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subinai Feb 21, 2008 01:34 PM

Hello L.A.ers! I'll be in town in 2 weeks for 5 days for a wedding/work, what should I check out? Open to anything. Never been to L.A. before. Lay it on me! Thanks!

  1. E Eto Feb 29, 2008 06:41 AM

    I'm not sure why people are so high on Musha. It's a decent izakaya, but NYC has some fabulous izakayas, so I wouldn't go to any lengths for that. But if you're looking for Japanese comfort foods, I'd recommend checking out the Gardena/Torrance area rather than Sawtelle (although that's probably more proximate for you).

    If you've been to the Redhook ballfields, you've probably had your pupusas, but there are a bunch of places in LA if you feel like it.

    Regional Mexican is a good choice. Go for one of the Oaxacan places mentioned, or check out the Yucatecan places, like the one in the Mercado La Paloma. Fish tacos are also a no-brainer. Try a place like El Parian for carne asada or even La Parrilla. Can't find that stuff in NYC. Or anyplace that does carnitas well. I haven't found good carnitas in NYC in 15 years of searching.

    Go to Dino's for the chicken plate.

    Go for Thai food at places like Thai Nakorn, Jitlada, Sapp, Sanamluang (is Renu Nakorn open?). I'll even suggest going to Palm Thai to see the Thai Elvis, plus order the wild boar curry, which is still one of my favorite Thai dishes in LA.

    I would also suggest Persian and Armenian food, which is lacking in NYC. Plenty of Persian places along Westwood Blvd. I always seem to go to Shamshiri, though there's plenty of debate which Westwood Persian serves better food. Get some Persian ice cream as well. Mashti Malone's is the most well-known place, but there's a market with an ice cream counter on Westwood Blvd too. Good Armenian places are around Hollywood and Glendale. I still like the chicken tarna at Zankou with the garlic sauce. One of my nostalgia foods. Check out Sahags Basturma for something different.

    I like JetJeet's suggestions for donuts. LA is the donut capital. I'll add Bob's in the Farmer's Market for a good apple fritter. I usually don't leave LA without getting a peanut butter banana donut at Stans either. The fast food suggestions are also solid.

    If you're wanting a quick healthy bargain lunch on the westside, I tend to like places like Rose Cafe (mentioned somewhere in this thread) or a place like Tender Greens in Culver City. I really feel like I'm NOT in NYC when I eat at places like these.

    If you have the time, I'd also recommend going to Little Saigon in OC. You'll have trouble eating Vietnamese in NYC after that.

    For something kind of kitchy in Burbank, maybe try Chili John's. Not the greatest, but it's something you won't find in NYC either.

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      unocal Feb 28, 2008 11:27 PM

      what about pupusas? i'm not too sure how the central american scene is in bklyn these days, but they are SO GOOD!! i'm thinking beverly would be a good place since there's a bunch there, although i haven't tried any yet...and forget fro-yo, just go to scoops in silverlake for gelato heaven!!

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        luv4quest Feb 27, 2008 09:46 PM

        There is a place called Josephs - the menu changes daily but everything is phenomenal. Parking sucks - there is a small valet lot behind the building. Also the cost is up there. Not like Spago prices but its not 20 bucks a person.

        1. steve h. Feb 27, 2008 08:03 PM

          lunch at the getty is well worth the time and effort. osteria mozza is pretty good.

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            bicoastalfoodie Feb 28, 2008 09:27 PM

            I haven't been to OM yet ,but the menu looks very much like Lupo in GV, so a NY'er would probably be wise to skip it so they can get a more authentic LA experience. No disrespect, I love me some Batali!!

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              steve h. Feb 29, 2008 01:43 PM

              i've eaten at lupa, babbo, casa mono many, many times. nancy's place is pure california and a pleasure to dine at. she and i were passing notes back and forth when she first opened. she knows her stuff and tunes her tastebuds every year in italy. osteria mozza is not a lupa clone.

