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LOOKING FOR A GREAT BURGER JOINT

I know La Paryse is very good and eat there occasionally although it's a bit of a schlepp from Snowdon when I live.

DiLallo on St Jacques St near Atwater is good value for the bucks ($5 tax in for a tasty burger with double meat). Two of 'em make for a better meal for $10 than what $20 got me at m:burger which is grossly overprived.

B&M on Sherbooke has a decent and larger burger for $4.50

I'm just crazy about burgers.....I'd like to try a few new places to get some variety.

Ideas anybody?

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    The lamb burger at L'Amère à boire on St-Denis south of Sherbrooke is great and you can order one of the city's greatest beers -- Cerna Hora, a Czech-style pilsner -- to wash it down with.

    Meatmarket on St-Laurent near Mount-Royal makes a decent burger and very good fries (mixed potato and sweet potato).

    Unfortunately for you, both are a schlep from Snowdon. When in that 'hood, I satisfy my burger cravings at Chez Benny, whose kefta on laffa leaves the city's other beef patties on bread in the dust (though, strictly speaking, a hamburger it ain't).

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    1. re: carswell

      "Meatmarket on St-Laurent near Mount-Royal makes a decent burger and very good fries (mixed potato and sweet potato)."

      Happened to be in the neighbourhood, we were going to try to eat at Robin des Bois, but it has moved, so we decided to try Meatmarket instead. I had the burger and fries, and I was a bit disappointed. Bun was a bit too toasty and crunchy, but ok. Meat was a bit boring, but ok. Toppings were ok. It was a good burger, but I started dreaming about the Burger Joint in NYC again... I'd eat the burger again, but I wouldn't rave about it. As for the fries, I liked the mayo that came with them. But I found myself picking out the regular fries and ignoring the sweet potato fries. It may be that I am not a fan of sweet potato fries, which is strange, as I love sweet potato everything else (oh dear Miss Louise! How I miss your fine sweet potato pie...) and I love fried foods.

      I also think I tend to like juicier burgers.

      1. re: moh

        «It was a good burger, but I started dreaming about the Burger Joint in NYC again... I'd eat the burger again, but I wouldn't rave about it.»

        Nor would I. Decent is as far as I go, which for Montreal it is. (La Paryse's paradigmatic Montreal burger, the one people do rave about, is a pretty good fried beef patty sandwich but not a decent burger, IMHO of course.) Juicy is good -- and my one Meatmarket burger wasn't dry -- but hard to get with the current "cook it till it's grey inside" trend.

        Strange about the fries. A few specific dishes aside (e.g. sweet potato soup with jalapeños and lime cream), I'm not a fan of the tubers. But I quite like 'em French-fried.

    2. Not too far from you (across from Vendome metro) is Copoli, who boast the city's largest burger. Though it is by no means the best burger in the city, I like it quite a bit. The burger itself is nothing special, but their home made buns are really good. As a bonus, I think they deliver to your area.

      1. If you're ever in Verdun, La Garage makes what I consider the best burger for the buck. Prices never go above 10 dollars or so (tax an tip not included, of course) and you get a charbroiled burger made with quality ingredients, a big plate of fries and nice ambiance as well. If it's important to you, I have to add that I consider the service to be pretty good (once, when I did not eat my escargot appetizer, the waitress asked me if something was wrong and removed it from my bill when I said I didn't care for it! That rarely happens.)

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        1. re: Aspiring Foodie

          I go to Verdun occasionally and tried looking it up in the phone book and found nothing. Can you give me an address? Thanks

          1. re: MISTER_C

            I would guess it's this:

            Garage Cafe
            275 Rue Hickson
            Verdun, QC H4G 2J7
            514.768.4630

            http://chefmoz.org/Canada/QC/Verdun/G...

            Google is your friend. :-)

        2. The Olde Orcharde Pube on Monklande does pretty good burgers. The rest of their food is pretty poor, but the burgers are really quite delicious.
          I've heard Oxford Snack Bar is good too, but most everyone I know (including us) stopped going there due to the less than charming behaviour of the proprietor towards staff.

