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We went with friends to Shan Dong on Friday night. It was my first time.

I was very happy with some dishes and not that thrilled with a couple and didn't like one at all.

First, we all loved the place itself. It was cheery and packed with people. The mirrors across the back wall make it look like a gigantic place. Reminded me of several restaurants in Paris in the early 60's, particularly on the Champs Elysee. When one entered, one found oneself in a vast hall, with hundreds of people having lunch. Then one adjusted one's eyes and realized that the place was just a medium sized restaurant with mirrored walls. It seemed to be fad of some kind.

But I digress....

We were 1 vegetarian and 3 omnivores. We had no idea what to order except for the dumplings.

Mr. Veg. ordered mu shu veg, an eggplant dish, and veg dumplings. The eggplant dish was the star of the evening. I don't think there was a bit of eggplant or sauce on the platter after we finished wolfing.

My husband ordered a chicken dish (Shan Dong Chicken?). It was one of those crispy-deep-friend nuggets things with a very sweetly tangy sauce. It was delicious, but nothing world-shaking.

We also ordered pork and chive dumplings. This was the second time I'd had them (take out a few months ago) and I had the same opinion. I don't know what the shouting is about. My sister loves them (She's been there several times with large parties) and I've read raves here, I think. They have some kind of flavoring I don't like that much.

I also ordered an onion pancake which was a big disappointment. It was doughy, very tough, and pretty greasy. It seemed as if it'd been waiting around for some time. We left half of it. Usually the vinegary/sesame oily sauce makes up for what lacks in dishes...not this time.

But my favorite dish was an absolutely perfect and simple soup I ordered for myself. It was tofu and spinach in a broth. I added a dollop of chili oil. I had to wait for some time until the soup cooled down to eat it without burning my toungue. The broth was rich and tasty.

Although there were some duds, all in all we loved the place. The service was friendly and efficient and the bustle made it cozy. We'll go back.

Next time I'll look for suggestions from the earlier posts to this Board and call my sister. Dumb of me not to last Friday.

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  1. Best in show include the HUGE pork & veg buns, and the hand made noodles. Any of the noodles can be ordered with the hand made ones. I've ordered veg chow mein w/ the hand made noodles and it was quite nice, despite my preference for flesh.

    1. The fish in black bean sauce is quite good. Nicely balanced, very fresh fish.

      Won ton soup with hand made noodles is also very good. And the pork and veg buns are fantastic. They also have a noodle dish. . either the szechuan or shan dong noodles ordered with the optional hand made noodles is very nice.

      Thanks for posting this report!

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        Shan Dong Mandarin Restaurant
        328 10th St, Oakland, CA 94607

        1. I agree with lexdevil, the pork and vegetable buns are amazing and cheap. You could have a lunch just from three of them, and it would cost only a tad more than a banh mi sandwich.

          The Shan Dong Chicken is one of my standards, but I pair it with the Dry Braised String Beans, which are salty and garlicky, and get the Meat Sauce Noodles (much better than it sounds: thick noodles with a meaty and slightly oniony sauce). Some people spring for the handmade noodles (costs either $1 or $2 more); I do this when eating there, but they do not reheat quite as well.

          The Lotus Chicken is like the Shan Dong Chicken, only less sweet and it comes with fresh (iceberg) lettuce to wrap it in. Fun, but I don't order it often.

          Their hot'n'sour soup is also incredible if you like it spicy and vinegary.

          The last time I was there someone ordered a soup with thin egg noodles, what looked like pork, and dark greens. It smelled wonderful. I tried to ask what it was, but was told it was on the Chinese-only wall menu. The server said if I just described it they would understand what it was.

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          1. re: Marc Wallace

            Yes, the freshly made pork and vegetable bun is great, also if you see freshly made green onion pancakes they too are very worth the wait for a freshly pan fried pancake. But do not take them to go it not the same cold.

            There a at least three types of dumplings and if I remember correctly the lamb dumpling are really good, so much the others.

            It is still a great place for a quick meal.

            Around the corner is the Shanghai which has a decent xlb to be eaten there or to go frozen.

          2. one of my favorite items there is the pancake stuffed w/ leeks (one diner @ a neighboring table once asked "what is that taco thing?)... esp. when its hot and fresh.

