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  <title>APRIL COOKBOOK of the Month - Run-Off Voting</title>
  <published_at>Mon Mar 24 21:42:29 -0700 2008</published_at>
  <post_count>72</post_count>
  <board>
    <id>31</id>
    <name>Home Cooking</name>
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    <post>
      <post>
        <level>0</level>
        <id>3524555</id>
        <content>Okay, so I've tallied as best I could given that there was LOTS of chatting going on about this book or that.  Here are the tallies.

Vote for ONE and I'll count the votes and announce the COTM for April on Wednesday, March 26th.

I have set out for voting only the top vote getters.  Lots of books got 2 or 3 votes and I'll mention them, but they obviously aren't going to win unless many folks have a change of heart.  Here are the votes in order:

BABBO and MOLTO ITALIANO:  16 votes

FLEXITARIAN:  12 votes

ROAST CHICKEN AND OTHER STORIES:  7 votes

BISTRO COOKING (P. Wells):  4 votes

THINK LIKE A CHEF:  4

Several times I was unclear whether a poster was voting for a certain book or just mentioning it.  Some mentioned books (mainly Deborah Madison and other Veg. cookbooks that they said would be best in summer months when produce was plentiful).

These got no more than 3 votes:  

SEDUCTIONS OF RICE, SWEET MYRTLE AND BITTER HONEY, DELICIOSO, AT HOME IN PROVENCE, MORO COOKBOOK, CASA MORO, YAMUNA'S TABLE, PLEASURES OF VIETNAMESE TABLE, A NEW WAY TO COOK, BISTRO COOKING AT HOME, BALTHAZAR, THINK LIKE A CHEF.

So vote and make it snappy!  I want to post the final on Wednesday.</content>
        <published_at>Mon Mar 24 21:42:29 -0700 2008</published_at>
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        <user>
          <id>10245</id>
          <name>oakjoan</name>
        </user>
      </post>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>3524564</id>
      <content>Out of those - FLEXITARIAN TABLE

EDIT: I just found out I am losing my copy from the library (too many requests to renew another month), and I don't love the book enough to buy it, so cancel that vote. I will just let the cards fall where they may and then see if I can do the cookbook. </content>
      <published_at>Mon Mar 24 21:45:16 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3524555</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>15001</id>
        <name>jsaimd</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>3524644</id>
      <content>Okay, jsaimd.  I won't count your Flex vote.</content>
      <published_at>Mon Mar 24 22:25:01 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3524564</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10245</id>
        <name>oakjoan</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>3528194</id>
      <content>This voting thing is REALLY WEIRD!  Batali and Flex got quite a lot of votes more than the next books- I mean "a lot" in terms of our small community.  Now, all of a sudden, Roast Chicken and Think Like a Chef have the most votes.  Batali has 2 and Flex only 1.

What gives?  Did all those who voted for those books go on vacation to Bermuda yesterday?  Was there a scathing article about Batali and Flex in The National Enquirer?

</content>
      <published_at>Tue Mar 25 21:14:06 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3524564</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10245</id>
        <name>oakjoan</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>3528254</id>
      <content>I thought it was odd, too!  Maybe it is about availability.  Once you put out this thread with the final list to choose from, I checked to see which ones I could actually get.  Maybe people can't access the ones they originally picked?  Either that, or they realized a different book had more recipes that appealed to them for this time of year?  I was going to vote against the one I ended voting for, except that I went and checked, and it did have stuff for me to make in it for our current season.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Mar 25 21:36:50 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3528194</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>166172</id>
        <name>saltwater</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>3528355</id>
      <content>I thought Batali was much more popular too, but in reading through the suggestion thread, a lot of people mentioned Batali listed with other book suggestions. I even jumped the gun and made Risotto al Barolo from "Molto Italiano" last night (soooo good BTW), and bought Sardinian couscous to make the saffron fregola with clams.   Oh well.  Ha - my husband was so excited we might be doing Italian after all the Sichuan cooking.  

