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<topic>
  <id>496227</id>
  <title>Belgique cookware</title>
  <published_at>Wed Mar 05 22:04:54 -0800 2008</published_at>
  <post_count>21</post_count>
  <board>
    <id>41</id>
    <name>Cookware</name>
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  <posts>
    <post>
      <post>
        <level>0</level>
        <id>3464808</id>
        <content>Does anyone have any experiences to share with Belgique cookware from Macys?  I got an 11" stainless steel skillet with the copper bottom and a small stainless sauce pan with the same copper on the bottom for christmas.  So far, I am quite please with both of them.  Very durable construction, and heat very evenly.  BTW - I got both of them for a total of $30 in after-holiday sales, so I think I did pretty well for the price.</content>
        <published_at>Wed Mar 05 22:04:54 -0800 2008</published_at>
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        <user>
          <id>82777</id>
          <name>egbluesuede</name>
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    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>3464854</id>
      <content>I will be waiting anxiously for replies -- a couple of months ago, I embarked on a resolution to upgrade my cookware and have been gradually accumulating pots and pans from Mauviel, Sur la Table and All-Clad. My mother called last night, said she'd picked up some Belgique stuff ("pretty and cheap," she termed it) and was mailing it to me. My heart kind of sank. So I'm hoping it will magically turn out to be wonderful. Or at least serviceable.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Mar 05 22:46:56 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3464808</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>15906</id>
        <name>Kelly</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>3471552</id>
      <content>I'm not sure what your intentions are for upgrading.  I don't have any All-Clads, but I don't think the Belgique will compare to that level of quality.  But for me, they seem to be very nice and an upgrade from my previous pans.  In particular, my other skillet is one of the low end Calphalons, and I prefer the Belgique over that one.</content>
      <published_at>Fri Mar 07 19:00:05 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3464854</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>82777</id>
        <name>egbluesuede</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>3491341</id>
      <content>Nobody has any experience with this?</content>
      <published_at>Thu Mar 13 22:14:57 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3464808</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>82777</id>
        <name>egbluesuede</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>3492286</id>
      <content>I  bought the 14 piece copper bottom set last weekend. I have used most of the pieces and have to say that so far so good. I like matched sets of cookware and have found that I do utilize the majority of the pieces on a regular basis.

The pieces all seem durable, heat is evenly distributed, I find the handles to be comfortably shaped although they do conduct heat, esp. nearer to the pan.
I did expect this as they're metal so I am not disappointed. Clean up has been easy.

These are not as heavy as the higher end manufactors. I don't think they are marketed as a comparable. I am replacing an older set of copper bottomed Revere Ware and find that the Belgique is much heavier than those.

Time will tell how these do hold up, but at a price of $125 I feel I got a great deal. I am not willing to pay much more for cookware made in China or Indonesia,

I really wanted cookware made in the USA . Unfortunately I found none that are a true US made product.

I was considering ALL Clad but I wasn't going to pay their prices when a few pieces are totally made in China and all the available sets in my local Macys stated that pots are made in the USA but lids are made in China.

Hope this helped.


</content>
      <published_at>Fri Mar 14 08:51:51 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3491341</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>171516</id>
        <name>meesch</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>3768519</id>
      <content>Purchased an 11" copper bottom skillet, nice size, love the design, however, I've followed instructions re seasoning but everything I brown, sear, fry or even steam sticks to the bottom even at the lowest temp, got it on sale so I don't have much invested but I've decided to return it to Macy's. Was really hoping for better quality, could get better at Kitchen Collection or any WalMart or Big K. Not usually disappointed in Macy's but this time I am.  </content>
      <published_at>Tue Jun 10 18:04:06 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3464808</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>199682</id>
        <name>thedonz</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>3769520</id>
      <content>I got Belgique pans about 15 years ago as a gift from my parents. I like them a lot, They heat evenly and clean up very well and still look new. I stick them in the dishwasher without qualms. </content>
      <published_at>Wed Jun 11 06:04:43 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3464808</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>109573</id>
        <name>coney with everything</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>4281822</id>
      <content>My wife and I got a stainless steel Belgique set 12 years ago for our wedding. The set has outlasted everything that has come since. THe type we have has a aluminum exposed bottom that is bonded to the steel. It also has laser welded handles versus rivets. Im shocked to report that the welded handles have never been a problem and never broke. I bought a Sams CLub teflon set 3 years ago (made by Tramontina) and the teflon was flaking off and the riveted handle became loose on one of my frypans. The beligue has been abused more, thrown the dishwasher its whole life and still preforming.

I just purchased a few pieces of all clad recently - tonight in fact - so I cant compare to Belgique. All I can say is that the belgique  been the most reliable and solid set weve ever owned. Our pieces from 12 years ago say made in Belguim. Dont know where they are made today. Also, with the exposed aluminum on the sides, I dont know if they are induction compatible...

