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  • seadrifter Apr 5, 2002 07:14 PM
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I'm just curious if there are any dual citizens - Chowhound and Weight Watchers member - apart from me...

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  1. Yup, I am, for about 6 months now. Lost 20 lbs. It's been a blessing for all parts of my life...except my culinary adventures. Sigh. One can't have all things (trying to is what packed the lbs on in the first place). But I am pleasantly surprised how quickly and thoroughly I managed to incoporate good food with dieting - I know, I know, it's a "lifestyle change" not a "diet" - though rare is the occaison I indulge in a steakhouse, French, Chinese, Thai or dessert these days. Sigh. Those were the days.... :)

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    1. re: Lisa Bee

      Hee hee, likewise in terms of dining out. But somehow being on WW has caused my culinary interest to bloom. I'm hoping to somehow learn to cook my favorite (especially ethnic) foods in a low-pts way - perhaps there's a cooking school around that would do that, though I doubt it (especially with the fact that I cook for myself only -- there doesn't seem to be much interest in single person cooking).

      Thanks for the reply! Glad I'm not the only one!

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        Caitlin Wheeler

        One of the things I have loved on Weight Watchers - which I have just "rejoined" after a 3 month hiatus -- is sushi and Vietnamese food. Sushi is 2 points for 4 pieces, and 1 cup of Pho is only 2 points! And I definitely don't feel deprived eating either one.

        1. re: Caitlin Wheeler

          Sushi! I've become such a sushi freak thanks to Weight Watchers - it's my lunchtime luxury :)

          Happy chowing and ww-ing! :)

          Sea

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            jenniferfishwilson

            pls join us there!

    2. Check out cooking light, the magazine. They also have a website, cookinglight.com They have a number of really interesting ethnic recipies, unique spices are integrated into dishes and most importantly, you will learn techniques for flavorful, lower fat and calorie cooking.

      Another way to be a lean foodie - portion size and exercise. You really can do it all!

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      1. re: Paige

        Just came back to WW and doing it online. I'm turning 60, graduated my second child and last from BC and it's time for me to get healthy. Man, I love to eat and have a few pops. That's not going to take me very far, for sure. Sigh.

        1. re: Paige

          CL is awesome. Hands down my favorite CHish mag.

        2. I was on WW (and a WW leader for a time). It was switching to their Core plan that re-introduced good food to my way of eating. I'd become so dependent on frozen, pre-packaged, over-processed foods to keep my "points" down that I'd lost touch with real food. I'd also stopped cooking. The Core list was a great way for me to try new foods and start cooking again. I love it.

          While not strictly following WW these days, I do still watch my use of high point type foods. I've found that eating "real food" and paying attention to my satiety level has made all the difference for me. It did take quite a while to learn the difference between being satisfied (not hungry) and full.

          1. I've had an on-again, off-again relationship with weight watchers for a few years. I was often bothered by the reliance on fake-foods, especially the use of margarine over butter, so I modified most WW recipes to use calorie-equal but less artificial foods. After a few months of meetings I switched to online b/c the time commitment for meetings was too much and too repetitive. I've found a 3 month run of WW online is a good way to get back on track after the holidays. I still think in terms of point when I'm planing out my meals for the week and making the grocery list, but I don't think I'll go back to WW for real anytime soon.

            1. I've been "on" WW for just over 2 years now, and love finding new ways to make low point foods. most of the time my friends cannot tell that it's my "special" food, and what they don't know won't hurt them, right? ;-) I've lost 85lbs and I'm almost at my goal. Life is good. Love to eat, but i don't let it control me anymore.

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              1. re: jujuthomas

                Congrats to everyone who's been successful! I found WW quite effective but had to tweak it to keep from starving to death. I did it online and basically cheated whenever I was too hungry; just kept track of how much and tried to offset it by getting more exercise. I seemed to lose one pound/week that way rather than two, but that was fine. I also felt they penalized you too much for using fat so I used a little more olive oil than I said I was using. Also, instead of using those flex points, I just took one day a week to eat whatever I wanted, like it I was going out to dinner or something. Just tried to keep my food choices on the healthy side that day. I really believe the rumor that doing that gives your metabolism a little bit of a boost. Although I was barely on WW by the end, it did help me change habits in terms of eating low-points fruits and vegetables, and avoiding unnecessary fats. Oh, yes, and the journaling made it clear to me how many calories I was consuming in wine and how much alcohol seems to throw a monkey wrench in dieting, even beyond the calories consumed. Sad to say.