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          1. re: bomobob

            Pube? lol

            I had a rather dry burger at OO recently, but unfortunately I did ask for med-well. Make sure to ask for medium.

            1. re: bomobob

              >>"I've heard Oxford Snack Bar is good too, but most everyone I know (including us) stopped going there due to the less than charming behaviour of the proprietor towards staff."

              Interesting, I stopped going there due to the less than charming behaviour of the proprietor towards customers. ;-)

              1. re: kpzoo

                Yeah, a real piece of work, that one.

                3 of us were there on a sunny Sunday for breakfast, and the girl setting our table was so nice, commenting on the weather, asking how we were, when the tyrant suddenly storms up to her and screams, I mean screams, "I don't pay you to be friendly. Set the table and leave them alone!"
                We walked out, never to return again.

              2. re: bomobob

                Yeah, and at Olde Orcharde Pube instead of toothpicks, they give you floss.

                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-Gq17...

                pub becomes pube with me, magic magic e!

                1. re: riboflavinjoe

                  Hey....Thanks for the great response so far, considering that I just started this thread yesterday. Can't wait to try some of these places.

                  I tried Copoli once.....it was huge, but I didn't like it at all. I remember something about the bun turning me off completely.

                  My fave all-time burger joint was I'll Etait Une Fois near McGill College St., but they went out of business about 15 years ago. Burgers there were about 1" thick, juicy, delicious and reasonably priced. Went there every week for years to satisfy my burger fix. Love to discover a joint that compares to that.

                  If it's at all possible to include addresses or location....would be appreciated.

                  Keep 'em coming.....I'm just crazy about great burgers.

                  1. re: MISTER_C

                    have you had the burger at cosmos? it's griddle-fried, but real beef and a greasy mess, in a good way.

                    1. re: C70

                      I've actually heard good things about Cosmo's and always wanted to try them, matter of fact I've got the hungries for some burgers right now and think I'll head over there today.

                      1. re: MISTER_C

                        If the burgers are as good as the breakfast, I'm there.

                        1. re: MISTER_C

                          get a burger with a fried egg on top! and report back!

                          1. re: C70

                            Had a serious hunger and ordered three burgers all dressed. They were good and price was unbelieveably low ($2.50 tax in). Obviously a no-frills type of place, small, eat at the counter which means go during off-hours. I would certainly go back. Thanks!!!!

                            1. re: MISTER_C

                              But did you have the "pa-ta-tes" - my absolute favourite home fries in the city!

                      2. re: MISTER_C

                        Scouring the Suburban for the weekly Chalet BBQ chicken dinner coupon (yes, I'm a Chalet coupon-clipper, cat's out of the bag) I stumbled across an item that may be of interest. Mike Cohen's column says that the owner of Dunn's deli has "secured the secret and delicious hamburger recipe from Il Etait Une Fois. It is now available at his four locations."

                        While the timing is a bit suspect (perhaps the owner is a Chowhound reader?) the burger-eating among us may want to check it out and report back....

                        http://www.thesuburban.com/content.js...
                        - see "Chatting it up" near the bottom of the article

                        For Dunn's locations: http://www.dunnsfamous.com/

                        1. re: kpzoo

                          Yes, I also saw it. I was going to keep it quiet, until I try it at Dunn's.

                          1. re: BLM

                            I am incredibly suspicious, but also, very intrigued. I might have to go to Dunns this week.

                            Thanks Kpzoo.

                            P.S. thanks for the response about the cooking classes as well.

                          2. re: kpzoo

                            "Mike Cohen's column says that the owner of Dunn's deli has 'secured the secret and delicious hamburger recipe from Il Etait Une Fois. It is now available at his four locations.'"

