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Mar 9, 2008 08:14 PM

Spiciest Food Available

What restaurant can I go to and get spicy food that's *really* spicy? Even if I ask for "real Thai spicy" or "real Indian spicy" or "Just add many, many peppers," I always feel as though I'm getting a diluted, cater-to-the-masses version that doesn't really have much kick. Where's our restaurants that make you sign a waiver before they pull out the 'secret hot sauce'? Where do they use haberneros and scotch bonnets (or a good variety of chilies in general) that leave you sweating long after your meal? That is what I'm in the mood for.

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  1. Jolee, on victoria near cote st catherine. Good old fashoined Sri Lankan spiciness. tell them you like your food very spicy and get ready to cry. If you`re feeling brave, order the chilli chicken, the only menu item actually marked ``hot``

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    1. re: Moosemeat

      Do you really mean spicy by chilihead standards? My only experience with Sri Lankan food (in Staten Island, NY) found it relatively bland, but perhaps it was dumbed down. Chili chicken is a popular Indian-Chinese dish that is generally not really all that spicy.

      1. re: Xiao Yang

        I think a lot of cultures have something called "chilli chicken". Trust me, this one was spicy, and I do consider myself a chillihead (I'll back that up with the bottle of Dave's insanity hot sauce in my fridge.)

        I've never had bland Sri Lankan food before, my guess is they were dumbing it down... That said there is Sri-Lankan food (Sinhalese) and then there's Sri-Lankan food (Tamil). The latter tends to be spicier than the former, but both have dishes that would be considered hot by anyone's standards.

      2. re: Moosemeat

        Jolee is very hot indeed. We went with our four-year-old kid, and it was a disaster. I was talking about the experience with a woman at Mont Victoria on QM, who told me her dad or uncle or something was the cook there. I asked her how Sri Lankan kids deal with it. Her reply: "Oh, we would never feed them that!"

        Jolee has a steady stream of people arriving for takeout, and sells a sort of stuffed pancake I hadn't had before.

      3. Places that make me sweat more than hot yoga:

        1. Bombay Choupati's fire dosa. When I ordered it, the lady asked me multiple times, "are you sure"? It was pretty spicy all right! take a bite, take some lassi, wipe sweat off brow, took a while to get through it. But it was good.

        2. I adore the scotch bonnet base hot sauce at El Corridor on St. Laurent, with Caraibe Delite on Parc coming a close second. The goat roti is merely an excuse to consume large quantities of the sauce. Every bite gets a liberal dose. I really like the flavour of scotch bonnets. It isn't just about the heat, there is a lovely fruity/floral taste that is absolutely addictive. So I accept the sweats, and barrel through. I could drink the stuff straight, but I am concerned about what that would do to my insides.

        3. Although I have never ventured beyond medium, the "hot" option at Cuisine Bangkok is supposed to be pretty hot.

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        1. re: moh

          You mean "extra spicy" at Cuisine Bangkok?

          1. re: moh

            Is medium XX? I usually specify spicy, which they interpret as XXX. I once saw a chit with XXXX but didn't hear what was ordered to get it; maybe that's extra spicy. Though there's some day-to-day variation, I find XXX perfectly straddles the line between thrilling and sinus-clearing without spilling into pain territory.

            1. re: carswell

              Yes, it is XX. Re: day-to-day variation - The reason I haven't ventured past XX is because one day I got the XX and it was a higher spice day. Again the sweating and tongue wagging. It took me twice as long to eat my meal as usual. Very delicious, but I fear the XXXX level, it might kill me. And I have a pretty reasonable tolerance of spice.

              1. re: moh

                You can order NOT SPICY at Bankok and get it pretty hot still, while you can order SPICY XXX and it doesn't even sniff of chile. I usually get XXX and hope for something in between, and I usually end up giving my GI tract a hard time, but it's worth it! Spicy Dosa at Maison Indian Curry House is pretty hot, too. That's the one that makes me feel it the next day. A colonoscopy, while never a pleasant sight as I have heard, would probably show some pretty raw machinery.

                1. re: riboflavinjoe

                  Yes the spicy dosa at Maison Indian Curry is pretty hot. I wasn't expecting it to be that spicy when I ordered it. I was taking in massive amounts of water after each bite of the spicy dosa.