                1. re: bibi rose

                  My husband has a lot of problems staying on track because he gets hungry like you did. They just started a new plan in January, which revised the focus. I think that's helped a lot, as it gave him new strategies for staying full.
                  yes, yes. so sad what a "waste" of calories alcohol is! Every once and a while I drink a few glasses of wine, just because, and it feels like such a splurge!
                  I agree that taking a day or more off gives your metabolism a boost, I do not track during vacations and may gain during, but have good losses soon after going back on plan! Glad you found something ww-ish that worked for you! :)

              2. I'm a pretty long-term advocate of Weight Watchers as well as a dedicated food lover and hounder. I managed to lose about 70 pounds on the program about 5 years ago and kept almost all of that off long term, as it really helped me re-focus my eating habits, get me back into exercising (nothing like earning some extra points to spend on indulgences!) and learn a lot of great new cooking techniques as well.

                It can be a challenge, no question about it. Like some others here have said, I refuse to use fake foods and artificial sweeteners in my diet, so a lot of "light" products are off limits to me (though I have become so used to some things like skim milk that I just can't handle the full fat versions any longer). I find vacations and work travel nearly impossible to stick to program, but I just try to work on my portion control in those cases and make sure to get right back on board once I'm back home.

                I did find myself slipping back into some old bad habits this year, so I'm back on the program right now to try to lose about 15 of those 70 pounds again. *sigh* But I'm 6 down pretty quickly so that's encouraging. The first week back on program was very hard, but now 3 weeks in and I'm already finding my hunger patterns and tastes getting back into shape a bit.

                Alcohol is definitely a weakness, but I'm cutting back on mixed drinks and spirits in favor of wine. It's all good anyway... :P

                1. I have been on and off for about 6 years with varying degrees of success. Love the system/points/recipes, but I could not stand the meetings. Too bad there were not more Chowhounds in the meetings! most of the ppl. "hated to cook" and quinoa was like a freaky food for them. I love to cook and I will seek out the lowest point grains!

                  WW is great, but it got kind of expensive for DH & I both to go. Hence, I've been on South Beach since.

                  1. Like Socii, I have been a long term member. I have been on WW for over 10 years. I lost 115 lbs and kept all but 25lbs of it off for about 8 It's time to go back on. I do it on line. I don't have the time, money or patience for meetings. I just have to refocus.

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                    1. re: MrsT

                      AAAAAAAhhhh....I need to refocus as well! First year of marriage and working 10 hour days has put on the "happy weight"....I lost 55 with WW...but 15 has come back with a vengeance (very noticeable on a 5'2" body!). I love to cook, and am rediscovering some of the WW cookbooks that I enjoyed using...also got a subscription to Cooking Light and am writing the point values per serving in the magazine next to the recipe. Wish I loved exercising as much as I love to cook and eat great food!

                      1. re: winecafe95

                        Yes to Cooking Light! I've reached a point where I only buy food magazines and cookbooks with full nutritional value listed so I can calculate (or at least eye ball) the points values.

                        I am sometimes astonished at how not-light the recipes in Cooking Light are, they're definitely low cal/fat that the standard versions, but still much higher cal/fat per serving than I can fit into a WW points budget. I find myself scaling down the recipes a lot since I can usually get 6-8 servings out of a recipe meant to serve 4, but I'm cooking for one!

                        I have a copy of "Healthy Cooking for Two (or Just You)" by Frances Price. It's a bare-bones book, no photos, nothing fancy, but full of basic recipes scaled for 1 or 2, plus full nutrition info. My copy is dog-eared and full of points notations and meal-combos. I love it!