I'm torn because I'm REALLY trying to limit my obsessive cookbook-buying, and so I'm voting for what I already own.  Hmmm, but I also have "Think Like a Chef", and "Pleasures of the Vietnamese Table"...or should I just convince myself to buy "Roast Chicken"....and "Sweet Myrtle and Bitter Honey" sounds great ...but then I've always wanted to do a "Moro" book too.  ; ) 

Looking forward to seeing where this vote goes.  </content>
      <published_at>Tue Mar 25 22:43:54 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3528254</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10271</id>
        <name>Rubee</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>5</level>
      <id>3528533</id>
      <content>Rubee - I'm trying to limit my obsessive cookbook buying too - but it's not really working at the moment! And I don't think taking part in COTM is going to help!

*looks at Amazon wishlist again*</content>
      <published_at>Wed Mar 26 03:00:41 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3528355</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>110146</id>
        <name>greedygirl</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>5</level>
      <id>3528562</id>
      <content>Rubee - that recipe sounds similar to one in Sweet Myrtle (which makes sense since it's Sardinian):

http://www.chowhound.com/topics/460138#3120886 - there's a photo in the first post  </content>
      <published_at>Wed Mar 26 04:12:02 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3528355</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10985</id>
        <name>MMRuth</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>6</level>
      <id>3529591</id>
      <content>Darn it MMRuth.  All that link did is make me want to buy the book now ; )  Those pictures look fantastic.  </content>
      <published_at>Wed Mar 26 10:00:12 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3528562</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10271</id>
        <name>Rubee</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>5</level>
      <id>3530189</id>
      <content>Eeek! I almost missed this thread altogether.  When I'm busy I don't check in every day, or I only check the threads I'm already active on.
Maybe you could leave a close-out notice and trail of breadcrumbs from the suggestions/negotiations thread to the actual voting.

I count only 7 votes for Batali in the negotiations thread (love that, TDQ), from many of us who mention other books as well. I think the 16 votes must be from multiple mentions or something, as we discussed which Batali books.
I just returned Roast Chicken to the library, but wouldn't mind seeing it as com. And one of these days, I'd love the hive to descend on Batali. Now, I'm just confused. And excited that more than one other person wants Pleasures of the Vietnamese Table.
er......
BATALI : MOLTO ITALIANO + BABBO
</content>
      <published_at>Wed Mar 26 12:36:25 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3528355</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>11989</id>
        <name>pitu</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>5</level>
      <id>3530688</id>
      <content>This message appears several messages below the one to which I'm responding.

Re:  Rubie's post on March 25th .  I ONLY counted capitalized votes and ignored discussions or mentions of books.  If people capitalized 2 books, I counted both since I didn't want to be sending clarification messages to those folks.  

It may be that folks voted on a whim and now haven't come back to vote in the run-off.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Mar 26 14:31:11 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3528355</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10245</id>
        <name>oakjoan</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>3528575</id>
      <content>These last two months (I don't know if this is always the case...), the "nomination" thread has seemed more like a "negotiation" thread to me...I was one of the early supporters of Flex Table in the nomination thread, but, by the end of the thread, it seemed like there were a lot of people who found the book uninspiring.  I think part of what made the Dunlop books so fun is that we had a high level of participation and I would hope for a similar level of participation this month.  Roast Chicken emerged late in the nomination process and one thing that I learned in the nomination thread is that our UK 'hounds  and North America 'hounds don't have access to all the same cookbooks. I like that Roast Chicken is more inclusive since it's available more widely.

As for Mario, it was never my very first choice, but so many people seemed interested in it last month AND this month, that I was happy to go for it, too if it was many people's first choice.

Also, to address something you said above in your OP oakjoan, I might have been one of the votes that was discussing Vegetarian Cooking for Everyone in the nomination thread, but only in lowercase so not to be counted as a vote. I really, really want to do that book, but not until July, ideally, or June at the earliest.  The ground has been frozen in the Upper Midwest since November and will stay so until mid to late April. Our vegetables look tired and pathetic (or are shipped green from afar) until about June, when we get about four weeks of baby greens. In July, we have a vegetable explosion and I'm so overflowing with veggies from my CSA that I am actually stressed out at the prospect of not knowing how to use it all!  Anyway, my apologies if my lower case discussion of that cookbook made it difficult for you to count the votes.

