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Dine in Brooklyn--2008

famdoc Mar 4, 2008 06:05 AM

Some restaurants are already advertising their participation in DIB/2008 and are accepting reservations. However, visitbrooklyn.org still has the 2007 line-up on its web site.
Anyone know of an accurate list of 2008 participating restaurants?

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    vatl619 Mar 4, 2008 11:03 AM

    i got to this link through an e-mail i got from my in nyc amex:
    http://www.amexnetwork.com/dineinbroo...

    it has what appears to be a complete listof 2008 restos participating.

    my next question on the DIB subject is -- whats really worth it?? i mean i love waterfront ale house for my burger and buffalo calamari, but i dont think it really makes sense to spend $23 for a 3 course meal there.

    places i would consider that i would think might be worth it would be bacchus, armando on montague (just because its reportedly closing soon), le petit marche, queen, crave?

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    1. re: vatl619
      famdoc Mar 4, 2008 11:12 AM

      thanks. I also got that email a few minutes after I posted my inquiry.
      Anyway, your question is a good one. Obviously, I wouldn't do a $23 DIB dinner in a place normally offering a meal around that price (Tempo comes to mind: they have a $25 prix fixe anyway). Also, I'd avoid the "attitude" restaurants: those that traditionally have treated DIB diners inferior to regular diners (Stone Park has this reputation).
      Just scanning the list, I like Ici's DIB menu and have already booked.

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        gtrekker2003 Mar 5, 2008 06:51 PM

        Where did you see Ici's menu for Dine in Brooklyn? Checked their direct website and couldn't find it.

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          famdoc Mar 5, 2008 08:16 PM

          When you eat at Ici, you can sign up for their email mailing list. They sent an email this week announcing their participation in DIB and providing their menu.

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        EJC Mar 4, 2008 11:19 AM

        If I remember correctly, last year's DIB @ Waterfront had a great BBQ platter with ribs, pork, chicken, and brisket (way too much for 2 people) for $23. Fingers crossed for that again.

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          jdf Mar 4, 2008 02:23 PM

          As far as Bacchus, I used to really like the place for reasonably priced bistro food. Last year, I had the duck, and it tasted as if it may have turned bad and was under a cloyingly sweet sauce, as if trying to cover it up. I've never sent anything back before until that time, yet they kept insisting it was fine. It was a Wednesday, so it was 2 for 1 entrees. In the end, they didn't even comp it because of the 2 for 1 special. They offered me something else, but at that point, I didn't even want anything. In any event, I don't think $25 will save you that much there, and I think they still ahve Wednesday 2 for 1 entrees.

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            ginsbera Mar 5, 2008 09:52 AM

            Adding to this, you dont need to be an AMEX cardholder to make the reservation before the 11th, that's a bunch of BS.

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              Tay Mar 8, 2008 08:01 AM

              If you're willing to travel to Bay Riddge, St Germain, the Pearl Room and Areo have good food and are worth a try.

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              David W Mar 5, 2008 09:16 AM

              It might be a good time to check out the River Cafe if you've wanted to go...the view is the best part of the place, so it's a chance to do so without spending a lot.
              Applewood might be nice as well-I'd assume they'll do it right.

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                ginsbera Mar 5, 2008 09:51 AM

                Applewood was my choice. Just made reservations for the Friday of restaurant week and was very pleased to get an 8:30 time. Over the next few days all the good places will be booked so get on it fast, just dont waist the reservation if its not worth it. Like someone said earlier, not all places really take RW seriously. Other suggestions, Rose Water, Tempo, Aliseo in Prospect Heights

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                  famdoc Mar 5, 2008 10:30 AM

                  I have visited Applewood for DIB two years in a row and have been very satisfied. If tables are full, don't hesitate to eat at the bar. Same menu.

                  Tempo has a $25 prix fixe year-round, so I would not use up my DIB reservations there.

                  Ici did not ask me whether I was an Amex cardholder when I reserved, so that marketing ploy is obviously bogus.

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                    FoodWine Mar 8, 2008 07:50 AM

                    Tempo has raised their menu price, at least the weekend menu price with $4, to $39. Am I wrong to assume that they must have raised their weekday price, too?

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                      elecsheep9 Mar 10, 2008 07:32 AM

                      Tempo raised there prices $4 across the board a few months ago. Sunday through Thursday is now $29, and Friday and Saturday is now $39.

                      However, it appears that they got rid of the supplement on a number of the items and reduced the price on the remaining supplements.

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                      fatema Mar 13, 2008 08:57 AM

                      I'm new to this area, and just made reservations for Applewood on Saturday night at 10:15PM. The only slots they had were before 6:00PMor after 10:00PM. I chose the after 10:00PM slot.

