Good outside dining in Manhattan?

[Kitamonster]

Coming to New York soon for a girls' weekend and need a place to get great food outdoors so smoking friends can smoke. Good wine list is a must, and small plates to share is a big plus. Thanks in advance for recommendations!

[pacz]

If a restaurants outdoor seating area is large enough, a certian percentage of the seats can be designated as smoking.

http://www.sheckys.com/newyorkcity/se...

[Kitamonster]

I learn something everytime I visit Chowhound :-) Here in Boston even if the restaurant only has one outside table, you can smoke at it. thanks for all the help!

[idia]

You might try calling La Fenice (68th & Broadway) that has a popular outdoor seating area but it wouldn't surprise me if they also said "no smoking."
However, it's worth a try because you can see the world go by. Such fun!

[MMRuth]

Bottega del Vino has some tables outside (not the loveliest block), great Italian wines, not sure if they offer their full menu outside - but the abbreviated menu has great salads and panini. Sitting outside there is probably better at lunch than dinner. Places that cater to Europeans will be your best bet - think Bilbouquet, Charlot, Goulud, etc. Also places in Soho w/ outdoor seating.

[BlueHerons]

Your friends are going to have a hard time finding places to smoke in Manhattan. Many outdoor areas are non smoking as well.

[fein]

i think will4food is correct. they will have to stand on the other side of the fence/wall area that seperates the restaurant from sidewalk.

do you have an area of the city you want to be in?

[Will4Food]

To my knowledge, even restaurants with outdoor seating ban smoking in Manhattan.