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I know Gem's spa was sold but the owner gave the secret receipe to the owner though it might have been sold again. I never went to Ray's but to ask for it sweet seems they don't know there is only one way to make it . correct me if I am wrong on that. I will be in the East Village so I can try Rays and the one in Chelsea Market. I have never been there . Is that like a mall?
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re: lisettte
I have never directed the ladies at Ray's on how to make the egg cream, and it always turns out perfectly. Same goes for Gem Spa.
Chelsea Market is an enclosed space with lots of food shops and places to eat. The website has the list: http://www.chelseamarket.com And, btw, the Food Network has its studios there.
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Another strong vote for Ray's over Gem Spa... Last time I went to Gem Spa the egg cream wasn't very good, and the guy who made the egg cream put the spoon he used back into a glass filled with old water diluted with egg cream dregs instead of using a fresh spoon or washing it. Ick.
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The Gem Spa and the Eisenberg Sandwich Shop are my current favorite places for egg creams. I remember the 2nd Ave Deli making a pretty good one too.
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re: vinegarhill
It is not possible for you to have had an egg cream at the 2nd Avenue Deli because the original location was kosher, as is the re-incarnated one. Kosher restaurants cannot mix meat and dairy, and since egg creams require milk, they would never be served there. They can serve a mixture of chocolate syrup + seltzer, but that's a chocolate soda, not an egg cream.
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re: RGR
My dear child had her first egg cream, made with loving care, at Russ and Daughters on the LES. It was not only delicious, but the experience of being in the store was wonderful. We especially loved the white lab coats worn by the staff...it gave a formal, old-world feel to the experience.
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re: RGR
In the Midwest when I was growing up, an egg cream without the milk was called a chocolate phosphate. Is that the case here?
Also, if you really want to go for oldworld European food (chicken shmaltze on the tables for the bread!) Sammys Romanian will bring you the makings of an egg cream to the table (milk, seltzer, choolate syrump) and you can make your own at the end of the meal.
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re: BW212
I'm a NYC native, and I recall that back in the day, candy stores and lunch counters offered carbonated drinks called "phosphates." Googling, I found this explanation re: their composition:
http://www.cloudcreations.com/cafe/so... (Scroll down.)
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re: RGR
Heck, we just called it a chocolate soda- syrup and seltzer. Rarely bothered to order it because the seltzer we had delivered to the house did just as good a job. Not so with the egg creams- they were always better at the candy store, probably because their seltzer fountain dispensed with more even force onto the spoon.
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re: hungrycomposer
I totally agree with this rec. However, if one comes to Ave. A looking for "Ray's," it can easily be missed there is no name signage. It's on the block b/t 7th & St. Mark's, literally a hole-in-the-wall candy store with an overhead sign jutting into the street that says, "Belgian Fries."
Imo, Gem Spa's egg cream is equally as good as the one at Ray's.
The one egg cream I had at Eisenberg's was poor.
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