                        1. re: mpjmph

                          Thanks for the cookbook rec....I am a cookbook addict! What are your favorites in the book?

                          1. re: winecafe95

                            I have every WW cookbook that isn't the 70's scary variety.
                            I love Dining w the Duchess (Fergie era, very yummy stuff)
                            The Take OUt Tonight
                            Dining for Two
                            Skip: The pizza one, the grilling one,

                            1. re: stellamystar

                              I love the Take Out Tonight one... I also have Make it in Minutes, which I don't find nearly as useful.

                              I didn't know about Dining for Two - sadly it looks like it's out of print and the only used copy on Amazon is going for $60. I wish I had heard of it a few years ago.

                              1. re: mpjmph

                                I think the pizza one is more "common sense" - esp. if you are a Chowhound. I think some WW'rs may not think about using pesto instead of mozzarella cheese as a topping..ya get me? But, look at the used book stores ..so many to choose from.
                                Yes, Make it in Minutes is so-so. Sheesh, maybe I should rejoin! ARGH!!! WW'rs always gets me!!!

                              2. re: stellamystar

                                Oh, I have the Pizza Pizza one on my list of books to keep my eye out for. Not worth clearing a space on the shelf for it, eh?

                                I like Take Out Tonight, too. Not the most "authentic" recipes, but some of them are pretty delicious and do help you keep things under control. If you can find their Mexican and Chinese cookbooks (old) they are pretty good, too.

                                As a general rule, I find WW recipes to be too timidly spiced. I just double the amount of all the spices, which usually works out.

                                P.S. for those who worry about such things, this is a thread from 2002. But I say why not resume the discussion if it's interesting!

                                ~TDQ

                                1. re: The Dairy Queen

                                  I have "My Turnaround Program" and "Ultimate Flex & Core"...both fantastic and better with the spice and taste (although I tend to "zip it up" as well).

                                  DQ: Agreed that it's a discussion worth resuming...while WW does have it's own board and recipies, I'd rather get a chowhound's opinion on how to make it fabulously tasty AND healthy than a pre-packaged frozen option or blah recipe anyday!!!

                                  1. re: winecafe95

                                    Your post reminded me why I regained my love of food and cooking!

                                    I'd lost 30 pounds doing the Flex program but trying to keep my "Points" down caused me to eat a lot of "fake" foods; i.e., low calorie, low fat foods with ingredients that I couldn't pronounce. The program worked but I used far too many pre-made foods because having the nutritional values on the package made it easier to calculate my points.

                                    When I was in training to become a WW leader, they required all employees to try all of the current programs. I really resisted Core. I thought, "Hell, if I knew how to stop when I was satisfied, I wouldn't need WW." I was so wrong. Very few pre-made, packaged foods are on the list. I started cooking again. I discovered new grains and veggies that I'd never tried before the Core program. It's opened up a whole new world of food for me.

                                    I think they're calling the Core program Filling Foods now. My regular work schedule got so busy, I had to give up leading my meeting. However, I still cook mostly Core-style. By keeping to the whole grains and lean meats and the like, I'm able to indulge in my other favorites without gaining back all the weight I'd lost. I've discovered great ways to coax flavor without adding non-Core ingredients.

                                    I used to nuke a Lean Cuisine, Smart One, or Healthy Choice for dinner. Now, I cook nearly every night. I have guilt-free love for my food now.

                                    1. re: Ima Wurdibitsch

                                      Yes, the core plan has been merged into the flex plan and is now called the "Filling Foods Technique". WW is trying to encourage all of their members to each more "filling foods" ie., whole grains, fruits, vegetables and lean protein. In addition, if you want to, you can follow the "filling foods technique" (i.e., the core plan) for a week at a time. When you follow the filling foods technique, you're supposed to focus more attention on your feelings of fullness and hunger rather than obsessively tracking points. However, you still have to do a certain amount of weighing and measuring and you still have to meet what WW calls the Good Health Guidelines (which requires you to have a certain amount of fruit or vegetables, "healthy" fat, protein, etc. per day).