                      It's my first time at DIB, and also at Applewood. The question I have is: what have your experiences been like when getting a late reservation for DIB. Have there been occasions when restaurants have run out of choices? Has the level of service remained the same (if it was good to begin with).

                      Any/all thoughts/suggestions/experiences welcome.

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                        famdoc Mar 13, 2008 10:02 AM

                        I've done DIB at Applewood several years in a row and can enthusiastically state that DIB patrons are NOT treated any differently than others and that the menu choices in years gone by have been quite good. You should search this board for others' opinions, as this thread generated numerous responses in past years.

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                      ginsbera Mar 13, 2008 09:24 AM

                      Rose Water still has some spots open, FYI, they are giving tables 1.5 hrs before turning them over. I understand due to the special menu, but just know so you don't get all pissed off when you try to sit and chat over coffee and dessert for a while.

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                      gtrekker2003 Mar 5, 2008 06:52 PM

                      I had a very unimpressive lunch at River Cafe during Restaurant Week. I'm glad I went just for the scenery and view.

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                        egmontf Mar 6, 2008 09:04 PM

                        I found it's supposed to be March 24–31, 2008 for Dine in Brooklyn, while I browsed River Cafe's Restaurant Menu, it says, March 24-28, 2008 for lunch.

                        Would it be an error of date or some restaurants are always like this, offering Restaurant week service only in weekdays?

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                          bobjbkln Mar 7, 2008 06:48 AM

                          Those that offer Lunch Only, often are also weekdays only.

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                      jdf Mar 6, 2008 03:55 AM

                      Has anyone ever tried Queen for DIB week? I've been meaning to try it forever, but don't know how they treat DIB week. Have done Applewood before and may do that again. Thoughts on Rose Water? Any idea on their DIB menus, b/c their websites don't have them posted?

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                        parkslopemama Mar 6, 2008 08:53 AM

                        Yes, I went with two co-wrokers for a DIB lunch at Queen a few years ago. I don't remember exactly what was on the three-course menu... But I remember that we all enjoyed it, and thought it was a good value (i.e., less than those three courses would normally cost there).

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                        elnorman Mar 10, 2008 09:05 AM

                        Could someone post the entries to Ici's DIB menu?

                        What do you all think of Brooklyn Fish Camp for DIB? However, they don't seem to take reservations...

                        Thanks.

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                          audrita Mar 13, 2008 04:04 PM

                          I don't know the offerings at Ici this year, but just made reservations because last year's DIB dinner was excellent. Was crowded, but every course was great, cannot wait to go back.

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                            krystle920 Mar 19, 2008 06:20 AM

                            I'm a Brooklyn newbie. Only been to Park Slope once and Williamsburg a few times. What are the must-go restaurants that participate in DIB? Applewood seems cool since I'm into the whole fresh from the farm, Chez Panisse type cooking.

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                              ginsbera Mar 19, 2008 07:24 AM

                              Rose Water is quite good and always offers a good mennu, Stone Park Cafe is good as well. Applewood is my first recommendation though.

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                                parkslopemama Mar 19, 2008 08:25 AM

                                Hey krystle920, a lot of reservations are filling up quickly, so don't wait too long to decide. As of yesterday (3/18), Stone Park still had some lunch slots free. But Palo Santo, for example, was totally booked for Friday and Saturday. I would be surprised if Applewood (dinner only) still had any slots left.

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                                  ginsbera Mar 19, 2008 10:58 AM

                                  I believe Applewood is full and Rose Water was close when I made my reservations earlier in the week

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                                    kareny123 Mar 21, 2008 07:53 AM

                                    So... I have reservations for both applewood and iCi. Which one would people recommend? I don't have the menu for applewood but the one for iCi I've pasted below:

                                    Poached Shrimp with Winter Greens Slaw & Sesame
                                    Seasonal Soup
                                    ~
                                    Wild Striped Bass with Bok Choy & Romesco Sauce
                                    Braised Pork with Anson Mills Grits & Brussels Sprouts
                                    ~
                                    Evan's Farm Yogurt Panna Cotta with Candied Grapefruit
                                    Chocolate Tart

                                    Thanks in advance for your help! Trying to decide... 

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                                      krystle920 Mar 23, 2008 06:30 PM

                                      if you're not using your applewood resy and it's on sat night, i would love to have it. no pressure though.

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                                        kareny123 Mar 24, 2008 12:22 PM

                                        sorry krystle.. applewood's thurs and ici (which is now canceled) was on sat.. looks like i'm going to applewood! hope it doesn't disappoint :)

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                                        jdf Mar 25, 2008 09:11 AM

                                        Applewood has now posted its DIB menu. I have reservations for Saturday. Does anyone know if they offer their regular menu, as well. I have to say, I wasn't blown away by their menu. I know its DIB and they're working on a lower margin, but it seems that other menus I've seen, such as iCi and Rose Water are more interesting. Plus, $8 and $10 supplements for certain appetizers seems pretty high, though for an entree I can understand. Hopefully, I'm wrong. thoughts?

