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Dutch Processed Cocoa

BerkshireTsarina Mar 9, 2008 03:26 PM

My best chocolate baking recipes use Dutch processed cocoa. A little while ago I heard that Hershey's had stopped making it. Now Stop & Shop has none of any brand (I think there's still Droste's?), neither does Price Chopper, and even the "gourmet" grocery store of the Berkshires, Guido's, didn't have any. What brands do chowhounds use, and can you find them in your local grocery? Is there some product I'm ignorant of? Please don't say Trader Joe or Whole Foods, they're an hour and a half over the mountain away from us!

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    sueatmo RE: BerkshireTsarina Mar 9, 2008 03:43 PM

    http://www.ghirardelli.com/products/c... Here is a link to Dutch processed chocolate mfg. by Ghirardelli.

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      BerkshireTsarina RE: sueatmo Mar 10, 2008 03:08 PM

      The Ghirardelli is a blend of natural and Dutch processed; I'm sure it makes really good drinking cocoa, but what I need is Dutch processed for baking. (The difference is all about chemistry, evidently.) Hershey's made a wonderful one ("silver label") and then in their infinite wisdom took it off the market in favor of a new and improved product that gets thumbs down from everybody. So I wonder who else actually makes Dutch processed, and which brands people like best. Maybe there aren't any? What will happen to my Cockeyed Cake!

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        GenieinTX RE: sueatmo Mar 19, 2008 06:55 AM

        I use Ghirardelli in my baking and love it. I make chocolate cream pie with it. Yum!

        What difference do you guys find in using 100% Dutch processed? Is it more chocolately? More rich? etc?

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          jlafler RE: GenieinTX Mar 19, 2008 10:15 AM

          I've never used Dutch process, but here's what the Joy of Cooking (1991) says: "Nonalkalized [i.e. natural] cocoa is light in color and somewhat acidic with a strong, assertive chocolate flavor. Alkalized, or Dutch-process, cocoa has been processed with alkali to neutralize its natural acidity by raising its pH level. It is darker, milder in taste, and less acidic than nonalkalized cocoa."

          If Dutch-process is darker, then baked goods will look darker and thus have a more appetizing (and more "chocolatey") appearance.

          As for the taste, it's a matter of personal preference. For eating chocolate, I prefer a fairly high acidity, which leads me to believe that I probably wouldn't like Dutch-process cocoa as well as natural. But if you like a warmer, maltier eating chocolate, than you'd probably like the Dutch-process better.

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        itri RE: BerkshireTsarina Mar 10, 2008 04:11 PM

        I've had difficulty finding Dutch processed as well. The only brand I've been able to find here in Denver is Droste. I've found it both at Whole Foods (sorry) and Cost Plus World Market. Next time I need it though, I will probably buy online from Penzey's. Their price for a pound is about the same as CP/WF for 8 oz., and shipping is fairly reasonable. http://www.penzeys.com/cgi-bin/penzey...

        1. romansperson RE: BerkshireTsarina Mar 11, 2008 09:37 AM

          You can make your own by adding a pinch of baking soda to every 3 tablespoons of regular non-alkalized cocoa you use.

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            jlafler RE: BerkshireTsarina Mar 11, 2008 10:15 AM

            According to "Essence of Chocolate," natural cocoa powder works fine for baking, and in their opinion tastes better. The main problem is that it's lighter in color, so your final product won't have a deep, dark chocolicious color.

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              mark RE: BerkshireTsarina Mar 11, 2008 10:39 AM

              i'm fairly certain that hershey's special dark cocoa powder is dutch processed, although it isn't noted on the container... oops, just checked their web site, it, too, is a blend of regular & dutch. regardless, it's what i use, with good results, when in a pinch.

              if i have time to plan, i order it from penzey's.

              that said, i don't think it's really that critical of a difference. as i recall, and this is coming from the depths so may be a bit mixed up, regular cocoa produces a more reddish color, and dutch a truer chocolate flavor. they can be substituted by adding a bit of baking soda to regular as a replacement for dutch, or adding a pinch of cream of tartar to dutch to replace regular.

              http://www.recipesecrets.net/forums/c...

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                coney with everything RE: mark Mar 24, 2008 04:42 AM

                I think the Special Dark is a blend. Hershey's had a dutch processed cocoa in a silver container, but I believe that was discontinued in favor of the Special Dark.

                I'd also agree with the recommendation of Penzey's if you can't find something locally. I seem to recall seeing a dutch process cocoa, don't know which brand, at Whole Foods.

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                ziggylu RE: BerkshireTsarina Mar 11, 2008 02:15 PM

                I picked some up for my mom at Penzey's this afternoon.

                http://www.penzeys.com/cgi-bin/penzey...

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                  jlafler RE: ziggylu Mar 11, 2008 02:48 PM

                  Why does their cocoa powder have 22% butterfat? If it's cocoa powder it shouldn't have any milk in it.

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                    ziggylu RE: jlafler Mar 11, 2008 03:12 PM

                    ? I don't know. I've never used it. I told my mom i was going and she asked me to grab some for her. I didn't notice that on the label to be honest!

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                      jlafler RE: ziggylu Mar 19, 2008 10:02 AM

                      I looked in my paper copy of the Penzey's catalog and it doesn't mention butterfat, so maybe it's just an error on the website.

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                        fqalzai RE: jlafler Mar 19, 2008 08:47 PM

                        I suspect it's a typo. What they mean is cocoa fat--most cocoas will be in the 18-25% range on that front.

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                  dano RE: BerkshireTsarina Mar 19, 2008 01:50 AM

                  heh, had both a us foods and a sysco rep tell me they've never heard of it-a number of years ago.......

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                    smlee RE: BerkshireTsarina Mar 23, 2008 10:43 PM

                    Droste is sold at my local PW grocery store, which I bought a couple of weeks ago. Also, Peet's has a Dutch Cocoa. I haven't tried it yet, as the couple of times I wanted to buy it my local Peet's was out (around the holidays).

                    www.peets.com/shop/essentials_detail....

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                      Caitlin McGrath RE: smlee Mar 24, 2008 07:33 PM

                      Peets's cocoa is excellent.

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                        smlee RE: Caitlin McGrath Mar 24, 2008 10:30 PM

                        Good to know! They had it in stock the last time I was there, but I had already purchased another box of Droste...m/b it's time for me to pick one up & try making 2 batches of brownies to see if there's a difference between the two...

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                      rashal RE: BerkshireTsarina Mar 28, 2008 08:08 PM

                      I am making a recipe tomorrow that calls for Dutch Chocolate so found this message board when trying to determine what is Dutch Chocolate. My company sells Green & Black organic chocolate and I just looked it up and found the cocoa powder is "dutched". I have two G&B cocoa powders in my drawer at work so going to try it tomorrow. Yeah! No need to spend extra money. Usually G&B is too bitter for my tastes so I am hoping the cocoa powder is as good as others in the market.

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