                                      I personally loved core. I felt like I was just eating more heathfully instead of feeling like I was dieting.

                                      ~TDQ

                                      1. re: Ima Wurdibitsch

                                        My wife and I (both lifetime WW members) lost significant weight on Flex (I lost over 65 pounds) and have kept it off for over 5 years by staying on a Flex-type program during the week and eating pretty freely on the weekends.

                                        We never found ourselves turning to processed or other kinds of pre-made foods; like you on Core, we cooked a lot more than we had in our pre-WW days, and continue to do so. Since we joined WW, our eating has become considerably healthier (fruits, veg, whole grains, healthy fats, lean meats,etc.) - and we never did Core.

                                        I think the WW tie-in with various food producers, coupled with their own line of prepared foods (some items sold at meeting centers), encourages the use of those kinds of items in the program - it's a gripe I have with WW, but a small one. OTOH, the excellent leader we worked with emphasized whole foods, portion control, and food control (knowing what you're eating and how it was prepared) - all of which motivated us to cook our own meals and be responsible for our eating choices, whether on Flex or Core (or the new merged plan).

                                        1. re: Striver

                                          As Striver illustrates, it's not necessary to eat processed foods on WW, regardless of which plan or "technique" you follow. Just as there are many ways to be a chowhound, there are also many ways of being a Weight Watcher. Some of them, successful. :).

                                          If I don't eat whole foods on WW, I end up feeling like I'm starving all the time. I can still lose weight, but I'm mean and unhappy. I'm sure different people have difference thresholds and limits for these sorts of things, but I pretty much eschew white breads, white rice, white potatoes, white tortillas (notice how carbs are a prominent theme for me?) ...

                                          ~TDQ

                        2. I did the Weight Watchers Program, and with some discipline it works very well. I wishe there would be some more communivation between members, I also did a Marie France program, and there is a community site now where I got a lot of good tips.http://www.weight-watch.info

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                          1. re: JennyChow

                            Weight Watchers online has a forum where members can exchange tips and support. You have to be enrolled to use it.

                            1. re: Caitlin McGrath

                              Enrollment is free. They don't require that you pay for the program to participate in the message boards.

                              WW Board Travel Advisory: Some of the boards there are only superficially related to weight loss and/or food. They are more social in nature and tend to have a very disctinct community personality. I'd recommend lurking (reading and learning the culture) for a little while before jumping in with a comment; particularly on the Daily General Thread (GDT). That said, if you appreciate sharp wit and have little tolerance for whining, blame-shifting, and the like - it can be kind of fun.

                          2. I've been on WW since the beginning of May and have dropped 30 pounds. Went from a size 12 to a size 6 and have ten pounds to go. That said, we managed to spend a week in Paris and a week in the South of France this summer and I dropped 1 and a half pounds. I ate cheese, sweetbreads, pastries, meat, bread--drank wine every night. The secret was the portion size and the fact there was no processed foods going my way. WW has not affected my cooking for the rest of the family. I'm cooking as usual but incorporating more grains and filling veggies. Also, I'm not snacking, eating dessert nor piling the plate with food. WW, in my opinion, is not a diet but it is a way of changing the way you eat. My leader's quote "If you bite it, write it" has become a mantra. I keep a journal at all times and track what I eat. Gotta say that the meetings help tremendously.
                            It works!

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                            1. re: jarona

                              The trouble with WW is that you can't buy any of the foods in Turkey where I am resident. I wish they would make a diet that just included natural foods that you can get anywhere in the world.

                              1. re: benhalterci

                                the point of WW is to teach you to eat healthy food and proper portions. You do not have to buy any already prepared food.

                                1. re: jujuthomas

                                  I'm replying almost a year and a half after my first response. I put 15 pounds on so I'm back at WW. I need to get back into my size 6's before our next trip to Paris this coming June. That said, I'm not diggin' the new points plus program. I much rather like the regular points program. The weight is not coming off as much or as quickly this time around. I don't like the zero points for fruit. However, I'm sticking with it--especially since it is now Lent!