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                                          ginsbera Mar 25, 2008 10:26 AM

                                          thanks for the heads up on Applewoods menu being posted. it looks pretty good to me, I mean I haven't dined at the restaurant before, but all things considered $23 for a soup/salad, duck (what I plan on getting) and dessert is more than reasonable. I do agree, some of the supplements seem high especially for the starters. I personally may get the cheese plate if anything for $12 and call it a night for only $29 a person ($23 + $12 cheese plate).

                                          I didn't see the menu as much better than Rose Water actually. Although Rosewater offers 1 more starter and dessert the types of food and variation of ingredients didn't seem all that different.

                                          Regardless, I'll be able to compare as I'm going to Rose Water Wednesday and Applewood Friday.

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                                            jdf Mar 25, 2008 11:56 AM

                                            Wow. I have reservations at both too. Please post back after your meals. You're right, the entrees between the two are comparable. I just thought the appetizers at Rose Water were a little more interesting.

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                                              ginsbera Mar 25, 2008 12:14 PM

                                              Agreed, salad and soup is not as exciting. I'll be sure to post reviews for both meals, looking forward to them.

                                              http://always-eating.blogspot.com/

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                                                ginsbera Mar 27, 2008 07:54 AM

                                                Ate at Rose Water last night, overall a good meal, but a few missteps. I'll make this brief as I will post a formal review on my site, but the risotto was note terribly good. The preserved lemon really just added an awkward flavor to the whole dish, we didn't finish it by any means. I also ordered the caramelized brioche for dessert, it sounded lovely, but when it arrived it was scorched on about a 1/4 of the bread. Now I know they were probably turning these dishes out quickly, but I expected a higher level of quality control from the kitchen. All I could smell was the burnt caramel and I sent it back (even though the host did not fully agree with me). Once I received the fresh, un-burnt, brioche it was delicious.

                                                Stay tuned for more.

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                                                  kareny123 Mar 27, 2008 09:18 PM

                                                  just got home a little bit ago from dining at applewood. i'll go into more detail when i'm more awake, but just have to say... it was a huge disappointment!! :( the restaurant was definitely stressed and hectic, the food was sloppy (altho i haven't been on a non-RW day, so maybe this is the norm?), and the service quite horrendous.. i literally made a point to try to slow down our waiter and make conversation because he literally took our orders and then did not say one word to us after that.. it was quite an unusual experience! i had the butternut squash soup (lacked depth and spicing, tasted pretty flat and was very creamy and filling but otherwise very unremarkable), the sea bass (fillet was definitely on the small side and shrimp underneath were very much undercooked (!), dish was overall not well-executed), and the bread pudding (very sweet, and not worth the $4 supplemental charge). the best part, ironically, was the complimentary bread and selection of three butters that they give you to start...
                                                  sad to report this as all other accounts from years past seemed to be pretty positive (hence my decision to give it a go). please, others that have gone this year, let me know your thoughts..

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                                                    gtrekker2003 Mar 28, 2008 04:16 AM

                                                    I went yesterday and was very disappointed too. I went the year before and it was great. I found the butternut squash soup quite bland and milky. Also ordered the risotto which was undercooked with crunch rice kernels. Hardly any mushrooms in it, porcini broth was okay. The rice pudding for dessert was not very nice. Very blah and I didn't want to finish it. The bread and butters were the highlight for me. It was very fast paced and rushed, and all I could hear were waiters and waitresses stomping across the floor.

                                                    Last year was such a great experience, this year was a sad disappointment.

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                                                      Tay Mar 28, 2008 05:01 AM

                                                      kareny and gtrekker
                                                      That's really a shame. You should let Mgmt know. If they cannot do a good job during a promotion, they shouldn't participate. I've eaten there several times and, frankly, was never especially impressed with the place. The food is always ok, but never fantastic. I've never been bowled over by my meals, nor have my friends. That having been said, I'd have to say that trying a restaurant for the first time during DIB week (especially one so well regarded) is never a good idea, especially when it comes to the service.
                                                      In all fairness, I'd say to give it another try.

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                                                      brooklynsabra Mar 28, 2008 06:49 AM

                                                      i couldn't agree more re: being disappointed re: applewood! i too went last night for dib: the starter salad my dining companion had consisted of HUGE awkward to eat pieces of leaf lettuce, a few random pistachios and a vinaigrette that had not been tossed into the mix properly and had pooled at the bottom of the plate. my butternut squash soup was a bit better, but tasted mainly of cream and nutmeg and i would have preferred to taste more of the squash. i wanted to add salt and pepper to jazz it up a bit.