              2. re: carswell

                To get them to put XXXX on my chit once, I said "four exes" when asked "how spicy?" Just to be sure there'd be no confusion.

                It was pretty intense, but not so oppressive that it drowned the flavour. Now I stick with XXX.

            2. Thanks a lot guys! Only two replies and I've got enough to keep me going for the rest of winter now :)

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              1. re: afoodyear

                We take no responsibility for the morning after (ROF, Johnny Cash...) I also recommend you don't take coffee after the fire dosa. That was a rough night.

                Yes, it is extra spicy at Cuisine Bangkok in the Fauberg. A chile head friend of ours got his food extra spicy, and was pretty impressed.

                1. re: moh

                  I for a period use to order the food 'extra spicy' at Bangkok Faubourg. Now I order it 'spicy.'

              2. I doubt it's still that way but, there was a time when ordering extra-spicy at Niu Kee was a dizzying experience.

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                1. re: SnackHappy

                  Agreed that once upon a time, Niu Kee could do spicy like nobody else, but I don't even go there anymore due to the serious drop in quality. Ah, those were good days...

                  Went to the restaurant version of Bangkok on Friday, and was pretty disappointed. I think I'll stick to the Faubourg branch. We both ordered curries, and when asked if we wanted it spicy, we both answered with an emphatic "yes". The 20-something waiter then gave us the usual shpiel about how hot Thai food was, and we immediately cut him off and assured him that we had spent nearly a year in Thailand, and were well aware of what real Thai food was like. He seemed to understand, but when the food came, it was obvious that more than a few things had been lost on the broken telephone between our table and the kitchen. First off, my red cursy was yellow curry. He insisted that it was red curry..."look, it has bamboo shoots. That means red curry". I said, "Look, it's yellow.. that means it's yellow curry. Look, it tastes like yellow curry. That also means it's yellow curry"
                  On top of that, neither one was hot at all. When we complained, he brought us a plate of really cheap, salty nam pla with some chopped up chillies in it.

                  The beef phal at Star of India is very hot indeed, and good too. I do not care for food that's hot simply for the sake of hot, like a lot of macho Tex-Mex food, when they just keep dumping in chillies. Very hot, for me, also has to be very flavourful.

                  1. re: bomobob

                    I am currently enjoying my beef phal, and oh my. The cocky person I am, thought that the warning of the man who took my order was for the sissies. So I, being the arrogant smartass, ordered it without the rice. Why? Because I am on a stupid diet (and unlike Moh's it doesn't involve hot chocolate, nor rice or noodles). I had a tiny bit of chapati (whole wheat waddaya think?), but that's all.

                    Verdict: Hot hot. It is a sharp spice, very intense and crisp (unlike some warm/hot Thai curries). But it is not one dimensional at all. I think it was damn stupid of me to order such a dish without rice, so not sure if I can finish the sauce without some buffer; I wish I had some yogurt to tame it. Overall, I am impressed with the spice; but the beef is a little bit tough. Standard issue problem with Indian food. I wish it was lamb.

                    The man was right. It is hot...

                    1. re: emerilcantcook

                      I'm almost peeing myself laughing. The very first time I had it, I had just returned from India, and the waiter warned me as well. I did take him seriously, as Indian restos in Canada have been serving up spicy food for a long time, and unlike most Thai places, when they say it's hot, it's hot. But I wasn't prepared either. All the rice and all the Double Diamond in the world couldn't do much to ease the burn. But oh, what a beautifully delicious burn.

                2. Right here.....(OK, I just had to...)

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                  1. re: bomobob

                    What? This has to be explained? What is this photo of? Your kitchen? Is that your world famous super spicy maztoh ball soup in the back?

                    1. re: moh

                      My dream kitchen, more like.
                      This is a sampling of the wares at my all-time mostest favouritest food stall in Bangkok. It's on a little street in the west end called Thanon Kraisi.
                      Top row: Tom Kha Kai (coconut chicken soup), Gaeng Keow Kai (green curry chicken with eggplant), Gaeng Panang Kai (Panang Curry Chicken)
                      Bottom row: Gaeng Phet Moo (red curry pork), Tom Yum Kai (hot and sour chicken soup)

                      The matzoh ball soup was sold out.