                            2. A very large local chef, Kent Rathbun (who kicked Flays butt in the Elk challenge on American Iron Chef) is a very large man. He recently lost 70 pounds and going with Weight Watchers online. Did I mention he wears husky chef whites? Guess it works.

                              1. I joined WW today, so I am bumbing this older thread.
                                I am a total novice when it comes to a WW like lifestyle. I've watched my weight in the past and successfully lost 15 extra pounds two years ago by reducing portions, LOTS of exercise and limited drinking. I maintained for a year, and, well, I've gained it all back and more. Shame on me, but life got in the way and I was self-medicating with food and wine too. Enough of THAT.
                                My question (and forgive me if I should be able to find my answers on the WW website, I am really not used to it yet), can I really eat all this food and lose weight?
                                I didn't eat a ton during the day, too preoccupied with trying to figure it all out, and had 20 points left by the time I was making dinner.
                                I entered in 5 oz chicken breast, 3/4 c bulgur (because I could, for one measely point, have 3/4 c instead of 1/2 c which really seems like a more reasonable portion) and a ton of veggies. It was a rather large bowl of food, and I couldn't eat it all.
                                I then had 9 points left, and figured I could have 8 oz of red wine. Is that fair?
                                I figured the most wine I would be allowed (and still lose weight) would be around 4 oz., this cup in front of me feels like cheating!
                                Truthfully, when I limited myself in years past, I had one glass of wine a day, and managed to drop 15 lbs in 6 weeks. I was in love, what can I say, that helped my motivation a bit.
                                I am motivated this time around by my own happiness and a closet full of clothes I'd like to wear this Spring and Summer.
                                I ask for your guidance, your tips, your help in general. Please help me to not muck up this attempt! I'm gonna be 39 soon!

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                                1. re: rabaja

                                  yes, you can lose weight eating all that food. WW is all about balance - making sure you get enough protein, enough veggies and fruit, not too many carbs or sweets. I just had my 4 year WW anniversary, and my 1 year "lifetime" anniversary. (I lost 97 lbs and have kept it off for just over a year now). I eat 3 good meals, and 2-3 snacks per day. lots of protein, fruits and veg, lots of water or other liquids. it works! :)
                                  you may find the message boards on weightwatchers.com useful - the folks there are not all foodies, but they are full of useful tips.

                                  1. re: rabaja

                                    I will tell you from experience that if you really want to drop weight, you have to cut out the wine. The effect it has on your efforts is basically slow and steady sabotage, and it takes twice as long to accomplish whatever goals you've set out, because of the effects on metabolism. It's basically like drinking a glass of juice every day. Calorically, it's empty calories and you should be filling up with GOOD calories, and metabolically, it turns to sugar and is stored as excess fat, unless you're walking 30 minutes to a bar to have that wine and then 30 minutes back, and REALLY limiting it to one, 4oz glass, AND getting your regular exercise on top of it.

                                    Try cutting wine out every day but Fri and Sat, and just savoring a single glass. You have to decide what's more important - having wine all the time or dropping weight. It's really very difficult to achieve both goals, especially when you're in our age bracket. The metabolism is just not as forgiving of these seemingly small bumps in the road. It does everything it can all the time to sloooow down, and you're just adding more fuel to that fire with wine.

                                    1. re: rockandroller1

                                      See, but the point of WW is that you don't have to eliminate anything from your diet. you just have to fit it into your plan. If I want a glass of wine in the evening, I plan it into my day. I know folks on WW who plan a glass into every single day. Granted, you can't drink the whole bottle at once, unless you plan for it! :)

                                      I cannot however speak to the effects of wine on the metabolism. I just know I like a nice glass of riesling in the evening!

                                      1. re: jujuthomas

                                        Thanks to both you and rockandroller1 for responding to my wine question.
                                        I know wine can impede weight loss and I KNOW it can make you fat.
                                        I am just hoping for a little normalcy tied into this WW thing, so I will try to save points for a glass of wine in the evening.
                                        If the pounds don't come off I will reassess. Yes, I am three years older than the last time I got down to my goal weight, so I have no idea if my body will fight me more now.
                                        It doesn't take well to whole bottles of wine the way it did in my twenties, but that is a good thing!
                                        I am looking forward to checking out skinnygirl.com. I would hate to give-up my participation on the home cooking board, and noone wants to hear 365 things I do to boneless, skinless chicken breasts.

