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Good outside dining in Manhattan?

Kitamonster Mar 17, 2008 01:06 PM

Coming to New York soon for a girls' weekend and need a place to get great food outdoors so smoking friends can smoke. Good wine list is a must, and small plates to share is a big plus. Thanks in advance for recommendations!

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    Will4Food Mar 17, 2008 01:56 PM

    To my knowledge, even restaurants with outdoor seating ban smoking in Manhattan.

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      fein Mar 17, 2008 02:37 PM

      i think will4food is correct. they will have to stand on the other side of the fence/wall area that seperates the restaurant from sidewalk.

      do you have an area of the city you want to be in?

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        BlueHerons Mar 17, 2008 03:02 PM

        Your friends are going to have a hard time finding places to smoke in Manhattan. Many outdoor areas are non smoking as well.

        1. MMRuth Mar 17, 2008 03:31 PM

          Bottega del Vino has some tables outside (not the loveliest block), great Italian wines, not sure if they offer their full menu outside - but the abbreviated menu has great salads and panini. Sitting outside there is probably better at lunch than dinner. Places that cater to Europeans will be your best bet - think Bilbouquet, Charlot, Goulud, etc. Also places in Soho w/ outdoor seating.

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            pacz Mar 17, 2008 03:32 PM

            If a restaurants outdoor seating area is large enough, a certian percentage of the seats can be designated as smoking.


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            1. re: pacz
              Kitamonster Mar 18, 2008 07:53 AM

              I learn something everytime I visit Chowhound :-) Here in Boston even if the restaurant only has one outside table, you can smoke at it. thanks for all the help!

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                idia Mar 18, 2008 09:10 AM

                You might try calling La Fenice (68th & Broadway) that has a popular outdoor seating area but it wouldn't surprise me if they also said "no smoking."
                However, it's worth a try because you can see the world go by. Such fun!

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