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            fdb Feb 27, 2008 07:26 PM

            Here's a thread to check out re: Santa Monica.

            http://www.chowhound.com/topics/492672

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              bicoastalfoodie Feb 27, 2008 10:31 AM

              SM is pretty boring except for Josie and Michael's. I tend toward Venice - Hal's has a great atmosphere and food, and Joe's, as mentioned before. Abbott Kinney is a agreat little street to walk, though it's getting trendier and more upscale these days. Also try Culver City - Fraiche is excellent (I just saw that Frank Bruni in the NYT has it on his Top 10 list of new restaurants in the country) but you must reserve. Everybody has their personal fave for Mexican -- I love El Cholo on Western because it's an institution and the food is always good. There is one in SM but it's newer and the vibe is just not the same. And Dave's in Malibu is a must since you have a car. You don't get the full LA experience unless you go to Malibu! You might see dolphins or whales :)

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              1. re: bicoastalfoodie
                goodhealthgourmet Feb 27, 2008 10:52 AM

                if you decide to hit abbott kinney, "axe" is another good option.

                other ideas in venice for a real SoCal experience - rose cafe or figtree cafe, both on the venice boardwalk.

                there's also back on the beach in SM for breakfast or lunch. not the best food in town, but you can get a table literally on the sand.

                and as bicoastalfoodie said, don't miss malibu. take a drive up the coast and hit one of the places along PCH. the views alone are worth it. skip nobu, of course. no view there, and you can get the same food at home.

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                  fdb Feb 27, 2008 07:21 PM

                  Rose Cafe is NOT on the Venice Boardwalk.

                  http://www.rosecafe.com/About-Home.html

                  Back on the Beach is currently closed due to construction.

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                    goodhealthgourmet Feb 27, 2008 07:31 PM

                    crap. i meant sidewalk cafe, not rose cafe. thanks for the correction.

                    any idea what they're doing @ back on the beach? hopefully expanding...?

                2. re: bicoastalfoodie
                  Servorg Feb 27, 2008 02:27 PM

                  SM has some other places that various hounds find worth of comment. Abode, Melisse, Jiraffe, Buffalo Club, Chinois, Wilshire, Brass Cap, Sam's, Capo, La Botte, Violet - just to name a few off the top of my head.

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                    fdb Feb 27, 2008 07:23 PM

                    A must-do in Santa Monica is Musha, a Japanese izakaya.

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                    Musha
                    424 Wilshire Blvd, Santa Monica, CA 90401

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                  slowdownmama Feb 26, 2008 05:32 PM

                  all the places mentioned by amoretiqnes above are good...also:
                  Wilshire: good food, stay for the night-life, table out on the deck if it's nice out
                  Giraffe
                  Comme Ca: David Meyers new place (he's the chef at Sona)
                  Whist
                  Josies

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                  1. re: slowdownmama
                    goodhealthgourmet Feb 26, 2008 07:41 PM

                    another vote for josie. one of my favorites.

                  2. subinai Feb 26, 2008 04:26 PM

                    Ill be in Burbank for 2 nights and Santa Monica the rest. I'll have a rental car.

                    Any fish taco recs?

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                      Das Ubergeek Feb 26, 2008 06:39 PM

                      Go to Tacos Baja Ensenada on your way between the two? Not really a lot in the fish taco realm in Burbank OR Santa Monica, unfortunately.

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                        fdb Feb 26, 2008 11:54 PM

                        10th Street Cafe in Santa Monica has very good fish taco.

                        http://www.smseafood.com/docs/10th_st...

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                        10th Street Cafe
                        1000 Wilshire Blvd, Santa Monica, CA

                        1. re: subinai
                          katydid13 Feb 27, 2008 10:24 PM

                          While you're in Burbank, hop down to Hollywood & eat at Lou on Vine (close to Melrose). Closed Sundays.

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                          choucreme Feb 23, 2008 06:23 PM

                          If I were visiting LA for the first time, I would want to go to places where there is a bit of a scene so you can get a feel for Angelenos. My suggestions:
                          - Chaya Venice: happy hour. Used to be a good deal (haven't been in a while), but you'll see lots of pretty people mixed with the afterwork crowd.
                          - Duke's in Malibu: great view of the Pacific Ocean from the beach bar, you can say you sipped a mai tai and watched the sunset.
                          - Father's Office: great burgers and beer, then you can walk on down Montana Ave, which is a very typical west side scene.
                          - Katana Restaurant: be prepared to drop some money, but the Sunset people watching is prime here. They have very good Japanese grilled apps and OK sushi. Then you can walk over to the Comedy Store for a laugh.
                          - Cobras and Matador off Vermont: when you've had enough of the west side, check out how eastsiders roll. This is a lively wine and tapas place. Then walk over to Vermont Ave, which is the heart of Los Feliz - have a drink at Vermont Restaurant or The Dresden: this place was made famous from Swingers (the movie).
                          - Korean BBQ: many of the recs here are good, just pick one.
                          Have fun!