                                        1. re: rabaja

                                          Rabaja, that sounds like an excellent plan! I see so many folks on the WW boards complaining that they just can't lose - but they are unwilling (or unable) to reassess and change what they're doing! One of the best bits of advice my ww leader ever gave me was to make sure I switch things up, it's so easy to fall into a rut of eating the same thing each day - as I did for a while with breakfasts. :) Now I make sure to have 2-3 breakfast options available and rotate them so I don't eat the same thing every day of the week.

                                          1. re: jujuthomas

                                            If it helps at all, I was only a few years younger than you are now when I was at my fittest and skinniest and I drank a lot more than 1 glass of wine per night. But this was also in the days before I had a chronic back condition, and I a) ran 3 miles 6 days a week, b) lifted weights for 30 minutes 2-3 x/week and c) was in rehearsals for a very active musical 6 nigths a week. Pizza, french fries, wine, whatever, didn't matter, it all melted off. The Michael Phelps diet is likely a true thing. It really is all in getting more exercise.

                                        2. re: jujuthomas

                                          I agree. My wife said it was time for a diet. We settled on WW since there was no restriction on any food. I told her I would not do a diet that I had to follow a menu plan or cut out certain foods. WW is all about being accountable for what goes in your mouth.

                                          My MIL has lost a bunch of weight on WW and follows it to the T. I'm not so disciplined but it has taught me to be accountable. We counted points the first few weeks until I could estimate a meals points by the ingredients. I have a Points Plus calculator that I use to calculate points of Items that I buy. Writing the points on a package has helped quickly estimate points. I've lost nearly 16 lbs in the last 3 months.

                                          I have not cut out things I like. Just eat less of them. I still have a drink most evenings and don't worry about it. It's more common that I don't eat my points for the day anyway. There is nothing magical about WW. It's just a low calorie diet that makes you accountable for what goes in your mouth. Instead of adding up calories you are adding up points.

                                          No question some modifications have to occur in your every day diet. More lean proteins and less fat for me. I've always eaten a lot of fruits, vegetables and beans so that was not a big change. Just eating less and being satisfied. I'm not trying to lose weight fast. Better to make these modifications smaller so they will be easier to follow as a lifestyle change and not a diet.

                                          Good luck to all those that are trying to lose weight. Do what ever works for you.

                                      2. re: rabaja

                                        I have lost 70 pounds (so far) over the last 10 months on Weight Watchers, so yes, clearly it is possible. My younger friend, who goes out a lot more than i do, has lost 50 in the same amount of time. The new Points Plus program is geared to steer people away from low nutritional value foods and toward more protein, whole grains, and fruits and vegetables. It's a learning process, but I honestly feel like a better chowhound now than I was a year ago when I just shoveled in any old thing. Good luck! Do bring questions.

                                        BTW, I'm 62; it can be done at any time.

                                        1. re: Parrotgal

                                          Parrotgal, You are inspiring. I've been off and on WW forever and I think I finally woke up when I saw a photo of myself with my dear husband, recently taken. He looks so trim and cute (he has a metabolism to die for) and I looked not that great. Will be a YOUNG 62 in August and I want to be where you are. Thank you so much for posting; you made my day.

                                          1. re: donnahobrien

                                            I totally get the photo thing!
                                            Recently I saw a snapshot my mother took of me last summer, very proudly displayed on the piano. Ugh, I just wanted to shove it in the fireplace before anymore family members saw it!
                                            Taking inspiration in all your replies/comments here, thank you!

