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Mar 16, 2008 01:32 AM

Kinda like In / N / Out but something more

The In/N/Out burger is not unique. There are other places that make basically the same burger but do something more that makes for a good stop. I have listed two places below that make a burger that looks, smells, feels and taste like an In/N/Out burger but wonder whether others exist?

Art's ,The Art of Burgers (Maybe even better meat than In/N/Out, Wed and Sun the burgers are only 99 cents. Try a 3X3. Add chili and it goes well beyond In/N/Out. The menu includes chili dogs, pastrami, breakfast burritos, and a pretty good fish sandwich too)
11629 E. Valley Blvd. (East side of the 10 Fry. on the North Side of Valley Blvd. Look for a building that looks like a original In/N/Out from about fifty years ago. I hear that it was one of the original two-lane drive-thu In/N/Outs)
El Monte CA 91732
(626) 442-7554

Baker's Burgers (What makes this better then a stop at In/N/Out is the real ice cream milk shake – OMG!, I had two of those chocolate shakes with my burger last week. Shame on me)
2555 S Archibald Ave (North side of rchibald Ave at the 10 Fry -- Ontario Airport)
Ontario, CA 91761
(909) 673-0109

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    Pie 'n Burger
    913 E California Blvd, Pasadena, CA 91106

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    1. re: JAB

      This was my thought exactly. Whenever I bite into a Pie N Burger burger, I think to myself that it's the slow food version of a double-double.

      1. re: SauceSupreme

        I agree... it was JUST like an In and Out burger, which steamed me for paying double the price!!


    2. The original drive thru(1940s) In/N/Out was in the next city over in Baldwin Park in the heart of the SGV. It's closed now(in a strange almost museumy kinda of way), but I remember eating there as a kid.

      1. Haven't ahd a burger for several years.. This is the year to break the burger fast.

        I am looking at:

        Billy's Grill

        Father's Office (not a fan of Sang or his ego and crowds, though)

        The Counter

        That one that does the crazy thick multiple patty burgers, NOT in and out)

        Lucky Devil's

        I want big, ooey gooey , no chili, but other yummy toppings, slioppy and not cooked to a lump of coal. Rare is good.

        Any more suggestions?

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        1. re: Diana

          If you're going for a one time burger splurge, I would skip Billy's Grill. It's a decent burger but nothing special.

          I would go with maybe Arnie Morton's or Taylors.

          Surprisingly, Ruby's Diner makes a pretty damn good burger. There is one in Woodland Hills in Topanga plaza. The one I ate at was in Palos Verdes.

          1. re: markn

            I dunno, Arnie Morton's is a chain and I've not heard much about Taylor's.

            I have had bad eperiences with Ruby's Diner. I would want to go for a great burger in LA

            1. re: Diana

              Taylor's is my favorite burger in LA, but it's not a sloppy toppings burger, just a damn good basic one.

              Personally I think both the Counter and Lucky Devil are way overrated. 25 Degrees would probably be a better choice for the pick your own toppings variety.

              1. re: Diana

                The burger at Morton's (only available at lunch) is one of the best, if not the best in LA. It's worlds better than the Counter burger. I'd say that burger or the Father's Office one would be my top choices for breaking your burger fast.

                1. re: Diana

                  Here is my review of the best burger I've ever had, it's Arnie Morton's, don't let the "chain" fool you. A most memorable burger.


                  I'd also second The Bucket, a friend and I split the cardiac, and we both agreed it was terrific. IIRC, they won't ask how you want your burger(normally a problem for me), but we went for it anyway, and weren't sorry, the meat was far from red, but the cardiac as a whole was delish.


              2. re: Diana

                Since you're already a fan of Boneyard Bistro, why not try one of the burgers there? We only had one once but it was quite gigantic (in fact we split it) and had lots of yummy yet not run of the mill toppings. Definitely a knife-and-fork burger. It was well over $20 which was somewhat jaw-dropping especially for the SFV. Takes a lot of balls if you ask me. I had my half with a Guiness.

                I also really like the burger at Bandera at Wilshire/Barrington. Quite delicious and I can eat the whole thing. At Bandera, the burger goes well with a Bombay martini.

                1. re: Debbie W

                  Boneyard bistro is a really good suggestion. Maybe I can get Aaron to build me a special one!

                2. re: Diana

                  Pineapple Hill Saloon on Moorpark at Van Nuys Blvd. I order the Kona burger but order my onions raw (menu provides for grilled onions). They also have good fries and you are not going to get stung with the check. On their hamburger items they are reasonable. Full bar and mediocre house wine.

                3. The sloppiest, messiest, ugliest burger in Southern California is the Cardiac Burger found at the Bucket, which has been raising cholesterol in Eagle Rock since the 1930s. Two huge patties, mayonnaise, lettuce, tomato, pickles, grilled onions, mushrooms, bacon, ham and cheese, served (of course) in a bucket. A disgusting, heartburn-inducing, wonderful hunk of goodness.

