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Los Planes - Excelsior - Report [San Francisco]

Dave MP Mar 11, 2008 10:33 PM

Pane and I had an early dinner this evening at Los Planes - this place seems to be very popular and the food was good.

We each had a pupusa w/ chicharron, beans and cheese. They were good - freshly fried and served hot and crispy, these are some of the best pupusas I've had in San Francisco, though I thought there wasn't enough filling (or perhaps the filling didn't have enough flavor.) I would be curious to try plain cheese pupusas, which I tend to like better. The curtido and the tomato sauce served w/ pupusas were fine, and I liked how they gave us large portions (way more than enough) of both.

We shared one tamal de elote, which was excellent. Served already out of its husk along w/ some sour cream. I added a bit of sugar and it was delicious. The tamal was very moist, and just straightforward good flavor.

We also shared a main dish of pacaya rellena - mainly because we hadn't seen this on many menus before. I am currently trying to figure out what pacaya actually is, and it's one of the least googleable things I've eaten in a long time! As far as I can tell, there's not even a wikipedia article, and many people seem to be confused about what part of the plant is eaten. I think my best answer came from a Chef to Chef conversation from 2004 found here:

http://forums.chef2chef.net/showflat....

So I guess it's the edible shoot/bud of the pacaya palm tree. Anyway, the pacaya was stuffed w/ cheese and fried, then served topped w/ tomato sauce along w/ rice, beans and tortillas. The pacaya itself was very interesting! It has a bitter taste which I enjoyed, but the texture and appearance was somewhat like a cross between squid and eggplant. The whole dish reminded me somewhat of eggplant parmesan and overall I liked it- the rice and beans were good too, though nothing special.

Total bill for all of this, plus two small agua frescas de tamarindo, was $19.50 before tip.

Definitely worth checking out, and it was fun to get a better glimpse of this neighborhood. Lots of good potential chow exploration is possible nearby! For example, the Salvadoran bakery next door seemed extremely popular and it smelled great. Maybe next time I'll stop there too.

Dave MP

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Los Planes De Renderos Restaurant
12 Persia Ave, San Francisco, CA 94112

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  1. pane RE: Dave MP Mar 12, 2008 08:31 AM

    Yep, I noticed on the bus ride over that the last three or four blocks before Los Planes were stacked with Salvadoran groceries, bakeries and restaurants. Maybe they should rename this corridor Little El Salvador?

    Anyhow, I came upon this place because a Salvadoran cab driver recommended it to me--he said most Salvadoran places in SF had Mexican or Central American cooks; only at Los Planes did the food taste distinctly Salvadoran to him. Both times I've gone business has been bustling and the food lived up to the cabbie's hype.

    Last time I tried the Salvadoran specialties plate, which included an excellent chicken tamal. The elote tamal was even better: with a punch of sweet corn flavor, it tasted like July. Dave recommended adding a bit of sugar to the sour cream, and that heightened the fresh, sweet corn flavor.

    Pupusa was great, though, like Dave, I wanted more filling.

    I cracked up at the description of the pacaya "appearance was somewhat like a cross between a squid and an eggplant"--but it's so true! Long ribbons of spongy, bitter vegetable were joined at a central point, like the legs of an octopus. The preparation was like East Coast parmesan at a red sauce joint: mixed with cheese, breaded, fried, and then doused with a piquant tomato sauce.

    Also, I thought the tamarindo was good. Not too sweet. A lady next to us ordered a soup that looked interesting--I would definitely want to try soups when I return.

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    1. re: pane
      Xiao Yang RE: pane Mar 12, 2008 09:30 AM

      You guys rock! Pane, I assume you mean the three of four blocks of Mission north of Persia. I nosed around that area a couple of years ago when my wife was eyeing a restaurant for sale near Mission and Russia and it looked ready for an ethnic restuarant explosion. Mission south of Persia has some interesting stuff going on as well, like Kadok's House of Mami and Siao Pao (Filpino-Chinese) which I keep meaning to try.

      Now where'd I put my Indiana Jones hat?

      1. re: Xiao Yang
        Robert Lauriston RE: Xiao Yang Mar 12, 2008 09:49 AM

        The most interesting place I found wandering around down there was Chifa Peruano, but the food was disappointing:

        http://www.chowhound.com/topics/42819

        1. re: Xiao Yang
          pane RE: Xiao Yang Mar 12, 2008 10:21 AM

          Yep, north of Persia. I looked in at the Salvadoran bakery next door to Los Planes; while the sugary smell was appealing to my bottomless stomach, the look of the pastries was not. It might be that I'm just more into French/Italian bakery treats than South/Central American or Mexican.

          I also wanted to check out the Manila Oriental Market; of course, Dave had already been there dozens of times and recommended specific products.

        2. re: pane
          rworange RE: pane Mar 12, 2008 06:25 PM

          For some reason, your Taxi Cab report didn't link to Places, so here's a link to that report

          Let Your Taxi Driver Tip You
          http://www.chow.com/digest/3799

          I finally woke up and realized I did eat at Los Planos a few years ago. At that time the Bay Guardian called it the most authentic Salvadoran place in the city.

          Though my memory is different about it, looking at my notes I liked the atoll shuco (dirty atol) a purple corn atoll. Served in a dried melon half or gourd, it is taro colored with a yellow corn swirl on top. There are black beans in the bottom. It has the sourish taste of sorrel.

          Skip the orchata which just tasted like the water brown rice was cooked in. Also skip the pastels, these are leaden. A thick corn exterior wrapped around a ground beef interior and deep fried.

