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What Modified or Value Added Food Labels Do you Avoid?

fruglescot Mar 4, 2008 05:16 AM

Since I got educated a bit, I avoid "FAT FREE" labeled yogurt.

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  1. coney with everything RE: fruglescot Mar 4, 2008 05:40 AM

    fat free anything.

    I'm not fond of "nutriceuticals"--sticking alleged nutrients where they don't belong. I dislike OJ with calcium added, for example. Reductionism doesn't work in nutrition.

    "Natural" in and of itself is a red flag. I always look very closely at anything that has that claim on it, like 7-up :)

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      monkeyrotica RE: coney with everything Mar 4, 2008 05:58 AM

      I personally gravitate towards anything that's labelled, "Unnatural." Extra points if it's bathed in an eerie green glow and surrounded by fog.

      I've been trying to avoid anything with high fructose corn syrup, and it ain't easy. I expect to read labels on packages of underwear and see it included there.

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        moh RE: monkeyrotica Mar 4, 2008 06:46 AM

        "I've been trying to avoid anything with high fructose corn syrup, and it ain't easy. I expect to read labels on packages of underwear and see it included there."

        I haven't bought any recently, but one should probably read the label carefully when buying edible underwear. I somehow think that nutritional value is the last thing on the manufacturers' minds.

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      mark RE: fruglescot Mar 4, 2008 05:46 AM

      the only labels i pay any attention to are the ingredients & sourcing info. i buy products that are as unadulterated, anti-corporate and american-made as possible (the latter being the most flexible as i'm all for artisanal products from anywhere). all other info on the label is virtually meaningless/advertising; there are either no controlling bodies to verify the claims, or the controlling bodies are corrupt, and the claims are not to be believed.

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        bubbles4me RE: mark Mar 4, 2008 06:14 AM

        I avoid water that has anything added to it, flavors, vitamins whatever..plain water is fine by me!

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          goodhealthgourmet RE: bubbles4me Mar 4, 2008 03:26 PM

          reminds me of the new propel water ad i saw on TV. they compare it to vitamin water which contains 120 calories per bottle, making it appear as though propel's 25 calories are a bargain.

          thanks, but i'll continue to take my water calorie-free.

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            chocolatstiletto RE: goodhealthgourmet Mar 8, 2008 11:39 AM

            I saw that- one of the most bizarre reasons to buy a product. If you really want a flavor/quick burst, just add a shot or so of decent real fruit juice and some salt and presto, it's an energy drink.

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              fruglescot RE: goodhealthgourmet Mar 8, 2008 12:01 PM

              INSTANT EVERYTHING
              Pretty soon they'll be selling dried aqua crystals
              ...Just add water

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                RicRios RE: fruglescot Mar 8, 2008 12:41 PM

                Well, Vitamin O is pretty close, and has been around for almost 10 years now.

                "Studies run on vitamin O showed it to be composed largely of salt water as well as a small quantity of germanium, which would provide no benefits not attributable to the placebo effect."

                http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_O

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                  nliedel RE: RicRios Mar 9, 2008 07:21 AM

                  When I'm training hard for a race I tend to have some Propel on my bike, or in my hand. It's a nice change from water. I do it cause I like the Black Cherry, but not because of any added vitamins.

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                    chocolatstiletto RE: nliedel Mar 9, 2008 05:48 PM

                    Oh, I'm not against having it on hand in an emergency/serious training- and I can't imagine my brother, who downs gatorade by the gallon during race season, having fresh fruit juice on hand or caring, haha. (Personally, I go for a red eye before and cafe au lait after races and long runs, myself!) But I just saw Vitamin Water and Propel (and some store knock off brand) on sale for 10 for 10 dollars at the local store- maybe it's just because I'm a cheap college student, but why would most people stock up on it?

        2. nliedel RE: fruglescot Mar 4, 2008 06:17 AM

          I try to get as many whole foods as possible. I don't always succeed, but everyone needs a goal.

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            swsidejim RE: fruglescot Mar 4, 2008 06:21 AM

            I avoid any food product, or beverage labeled:

            Fat Free, Low Fat, Diet, Lite, Light, Sugar Free, vegan, vegetarian, or Skim

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              Sean RE: swsidejim Mar 4, 2008 06:39 AM

              I hate any fat-free or lite dressings, mayo, sour cream, yogurt, cheese. I despise any margarines, only use real butter. Despise artificial sweeteneers.