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                            gsw Feb 22, 2008 07:35 PM

                            For typical LA that you can't get in Brooklyn or NY - I echo the suggestion for Monte Alban or any of the other Oaxacan places onthe West Side. Also, travel to Gloria's in Culver City for Salvadoran food.

                            For typical LA locally in Santa Monica - Tomy's burger, Lincoln and Pico in Santa Monica. Drive further down Lincoln towards Venice, and stop at La Playita mariscos taco stand. Go to Tacos Por Favor on Olympic at 14th.

                            Do try to go to Father's Office on Montana for the burger - but search this board for reviews so you know the seating etiquette and how to order the burger - or what NOT to do!

                            Go for drinks at the Huntley Hotel's top floor bar - it's pricey, but the view is to die for! drinks and nibbles won't break the bank.

                            if you have an expense account, try to go to Giorgio Baldi on West Channel, for good Italian food and a chance to see some celebs.

                            Or drive up PCH to Topanga/Malibu for a meal on the beach at the Gladstones, The Charthouse, Moonshadows or Dukes - for food, probably Moonshadows is best followed by Charthouse, then by Dukes, and with Gladstones at the bottom - but with a beach-front table, who really cares about the food?

                            I haven't been, but I hear the dining room at the Casa Del Mar hotel is good, too - also beachfront.

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                            1. re: gsw
                              goodhealthgourmet Feb 22, 2008 08:39 PM

                              food at casa del mar is overrated & overpriced. go next door to shutters on the beach. unfortunately their fine dining restaurant, one pico, is closed for renovations until mid-march. but they have a terrific casual beachfront spot called "coast" - get a table on the patio for brunch.

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                              Kztrader Feb 22, 2008 07:11 PM

                              Ago's on 3rd street.... Los Angeles
                              Chinois on Main Street in Santa Monica

                              1. Skunk2Racer Feb 22, 2008 06:54 PM

                                The Original Chili burger Tommy's! Oki Dog pastrami burrito & Oki Dog

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                                Oki Dog
                                5056 W Pico Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90019

                                Tommy's Original World Famous
                                2575 Beverly Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90057

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                                  JeetJet Feb 22, 2008 06:37 PM

                                  I take your post as a request for recommendations for quintessential Los Angeles foods. A short list may include donuts, burgers, chili dogs, tacos and pizza. To leave L.A. without eating foods from each of these basic L.A. food groups is to leave L.A. without ever having arrived.

                                  Donuts

                                  Peacock Donuts (IMO the best donut stand in L.A. Try the plain cake or any cake donuts, French Crullers, the cinnamon swirl and cinnamon twist, and the buttermilk bars)
                                  34 E. Durate Rd. (1 block East of Santa Anita Ave. & plenty of parking in the rear)
                                  Arcadia, CA 91006
                                  (626) 445-6564

                                  Dad's Donuts & Dogs (Cake donuts, French Crullers, and the buttermilk bars)
                                  2501 W Victory Blvd Ste E
                                  Burbank, CA 91505View Map
                                  (818) 841-1910

                                  Primo's Westdale Doughnuts (Very good Glazed donut and Buttermilk Bar)
                                  2918 Sawtelle Blvd
                                  Los Angeles, CA 90064
                                  (310) 478-6930

                                  Stan’s Donuts
                                  Westwood Village, California
                                  10948 Weyburn Avenue
                                  (310) 208-8660
                                  http://www.stansdoughnuts.com/

                                  Burgers and Dogs

                                  In-n-Out Burger, (Try a “Double Double” )
                                  http://www.in-n-out.com/

                                  T K Burger (A great burger and really great buns too. Across from the Huntington Beach Pier. This is a truly must do burger meal at Da Beach)
                                  110 Pacific Coast Highway
                                  Huntington Beach, California 92648
                                  (714) 960-3238
                                  Open 10 a.m. to 8 p.m. daily
                                  http://www.stockteam.com/tkburger.html

                                  Apple Pan (Cheese Burgers w/ Tillamook Cheddar & Banana Cream Pie, only 20 counter seats)
                                  10801 W Pico Blvd
                                  Los Angeles, CA 90064-2105
                                  (310) 475-3585
                                  Cross Street: Westwood Boulevard

                                  Tops (Try the Kobe Bistro burger with a small deep fried zucchini)
                                  3838 E Colorado Blvd (Between Rosemead Blvd. And Michillinda)
                                  Pasadena, CA 91107-3940
                                  (626) 449-4412
                                  www.theoriginaltops.com/

