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Omakase, Mashiko, Nishino, Shiro's?

adeptation Mar 9, 2008 07:37 PM

Which of the three is the best?

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    jaydeflix RE: adeptation Mar 9, 2008 09:13 PM

    My 2 cents, not having tried shiro's yet.

    Nishino was better quality, Mashiko was easier on the wallet.

    That isn't to say that the quality at Mashiko was bad. Maybe it was just that there were too many common dishes the times we went and had it there and Nishino was an expensive breath of fresh air.

    Either way, I'd have both again. And now, maybe I'll have to try Shiro's....

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      barleywino RE: jaydeflix Mar 10, 2008 08:44 AM

      i agree, i would add Kappo in 3rd place (arguably better than Mashiko but way more expensive) and Shiro as #4 tied with Kisaku (ymmv)

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        not the bad Steve RE: barleywino Mar 11, 2008 12:27 PM

        Mashiko ahead of Kisaku? Heresy!

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          barleywino RE: not the bad Steve Mar 11, 2008 02:26 PM

          it really depends what you're looking for -- Kisaku has much better sushi/sashimi than Mashiko, but their omakase is strictly sushi/sashimi (unlike Mashiko) so if you are looking for cooked items (as in kaiseki) Kisaku would probably not qualify (same for Shiro)

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            adeptation RE: barleywino Mar 15, 2008 12:54 AM

            I've done omakase at Kisaku, but it doesn't feel as complete as Mashiko. Jaydeflix is right about Mashiko though. They repeat the some of the dishes. What's the pricing at Nishino's? 70 to 100?

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              jaydeflix RE: adeptation Mar 15, 2008 09:06 PM

              I seem to recall it was around 100, if not a little higher.

              And the repeating at Mashiko isn't bad, per se. It just is, y'know? On the one hand, it does betray a certain lack of creativity, on the other hand, it isn't *bad*.

              If it's a one time thing, either one works. If it's a regular event... well, hurm. It's back to price. Mashiko is more affordable. It'd be worth just bouncing between the two. Or three. Or four....

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                EJC RE: jaydeflix Apr 18, 2008 10:21 AM

                What is the pricing like at Mashiko?

                Would you guys recommend skipping an omakase meal in Seattle? I love omakase here in NYC, and figured that it'd be the best way to taste all of the local seafood...

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                  barleywino RE: EJC Apr 18, 2008 03:30 PM

                  if you're in NYC, you're in omakase heaven...omakase is fun wherever you go, but $ for $, you'll get more bang for the buck at Gari, Nobu etc.

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      adeptation RE: adeptation Mar 17, 2008 12:11 AM

      Thanks guys. I've been to Mashiko and they are great. I want to check out Nishino's, but the price I'm looking for is around 50 to 60 dollars.

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      1. re: adeptation
        dagoose RE: adeptation Apr 18, 2008 11:11 AM

        I would reccomend Shun. It is actually a little cheaper (last time it was $35) but depends on the night. The most expensive it ever was though was $50. They talk to you, ask you what you like, it is a very dynamic, fun process. My experience at Shiro's was basically just that I sat there and he gave us food. This (shun) is much more in keeping with the omakase spirit.

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          porky pine RE: dagoose Apr 18, 2008 11:24 AM

          I've always been thoroughly entertained at the sushi bar at Shiro's. He's quite a character and his fish is top notch. Never been to Shun. You can't go wrong with omakase at Nishino either.

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            EJC RE: porky pine Apr 18, 2008 12:44 PM

            Shiro's looks like it's very close to our hotel. Do you know how much the omakase is, and if we'd need reservations mid-week?

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              dagoose RE: EJC Apr 18, 2008 02:11 PM

              Mine came out to about $100/person. You can't get reservations, you want to just show up and make sure you get a seat in front of shiro at the sushi bar. We got there about 15 min before they opened on a fri, and got the last two seats at the bar. The restaurant was full the instant they opened.

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                barleywino RE: EJC Apr 18, 2008 11:14 PM

                i have found Shiro to be rather stingy with his fish, and not really very creative at all. I would pass (ymmv). Or go, but do'nt get your hopes too high.

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                  not the bad Steve RE: EJC Apr 21, 2008 09:51 AM

                  I understand Shiro to have retired in the last 3 months. Can anyone say for sure?

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                    porky pine RE: not the bad Steve Apr 21, 2008 11:12 AM

                    I heard that he possibly retired as well. I've never found Shiro to be stingy with his fish but I'm not a fan of big pieces of nigiri.

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                      Tom Armitage RE: porky pine Nov 18, 2008 02:52 PM

                      Shiro-san works on Monday, Wednesday, and Friday.

            2. re: adeptation
              SeaGal RE: adeptation Apr 18, 2008 12:07 PM

              Unfortunately I can't respond to Nishino or Shiro's, but I have had a wonderful omakase experience at Kisaku and the price was $45.00 per person (not including drinks, of course) and included such things as ankimo, shad roe and uni. As mentioned above, there were no cooked items, but the quality of all fish was excellent. I also like Shun, but haven't had omakase there.

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                Tom Armitage RE: SeaGal Nov 18, 2008 03:01 PM

                I am also a big fan of Kisaku. Nikano-san, like Shiro-san, uses a lot of fresh local fish of the highest quality, and the price at Kisaku is much less than at Shiro.

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                  barleywino RE: Tom Armitage Nov 18, 2008 03:29 PM

                  i used to go to Kisaku but found he also tends to favor some customers over others in terms of special treats. also once i ordered uni and instead of lifting out a nice intact piece from the tray, he scraped the leftover liquid remnants from the tray with a spoon and put the spoonful of residue onto the rice and served it to me. I asked him whether i could have a nice fresh whole piece and instead of replacing what he gave me, he refused and just took it off my bill. Not very accomodating, considering that I was spending plenty of $ ($100 bottles of Gekkakow daiginjo sake etc)

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                    terrier RE: barleywino Nov 18, 2008 05:58 PM

                    Kisaku had bad rice when I went. Unforgivable. I won't be going back.

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                      Tom Armitage RE: terrier Nov 19, 2008 10:16 AM

                      Since I've never experienced "bad rice" at Kisaku, you've really aroused by curiosity -- particularly since your recent Chowhound post, like mine, spoke glowingly about Super Cocina and Cafe Chloe in San Diego, suggesting that our food sense might not be all that different. Can you be more specific on what was "bad" about the rice? Was is gluey and starchy, suggesting a lack of sufficient rinsing of the rice? Was it overly vinegared? I'm trying to get a clue as to what to look for on my next visit to Kisaku.

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                        terrier RE: Tom Armitage Nov 19, 2008 10:27 AM

                        It was crunchy (undercooked and/or inadequate resting time) and underseasoned. Maybe it was a one-time thing, a bad batch that the chef didn't check before using, but it was a real turnoff.

                        Coupled with their attitude, I just haven't made it a priority to return - no need when Nishino has never done me wrong.

              2. re: adeptation
                kejadlen RE: adeptation Apr 18, 2008 02:24 PM

                Nishino has two different omakase options. The first is ~55, the latter ~75 (?). You need to call ahead a couple days in advance for the more expensive one.

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                equinoise RE: adeptation Nov 18, 2008 11:59 AM

                Recent report on Shiro's: http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/561243

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                  jimwillis RE: adeptation Nov 24, 2008 09:52 PM

                  Sit at the bar at Nishino. Ask Mori to prepare your food, He'll ask you questions about your likes/dislikes, and prepare as few/many courses as you like. Better deal than omakase, and the guy knows wine/sake like a Japanese Robert Parker, and will make great pairing suggestions.

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