            My aunt once tried to dissect the dish -- we couldn't figure out how they cooked the stuffing. Definitely not by scrambling the other ingredients into the egg prior to cooking... yet it also didn't appear that they scrambled the egg by itself and then mixing everything together. Maybe a rough chop after all the ingredients were cooked?? Anybody have some insight, since I'd like to try re-creating this at home.

            1. I love the spicy meat noodles, hand made noodles, that is. also, the pork dumpklings. Maybe they would taste different from the pork and leek? I love both of them. The ma po tofu is also very good here. I saw an egg foo young at a neighboring table once and it looked great. The pancakes were huge. I don't know if this was the pancake stuffed with leeks mentioned in this thread? I'm not a fan of the dry fried string beans. My experience is that much of the food that is not noodles or dumplings is not so great.

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              1. re: zenki

                To clarify: there is a green onion pancake & a leek pancake, 2 different things.

                The green onion pancake is wide & flat, mostly dough, essentially a fried flatbread. I like the texture quite a bit: crispy-chewy.

                The leek pancake is a thick, stuffed thing, more like the proportions of a burger. Kind of like a fat pupusa. The outside layer is similar to the green onion pancake, but in between the layers you get the leek & egg stuffing. I daresay it's a more nutritious choice than the green onion pancake ;)

                Really you should try both.

                1. re: indigirl

                  The leek "pancake" seemed to me to have been made with two of the same round wrappers that are folded over to make the dumplings.

                  1. re: Robert Lauriston

                    Yes, thanks for the correction. It's been a few months since I ate it, so was not remembering quite right. It's more pot-sticker-ish. Any similarity to the green onion pancake dough is really only in the fried crispiness, which is what I was remembering.

                    Obviously I need to go back & eat both, asap!

                    1. re: Robert Lauriston

                      Are you talking about jiu cai he zi? Was there some vermicelli inside too? Never knew they served this at Shan Dong -- is it a new menu addition?

                      https://www.google.com/search?q=jiu+c...

                      1. re: abstractpoet

                        I noticed no vermicelli in the filling. They call it special pancake stuffed with leeks 韭菜盒子. There are reports of it here dating back at least to 2002.

                        http://sd.222.to/index.php/menu?cate=89

                        1. re: Robert Lauriston

                          Yeah, that's jiu cai he zi. Some versions have vermicelli, and some are just the leeks and egg. Probably it was stuffed with Chinese garlic chives rather than Western leeks (as with their pork and leek dumplings)?

                          Guess I just never noticed it on the menu -- good to know.

                          1. re: abstractpoet

                            Definitely not regular leeks.

                            1. re: abstractpoet

                              They bury it in the breakfast section of the menu -- I'd been going there for years & never knew about it until I saw it written on a whiteboard, thought it was a special & ordered it. Was raving about it to Charles & he was like, What? You never had this? We've always had it!

                              I do seem to recall vermicelli in it, but my memory has already been proven fuzzy on this item, so I'll stake no claims ;)

                              1. re: indigirl

                                Many thanks to everyone in this thread that mentioned the leek pancakes, and especially to indigirl for noting that it's in the breakfast section of the menu. I had it yesterday as a side to DDM and sesame paste, both with la mien. The pancakes are out of this world. Lovely crisp wrapper, glistening but not oily. As usual, I forgot to take a pic of the inside, but at least I got a shot of the dish when it arrived...

                                Side note: Sweet Booth in PR Plaza only lists plain milk tea on the board, with the other flavors reserved for smoothies. But after some gentle prodding, uncle very kindly knocked up a fresh taro tea for me anyway, with deliciously chewy chunks. Good stuff.

                                 
                                 
                  2. Went for lunch today.

                    Pork and vegetable dumplings were very good. The mound of filling at the front of the restaurant was amazing, I wonder how many hours it takes to make them all. Are the pork and vegetable buns the same filling in bread?

                    Leek pancake was great, hadn't had anything quite like that before. Both that and the dumplings were made to order.

                    House-made noodles with spicy meat sauce were very good, better with a drizzling of the excellent spicy oil.

                    I accidentally ordered vegetarian dry-braised green beans so they were kind of bland.