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NOLA resident - where do you eat?

mpls rsrch Mar 18, 2008 09:56 AM

Looking for some awesome dives in NOLA - the kind the locals know and love and the tourists overlook. Please advise..

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    localfoodie RE: mpls rsrch Mar 18, 2008 11:56 AM

    I eat at G&B Grill all the time on South Carrolton, their burger rivals pot of call without the tourist mark up.

    We also eat a t domilise's every other Saturday, best shrimp po-boy in town. Belle castle and annuciation.

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      bg1811 RE: mpls rsrch Mar 18, 2008 12:51 PM

      I eat (and have for many years) at Venezia's on Carrolton. You can ride the "City Park" streetcar out Canal Street. It will make a right turn onto Carrolton Ave. and Venezia's will be in the first block after the turn. Very convenient.

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        Carrolltonsnob RE: bg1811 Mar 18, 2008 12:58 PM

        Really? what do you get?
        I went recently and the place was packed, with a 20 min wait, and when we got our food it was one notch below mediocre. I had an eggplant dish with seafood, hubby had something else- don't remember. I'm not going back.

        Is it popular because it's the only italian restaurant in the area? I just don't get it.

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          bg1811 RE: Carrolltonsnob Mar 18, 2008 01:20 PM

          Do you think since the place was packed and you had a 20 minute wait says something? I just eat plain dishes there like spaghetti and meatballs, house salads, and pizza. After you finish, if you have room, you can walk about a 1/4 block to Angelo Brocato's Ice Cream Parlor. I think you should give them another try.

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            Carrolltonsnob RE: bg1811 Mar 18, 2008 01:36 PM

            The fact that it was packed was a BIG MYSTERY to me. Since then I've asked a couple of other people (in person) what the draw was and what I was missing. They agreed at the oddness of the whole thing. The place is always packed but the food isn't that good. I think this is an example of LOCATION LOCATION LOCATION.

            There are too many restaurants in this city to go back to one that wasn't good- sorry.

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              Uncle Bob RE: Carrolltonsnob Mar 18, 2008 02:19 PM

              Speaking in general terms, not this establishment necessarily...
              REPUTATION, REPUTATION, REPUTATION!! is a factor....be it good...or bad.

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                Hungry Celeste RE: Uncle Bob Mar 19, 2008 06:45 AM

                I don't get Venezia, either. The food is borderline bad, the pizza's terrible. Too many other good places in town to keep going back. I think it survives on nostalgia alone.

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                  HalfShell RE: Hungry Celeste Mar 19, 2008 12:36 PM

                  Venezia's is popular because it's from another time--where ladies have big blue hair and ask "how's your mama," and little kids in Catholic school uniforms sullenly pick at garlic bread while their parents talk local politics. People go there because they've always gone there. Generally I'm OK with the "foodie" ascendancy, but there are restaurants that should be exempt from nitpicky foodie protestations. Venezia's food isn't special, but it's an iconic family restaurant, a New Orleans tradition. If it tinkered with its menu and attempted more "authentic" Italian, I'd cry foul. There are unquantifiable charms to places like this (and many others in New Orleans) that a foodie does not have the vocabulary to describe or understand. There are cities flush with cash that are buying their restaurant cultures wholesale that can NEVER reproduce restaurants like Venezia's, Domilise's or Galatoire's. I realize this is a board where we talk about food only, but maybe that's the problem. In New Orleans, if you really know the city, the food is only ever half of the picture.

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                    localfoodie RE: HalfShell Mar 19, 2008 12:54 PM


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                      ana210 RE: HalfShell Mar 19, 2008 02:02 PM

                      Very well said, HalfShell.

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                  JazzyB RE: Carrolltonsnob Mar 18, 2008 03:14 PM

                  It's the nicest pizza dining room in the city.

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                    chef4hire RE: Carrolltonsnob Mar 19, 2008 10:02 AM


                    I'm with you- we ordered pizza from Venezia's and it was totally inedible (quite difficult to do to a pizza) the cheese and sauce never cooked or something- it was like pizza soup

                    long lines or not we will never go back

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                      Carrolltonsnob RE: chef4hire Mar 19, 2008 10:19 AM

                      Glad I'm not alone. I mean if it's your neighborhood place and you like it, great. But don't send the tourists there!

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                    Robert Peyton RE: bg1811 Mar 18, 2008 05:36 PM

                    "Do you think since the place was packed and you had a 20 minute wait says something?"

                    Yes. Inertia is a factor in dining as well as a fundamental principal of physics.

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                    localfoodie RE: Carrolltonsnob Mar 19, 2008 12:53 PM

                    Its actually not the only Italian restaurant in the area Mandina's is only a couple blocks away and Venesia has always been pretty excellent when we've went, maybe it was a bad day

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                    N.O.Food RE: bg1811 Mar 19, 2008 01:42 PM

                    Venezia's = not good.

