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Cam D Mar 14, 2008 03:11 PM

What are people's thoughts on this blog/new restaurant guide? I'd never heard of it but it was forwarded onto me by a colleague. Anyone?

  1. MC Slim JB Mar 16, 2008 10:49 AM

    I've been reading OAD for a couple of years and really enjoying it. I believe Plotnicki is an entertainment lawyer, and is certainly someone who spends a lot of time in luxury restaurants. He seems knowledgeable, well-traveled, and passionate about food, is a good writer, knows something about wine, and (truth in advertising) has strong opinions.

    Unfortunately, he seem to have spent the bulk of the last year launching OAD as a high-end dining guide, a kind of Zagat for the very well-heeled, so he has written far fewer reviews lately, which makes the site a lot less useful to me.

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    1. re: MC Slim JB
      aelph Mar 16, 2008 11:26 AM

      Interesting to know his background. All I've ever seen are the intermittent "ads" for the compilation. I am put off by the "well-heeled" cultural slant elided from his posts; I eat across the spectrum and have never felt it necessary(or profitable?) to posit my dining habits(luxury and not) as an identity. Many do: the cliche' of upper middle class wine clubs, chaine des rotisseurs, etc. I also find it all rather goofy, to each his own.

      1. re: MC Slim JB
        condiment Mar 16, 2008 02:40 PM

        Actually, it's a little weirder - he was the head of Profile records in the '80s and '90s, and made his pile on the likes of Run-DMC - I always found it a little odd that rappers and dance artists financed what must be one of the snootiest palates in the world.

        1. re: condiment
          aelph Mar 16, 2008 03:36 PM

          That's actually pretty amusing(and kool...I must begrudgingly say)...it's just so...old skool...


      2. j
        Just Visiting Mar 16, 2008 10:40 AM

        A fitting analogy: this porridge is TOO cold. This porridge is TOO hot. There seems to be, so far, no porridge that is JUST RIGHT. Lots of people feel that Chowhound is too restrictive (where did they find so many people with the time to police the hundreds of daily posts? and how long before they pull this one?). Lots of people find some of the local boards - such as the incredibly popular DonRockwell.com in the DC area to be way too snarky but the level of expertise is really impressive - much more so than any other blog or board I've ever read - and the participation by owners and staff and sommeliers is not only permitted, but welcome, which really fosters a sense of community and allows us to get all sorts of useful info. Egullet seems just boring - not much traffic. So it really is whatever appeals to your personal style and satisfies your info needs.

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        1. re: Just Visiting
          The Chowhound Team Mar 16, 2008 10:51 AM

          Some answers to your questions:

          "where did they find so many people with the time to police the hundreds of daily posts?"

          We rely heavily on hounds to report on inappropriate posts. The boards are really a community effort, not the results from a handful of moderators.

          "and how long before they pull this one?"

          Is there something that you think is wrong with this thread? So far we think it's ok. We'd of course like to keep it friendly, and we would like remind hounds not to get personal. Feel free to agree or disagree with the ratings in the guide, but don't take it out on the different chow communities or individuals.

        2. a
          aelph Mar 15, 2008 06:17 PM

          Actually, instead of offering a unique perspective on food, this guy
          (regardless of his provenance) is one step removed from spam.

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          1. re: aelph
            KTinNYC Mar 15, 2008 07:43 PM

            How so?

            1. re: KTinNYC
              aelph Mar 15, 2008 08:04 PM

              there is at least one other food site where his presence is met with diffidence(at it's most benign)

              his oeuvre comes across irritatingly as shilling for his publication...which no one really seems to care about and yet he persists

          2. c
            ClaireWalter Mar 14, 2008 09:59 PM

            Want to share the URL?

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            1. re: ClaireWalter
              Cam D Mar 15, 2008 06:46 AM

              Here's the contact...


              1. re: Cam D
                KTinNYC Mar 15, 2008 07:24 AM

                If I remember correctly, Steve Plotnicki the founder of OAD was originally a poster here on Chowhound many years ago. Due to differences in the way Chowhound was managed and moderated long time chowhound poster Jason Perlow left this board and began egullet . There was a large migration of chowhound posters to egullet, Plotnicki being one of them, with many members posting on both boards . Ironically, not long after, there was disagreement about the management of egullet many of the original members left and Plotnicki began OAD and Wilfred, who still occasionally post on chowhound, began mouthfulsfood.com.

                All the boards are message boards are useful for different purposes and I appreciate the fact they all exist.

                1. re: KTinNYC
                  limster Mar 15, 2008 01:27 PM

                  Yes! It's wonderful that there are so many site to choose from. No site can be all things to all people, they all have different personalities and it's much better to find a site (or better yet found a site) that suits oneself, rather than to try to force a site (with its inherent inertia) to change to suit oneself.

                  1. re: KTinNYC
                    E Eto Mar 15, 2008 07:49 PM

                    If I remember correctly, this was the beginning of the end for Steve on CH. This is the remaining thread after numerous deletions.

                    1. re: E Eto
                      HillJ Mar 16, 2008 09:49 AM

                      E Eto, I so remember this thread. That's the day I realized CH had a dark side. ROFL....and that food writing was far more biting on page than it would ever be in person...humor, even dark humor is often lost w/out the volume.

                    2. re: KTinNYC
                      danhole Mar 19, 2008 01:46 PM

                      So what's the deal with egullet? You have to pay to post there? Am I misunderstanding?

                    3. re: Cam D
                      Caillerets Mar 15, 2008 03:15 PM

                      I love this blog. This guy goes seriously in depth on so many levels that it is hard to keep up.

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