Finally, I too have a cookbook addiction.  I really want to buy Roast Chicken, but, do I need it?  For me, "need" means, will I cook from it after COTM comes and goes?  Bad/good  news: I had a mishap with my Dunlop library books (bad), so they are mine now, too (good).  http://www.chowhound.com/topics/496285#3465287

Sorry for the long post.

~TDQ

</content>
      <published_at>Wed Mar 26 04:27:16 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3528194</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>12005</id>
        <name>The Dairy Queen</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>3529711</id>
      <content>Actually, just had a quick browse through Amazon and a some of the  American books do seem to be available here, albeit with just one copy, and quite pricy.  I'm pretty sure I won't be able to get them in the library though. :-)

On the other hand, you can get Roast Chicken on t'internet here for &#163;3.  A bargain even at the current exchange rate!</content>
      <published_at>Wed Mar 26 10:29:10 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3528575</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>110146</id>
        <name>greedygirl</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>3524833</id>
      <content>My vote is for ROAST CHICKEN AND OTHER STORIES.  I'm not sure I'll be able to get hold of the American ones  in the library - or at a reasonable price over here in Blighty.  And I've been meaning to cook more from this book anyway....</content>
      <published_at>Tue Mar 25 02:37:38 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3524555</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>110146</id>
        <name>greedygirl</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>3524839</id>
      <content>THINK LIKE A CHEF I've already ordered it from the library based on comments I read in the previous thread.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Mar 25 02:57:35 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3524555</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>18353</id>
        <name>DGresh</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>3524869</id>
      <content>ROAST CHICKEN AND OTHER STORIES gets my vote (what a surprise - grin).  Thanks oakjoan - sorry for all the chat!!</content>
      <published_at>Tue Mar 25 04:17:30 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3524555</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10985</id>
        <name>MMRuth</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>3524900</id>
      <content>My vote goes to SWEET MYRTLE &amp; BITTER HONEY.  It just looks so interesting and we haven't done a Mediterranean book -- and Sardinia no less.  It's like Italian w/ a lively new twist!  Who's ever cooked that cuisine??  It seems perfect for COTM.

Mario, so old already, and we've done Italian; I can do Italian in my sleep.  Won't object if Ruth's Roast Chicken wins.  Why not Flexitarian for me?  I *do* want it to be COTM, but it's by season and in the northeast April is barely Spring and winter vegetables are so old.
Chat we did!!  and it was fun!  </content>
      <published_at>Tue Mar 25 05:03:52 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3524555</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>33755</id>
        <name>NYchowcook</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>3524915</id>
      <content>ROAST CHICKEN AND OTHER STORIES.

Note to NYchowcook.... It was a tossup for me between  Sweet Myrtle and Roast Chicken.  I've already added RC&amp;OS to my cookbook library and am going to get the SSM&amp;BH this week... we can do our own mini-cotm as MMR does.  LOL</content>
      <published_at>Tue Mar 25 05:19:50 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3524900</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>75332</id>
        <name>Gio</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>3524935</id>
      <content>"we can do our own mini-cotm as MMR does" 

Just to clarify - this refers to a little joke I made on another thread about when I start a thread about a cookbook I've been cooking from and post about the recipes I've tried - I referred to it as "my mini COTM" in reply to Gio's query about whether or not a book had been a COTM.  It's not meant to take away from COTM in any way.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Mar 25 05:31:58 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3524915</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10985</id>
        <name>MMRuth</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>3524945</id>
      <content>Oh goodness... I didn't mean to take anything away from COTM!!!  Which ever book wins for April that's the book I'll cook from.  We cook from the Main book extensively, but like to break it up, so to speak, during the month with other recipes.....