As far as cost, I dont think the suff we had on our registry was cheap. If people are getting it cheap now, may not be the same quality or the standards on the board are much higher than our tastes a decade ago. I fully expect these to go another 12 years no problem.</content>
      <published_at>Mon Dec 29 20:19:36 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3769520</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>252495</id>
        <name>tj90</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>3778942</id>
      <content>I have used them for many years and have over 20 pots and pans. I think they are an excellent value.</content>
      <published_at>Fri Jun 13 15:47:54 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3464808</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>68319</id>
        <name>Sinicle</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>3981528</id>
      <content>I've been using my skillet now for the better part of a year, and have it really well seasoned.  Nothing sticks to it, it cleans easily every time, and makes great pan sauces.  I've loved it and can't believe how cheaply I got it.  I'll look for more after Christmas this year again.</content>
      <published_at>Sat Aug 23 17:41:42 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3778942</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>82777</id>
        <name>egbluesuede</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4812690</id>
      <content>I purchased a Belgique Stainless Steel 6 qt pot a few years ago from Macy's. It works very well BUT it is showing discolored spots in the bottom of the pot. They look like rust but the surface is smooth. Has anyone had this experience and if so, what's the remidy?
Thanks in advance.</content>
      <published_at>Sun Jun 28 08:32:11 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>3464808</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>1089221</id>
        <name>AlexCutrone</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>4813722</id>
      <content>Have you tried Barkeeper's Friend?  It's one of the go-to stainless steel cleaners.</content>
      <published_at>Sun Jun 28 18:21:05 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4812690</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>11561</id>
        <name>Cpt Wafer</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>4850065</id>
      <content>Thanks very much. I found out my local Target carries BF and I'll let you know how i make out.</content>
      <published_at>Sat Jul 11 18:42:13 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4813722</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>1089221</id>
        <name>AlexCutrone</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>4850156</id>
      <content>AlexCutrone. the complete remedy is to boil a bit of diluted vinegar in the pan.  Discoloration disappears as if by magic.  The discoloration is a result of overheating, by the way, but never mind; no permanent damage has been done. </content>
      <published_at>Sat Jul 11 19:32:00 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4812690</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>278068</id>
        <name>Politeness</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>4986194</id>
      <content>The only (almost) cookware I use is Belgique from Macy's and have for years.  I absolutely love it!  You can throw it in the dishwasher and it comes out like new. 

However, beware!  I just bought a brand new EXPENSIVE stainless steel ceramic top electric range.  Two of my Belgigue pans have copper bottoms.  I got the heat too high and the copper fused to my ceramic cook top.  I'm just sick.  :(  So, if you have a ceramic cooktop, buy the belgigue with NO copper bottoms or be very careful not to use too high of heat.

Anyway, I live in the kitchen cooking.  I've owned just about every brand of cookware there is.  I wouldn't trade my Belgigue for any of the others.  Hope that helps.

Judi</content>
      <published_at>Fri Aug 28 11:14:46 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4850156</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>1103519</id>
        <name>JudiMorrison</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>5042386</id>
      <content>I'm still using the pan I bought two years ago and it's my favorite now.  I'll keep looking for deals on them and likely buy again.</content>
      <published_at>Sat Sep 19 13:38:13 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4986194</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>82777</id>
        <name>egbluesuede</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>5009862</id>
      <content>I just put my stainless steel pot to boil on low heat and the stainless steel lining on the bottom separated from the pot....I wonder if this is guaranteed?...have had these two pots for a long time!

Thanks,
Tony(nyc)</content>
      <published_at>Sun Sep 06 17:47:56 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>3464808</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>1107352</id>
        <name>pointer165</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>5286802</id>
      <content>I know this is a real long time from the original post, but I have to chime in (boast). I have had my Belgique set, from Burdine's in FL, for over 20 years and I wil definately say that what you see at Macy's is no where close to this. The only problem I have is finding more pieces of the same vintage. This stuff has outlasted numerous Cuisinart and All Clad pieces. I have had more than one All Clad delaminate, flat metal base separating from the pan body. Same with the Cuisinart. I consider thier stuff to be disposable.
Heck, I'm making a a gallon of chili in Belgiqiue 10 qt stock pot, right now. </content>
      <published_at>Thu Dec 31 10:37:52 -0800 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>3464808</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>1136064</id>
        <name>AVShowtime</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>5319063</id>
      <content>I can imagine that quality may have slipped to make modern versions less expensive, but I still am pleased with the quality of the skillet and sauce pot.  Both have performed great for me have become favorites in my kitchen.  I bought a Calphalon skillet about the same time, and had to throw that away earlier this year.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Jan 13 10:17:20 -0800 2010</published_at>
      <parent_id>5286802</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>82777</id>
        <name>egbluesuede</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>5325679</id>
      <content>I guess I lucked out...last year we were building a vacation home and I wanted the things in the kitchen to be nice, but didn't want to spend a lot of money.  Found an entire set of Belgique at an estate auction.  Paid NOTHING for the set and have been pleased.  Lighter weight than some of my more expensive pans.  They seem to hold up well, though admittedly aren't being used as much as my pans at home.  </content>
      <published_at>Fri Jan 15 16:01:50 -0800 2010</published_at>
      <parent_id>5286802</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>246323</id>
        <name>mountaincachers</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>5316359</id>
      <content>I have used Belqigue for 17 years now.  And love it, love it, love it!  I am sorry to hear that some people are not happy with them!  I imagine quality has changed over time.  I had my first problem though - the handle on my 10qt stock pot broke on one side!  They are not riveted, just laser welded.  Any ideas how to fix?  </content>
      <published_at>Tue Jan 12 11:55:00 -0800 2010</published_at>
      <parent_id>3464808</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>1139540</id>
        <name>jandm</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>5318268</id>
      <content>If you still have the handle, do you think it could be re-welded? Maybe a body shop would do it for you for a few bucks. </content>
      <published_at>Wed Jan 13 05:19:12 -0800 2010</published_at>
      <parent_id>5316359</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>109573</id>
        <name>coney with everything</name>
      </user>
    </post>
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