                                                      we both had the bass and felt it was boring and bland--and the shrimp beneath it tasted mushy. my friend thought her rice pudding was "interesting," and not in a good way. we liked the other dessert that was offered--an apple "crumble" that included tiny bits of bacon in the mix. this was actually tasty and had some sort of citrusy flavor i couldn't quite pinpoint. we also had the cheese plate (a supplement), that we enjoyed--esp. the house-made blue cheese "cake"--but for $12 it only included little crostini type things and 3 cheeses--i would have loved some infused honey or dried fruit or something to make it more interesting.

                                                      i had some sort of apple cinnamon cocktail that i was very disappointed with. our server insisted that the flavor was subtly infused into it, but it was so subtle i didn't taste anything. our service was okay, but it felt very rushed.

                                                      i have gone to applewood for dib before--last year and the one before--and was very pleased with both the professional yet relaxed service, and the food which was solidly good, if not spectacular in any way. i don't know what happened this year!

                                                      worst of all, i'd convinced a friend who lives and works in manhattan to trek over to brooklyn just for this and now have a feeling she'll be more hesitant than ever to cross the River.

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                                                        ginsbera Mar 28, 2008 07:05 AM

                                                        I'm supposed to be going tonight, but now I'm concerned. I think I will still go having never been, but what can you tell me to definitely avoid at all costs?

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                                                          ginsbera Mar 28, 2008 07:48 AM

                                                          My girlfriend and I would likely get the soups, duck, risotto, apple crisp and one of the two supplemental desserts (macademia financiers or the bread pudding. Based on all the comments this seems the safest route to go.

                                                          Thoughts? Warnings? Suggestions?

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                                                          Puppimus Mar 28, 2008 07:09 AM

                                                          I was there (Applewood) last night, too. My service was fine and the atmosphere didn't bother me, but the food was TERRIBLE. The only things that were done well were the scallop appetizer (for a $10 supplement charge!) and the complimentary spreads. I actually felt that $23 was too much for what was served.

                                                          Brooklynsabra is right on about the salad and the bass--in my bass dish, the shrimp were disgustingly mealy and disintegrated at the touch, and the rapini was in various stages of hot and cold. The bass (and the overall dish) had no real flavor. One can easily make better fish by tossing it onto the grill with salt and pepper. The risotto was pretty tasty in a creamy, comfort-food way, but was not a "wow" dish by any means and was both crunchy and one-dimensional.

                                                          The cherry rice pudding dessert has to be the oddest dessert ever in both appearance and taste (which there wasn't much of). I was actually appalled by it and wouldn't eat it, and I ALWAYS eat dessert! The crumble on the apple thing was tooth-breakingly hard.

                                                          In summation, I would say that the ingredients were nice, but the recipes and the execution were quite seriously flawed. Well, DiB over on the 31st, so not many will probably be helped by this -- but if you have reservations at Applewood, know that you are allowed to order from the regular menu (at regular prices).

                                                          I'd also like to add that one of the three spreads on the plate they give you is DUCK LIVER. And they do not tell you this, which really made me angry as someone who doesn't eat any kind or part of birds. Thank god I asked what it was before I ate it, but others might not be so lucky -- who expects duck liver on a butter plate?! Vegetarians, beware.

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                                                            famdoc Mar 28, 2008 08:23 AM

                                                            I've done DIB at Applewood three years in a row and am glad I didn't make resys there this year. My approach to DIB was different this year: with limited time, I only made two reservations: tonight at iCi
                                                            (anyone have any feedback yet) and Sunday at Korhogo126. I'm very excited about Korhogo: I've never been there before and it is just so different from all the other Slope/Cobble Hill joints that it can't help but be refreshing.
                                                            As for Applewood, it's certainly a shame that DIB is overwhelming them. For those of you who have waited for DIB to go there, I encourage you to give them another chance once DIB is over. I've always enjoyed their approach to food.

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                                                              abu applesauce Mar 28, 2008 09:10 AM

                                                              I sure hope the Applewood folks have read this somehow, because I am going tonight!
                                                              Has anyone tried the braised pig? Is it worth the extra $$?

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                                                                ginsbera Mar 28, 2008 09:38 AM

                                                                see you there, I'll be going tonight as well. Let's hope for our sake things have improved since last night.

                                                                I'll be the one sending back food if it's no good!

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                                                                EJC Mar 28, 2008 09:29 AM

                                                                I never felt DIB did Applewood justice - and in years past, the highlight for me was the coupon they gave out for future meals there. We're skipping it this year as well, and instead focusing on our neighborhood bargains, like the 2 for $23 at Chip Shop, and the amazing BBQ plate at Waterfront.