                                  Carneys. (For the best Hot dogs, The best chili dog)
                                  8351 Sunset Blvd.
                                  (323) 654-8300
                                  http://www.carneytrain.com/

                                  Fish, Shrimp and Asada Tacos

                                  Tacos la Bufadora (I think the shrimp tacos are the best in L.A.)
                                  10990 Lower Azusa Rd (Just West of Santa Anita.)
                                  El Monte, CA 91731
                                  (626) 575-7174
                                  http://www.tacosbaja.com/

                                  Tacos Baja Ensenada (Maybe the fish tacos here are the best in L.A.)
                                  5385 Whittier Blvd., Los Angeles (This area is known as “East LA”)
                                  (323) 887-1980

                                  El Parian Restaurant (Very good Asada tacos)
                                  1528 W. Pico Blvd.
                                  Los Angeles
                                  (213) 386-7361

                                  Pizza

                                  Petrillo's Pizza Restaurant and take-out (IMO, the best in L.A. High quality cheese, Pepperoni and sausage on a very good pizza crust. The negative here is they give you too much. Therefore, you could ask them to be easy on the cheese, Pepperoni and sausage. Also, you must request a “thin crust and pie cut”)
                                  833 E Valley Blvd
                                  San Gabriel, CA 91776
                                  (626) 280-7332

                                  Vito’s Pizza (Very good Thin crust pis & Slices)
                                  846 N. La Cienega Blvd. (Near Melrose)
                                  Los Angeles, CA
                                  (310) 652-6859

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                                  1. re: JeetJet
                                    Emme Feb 26, 2008 11:41 PM

                                    primo's does have great buttermilk donuts. for glazed old fashioneds and apple fritters, hit up k's donut emporium in sherman oaks.

                                    please please please don't bother with pizza here... you have that covered at home.

                                    agree w/ others re mexican, esp monte alban, tacos por favor, guelaguetza or babita (if you really want to drive).

                                    thai at jitlada or sanam luang

                                    ethiopian on fairfax

                                    a quintessential ocean view could be dinner or drinks at the lobster

                                    if it's sunny, picnic it on the beach w/ bay cities deli

                                  2. katkoupai Feb 22, 2008 05:13 PM

                                    Try Shamshiri Grill in Westwood for Persian food.

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                                    Shamshiri Grill
                                    1712 Westwood Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90024

                                    1. SauceSupreme Feb 22, 2008 12:10 AM

                                      I think they should go to Vito's or Joe's, you know, because I don't think there's been enough discussion lately. Things have been eerily quiet on the NY pizza front.

                                      Beyond that, I say Musha and Father's Office are definite must-stop places.

                                      If you've got time, Joe's in Venice Beach is a great representation of California Cuisine.

                                      I also think you should try Pinkberry so that you're ready for the coming invasion.

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                                        ecpark10 Feb 22, 2008 09:53 AM

                                        Pinkberry has already invaded ny.
                                        I saw one next to "rice to riches" on spring st. (near little italy) in manhattan.

                                        Still never been to one though.

                                        1. re: SauceSupreme
                                          goodhealthgourmet Feb 22, 2008 08:16 PM

                                          good call on father's office and joe's.

                                          skip stinkberry - here AND in NY.

                                          for fro-yo, go to cefiore in SM...or if in BH, my favorite of all time....sno:la.

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                                          Sno:la
                                          244 N Beverly Dr, Beverly Hills, CA 90210

                                          Cefiore Frozen Yogurt
                                          145 Colorado, Santa Monica, CA

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                                          MaryT Feb 21, 2008 08:01 PM

                                          My son has lived many years in Brooklyn, everything there seems pricier for what you get. Group dinner parties at home seem more popular for the 20s 30s sets (I guess we did the same thing though) because going out in large groups can be so expensive! So enjoy! Skip the obvious stuff where NYC excels like pizza and deli foods, and go for the stuff we're adept at, Asian, Mexican, etc.
                                          Have fun.

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                                            amoretignis Feb 21, 2008 07:10 PM

                                            That's a tough question to answer! Any particular cuisine? Price range? I was just in NY (Manhattan) this past week. Here are a two things here in LA that I prefer over NY - sushi and Korean BBQ. You are welcome to try them out and see if you agree.

                                            Sushi Sushi (326 1/2 Beverly Dr, BH 90212)
                                            There are many great sushi places in LA but this is my favorite. This is a go to place for Japanese business men. It's traditional Japanese fare and the sushi is melt-in-your-mouth fresh.