Sorry for the interruption oakjoan!!!</content>
      <published_at>Tue Mar 25 05:38:31 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3524935</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>75332</id>
        <name>Gio</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>5</level>
      <id>3525280</id>
      <content>I know you didn't - just wanted to clarify for others ;-).</content>
      <published_at>Tue Mar 25 07:45:31 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3524945</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10985</id>
        <name>MMRuth</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>3524948</id>
      <content>I try to do that too, MMRuth, but I think of it as my personal COTM.  

I'm really torn as to which book to vote for. I think I would be happy with any of them. My library doesn't have Think Like a Chef and Roast Chicken is checked out.  I have the others on hold.  I actually don't think Flex Table is that vegetable intensive--I think more of the creativity is around the starch and the protein-- and, frankly, would rather do Vegetarian Cooking for Everyone than Flex Table in mid summer, say, July, once the CSAs and Farmers Markets start hopping in the Upper Midwest. (The frozen ground doesn't even thaw here until mid-April, which means June is the earliest we see anything local and fresh and, even then, it's mostly baby greens.  July is when we start to get some real variety...)  So, if we're going to do Flex Table, I'd rather do it now, just to get it out of the way, then do a truly-vegetable focused cookbook in mid-summer.

Anyway, I will come back and vote later today once I agonize over my choices. 

~TDQ</content>
      <published_at>Tue Mar 25 05:39:27 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3524935</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>12005</id>
        <name>The Dairy Queen</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>3535633</id>
      <content>NYChowcook:

Actually, we've done a Mediterranean book in the past couple of months:  Slow Mediterranean by Paula Wolfert.  Just to put the record straight.</content>
      <published_at>Thu Mar 27 21:34:20 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3524900</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10245</id>
        <name>oakjoan</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>3524999</id>
      <content>BISTRO COOKING 
          OR
PLEASURES OF THE VIETNAMESE TABLE (I really prefer this for a hot weather month, the food is more suited to hot weather)</content>
      <published_at>Tue Mar 25 06:07:50 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3524555</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10285</id>
        <name>Candy</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>3525207</id>
      <content>ROAST CHICKEN AND OTHER STORIES

I'd still love to do a bistro book at some point and am curious about "Think Like a Chef." I just took a look and there's only one copy of TLaC in the whole NYC library system and I'm number 12 on the waiting list. Maybe we could plug it in for November--which is about when I ought to be able to get my hands on it. That is, if I'm lucky and they don't lose it first. LOL.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Mar 25 07:20:18 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3524555</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>11407</id>
        <name>JoanN</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>3525314</id>
      <content>THINK LIKE A CHEF, please.

Note to oakjoan: You have TLaC listed w/ 4 votes as well as under the "no more than 3 votes" category. </content>
      <published_at>Tue Mar 25 07:54:28 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3524555</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10371</id>
        <name>Carb Lover</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>3527696</id>
      <content>CL:

What's your point?  ;+)

Sorry.  I did this late last night.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Mar 25 18:23:24 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3525314</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10245</id>
        <name>oakjoan</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>3530749</id>
      <content>Carb Lover:  I didn't notice til now, but I also have it in the run-off list.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Mar 26 14:51:23 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3525314</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10245</id>
        <name>oakjoan</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>3525484</id>
      <content>THINK LIKE A CHEF gets my vote this time.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Mar 25 08:33:03 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3524555</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>123744</id>
        <name>karykat</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>3525601</id>
      <content>SWEET MYRTLE AND BITTER HONEY
Thank you!</content>
      <published_at>Tue Mar 25 09:02:12 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3524555</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>11225</id>
        <name>rabaja</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>3525926</id>
      <content>PLEASURES OF THE VIETNAMESE TABLE
or
THINK LIKE A CHEF
please</content>
      <published_at>Tue Mar 25 10:17:31 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3524555</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>20128</id>
        <name>morebubbles</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>3526166</id>
      <content>BATALI - MOLTO ITALIANO and THE BABBO COOKBOOOK</content>
      <published_at>Tue Mar 25 11:10:01 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3524555</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10271</id>
        <name>Rubee</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>3527020</id>
      <content>BATALI - MOLTO ITALIANO and THE BABBO COOKBOOOK</content>
      <published_at>Tue Mar 25 14:32:23 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3524555</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>11028</id>
        <name>DanaB</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>3527092</id>
      <content>FLEXITARIAN, though I am interested in the Vietnamese book, but can't get my claws on it at this moment.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Mar 25 14:46:31 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3524555</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>166172</id>
        <name>saltwater</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>3527773</id>
      <content>ROAST CHICKEN AND OTHER STORIES

