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Just ate at Joes Pizza in NY and Santa Monica

waxfondler Mar 3, 2008 03:42 PM

Ok so call me crazy but I was in NY for less than 24 hours and had a chance to eat at Joes Pizza on 6th and Bleeker. Tried a slice of cheese and a slice of Sicilian. Excellent!
Once I land in LAX I immediately drive to Santa Monica to meet my wife for lunch. We meet at Joes Pizza in Santa Monica 3rd st promenade. I also get a slice of cheese and a Sicilian slice. Just as good as the NY spot. Only difference being that the NY Joes might have been alittle bit saltier in taste. I was a little drunk when i ate the pizza in NY so? Nonetheless Joes Pizza in Santa Monica just as good as Joes in NY. Crust and sauce the same. I know alot of heads in here hate on Joes Pizza in SM. Just my 2cents.

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  1. wutzizname RE: waxfondler Mar 3, 2008 04:02 PM

    Your assessment is correct. Those who hate do so because they don't know. They are comparing Joes to some other preconceived idea of what New York pizza, or pizza in general, is supposed to be. There are many variations on both. But for its intended niche, Joes is by far the best-of-breed.

    1. J.L. RE: waxfondler Mar 3, 2008 06:12 PM

      I applaud your rational approach in pizza comparison.

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        ns1 RE: J.L. Mar 3, 2008 06:18 PM

        I agree. It takes a certain type of dedication to consume the same pizza 3k miles apart within 24 hours of each other. Even more so to report about it!

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        ldodb RE: waxfondler Mar 3, 2008 06:23 PM

        I was in NYC over new years, and I too stopped by the NY location, and a few days after I got back went to the Santa Monica location. Definitely almost exactly the same, I love both. I love NY style pizza and so far Joe's is some of the best I have found in LA although I need to get over and try Vito's sometime.

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          sloanedone RE: waxfondler Mar 3, 2008 07:18 PM

          OP is a champion who should be exalted. Very good to know the truth.

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            risottoman RE: sloanedone Mar 4, 2008 08:28 AM

            awesome, i must try Joe's now. the one in SM.

          2. modernist RE: waxfondler Mar 4, 2008 10:31 AM

            i did the same thing with langers and katz's for pastrami a few years back....


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              Foodandwine RE: modernist Mar 4, 2008 10:52 AM

              so did I and Katz's won for me....

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                will47 RE: Foodandwine Mar 4, 2008 04:04 PM

                I think most New Yorkers, while disagreeing about what pastrami place is best, would agree that Katz's is not the best (personally, I have no opinion, as I've never had pastrami in my life, but this is what my friend said). Most people like whatever place they grew up with the best.

                I would imagine that the person who preferred Langers probably didn't grow up eating pastrami in NYC, though it's just a guess.

                Same deal with Joe's - I don't think many people would argue that Joe's is the best example of NY pizza. While the Joe's in LA is about as good as it gets for NY style pizza in LA, there are plenty of better options in NY.

                ps - As if a thread about NY style pizza wasn't contentious enough on Chowhound, you have to bring up pastrami too?

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                  a_and_w RE: will47 Mar 5, 2008 10:35 AM

                  will47, I agree with your analogy generally but many NY hounds do indeed rate Katz's #1. I think you'll find there are many more detractors of Joe's NYC. Also, someone mentioned the Sicilian, which I really didn't like at Joe's SM. I personally stick with the round pies with pepperoni, which adds just the right amount of oil...

            2. Gingerleen RE: waxfondler Mar 4, 2008 11:44 AM

              Never had it in NYC, but I went to Joe's in SM and had a very good bowl of Minestrone, I was impressed.

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                Foodandwine RE: Gingerleen Mar 4, 2008 12:18 PM

                they have soup???

              2. Eat_Nopal RE: waxfondler Mar 5, 2008 07:15 AM

                I don't know about comparing Joe versus Joe... what I do know (as someone who grew up in L.A. and thinks NYC dining reputation is WAAAAY overblown) is that randomly walking into any corner Pizza joint on NYC's Broadway and have the $2 Slice & Pop special... the Pizza is FAAAR superior to SM Joe's (where I used to hang out quite a bit as a College Student)... and just about everything i've had in California.

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                  wutzizname RE: Eat_Nopal Mar 5, 2008 07:49 AM

                  Um...maybe you're confusing the SM Joe's with something else, but the one in question just opened a couple of months ago. It's a direct import from New York. Same owner, etc.


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                    Eat_Nopal RE: wutzizname Mar 5, 2008 08:32 AM

                    * Blush... I guess I confused with the other pizza joint in the Promenade.

                2. E Eto RE: waxfondler Mar 5, 2008 08:59 AM

                  Just as I suspected. Joe's makes the same mediocre pizza in LA as they do in NYC.

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                    ns1 RE: E Eto Mar 5, 2008 09:14 AM

                    Thank you for that insightful post. At least we know it's authentic.

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                      wilafur RE: ns1 Mar 5, 2008 09:53 AM


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                        E Eto RE: ns1 Mar 5, 2008 10:44 AM

                        I guess since I lived around the block from the old Joe's in NY and was a firm supporter of Joe's about 15 years ago, it's been such a disappointment since about 2000 or so. Something happened. Either my taste for pizza matured, or it went downhill. I think both. If you read the Manhattan boards, you'll see there are many who feel this way. I guess for the population of NY expats, this must be a good thing. But the chatter around it is a little over the top. It would be like NYers getting really excited if Pink's were to open in NYC.

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                        risottoman RE: E Eto Mar 25, 2008 06:19 PM

                        the slice I had was way too crunchy and wasn't that great. I'll try it again though, it might have been an off day.

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                        smcat RE: waxfondler Mar 25, 2008 06:48 PM

                        I had to try Joe's. Ordered a slice. Not bad. . .then went to Bravo's for my second slice. I still prefer Bravo over Joes.

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