                                        2. re: rabaja

                                          Sure you can lose eating all that food as long as you are keeping to your points. Eating throughout the day (several mini-meals or 3 meals w/th snacks in between) to keep your metabolism up is really important. As is eating lots of vegetables and fruits, drinking a lot of water and indulging cravings in moderation, whatever they may be. And the best advice I ever heard from a leader was to make a whole sandwich but only eat half. If you get ravenous later go back and have the rest of the sandwich. I was suprised to learn that 1/2 sandwich is usually enough.
                                          While there are some good tips on the WW message boards I find that a lot of the discussions there focus on processed foods which I just don't care for. That's not to say that I never eat processed foods or that I'm knocking anyone who does. I just like to cook so Chowhound makes more sense for me. That said, I was feeling a bit tortured on Sunday by the manicotti discussion on the Home Cooking board knowing that I had to weigh-in Monday morning:-)

                                          1. re: EM23

                                            EM23, I agree a lot of people focus on the processed foods, they are an easy out. But I am seeing a trend away from the processed foods lately that I'm hoping will become a landslide movement. I think the new program, where carbs like bread and snack cakes "cost" more is good, I know it got me to reevaluate what I eat, and to change some habits for the better.
                                            One great site for lightened up recipes is skinnytaste.com. Her focus is on "real" food with great ingredients, but less fat/calories/whatever. I've only made a couple of the recipes so far, I'm looking forward to trying many more. :)

                                            1. re: jujuthomas

                                              Thanks for the skinnytaste.com rec. Juju. I had a quick look and see that she has the points plus numbers for some of the recipes - love that.

                                              1. re: EM23

                                                I've made her pasta fagioli soup a few times now and it's REALLY good. I think I'm going to pick a couple new recipes from her site to try in the next week or so. :)

                                              2. re: jujuthomas

                                                Great site. I've never been one to eat processed foods. I've always said I've gotten fat on good food not junk food. But no matter what you eat, if you eat too much you will gain weight.

                                          2. Being Shrove Tuesday. this is probably a good time to see this post. Two or three years ago DW and I did WW and I lost 80 lbs. Wife hit goal so we stopped attending though i still had a little ways to go. But little by little, 50 lbs came sneaking back on. Now I've got a knee going and the pain is slowing me down which means the weight is coming on faster. Not to mention the evening predinner cocktails bring relief (and appetite).

                                            So Lent might be a good excuse to bite the bullet and start over but I honestly did not find the meetings at all male friendly. I've noticed that a couple of folks here mentioned doing the program online. What do you think? Worth a shot? I guess it's all on the honor system -- though I've got to go to face my MD every 3 months to get bp, cholesterol, weight, etc. checked out anyway. Any experience on the online program appreciated.

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                                            1. re: junescook

                                              I had no interest in the meetings, and gladly went the on-line route, but it's only my second day, so hopefully some others will weigh in here.
                                              I am enjoying looking up my foods and ascertaining a healthy amount/weight for things before meals. Now I know, when it's gone I am done, and it's time to move on from my meal and to the next order of business.
                                              I've been surprised again today by the generous amounts I AM allowed of certain foods.
                                              My breakfast of cottage cheese, yogurt and blueberries was huge!

                                              1. re: junescook

                                                The online program works for a LOT of people, and there's a message board or 2 just for the guys. If you pay to do WW Online you have a variety of tools available, including online tracking tools for your food and your weight. I actually do both online and meetings, now that I'm maintaining I use the message boards and online food tracker, but go to meetings each week with my Hubby and weigh in once a month.

                                                1. re: junescook

                                                  I think the online is pretty straightforward. The only thing missing is the leader's 'look' when you gain. I also have an Iphone and downloaded the app. You can access your numbers right away, etc. Indeed it is the honor system; however, if you are where we all are, you don't want to cheat. I guess.......

                                                2. I've been following WW for about a year, and I've lost about 60 pounds. I have about 15 to go. It's definitely possible to be a foodie and lose weight. The difference is frequency and quantity. We used to eat out about twice a week, now it's twice a month. We cook at home more. I rarely have sweets, and I eat much smaller portions. I find that when I do splurge once in a while, I enjoy it so much more.

