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cor Feb 29, 2008 08:12 AM

Does chocolate sorbet actually exist?

My former roommate and I have been having this argument for years.

Obviously, companies, restaurants and stores market "chocolate sorbet" but I was under the impression that a sorbet is only an actual sorbet if it is made with fruit.

Who is right?

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    Querencia Feb 29, 2008 09:56 PM

    Hagen Daaz (sp?) has a Chocolate Sorbet. I saw some in a showcase a couple of hours ago.

    1. MMRuth Feb 29, 2008 08:13 AM

      I think what makes sorbet "sorbet" is that it's not made with milk/cream etc.

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      1. re: MMRuth
        Will Owen Feb 29, 2008 12:40 PM

        Yup - it's essentially water, sugar, and whatever flavor - and it's just another word for "sherbet." That said, I don't recall if I've ever actually seen chocolate sorbet - it is theoretically possible, but it'd have to be awfully chocolaty to be interesting.

        1. re: Will Owen
          MMRuth Feb 29, 2008 01:19 PM

          Some chocolate sorbets are wonderful - Ciao Bella comes to mind (NYC Brand).

          1. re: MMRuth
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            MacArthur Mike Feb 29, 2008 05:31 PM

            Ciao Bella Ciccolato Sorbetto...not just one of the best sorbets out there, but one of the best frozen treats i.m.h.o.

          2. re: Will Owen
            goodhealthgourmet Feb 29, 2008 04:51 PM

            as ruth said, ciao bella is excellent...as is the bittersweet one from il laboratorio del gelato.

            haagen dazs is passable.

            1. re: goodhealthgourmet
              MMRuth Feb 29, 2008 07:22 PM

              I have a Ciao Bella on my block! The fact that I can't go in w/ my dog helps me with self restraint issues. The chocolate sorbet is a wonderful flavor and, well, I love every flavor I've had at Il Laboratorio.

            2. re: Will Owen
              babette feasts Mar 1, 2008 11:01 PM

              I define sherbet as fruit based (sorbet) but with some dairy, and sorbet as having no dairy.

              1. re: babette feasts
                nofunlatte Mar 2, 2008 05:53 AM

                This is pretty much the way I differentiate them as well. BTW, chocolate sorbet exists in my kitchen in the summer--easy to make with an ice cream maker!

                1. re: babette feasts
                  Adrienne Mar 2, 2008 08:14 AM

                  Absolutely. Dairy and sorbet are mutually exclusive to me. Which explains why chocolate sorbet is always dark chocolate -- but like some other sorbets (coconut) it has some fat without having milk (sherbet I think almost always has fat added in the form of milk).

                  1. re: Adrienne
                    eeblet May 8, 2008 04:19 PM

                    Sorbets are just a grey area, it seems:

                    http://www.chowhound.com/topics/246865 - sorbet can have dairy, just not cow's milk

                    http://www.chowhound.com/topics/309061 - sherbet legally has to have a certain amount of milkfat, sorbet does/doesn't have any milk

                    http://forums.egullet.org/index.php?s... - "I'd say that current American usage suggests that a sorbet is non-dairy, and that once you add milk or cream you have some kind of ice cream. Translated European cookbooks seem to have a broader definition of sorbet, one that means something like "without (much) cream or eggs".

                    Etymologically, sorbet and sherbet are the same word. In the US, sherbet is defined as containing dairy, while sorbet lacks a legal definition. Technically, a sweetened frozen fruit juice dessert is classified by the government as a 'water ice'. I presume that the many things are called sorbets because 'water ice' sounds clunky and unappealing in most parts of America."

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