                                                                Last night we headed over to Ici and had a pleasant experience. While the service was definitely rushed (in and out in under an hour), it was understandable and the staff was beyond courteous. As there are only two choices for each course, my fiancee and I were able to try the entire menu.
                                                                The starters were the least impressive things we ate. The potato garlic soup was lukewarm, and the shrimp over sesame slaw was good, but not memorable.
                                                                Both entrees were great - but the consensus winner was the pork. Meltingly tender pig with a crispy piece of skin over porky greens and grits. The fish was nice as well with kale, potatoes, and a romanesco sauce.
                                                                I'm not a dessert person, but I appreciated both the key lime tart and the chocolate cake. My date thought that both were fabulous, but preferred the key lime - as the chocolate pie was a bit too rich after eating all of that pork.

                                                                If we lived closer, ici would definitely be one of our favorite places.

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                                                                  ginsbera Mar 29, 2008 06:35 AM

                                                                  I just dined at Applewood last night for DIB, and let me say, I am glad I did not let the poor reviews of this post sway me from going there. The menu was different what everyone has described above and it was very good. The starters were changed, no leafy salad or butternut squash soup. This time it was a fantastic roasted beet salad with goat cheese fondue, basil pesto and a pine nut honey vinaigrette. The soup was a black bean soup, very thick and with coriander and cumin and topped with some sweet cream.

                                                                  Main courses were also quite good. We ordered the duck, which was on the menu earlier in the week. The duck itself was very nicely cooked, juicy with a great crisp to the skin. Not a fan of the olive and swiss chard as it was just overly salty. I ordered the supplement, which was new last night, a gorgeous piece of grilled veal on top of a bed of shortibs with a chickpea puree and thyme jus. Wow, absolutely delicious. Very heavy and with a little too much salt in some bites, but overall very very good. For dessert we both ordered the apple crisp with bacon streusel. Okay, nothing amazing, but not terrible. We shared a bottle of the recommended red, the name escapes me, for $23. Service was great from the moment we walked in to the moment we left. The bread, as mentioned earlier was very good as I am now a huge fan of duck pate.

                                                                  I'm wondering why the menu was changed, I know Applewood changes their menu regularly, but was it just a coincidence that the original DIB menu was recieved so poorly? I tried to ask, but no luck. My meal was around $90, but on another night it would have likely been closer to $150. With that said, a great deal and a great time. I plan to go back for the normal menu, when I have money saved, but more importantly I would go back for DIB.

                                                                  Tonight is the last night of DIB for them so if you are still considering going I recommend it. The "new" menu is on the website.

                                                                  http://www.applewoodny.com/dinner.pdf

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                                                                    jdf Mar 29, 2008 07:03 AM

                                                                    Thanks for the review. Since you did both Applewood and Rose Water, which did you have the better experience at?

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                                                                      ginsbera Mar 29, 2008 10:02 AM

                                                                      I would have to say Applewood. Granted I ordered the supplemental veal and shortrib I still would give the nod to Applewood. Rosewater had a major flaw in their risotto, their salad was overly simple and bland and the fact that they served me a burnt brioche for dessert did not help. Applewood was a little heavy on the salt in some areas, but not I was very happy with the 2 appetizers, 2 entrees and 1 dessert we shared. Service at Applewood also seemed a bit more friendly, not to say Rosewater was unfriendly, but the overall experience at Applewood was more memorable.

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                                                                      abu applesauce Mar 30, 2008 08:39 AM

                                                                      I had a similar experience Friday night. Three diners: cheese plate; good $23 wine; had black bean soup (terrific) others had beet salad--they loved it; I had veal over short ribs--liked the veal LOVED the short ribs--wife loved rissotto, brother liked duck; desserts were fine. Service-Excellent.

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                                                                  gtrekker2003 Mar 30, 2008 01:14 PM

                                                                  Oh my gosh, I had no idea the butter at Applewood was duck liver pate. I asked and the guy just said it was french butter and one with paprika. I heard nothing about duck liver. It is also totally against my religion to eat duck and its parts. I feel so revolting. I am never going back there!

                                                                  Should I call or email them?

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                                                                    Peter Mar 30, 2008 01:44 PM

                                                                    applewood always serves 3 spreads with the breads. The one in the middle is always french butter (butter, creme fraiche, salt). The other two vary from night to night.

                                                                    Over the years I recall duck liver pate, garlic and cream creese, blue cheese and butter, squash puree, and 3 or 4 that were green...

                                                                    If one of the spreads you had was dark brown and thick and quite rich, it may have been duck liver. I think you would have known it wasn't butter though -- it tastes nothing like butter.