(Thanks again, oakjoan, and yes, I like your plan to start the voting earlier in future months.)

~TDQ</content>
      <published_at>Tue Mar 25 18:50:03 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3524555</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>12005</id>
        <name>The Dairy Queen</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>3528322</id>
      <content>ROAST CHICKEN, please!  I bought it last month on a whim, so will be excited to try it out.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Mar 25 22:18:58 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3524555</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>13525</id>
        <name>JasmineG</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>3528367</id>
      <content>FLEXITARIAN

(And if we get a second vote, since I see some people are listing two, then BISTRO COOKING.)</content>
      <published_at>Tue Mar 25 22:50:46 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3524555</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>19542</id>
        <name>Karen_Schaffer</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>3528435</id>
      <content>Btw, I applaud the idea of making the decision early enough that people have time to track down copies. But with having just 2 days for voting and not knowing in advance when voting would start, there might be folks who don't even know it's going on. I just happened to check tonight, for instance.  Maybe that's what's happened to all the Batali and Flex supporters.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Mar 25 23:51:07 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3528367</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>19542</id>
        <name>Karen_Schaffer</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>3528430</id>
      <content>FLEXITARIAN TABLE</content>
      <published_at>Tue Mar 25 23:48:58 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3524555</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>167705</id>
        <name>ae.bell</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>3530422</id>
      <content>FLEXITARIAN TABLE</content>
      <published_at>Wed Mar 26 13:25:12 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3524555</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>11995</id>
        <name>pikawicca</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>3530462</id>
      <content>MOLTO ITALIANO</content>
      <published_at>Wed Mar 26 13:36:48 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3530422</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>12618</id>
        <name>erica</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>3530741</id>
      <content>This is making me grumpy.  I guess I should have just left out the names of the books with 3 or fewer votes, but I wanted to keep things out in the open so folks could see how the voting went in general.

A run-off is not another go round of ALL the same books (or almost all in this case) in the original post.  The candidates with few votes get bumped and the choice becomes one of the remaining books.  So, I meant to have the voting include ONLY the books at the top of the message.  The "3 votes or fewer" category was for informational purposes only.

The voting so far, taking out SWEET MYRTLE (3 or fewer votes in orig post), is as follows:

BATALI = 4

FLEX = 4

ROAST CHICK = 5

THINK LIKE A YOU KNOW WHAT = 4

I'M GOING TO GIVE THE VOTING UNTIL THURSDAY NIGHT, since I really think that 13 votes shouldn't determine a cookbook of the month.....unless we get no more votes and then ROAST CHICKEN will win.

</content>
      <published_at>Wed Mar 26 14:48:50 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3524555</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10245</id>
        <name>oakjoan</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>3530754</id>
      <content>Thank you for all of your hard work, oakjoan. I hope your grumpiness passes soon!

