's
            1477 Plymouth Street, Mountain View, CA 94043
            (650) 960-0268

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            New Ma's
            1477 Plymouth Street, Mountain View, CA 94043

            1. tanspace RE: david kaplan Mar 25, 2008 10:32 PM

              Joy's knife-shaved is pretty classic, with varying degrees of thinness and thickness in a single, shorter strand of the noodle. This is made by the classic holding the ball of dough in one hand and shaving it with a knife with the other hand. This is exactly the way it is made in Taiwan.

              Darda's version (and other QingZhen / Islamic Halal restaurants such as Fatima's and Peking Eastern House) are usually longer and the thickness of the noodles are more even. So I suspect that due to their popularity, the noodles are shaved/cut with a more factory produciton approach where they can churn out a lot more noodles at one time. Hence the difference in shape and consistency of the noodles between Joy's and others.

              Also, if visiting Peking Eastern House, make sure to order the stir-fried pancake. (Not sure the exact menu name). It is the specialty of the restaurant and may not be found in any other place in the bay area. It is a take on another Shandong homestyle dish. Instead of actual noodles, it uses previously cooked (green onion-like) pancake and chops them into strands to be used like noodles. So the thickness is almost udon-like with extra good chewiness. However, I've found it to be on the salty side, so you may want to ask them to be light on the soy.

              As for New Ma's in Mountain View, that place has been closed for awhile and have been replaced by at least one, if not a second establishment.

              -t

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