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                                                                      ginsbera Mar 30, 2008 02:25 PM

                                                                      Yeah they served a chickepea puree, french butter and duck liver pate. Without asking they told us what type of bread we got and what the spreads were. Peter, I agree with you, the duck liver is pretty distinguishable, at least enough that you know it is not butter.

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                                                                        Peter Mar 30, 2008 06:53 PM

                                                                        I've eaten at applewood 20+ times and my bread and spreads have ALWAYS been served by Pedro and he has ALWAYS described what they were.

                                                                        I suppose it's technically possible that in the crush of Restaurant Week he was too rushed to recite them or he recited them and one of the descriptions was missed... but I doubt it.

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                                                                          Puppimus Mar 31, 2008 02:42 PM

                                                                          Oh, excuse me, you "doubt it?" How grand it must be to possess such omniscience.

                                                                          While I'm gratified to hear that this was an exception to the norm, I can assure you that when I was there, a rundown of the spreads was NOT offered until directly asked for.

                                                                          Yes, it was Restaurant Week, and yes, they were rushed and people are people -- which is why although it ticked me off, I chose not to make a fuss about it at the time.

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                                                                            Peter Mar 31, 2008 03:42 PM

                                                                            Puppimus-

                                                                            Sorry to offend. I wasn't replying to your post way up above (which I didn't notice) I was replying to GTrekker who said:

                                                                            "I asked and the guy just said it was french butter and one with paprika. I heard nothing about duck liver."

                                                                            What I was doubting is that they would misidentify an item or describe two and completely skip the description of the third.

                                                                            Sorry to hear that they didn't describe the spreads for you -- I expect it was the crush of restaurant week that made them slip up.

                                                                            I'm curious though -- as someone who doesn't eat "any kind or parts of birds" how do you eat out in NYC? Many, many, many restaurants use chicken stock in all sorts of dishes -- rice, risotto, carrots, even salad dressings and fish sauces. Veal stock is even more common (though maybe you eat veal).

                                                                            Do you enquire about every dish or are you ok with stock, just not the meat of the bird?

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                                                                              Puppimus Mar 31, 2008 07:18 PM

                                                                              Thanks for the clarification.
                                                                              About chicken stock -- I always ask about soup. For other things, like risotto and sauces, I ask when it occurs to me, but honestly a lot of times it doesn't. I don't think about stock. I'm sure some chicken stock has gotten past me, or rather, into me -- but no actual meat (or pate).

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                                                                      David W Mar 30, 2008 05:04 PM

                                                                      Re-gtrekkker2003:
                                                                      Do you mean you would never eat any duck, or that you are against the practice which produces foie gras?
                                                                      I'm thinking that the people at Applewood, who source their ingredients from local farms which are free of antibiotics, growth hormones, etc., and free range would probably not use foie gras either...so the duck liver may be a normal liver (for a duck.)
                                                                      If that makes any difference to you.

                                                                      1. re: David W
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                                                                        ginsbera Mar 30, 2008 06:04 PM

                                                                        Just so you know, although Applewood is all about local farms and antibiotic-free meats, that DOES NOT mean they don't have foie gras. They have had it on their menu many times in the past. Hopefully this doesn't change your opinion of the place.

                                                                        1. re: David W
                                                                          Peter Mar 30, 2008 06:54 PM

                                                                          David, applewood indeed does serve foie gras... and all ethics aside, it's incredibly delicious.

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                                                                            David W Mar 30, 2008 09:34 PM

                                                                            But do they use foie gras in the spread they serve with bread?
                                                                            Frankly, it doesn't bother me at all-I'm perfectly happy eating foie...
                                                                            I'm not much of a fan of Applewood-for some reason the cooking just doesn't work for me.

                                                                          2. re: David W
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                                                                            gtrekker2003 Apr 1, 2008 06:26 PM

                                                                            I don't eat duck at all.

                                                                            And the person who served the butters just told me it is a plate of butters including paprika and french butter. No mention of duck liver. I think it was the rush of restaurant week....very rushed and loud. Maybe he said it but it faded off and I didn't hear it properly. Who knows, but if I had heard duck liver, I would have not touched it.

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                                                                              Tay Apr 1, 2008 08:19 PM

                                                                              I'm surprised you mistook duck pate for any kind of butter. Very non butter taste, texture...
                                                                              Moral of the story:
                                                                              If it looks like a duck and tastes like a duck... Etc, Etc

                                                                    3. re: kareny123
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                                                                      marwan Mar 28, 2008 10:52 AM

                                                                      That sucks that you were blown off like that. I'd definitely say try again NOT during restaurant week. For most diners, during the week is the best time to get a true sense of how good (or bad) a restaurant is. Try again.