~TDQ</content>
      <published_at>Wed Mar 26 14:52:45 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3530741</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>12005</id>
        <name>The Dairy Queen</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>3530763</id>
      <content>Oh, it will...after a few bottles of whiskey!</content>
      <published_at>Wed Mar 26 14:55:11 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3530754</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10245</id>
        <name>oakjoan</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>3530827</id>
      <content>Sorry, I misunderstood!
BATALI, please.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Mar 26 15:16:37 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3530763</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>11225</id>
        <name>rabaja</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>5</level>
      <id>3530856</id>
      <content>No problem.  I didn't explain enough!  Thanks.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Mar 26 15:25:47 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3530827</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10245</id>
        <name>oakjoan</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>3530931</id>
      <content>Okay, okay.  (I'm one of those miscreants who didn't follow your directions -- though not intentionally :)

I'll vote for ROAST CHICKEN.  
I like Flexitarian but since I'm in between seasons and the book is by the seasons, I want to pass for April.   Maybe May??  
I just don't want to cook w/ Mario.  Been there, done that.

Please consider Sweet Myrtle and Bitter Honey for another month.
You're the best oakjoan!</content>
      <published_at>Wed Mar 26 15:52:39 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3530741</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>33755</id>
        <name>NYchowcook</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>3530956</id>
      <content>ROAST CHICKEN, please.  And thank you.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Mar 26 15:59:00 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3530931</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>24075</id>
        <name>onefineleo</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>3530980</id>
      <content>oakjoan - If I were nearby, I'd drop by a bottle of your favorite whisky for you, promise!

I think there was one vote for Bistro Cooking above (Candy?), which I think brings us up to a total of 18 votes, plus the ones below your post that I'm replying to.

Ducking for cover now (well, actually, for once - my fault, not his - husband making dinner so will go check things out, with mouth firmly closed other than for wine sipping!).  Hope I've not been too much of a PITA in all this!!</content>
      <published_at>Wed Mar 26 16:08:10 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3530741</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10985</id>
        <name>MMRuth</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>3531783</id>
      <content>MMR:  At first I thought you were saying you hoped you weren't too much of a People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals....then I saw it was an I, not an E.

You could NEVER be a PITA as far as I'm concerned.  

Most of the trouble here was caused by my confusing post.

PS:  I just made the Yueyang Hot-Dry Noodles and Peppers with Black Beans and Garlic for the third....or is it fourth time.  Those salted chiles certainly make it sing.

My husband keeps saying "I could eat this every night!"  I don't know if I'd go that far, but they sure are great.
</content>
      <published_at>Wed Mar 26 21:09:03 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3530980</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10245</id>
        <name>oakjoan</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>3532165</id>
      <content>oakjoan, you're doing a great job.  It's so hard to anticipate the multiple ways one's writing could be interpreted in situations like this.  Plus, lots of people read and post on the fly (as I often do) and don't always pick up on details and nuances and such. 

Anyway, I'm very eager to learn the results of the voting. I received notification from my library that my Batali and Roast chicken books are in. I'll pick them up tonight and, as soon as we know the results, I will start choosing some recipes. Yay!

~TDQ</content>
      <published_at>Thu Mar 27 05:20:15 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3531783</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>12005</id>
        <name>The Dairy Queen</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>3533590</id>
      <content>FLEXITARIAN TABLE (with a second place vote going to BISTRO COOKING).</content>
      <published_at>Thu Mar 27 11:30:50 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3524555</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>56762</id>
        <name>LulusMom</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>3535173</id>
      <content>Oh dear.  I've just picked up my copy of Roast Chicken from the library.  I'm more than halfway through the book and have only found 1-2 recipes that will be able to fit into my current diet regimen.   Perhaps there are more recipes in the second half of the book that will fit into my program, but, I'm not counting it. The recipes sound heavenly, but I might have to participate vicariously through the rest of you this month,  as I'm not sure how possible to adapt these recipes.  I still plan to read the book, though, as I can still enjoy his dry humor.  I don't know if it's possible --or fair at this late stage--to undo my vote, but if my one vote was somehow the deciding vote in determining the winner, perhaps it should be withdrawn.