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                swsidejim RE: Sean Mar 4, 2008 06:42 AM

                I am in 100% agreeement. I also love butter as well.

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                Ruth Lafler RE: swsidejim Mar 4, 2008 03:22 PM

                Good, except that some perfectly good products that are naturally low fat or fat-free put that on the label to capitalize on the marketing.

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                Angela Roberta RE: fruglescot Mar 4, 2008 06:44 AM

                Any flavored potato chip or nacho. Never had one I thought was even OK.

                Plain chips are wickedly delicious. I don't understand messing with perfection.

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                  monkeyrotica RE: Angela Roberta Mar 4, 2008 07:14 AM

                  Some flavored chips work for me. Those "crab chips" seasoned with Old Bay for instance. Or a good salt and vinegar chip.

                  But plain old Grandma Utz Kettle chips (cooked in pure lard) are the chip for me.

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                    Sean RE: monkeyrotica Mar 4, 2008 07:16 AM

                    Cape Cod Dark Russett...

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                  sueatmo RE: fruglescot Mar 4, 2008 08:01 AM

                  I try to avoid processed foods, but admit to using a few for convenience. If I have to buy premade I try to avoid excess sodium. Reading Chowhounds postings has encouraged me to begin making my own stocks to better control for sodium.

                  I also look for whole grains on every sort of grain product. And I avoid HFCS. I also don't see the need for such products as calcium fortified orange juice. Why not just drink milk or eat other dairy? I also avoid most products likely to have trans-fats in them.

                  I do not avoid no-fat or reduced fat products. I do think that for those of us with health considerations, certain modified products work. I do realize that many Chowhounds do not feel that way.

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                    MissMethuselah RE: sueatmo Mar 4, 2008 09:02 AM

                    sueatmo,

                    some of us may choose not to consume dairy, and some of us have bodies that made that choice for us. green leafy veggies and other sources of calcium are hard to eat enough of EVERY DAY to get ones total DV. hence, calcium fortified OJ, etc.
                    all that aside, I find myself avoiding any products with "hidden" weird ingredients ("natural flavors" "spices") or. pretty much anything that I don't recognize as food. Fat free in most cases, bleached white flour, HFCS, and and any animal additives from animals I don't eat. I only eat fishes, so no beef flavor, chicken fat etc. The exception...cheese. You just can't eat some of the world's best cheeses w/out the rennet:)

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                      Sean RE: MissMethuselah Mar 4, 2008 09:05 AM

                      Yellow # 5

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                      johnb RE: sueatmo Mar 4, 2008 10:04 AM

                      Women "of a certain age" who are on the verge of osteoporosis can get some good value out of OJ that is fortified with calcium, and why not--it is the same price as any other oj and the calcium generally does no harm. Of course it can't do the job alone, but it's one more helper.

                      Speaking of OJ and other juices, I try avoid those from concentrate.

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                        pikawicca RE: johnb Mar 4, 2008 03:32 PM

                        As far as I can tell, there is no evidence that foods artificially enhanced with calcium do any good whatsoever. This is just another attempt by the frankenfood conglomerates to make consumers believe that crappy fake food is good for them. Drink milk. Eat yogurt and cheese. oranges do not contain calcium -- stay away from this strange stuff!

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                          johnb RE: pikawicca Mar 5, 2008 03:25 AM

                          What evidence have you reviewed that shows that calcium from OJ does not do any good?

                          You say drink more milk. Fine, but should one look for milk that is not fortified with Vitamin D? Should one eat corn products that have not been processed with lye? Should I now stop buying iodinized salt? All of these additions were developed years, even centuries ago, to prevent serious diseases. I fail to see what the big deal problem is with calcium in OJ. Why is that worse than popping a calcium pill? And anyway, does it do any harm? What about people who can't consume dairy for other reasons? If I buy Tropicana plain OJ instead of Tropicana calcium-fortified OJ does that make Tropicana a less evil conglomerate?

                          I hardly think fortified food products rise to the level of "frankenfood," a term that has been coined to discuss GMO's. But that's another topic.

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                            pikawicca RE: johnb Mar 5, 2008 04:04 AM

                            There have been recent studies that indicate no value from calcium in pill form, either. The whole business of taking a nutrient out of its natural food context and putting it into something else is coming under intense scrutiny: Seems it works in some instances, but not in many others.