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                                                                      jdf Mar 30, 2008 08:53 AM

                                                                      Went to Rose Water last night for the first time. We enjoyed it. I had the fired clams as an appetizer while my fiance had the cauliflower soup. Entrees were sauteed pollock and roast chicken. Fish had a nice, crisp skin. Chicken was juicy and good. Enjoyed the desserts of chocolate banana tart and realy liked the brioche. Most of the dishes were pretty good, but didn't think of all the accompaniments on the plate necessarily complemented the main components of the dish. Similarly, liked the wine pairing for $14, but not sure they complemented the meal that well. Service was very friendly, but we felt a little rushed. sat at 7:05 and knew they were rebooked at 9, but we were out by 8:30, as our appetizers came moments after we ordered and our entrees shortly after that. However, I know its DIB week and I liked it enough to try them again when its not DIB week to see what they can really do.

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                                                                        Tay Mar 30, 2008 09:23 AM

                                                                        jdf
                                                                        Your last sentence says it all:
                                                                        "..I know its DIB week and I liked it enough to try them again when its not DIB week to see what they can really do"
                                                                        .
                                                                        I think your experience is a good example of how DIB can benefit a savvy restaurant.

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                                                                          jdf Mar 30, 2008 10:01 AM

                                                                          Thanks. My feeling is that if the restaurant makes a decent effort to accomodate its guest by participating, offering a decent menu (in the case of Rose Water taken staright from their regular menu) and being gracious, the hope is that the customer who hasn't been there before, will see past whatever shortcomings there are due to it being RW, and return as a regular customer. Its too bad that not all restaurants see it this way and either don't participate or do so begrudgingly.

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                                                                            piegirl74 Mar 31, 2008 12:32 PM

                                                                            Im disappointed to see all the poor reviews of Applewood, as well. I was able to get in this year for the first time (for DIB) and was very pleased. Restaurant was busy so we didn't get much chatter from our waiter, but he was friendly and willing to answer questions. With a line out the door, you can't expect too much more.

                                                                            The breads and spreads were all explained to us by the server.

                                                                            Food was delicious! We had the romaine salad and scallop supplement (worth the $10 IMO). Friend had the bass and I had the duck. Duck was perfection. Very generous portion and perfectly cooked. Greens are one of my faves and they were perfect.

                                                                            We both had the rice pudding for dessert and both LOVED it. So, Im intrigued to hear all of the really negative comments about it. It wasn't too sweet and the rice was perfectly cooked. Portion was a tad small (compared to other desserts), but it was certainly delicious.

                                                                            Certainly worth more than the $23 (plus $10 supp.) we paid. I'm looking forward to going back during the summer to see what magic they work with tomatos and corn.

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                                                anna_harlem Mar 28, 2008 09:53 AM

                                                Ate at Rose Water last night---fantastic! The dishes were all taken from their regular menu, and I highly recommend the clams appetizer and the pollack entree. Truly delicious. Among all of us, we tried all three entrees and they were all good but I think the fish was the best. For desserts, the banana chocolate dessert was good but the apricot cookies were better! Not something I would normally order but they were really good and came with a cute little shot of almond milk for dipping. The $14 wine pairing was a great addition as well.

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                                                  famdoc Mar 28, 2008 07:18 PM

                                                  Ici Friday night. Seated at 6:30. didn't feel rushed until about 8:00, when we were on dessert. very good meal for the value. avoid the Loire Sauvignon Blanc...$49 and sweet like a dessert wine. On our way out, the line to get in was halfway up the block.

                                                2. EJC Mar 29, 2008 07:15 AM

                                                  The $23 BBQ platter at Waterfront Ale House is the bargain of the year.
                                                  1/2 slab of ribs, 1/2 a chicken, and piles of their smoked pork and brisket served with yam fries and slaw.

                                                  I want to get back before DIB ends to try the turducken on the normal 3-course menu.

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                                                  1. re: EJC
                                                    Puppimus Mar 29, 2008 11:02 AM

                                                    Does anyone know if Waterfront Ale House has their DiB menu posted anywhere online? It's not on their site ... I'd love to see it. Thanks!

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                                                      EJC Mar 29, 2008 12:59 PM

                                                      Their website is never very helpful :)

                                                      I don't know where to find it online, but I remember some of it.

                                                      4 apps:
                                                      Mussels, ceasar, homemade smoked salmon, ___?

                                                      Mains:
                                                      Lamb lasagna, turducken, kobe burger, ___?

                                                      Desserts:
                                                      chocolate brownie sundae, bread pudding, apple something, ___?