~TDQ</content>
      <published_at>Thu Mar 27 18:24:20 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3533590</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>12005</id>
        <name>The Dairy Queen</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>3535202</id>
      <content>TDQ- I'd be interested in your opinion. Embarrassingly, I am not really familiar with any of these books in the running and I know there are a few participating in the current COTM who are trying to watch their intake. Not that I would ever want to, or even suggest that dietary preferences be part of the equation for a COTM selection, but out of personal curiosity do you feel any of the proposed selections lean toward that dietary bent?</content>
      <published_at>Thu Mar 27 18:34:00 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3535173</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>17937</id>
        <name>Food4Thought</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>3535251</id>
      <content>Well, I did encouragingly just find a couple more recipes (in the peppers, salmon, and scallops section of Roast Chicken...) so, maybe the second half of the book is friendlier than the first half. So, maybe there will be a couple more I could make and have fit within my diet... 

My copy of Bistro Cooking (P. Wells) hasn't arrived yet and they don't have Think Like a Chef in my library, so, I can't speak to those two at all. 

When I thought there was a chance Molto Italiano was going to be the COTM last month, I had selected several of those recipes that I thought could be easily adapted. I haven't had a chance to look at Babbo yet, but, I'm guessing it will be similar, though, that's just a guess.  

I think Flexitarian Table could be be a good choice if you're trying to shift towards more legumes, tofu, and whole grains. There's still a few duck and lamb recipes in there and he calls for butter, too, so it's certainly not a diet book by any means.

I'll bet none of those have the same wit that the Hopkinson book features...

Those are just my superficial impressions.

I hope that helps.

~TDQ

</content>
      <published_at>Thu Mar 27 18:49:04 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3535202</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>12005</id>
        <name>The Dairy Queen</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>5</level>
      <id>3535364</id>
      <content>ONLY 4.5 MORE HOURS TO VOTE!!!!
</content>
      <published_at>Thu Mar 27 19:23:29 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3535251</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10245</id>
        <name>oakjoan</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>5</level>
      <id>3535572</id>
      <content>I was re-reading my copy of Roast Chicken today, and was thinking that it wouldn't be great for those of us who are on diets.  Did you see the cod with lentils recipe, TDQ?

I have Bistro Cooking, and it's a classically French book so not exactly light on the old butter and cream.  Probably not quite so rich as Hopkinson though.  </content>
      <published_at>Thu Mar 27 20:59:25 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3535251</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>110146</id>
        <name>greedygirl</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>6</level>
      <id>3535920</id>
      <content>greedygirl, please see my reply here: http://www.chowhound.com/topics/500030#3536031
~TDQ</content>
      <published_at>Fri Mar 28 03:58:54 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3535572</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>12005</id>
        <name>The Dairy Queen</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>3535373</id>
      <content>After some more research and the fact that Top Chef is a guilty pleasure, I'd cast my vote for THINK LIKE A YOU KNOW WHAT.</content>
      <published_at>Thu Mar 27 19:28:05 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3524555</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>17937</id>
        <name>Food4Thought</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>3535645</id>
      <content>You know I really love all you guys, but the discussions on this runoff voting thread are making me a little nuts.  I search for, e.g., "Batali" or "Flex" and a great number of the mentions come up in discussion and are not votes.  So I have to scroll down carefully to check for ALL CAPS.  I think we should start to limit discussion in the runoff message, and keep it concentrated on voting for ONE book.  </content>
      <published_at>Thu Mar 27 21:42:58 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3535373</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10245</id>
        <name>oakjoan</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>3535926</id>
      <content>Sorry oakjoan.  Speaking for myself, I'm just excited for the outcome and keep checking back whenever there are new posts to see what other folks are thinking . This will be my last post in this thread.  Good luck with counting your votes and whatever COTM you all end up doing--lots of wonderful possibilities there, and those are just the ones I've had a chance to look at!

~TDQ</content>
      <published_at>Fri Mar 28 04:02:08 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3535645</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>12005</id>
        <name>The Dairy Queen</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>3538039</id>
      <content>FLEXITARIAN!!!!!</content>
      <published_at>Fri Mar 28 13:22:56 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3535926</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>78552</id>
        <name>bite bite</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>3538218</id>
      <content>OKAY...HEEEEEEEEEEERE'S THE Cookbook of the Month for April:

ROAST CHICKEN AND OTHER STORIES with 8 votes.