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                      RicRios RE: fruglescot Mar 4, 2008 12:32 PM

                      Nobody mentioned DECAF ?

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                        fruglescot RE: RicRios Mar 5, 2008 01:47 AM

                        "PERKING" MY ATTENTION
                        Yes! Interesting point, Ric Rios. It was actually suggested to me by a health professional to switch to a decafinated coffee

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                          RicRios RE: fruglescot Mar 5, 2008 04:34 AM

                          Tons of studies against decaf. This one is just an example:
                          http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2005/nov...

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                            moh RE: RicRios Mar 5, 2008 04:52 AM

                            "However, numerous scientific studies have clearly demonstrated there is no health risk associated with drinking moderate amounts of either caffeinated or decaffeinated coffee, and you can continue to enjoy your favourite beverage with or without its stimulating properties."

                            Thanks for the interesting link RicRios! This is a quote from the bottom of the article. Again, we hear the validation of the concept of moderation. I am glad to hear this, as I am a moderate coffee consumer, limiting myself to 1-2 cups a day at most, and often abstaining. I am counting on moderation to save my "diet". I just love too many types of foods to say "no" to an entire group of foods. My only complete "No" is reserved for bad tasting food.

                            I prefer regular expresso, but there are many places in our city to get very acceptable decaf. It isn't as good, but it is definitely better than the caffeinated garbage one can get from a well-known donut chain that is slowly infecting our city (still at a slower rate than the rest of Canada, mercifully). "No" to bad coffee!

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                              fruglescot RE: moh Mar 5, 2008 05:36 AM

                              My brand of choice at the moment is a brand you might sanction, Moh.......Van Hautte

                               
                               
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                                moh RE: fruglescot Mar 5, 2008 05:48 AM

                                I like A.L. Van Houtte coffee, it's pretty good! I would willingly drink their coffee. And their beans are pretty good for a reasonable price. But I must admit, we are dreadfully spoiled in our neighbourhood in Montreal. There are a ton of really great coffee shops within a 5 block radius, of all different persuasions. It makes it easy for me to stick to my dictum "life is too short to drink bad coffee" (can substitute "bad wine" "bad food" etc.)

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                                  fruglescot RE: moh Mar 8, 2008 08:11 AM

                                  Yes Moh! I concur "Life is (much) to short" especially when you consider all the good things to eat/drink out there. I tried my first half Tetley tea and cocao drink yesterday. excellent blend.

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                                    moh RE: fruglescot Mar 8, 2008 10:25 AM

                                    "I tried my first half Tetley tea and cocao drink yesterday."

                                    Please elaborate! Tea and cocoa? You make it yourself? You buy it? what an interesting concept! But I am sure it is good, having performed a Tim Tam Slam with tea many a time.

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                                      fruglescot RE: moh Mar 8, 2008 11:16 AM

                                      I have only had the man at the espresso shop concoct it for me so far. He has the equipment for a nice steamed milk cocao to add to the Tetley Tea (his choice) I will be experimenting at home.
                                      Send me the info for the 'Tim Tam Slam' by email (On my profile) and avoid a possible deletion because we're heading off topic Ok?

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                                        moh RE: fruglescot Mar 8, 2008 11:34 AM

                                        Will actually start a new thread! Many concepts to discuss.

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                              goodhealthgourmet RE: RicRios Mar 8, 2008 09:17 AM

                              i adore coffee, but i can't have the caffeine later in the day. it makes me way too jumpy & i'm prone to insomnia. but life most certainly is too short to drink bad coffee, so if i really want it later in the day i head to peet's for an americano made with major dickason's blend.

                              the most offensive decaf is always that insipid, colored water they try to pass off at restaurants. it's a waste of stomach space.

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                            nliedel RE: RicRios Mar 5, 2008 03:01 AM

                            No decaf coffee here. Ugh, shiver. Nasty. I was at a funeral and they were pouring coffee. I asked for regular, but they ran out, making an abysmal mix of half regular and half decaf. I asked her to just give me the half cup of regular. I was very polite, but she gave me a dirty look. Someone else wanted the mixed coffee behind me, so I gave it to him and waited for the next batch. I just hate the taste and no, it is not the same.

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