          Just around the corner I had my first Salvadoran pastel at Los Guanacos which was one of the most memorable things I've ever eaten. They also have a great drink out of dragon fruit called chan. I see checking yelp they are still open. My old report
          http://www.chowhound.com/topics/30651

          At that time I was doing a pupusa crawl to try to understand what made a good pupusa ... I pretty much burnt myself out on pupusas ... Los Planes didn't do that great probably because of the curtido and stingy filling ... but I'm not Salvadoran, so what do I know. My own thought about pupusas is that the less time from grill to mouth ... the better. I've seen frozen pupusas in Mexican markets and I just can't imagine they would be any good.

          The crawl
          http://www.chowhound.com/topics/31122

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          Los Guanacos Restaurant
          4479 Mission St, San Francisco, CA

          1. re: rworange
            Xiao Yang RE: rworange Mar 12, 2008 08:18 PM

            FWIW (and for anybody wondering what happened to it) the La Pachangera taco truck you mentioned in your earlier crawl post is the predecessor to the Goza Goza truck. Same owner, who for some reason ceded the 14th & Harrison stop to the El Tonayense truck

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          Calvinist RE: Dave MP Mar 12, 2008 09:34 AM

          Love hearing about Excelsior spots! Will try it out.

          1. Robert Lauriston RE: Dave MP Mar 12, 2008 09:43 AM

            It's conventionally spelled "pacalla."

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            1. re: Robert Lauriston
              Dave MP RE: Robert Lauriston Mar 12, 2008 10:01 AM

              I think you meant to say "pacalla". This makes sense, and you are right, this comes up w/ more google results. Still no wikipedia article though...

              1. re: Dave MP
                Robert Lauriston RE: Dave MP Mar 12, 2008 10:07 AM

                Typo. Allaca is a giant Venezuelan tamale.

                No Chowhound topics, either, but I've come across it on menus a few times.

            2. rworange RE: Dave MP Mar 12, 2008 01:31 PM

              I'll have to see if I can pry some more info from my Guatamalan relatives about pacaya. Someone's mom was visiting a few years ago and when they turned up a jar of the stuff, everyone got excited. She took it back with her so I never tried it. I was getting familiar with flor de izote at the time which also got everyone all excited. It was fine, but I think it is an aquired taste.

              Anyway since then, I always notice bottles of paycaya in Mexcan markets.It doesn't seem like all that rare of an item at the local markets. It does look like the tenticles of a squid. Here's a not great picture of Goya ...
              http://www.latinmerchant.com/productd...

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              1. re: rworange
                Dave MP RE: rworange Mar 12, 2008 01:36 PM

                So do restaurants always use the canned product? Is it possible to get this fresh? Is it even eaten fresh?

                That would be great if you could find out more info....I knew I could count on you :)

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                sflady RE: Dave MP Mar 12, 2008 01:54 PM

                Dave, I have been getting my pupusas from the Pupuseria on Persia for years (always for take-out, but one can also eat inside ... although it's just a hole in the wall) ... and they are delicious! That is ALL I have ordered from them, so I can't speak for the other items on their menu, but the pupusas are really good.
                I didn't realize it was called "Los Planes de Renderos" ... it's listed as "Pupuseria" on the phone book. :-)

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                  Dave MP RE: sflady Mar 12, 2008 05:28 PM

                  Yes, it seems like pupusas are their specialty - I got a peek into the kitchen and saw a huge pile of masa waiting to be made into pupusas. The downstairs only has two small tables, but upstairs there are about 10 tables in a dining area. We sat upstairs, by the window, which was nice.

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                  hyperbowler RE: Dave MP May 29, 2013 11:50 AM

                  Dave's eggplant description is what we thought too about the relleno pacaya! It's a really nice dish, but I can see why the chile relleno, with its stronger flavor to cut through the taste of the batter, is more well known. The dish is served with a few awesome thick tortillas, each of which was handmade and resembled an unfilled pupusa.

                  The pupusas are great, but not the best in town. A little too oily and not chewy enough for my liking, but I'd return for them. Not enough filling in the loroco pupusa, but just the right amount in the cheese pupusa. Some cheese leaked from the pupusa and was crisped up just like frico. Mmm...

                  The fried plantains were served with beans and crema. Half the plantains were overcooked, but we really enjoyed the beans and crema on top of those thick tortillas.

                  One of their agua frescas is made of marañón, cashew fruit. See http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/9035...

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                    Kirk_T RE: Dave MP Nov 14, 2013 02:42 PM

                    We've been a few times, and generally like the place. The pupusas are pretty good, but even having a couple immediately weighs you down. The calorie to dollar ratio is very high here. The pupusas we had the other night seemed less crispy than before, maybe because there was less fat used to cook them up.

                    But I dug up this thread because we tried the sopa de res for the first time. This is a generous bowl of beef soup with chunky vegatables. Our bowl had several pieces of tender beef, including two on bone shortribs. The soup has cilantro flavor, but the beef flavor is plenty assertive to stand up against it. I wondered if it had MSG to have such good flavor, but neither of us felt the thirstiness that often comes with MSG afterward. It is perfect for the cool nights. Like the entree plates, the soup also comes with tortillas on the side.

                    Also tried the rice flour pupusa for the first time. It's noticeably crispier and slightly less chewy, with a different aroma from the ones made with the standard masa. Not a huge difference; I probably still prefer the masa ones.

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                    1. re: Kirk_T
                      Dave MP RE: Kirk_T Nov 14, 2013 02:54 PM

                      Nice report. That beef soup sounds really good, and I haven't been to this place in a long time. Thanks for the reminder to check it out.

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