                            I had a late lunch at Dunn's Deli (on Metcalfe below St. Catherine) on Wednesday. I ordered the Parisenne Burger plate (hamburger with mozzarella cheese and fried onions and mushrooms; side order of fries and coleslaw). I ordered the burger to be cooked to 'Medium' and it did arrive that way. The burger was tastier than usual, but it wasn't out of this world. Maybe the It Etat Une Fois recipe hasn't kicked in yet.

                            1. re: kpzoo

                              Now that's what makes this site worthwhile. I'm going there as soon as I can get downtown. If I can rediscover what I miss so much that I used to get at Il Etait Une Fois.....I will be a very happy camper, indeed. Many thanks for bringing this to my attemtion.

                              1. re: MISTER_C

                                Well, I just had lunch at Dunn's Deli again. This time around, I ordered the Classic Cheeseburger plate (cheeseburger with fries and coleslaw on the side). I substituted the mozzarella with cheddar and ordered the burger to be made 'Medium.' The burger came out ok, but the cook didn't slap on the cheese until after the burger was done; as a result, the cheese was not melted.

                                I spoke to the waitress and questioned her regarding the use of the "Il Etait Une Fois" recipe for the hamburger, but she didn't know what I was talking about. I then explained about the newspaper write-up, about Il Etait Une Fois...etc. Her reply? "Oh, well, if it was written up in the paper, then we must be using that recipe now!" She was nice and friendly, but not exactly knowledgeable.

                                Anyway, to the cheeseburger itself. It was tasty, but it would have been better if the cheese was melted. The burger was nice and juicy, and cooked to Medium as requested. Though it did arrive warm and not hot (probably not the cook's fault and more of a server issue; it was lunch time, and they were getting the lunch crowd).

                                I've never eaten at 'Il Etait Une Fois", so I have no basis for comparison. Still, it was a good burger, and if you're in the downtown core, craving a burger and not wanting to pay for the more expensive burgers at 'M:Burger', than Dunn's Deli is a good alternative.

                                1. re: Chai Latte

                                  ATE AT DUNN'S LAST NIGHT.....

                                  Had 2 classic burgers just like I used to at Il Etais Une Fois. Comes with fries, slaw and dill.

                                  Tasted like the real McCoy. They've got the recipe all right. I am very happy. I will be eating there regularly.

                              2. re: kpzoo

                                It is clear that Mike Cohen is either full of it, or Dunn's is not true to Vern's recipe. Vern used to serve an honest to goodness decent burger at Il Etait un Fois, now Pizziolle on McGill St. Vern understood that you should handle your meat as little as possible, and make the patties to order from fresh ground chuck.

                                What I experienced today, had nothing to do with Verns recipe. The burger was served gray and almost looking microwaved. The patty was far smaller then Verns, and was compacted, unlike the way the Il Etait un Fois burger would crumble. It was not juicy, but greasy, I ordered medium, this was cooked through with the same gray nastiness as the outside.

                                The worst was that this was not all muscle. There was a distinct taste of organ meat in the burger. Either this was heart or some kidney in there, whatever it was it was NASTY.

                                To call this anything to do with Verns Il Etait un Fois burger is misleading at best. I would take Mr. Steer any day. And at $12.50 tax in. It was a hair away from the $13.54 (Tax In) for an M:Bgr Lunch box, or Mr. Steer.

                                Elliot you should be ashamed of yourself. Stick to Smoked meat.

                          3. re: bomobob

                            Can you give me addresses for both? Couldn't find them in the phone book. I'll try Oxford even though the proprietor sounds like a bit of a schmuck. If he gives me attitude, he'll get attitude right back, lol.

                              1. re: bomobob

                                Do you have an address for the Oxford?

                                1. re: MISTER_C

                                  5630, Sherbrooke W. corner Oxford

                                  1. re: C70

                                    Their location on Ste-Catherine is it still in operation or not?

                          4. FYI, the most recent earlier discussion on the subject with links to several other earlier discussions: www.chowhound.com/topics/433917