                                                  The reformulated Points Plus program is geared more toward whole foods and away from processed stuff. But it's all about choices, so yes, you can still eat junk food as part of a successful WW plan. But you're rewarded with MORE food if you make good choices - fruits & veg, lean protein, lowfat or fat-free dairy.

                                                  The WW recipes on the site emphasize real cooking. I have made dozens of their recipes, and most have been winners - not "diety" at all. But portions are smaller than some may like, so make extra just in case.

                                                  By the way, I lost about 30 of my pounds as an online member only. I did not care for the traditional meetings after a while.

                                                  Hope this helps.

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                                                  1. re: shoes

                                                    I am absolutely loving the new PointsPlus program; I am 7 weeks in and have lost 17 pounds. I think you can definitely be a foodie; I think the benefit to WW over any other weight loss system or program is the idea that you can fit anything in, you just have to plan for it. I have the iPhone app, and absolutely love it.

                                                    I also wanted to add that I have not given up my wine; life is too short to give up what we love.

                                                    1. re: CanadaGirl

                                                      I love the iPhone app too, so handy at the store and when I'm eating away from home.
                                                      Glad to hear you have done so well on WW while including wine in your diet. I have been really pleased with one glass in the evening, I think it makes me fell less like I'm dieting and more like I'm making healthy lifestyle choices. Which is the whole idea, right?
                                                      17 pounds in 7 weeks! I hope I can say that someday soon, congrats!

                                                      1. re: CanadaGirl

                                                        Awesome! I love new the PointsPlus as well. I "thought" I loved the old plan, but this is MUCH better. Even though wine is 4 points. Bah!
                                                        I use my flex points for wine /drinks mostly. Which is MORE than enough.

                                                        I have lost almost 8 lbs in three weeks so I am very happy.

                                                    2. Yes, I just signed up on Chowhound and have been a Weight Watcher member since January. I have a question about Bird's Custard. Does anyone know how many ww points would be in a serving?

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                                                      1. re: twinmary

                                                        I think it is two points per dry tablespoon. I remember reading your post the other day and I saw the Birds at Wegman's. You can go to the online calculator on the WW website and use that for the exact calculation.

                                                      2. Found out something sobering this week. I looked up Banh mi on Livestrong.com, then took the nutritional info given (they use Lee's Sandwiches as their standard) and input that into the WW points calculator .... 16 POINTS for one sandwich!! That's more than half the daily pts. i'm allowed! Now, the banh mi i bought i believe is a little smaller than Lee's, but still...... bummer. Must be all that bread (and mayo), because the meat filling is pretty minimal in those yummy things, and full of points-free veggies. Will have to ration myself and have them on a very light dinner day...

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                                                        1. re: mariacarmen

                                                          That is a bummer! Are you getting them at Saigon Sandwich?
                                                          I used to hit that place on Sundays after a kickboxing class at Club 1. No wonder I never lost any weight!
                                                          My sister and I would stop and either get the banh mi or an egg plate at a mexican place around the corner. She's super skinny, and so I foolishly thought if she can eat that after a workout, it should be fine for me too, right? Uh, no.

                                                          1. re: rabaja

                                                            no, some little place that sells like 4 sandwiches closer to my work. Anh Dat or something like that. i know, total bummer!!! I'll have to do a sampling tho, and see if Saigon's are even smaller. I haven't been there in awhile.

                                                          2. re: mariacarmen

                                                            Funny you should mention Banh Mi! I was counting them as 10, which I *KNOW* in my heart of hearts was WRONG. 16 is more like it... it does have fatty meats/pate on it (the one we get, anyway!). We have slim pickings where we live.. :)

                                                          3. yes, i've been a member of ww since 2002 (lifetime since 2003 with a 25lb loss) and a member of chowhound since about 2006 so i've been a dual citizen now 5 yrs. of course in those 5 yrs i didn't do ww the entire time. i became pregnant in 2007 and i'm back on it. i've lost 14 lbs so far but have been plateauing for about a month. i plateaued back in november so i jumped off the wagon. big mistake! the first time i think i ate sushi and sashimi like 3 days a week. love that you can make your own food and it's a pretty flexible way to lose weight.