                                            Soot Bull Jeep (3136 W 8th St, LA 90005)
                                            Confirmed by me and my NY-Korean foodie friend, LA has better Korean BBQ. This is the "closest" to Santa Monica located in Koreatown near Downtown. The meat is tender, has an extra sweet, savory depth I haven't had anywhere else. Bring your dirtiest clothes, you will smell like BBQ for the rest of the night.

                                            Other suggestions if you're not into sushi or Korean BBQ:

                                            California
                                            - Table 8
                                            - Polo Lounge (celebrity hotspot)
                                            - Hatfields
                                            - Sona

                                            Michelin Starred (some, not all):
                                            - Spago
                                            - Urasawa
                                            - Melisse
                                            - Matsuhisa

                                            If you want NY celebrity in LA
                                            - Osteria Mozza
                                            - STK
                                            - Cut

                                            Miscellaneous
                                            - Pinks Hot Dog (a must when you're in LA)
                                            - Father's Office (best gastropub burger I've had)
                                            - Langer's (LA's best pastrami sandwich shop, but Katz's may be better)

                                            I've only been here for a few years, and the ones listed are a few that have stood out to me. Thankfully there are many great restaurants to explore in this fine city. Hope this helps!!

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                                            1. re: amoretignis
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                                              COYS N17 Feb 27, 2008 09:27 PM

                                              I think sending New Yorker to a hot dog joint is a bit nuts. That's like going to Philly for sushi.

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                                                goodhealthgourmet Feb 27, 2008 10:00 PM

                                                agreed. for someone coming from the home of nathan's famous, gray's papaya, and callahan's [ok, so it was a cross the river, but still local], a trip to pink's is a waste of time...and a meal.

                                            2. Bob Brooks Feb 21, 2008 05:29 PM

                                              Ok. So you won't need pizza (but, if you did, we now have a branch of Joe's that just happens to be in Santa Monica). You also don't need Italian or French. Probably our best offerings would be California cuisine (duh!), Chinese, Sushi, and, of course, Mexican.

                                              For starters, you might enjoy going for the oyster and wine happy hour at Ocean Avenue Seafood in S.M. I can't recommend staying for an actual meal, but the happy hour is a very good deal.

                                              For not necessarily authentic Mexican, but nonetheless beautifully executed stuff, go to the Border Grill, also in S.M. For slightly more authentic Americanized Mexican fare, go to The Talpa.

                                              For high end California cuisine that was among the first to define it, you have Michael's, which also happens to be in S.M. For more moderately priced fare in this vein, try Joe's in Venice, which is also nearby.

                                              For sushi, the selection is endless and frequently debated around here. My favorite for lunch is the great value found at Echigo. It happens to be close to S.M. so if you're in the hood at the right time it's a no brainer. As for other sushi options just surf the posting here, depending on what part of town you need to be in for the meal.

                                              For Chinese, you must drive. But it's worth it. There are a million posts here about the great places in the San Gabriel Valley, including a post just a small scroll down from yours about finding great dim sum.

                                              1. Das Ubergeek Feb 21, 2008 01:35 PM

                                                I'm sorry, what's BK? Bangkok? Burbank? Bakersfield? Bishkek? Burger King? It'll help us. Also if you tell us what area you're staying in. LA's not an easy city to cross.

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                                                1. re: Das Ubergeek
                                                  subinai Feb 21, 2008 01:39 PM

                                                  Ack, Sorry. BK is Brooklyn, NY.

                                                  I'll be in Santa Monica area.

                                                  1. re: subinai
                                                    goodhealthgourmet Feb 21, 2008 01:49 PM

                                                    we need way more info about what you're looking for re: cuisine, price range, vibe, how far you're willing to travel, etc.

                                                    assume you'll have a car...?

                                                    maybe if you tell us some of your faves in NY we can get a better sense of what you'd like...

                                                    1. re: subinai
                                                      Das Ubergeek Feb 21, 2008 02:04 PM

                                                      Musha for Japanese izakaya-style (I really don't want to get into whether it's actually an izakaya) food; Monte Alban in West LA for fantastic Oaxacan food. Those spring immediately to mind.

                                                      1. re: Das Ubergeek
                                                        goodhealthgourmet Feb 21, 2008 04:25 PM

                                                        a trip to one of the restaurants along the sawtelle corridor would probably be a good idea...maybe bar hayama?

                                                    2. re: Das Ubergeek
                                                      J.L. Feb 22, 2008 05:23 PM

                                                      Bangkok is BKK. Just to clarify...

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