Runners-up were Flexitarian with 6, and Batali and Think with 5.

Ladeeeeeeez and Gentlemen start your blenders!</content>
      <published_at>Fri Mar 28 13:56:29 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3524555</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10245</id>
        <name>oakjoan</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>3538416</id>
      <content>OMGoodness.  I just got my copy delivered from Jessica's.  But does anyone think the printing is reeeeeely, reeeeeely small.  Or do I just need new glasses?</content>
      <published_at>Fri Mar 28 14:39:32 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3538218</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>75332</id>
        <name>Gio</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>3538511</id>
      <content>I don't need reading glasses (yet) but yes, it is a little small.   And of course, the instructions are in the format that I tend to associate with English cookbooks - paragraph form.</content>
      <published_at>Fri Mar 28 15:06:56 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3538416</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10985</id>
        <name>MMRuth</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>3538755</id>
      <content>I think the size is inviting.  Sort of like a novel by a favorite author that you buy in trade paperback size or somehow get in a readers copy.</content>
      <published_at>Fri Mar 28 16:25:55 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3538511</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>166172</id>
        <name>saltwater</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>5</level>
      <id>3539164</id>
      <content>Well I just finished plowing through the book, and I must say he really does use quite a bit of butter and cream.  But I did find some chapters I can work with.  Eggplant, of course, chicken, leeks....I'm  definitely going to make the calves liver, and try to get DH to eat the kidneys.  We'll see how far I  get with that.  Nice that he included an Elizabeth David recipe, too!

 I put tabs on the pages I want to re-read....I love  the complicated sauces described simply, and he does like Ricky Stein, as he calls him.  A man after my own heart, is Mr. Hopkinson.  One or two Dunlop recipes, then I'll start in on SH.</content>
      <published_at>Fri Mar 28 19:00:32 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3538755</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>75332</id>
        <name>Gio</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>6</level>
      <id>3539459</id>
      <content>Gio:

I love Ricky Stein, too.  Hadn't thought of him in a long time.  Watched his show on public TV about 10 years ago - from his restaurant in Padstow (or however you spell it).  Inspiring.  Never got his cookbook (or perhaps books), but will look around for them now.</content>
      <published_at>Fri Mar 28 21:02:47 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3539164</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10245</id>
        <name>oakjoan</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>7</level>
      <id>3539635</id>
      <content>He's got a ton of books now, but I'd go for the first one, Taste of the Sea, if you can find it. </content>
      <published_at>Fri Mar 28 23:04:33 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3539459</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>110146</id>
        <name>greedygirl</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>7</level>
      <id>3539818</id>
      <content>I like Rick(y) Stein's Complete Seafood.  I don't take it out of the bookshelf often, but it's a handy reference and sometimes inspiring recipes.</content>
      <published_at>Sat Mar 29 04:48:10 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3539459</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>33755</id>
        <name>NYchowcook</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>3539470</id>
      <content>Chowfolks:

Well, we have a winner:  April COTM is Roast Chicken and Other Stories by Hopkinson.  If there are any of his recipes available on line, I'm sure one of our netrecipe hounds will find them and post accordingly.</content>
      <published_at>Fri Mar 28 21:07:10 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3524555</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10245</id>
        <name>oakjoan</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>3539634</id>
      <content>He used to write a food column for a national newspaper (The Independent), so there's bound to be a ton of recipes online.  </content>
      <published_at>Fri Mar 28 23:03:46 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3539470</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>110146</id>
        <name>greedygirl</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>3539829</id>
      <content>http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/simon-hopkinson-the-reluctant-chef-502613.html
That's a link to his bio....a really intersting career and life story of Mr. Hopkinson.</content>
      <published_at>Sat Mar 29 04:56:42 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3539634</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>75332</id>
        <name>Gio</name>
      </user>
    </post>
  </posts>
</topic>