                  I haven't been there since they changed hands last year, but if they turned it into an Applebee's I think I would have heard.

                  Catching up on links ...

                  The Bucket
                  4541 Eagle Rock Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90041

                  Baker's Burgers
                  2695 Inland Empire Blvd, Ontario, CA 91764

                  Art's Take Out Burgers
                  11629 Valley Blvd, El Monte, CA 91732

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                  1. re: maxzook

                    THAT sounds more like it. How does it compare to the felxibility of choose yer toppings at the counter?

                    1. re: Diana

                      I had to laugh out loud at the thought of comparing the Counter to the Bucket. Don't get me wrong, I really like the Counter -- in fact, given my attempts at a healthy lifestyle, I'm more likely to eat there nowadays than at the Bucket.

                      Unlike most "gourmet burger" joints such as the Counter, 25 Degrees, Father's Office, Lucky Devils, etc., if the Bucket had any less atmosphere you'd mistake it for a crack house.

                      And there is about as much menu flexibility at the Bucket as there is at Father's Office, with almost as much 'tude, but the similarity ends there. If you want flexibility, go to the Counter or 25 Degrees; if you want enough food to kill a horse, go to the Bucket.

                  2. the closest I got to in&out is Big Joe's in Santa Monica on Broadway and 20th. The last time I got their double cheese burger I swore it was better than the last in&out I had. Charbroiled. Yum.

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                    1. re: vewyfunny

                      I really never liked IN and Out burgers, although it has been yonks since I had one.

                      1. re: Diana

                        I think there are a couple in Orange County, but I know Easy Take Out in Costa Mesa (17th Street between Santa Ana Ave. and Tustin Ave.) offers a very similar experience to In N Out. Actually, and this may be more local legend now than anything else, I heard the people that opened the Easy Take Out franchise were formerly with In N Out before branching out on their own. I know there's an Easy Take Out in Anaheim (near the 91 Freeway at Weir Canyon) and there may even be more.

                        The menu, as you might expect, is basically just burgers, cheeseburgers, fries, drinks, and shakes. I think they have onion rings, though I can't remember. As with In N Out, you can order stuff "not on the menu" and they also do an "animal style" with grilled onions and mustard. I think their fries are much better than In N Out, which I have gone on record for years as saying I think basically suck.

                        R. Jason Coulston

                        1. re: Jason_Coulston

                          ouch, In N Out fries are definitely not sit-down-restaurant style fries, but I wouldn't knock them. For as long as I can remember some people went specifically to In N Out for the fries. If the Easy Take Outs do have onion rings that would be a departure from the In N Outs now in existence, I've eaten at many in the states that it serves in and never was there onion rings served. I like their fries especially animal style but can eat them with ketchup or by themselves--like I said they are not restaurant style fries(ie: herbs, spices, wedges, etc.; I don't think they were ever meant to be since it was specifically a product made for drive-thru window dining back in the 40s and they have not changed the recipe much if at all)

                          1. re: b0ardkn0t

                            The fries at In N Out are cooked from raw potatoes. A proper french fry (that you would find in any great French Bistro ala Bouchon, Comme Ca, Jeanty, etc.) starts with peeled potatoes that are soaked in water, sometimes as long as overnight. They're then blanched in oil at a lower temperature (285-degrees), cooled, then re-fried at a proper frying temperature (375-degrees). The result is a fluffy interiorr with a beautiful golden brown exterior.

                            Cutting up raw russets and throwing in a fryer is a horrible way to cook them and produces soggy, oil-clogged results. It's as far away from a truly proper french fry as I can imagine.

                            It's nice they're pushing the concept of freshness, but it's at the expense of the end result.

                            R. Jason Coulston

                            1. re: Jason_Coulston

                              Thanks for the lesson...I always wondered why they were so...unique?!?

                              I still like them for what they are, however.

                              1. re: Jason_Coulston

                                I wouldn't use 285-degrees as the first cooking temperature. It's too low and would allow the oil to soak the potatoes most unpleasantly. Try 325. I'm also against russets, but that's for another post.

                                The much-vaunted fries at In-N-Out are not nearly as good as high-quality cardboard -- I'm talking top-quality ANSI 34IDw6.5 board -- cooked twice at 325/375 and salted with fine gray sea sel immediately afterward. Sprinkle fresh-chopped cilantro or flat-leaf parsley at your discretion. Now, that's good eating.

                              2. re: b0ardkn0t

                                The fries have a certain appeal to them. But it just goes to show that fresh is not always better.

                          2. re: vewyfunny

                            I tried Big Joe's after someone recommended their Patty Melt. Worst Patty Melt I've ever had- I wouldn't expect their Burger to be any better. Thumbs down.

                            1. re: antob

                              Agreed, (and it's actually Big Jo's - no e). Food is pretty mediocre to bad. Terrific Patty Melt's at both Pann's in Inglewood and Nichol's in Marina Del Rey.