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                    cor RE: mpls rsrch Mar 18, 2008 02:19 PM

                    Liuzza's by the Track
                    Yo Mama's

                    1. hamsandwich RE: mpls rsrch Mar 18, 2008 09:25 PM

                      At least once a month I will find myself at Kyoto for sushi (the Sarah Rolls are the BOMB), Cafe Granada (newish tapas place on Carrollton where I have yet to try a bad tapa), Angelo Brocato's, and Roman's Pizza (technically delivery; I think it's the best pizza in New Orleans, no lie). Several nights a month I end the night with some eats at either 13 Monaghan on Frenchmen or Clover Grill. At 13 they have these incredible things called Tater Tachos which are nachos made with tater tots instead of tortilla chips.

                      Now that we're getting in season, I'll pick up a couple pounds of crawfish at Big Fisherman every other week or so.

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                        Clarkafella RE: mpls rsrch Mar 18, 2008 09:36 PM

                        I am a tourist, not a native; but I would be willing to bet that the plate lunch at Matassa's on Dauphine would fit your criteria...

                        1. Panama Hat RE: mpls rsrch Mar 19, 2008 06:15 AM

                          Mandina's and Liuzza's are both good neighborhood restaurants. Mandina's is right on the Canal trolley line and Liuzza's is about 3 blocks away on Bienville.

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                            speyerer RE: Panama Hat Mar 19, 2008 08:22 AM

                            Mandina's and Liuzza's are both great neighborhood restaurants with a real New Orleans feel about them. But on the Canal trolley line?? San Francisco has a trolly. New Orleans has Street Cars. :)

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                              Hungry Celeste RE: speyerer Mar 19, 2008 08:27 AM

                              Okay, technically it's a streetcar. But it does roll right in front of Mandina's, and you can follow up with a short stroll to Brocato's for dessert.

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                                speyerer RE: Hungry Celeste Mar 19, 2008 08:33 AM

                                Angelo Brocato's is a great choice Celeste. Not too many tourists know about it. Good suggestion.

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                                  nospice RE: speyerer Mar 19, 2008 09:12 AM

                                  domilise's I JUST DON'T GET IT.

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                                    jeffchow RE: nospice Mar 19, 2008 01:20 PM

                                    Hot sausage po-boy w/chili gravy...Luv it!

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                                  JerseyNOLA RE: Hungry Celeste Mar 19, 2008 10:59 AM

                                  Huh? and for all these years I thought that San Francisco had cable cars.

                                  . . . . and it just goes to show you, whether one lives in San Francisco, or Jersey or New Orleans, folks have different opinions.

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                                    speyerer RE: JerseyNOLA Mar 19, 2008 03:23 PM

                                    You're correct! Only in Seattle can you ride the South Lake Union Trolley.

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                                      speyerer RE: JerseyNOLA Mar 21, 2008 07:11 AM

                                      San Francisco has the largest trolley-bus fleet of any transit agency in the U.S. and Canada.

                              2. N.O.Food RE: mpls rsrch Mar 20, 2008 06:01 PM

                                Jamila's, Frankie & Johnny's, Sucre, Joey K's, Byblos, Martin Wine Cellar, Kyoto, Sake Cafe, Crepe Nanou, Jasmine Cafe, Crabby Jack's, Parkway Bakery, Casamento's, Nirvana, Salt n Pepper, Hot Wok, 5 happiness, pho tau bay, Guy's Po Boys, Ignatius, Baru, and Clancy's to name a few that I don't see mentioned a lot.

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                                  swampsue RE: mpls rsrch Mar 20, 2008 10:11 PM

                                  Hmm, don't know that they all qualify for dives..Mimi's, Sugar Park, Pho Tau Bay, Kim Son, Felipes, Monas, Bennachin...

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                                    swampsue RE: mpls rsrch Mar 20, 2008 10:15 PM

                                    And I feel guilty for adding this, but I think Pazzos bests Brocato's in gelato, if by no means in tradition, at least in frozen delectable execution. But why would we ever need to choose; let's have the best of both worlds. Just check them Oak streeters out...YUUUUMMMY!

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                                      stvtunlvzn RE: mpls rsrch Mar 22, 2008 09:17 PM

                                      Im not a New Orleans resident but live very close. A decade or two ago a friend of mine took me to Cafe Maspero on Decatur across from Jax brewery and now I never go anywere else. I absolutly love their muffalatta's and sandwiches and they have an awesome seafood platter. I introduced my girlfriend to Maspero two months ago and we tried their French onion soup, their Jambalaya, a muffalatta and a ruben all for under 20 bucks. We both took half our sandwiches home.

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                                        wadelit RE: mpls rsrch Mar 23, 2008 05:43 PM

                                        adolfo's on Frenchman st.

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