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                                                        jakeyd Mar 31, 2008 10:20 AM

                                                        App: Smoked Honey Wings
                                                        Entree: Stuffed Prok Loin
                                                        Dessert: Apple Brown Betty

                                                  2. famdoc Mar 31, 2008 06:47 AM

                                                    Korhogo 126 did a fine job. Offering multiple choices of appetizers, mains and desserts from their regular menu, albeit in slightly smaller portions, they gave DIB visitors a chance to experience their unique (to Brooklyn) take on French-influenced African cuisine.
                                                    We had the accras de morue (codfish fritters) and the calamari appetizers, the salmon and the seafood stew. The codfish fritters reminded me of those I've had in the French Caribbean and were served with a piquant red sauce. The seafood stew was essentially a bouillabaisse, but with the chef's African spice mixture. Service could have been a bit more attentive and we found the wine pour a bit meager (a Cotes de Provence rose for $8 a glass really amounted to 3-1/2 ounces). To the restaurant's credit, when I raised this concern, my subsequent glass of wine (a Chablis from Burgundy--$10 a glass) was more generous.

                                                    We left full and satisfied. $83, including tip and three glasses of wine, for two. Not bad. Will return during regular menu days.

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                                                      Tay Apr 1, 2008 04:00 AM

                                                      Basically sounds like a positive dining experience. I am always annoyed when I feel the need to remark about a stingy wine pour and the restaurant comfirms it by a proper 2nd pour. The mark up on wine is so huge that it should never be an issue.

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                                                      munny_grip Apr 2, 2008 12:38 PM

                                                      I went to My Moon last week and La Luz on the last day.. was pleased with the appetizers and desserts at both places.. had some qualms about the entrees

                                                      here was My Moon's dine in menu:

                                                      1st course choices:

                                                      * Soup of the Day (please ask your server)
                                                      * Field Greens salad (Local greens toasted shallots, champagne vinaigrette, tomatoes and endive)
                                                      * Sauteed Oysters (with cream leeks)
                                                      * Sigara Borek (Filo dough with feta cheese, parsley, dill and chives pesto sauce)

                                                      2nd course choices:

                                                      * Grilled Salmon (Pureed potatoes and grilled asparagus)
                                                      * Roasted Cornish Hen (with potato, mushroom and bok choy hash, finished with shitaki sauce)
                                                      * Braised Organic Pork Belly (white creamy parmesan polenta with balsamic reduction)

                                                      3rd course choices:

                                                      * Mixed Berry capone
                                                      * Chocolate saucy cake
                                                      * Baklava

                                                      first off, the decor and space here is beautiful.. okay now thats out the way, lol.. I ordered the mussels, my friend ordered the sigara borek.. it was a close call but the sigara won (my mussels were also good though), sigara is also on their regular menu.. next course I got the salmon and my friend got the hen, once again his dish won hands down.. my salmon was bland as hell, his hen was very flavorful and well cooked (crispy outside moist inside).. the desserts, i ordered the mixed berry capone and he got the intensely amazing chocolate saucy cake.. his was basically orgasm on a plate, decadent but not so rich that u couldnt finish it.. mine was fresh tart berries in a martini glass topped with a marscapone(sp?) cream and it was very good but i wish they used less blackberries cuz I loathe blackberries

                                                      now for La Luz, here was their menu:

                                                      Appetizers
                                                      (choice of one)

                                                      Langosta con Arepa
                                                      lobster and rocoto escabeche with sweet corn-cheese cake,
                                                      american caviar

                                                      Ternera con Quinoa
                                                      grilled veal medallions with organic red quinoa risotto
                                                      and jalapeño tomatillo sauce

                                                      Entrées
                                                      (choice of one)­­­

                                                      Filete de San Pedro con Papas Bravas
                                                      pan seared tilapia with ecuadorian peanut sauce,
                                                      spicy potatoes

                                                      Churrasco Rioja
                                                      grilled grass fed skirt steak with chimichurri, rioja wine rice,
                                                      fire roasted baby zucchini

                                                      Dessert

                                                      Passion Cotta
                                                      vanilla panacotta, passion fruit sauce, chocolate mousse,
                                                      caramelized almonds

                                                      I ate alone and can only comment on one item from each.. for app I got the Langosta con Arepa which was small but divine.. for entree I took the waiter's suggestion (churrasco rioja) and totally regretted it, sure it looked great but holy hell it was tough.. I don't know what I hated more: having to cut it or having to chew it.. both were equally impossible and unbearable, geeez.. the vanilla pannacotta was the saving grace, but now that I read the description of it again I noticed there was no chocolate mousse in what they served me.. passion fruit sauce? check.. caramelized almonds? roger that.. but chocolate mousse, definitely absent.. hmph!

                                                      okay so My Moon was the better experience.. and when you are waiting for your first course to come out, the waiters carry around a basket of foccacia and place a nice sized piece on your plate, along with a little dish of olive tapenade.. when you're done with it and your food is still not out they give you more, no charge for the 1st or 2nd serving.. good stuff ;)

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