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jan Feb 20, 2008 02:24 PM

I am very thrilled to have a meager day in KC, but can't wait for some 'Q'. Been a long winter in Chicago. Since I'll only have one night, I think, but possibly two, I want to have what the experts here feel is a don't miss place! Then it's off for the 5 hour drive to St. Louis, wheee!

Thanks!

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    goroe Feb 20, 2008 02:45 PM

    there should be plenty of comment about where to eat bbq while visiting in kc, but since you're headed east to St Louis-- pick up some LC's to-go for the drive.

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      sigerson57 Feb 20, 2008 07:53 PM

      LC's left me very unimpressed, but then, I don't eat ribs. Strictly a burnt-ends guy. Theirs were not as crunchy and chewy as I like. I suppose I'll give 'em another shot, but for now, and for burnt ends and beans:

      #1 Jack Stack's
      #2 Smokestack north of KC
      #3 Smokestack on Wornall

      Reminds me, I should pass near #2 tomorrow on the way to the airport. Can you take BBQ on a plane? Seriously. The airlines might think it sloppy and smelly.

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        happyhomemaker May 19, 2009 08:41 PM

        #2 Smokestack north of KC???? Could you be referring to Smokehouse Bar-B-Que in Gladstone on N. Oak or in Zona Rosa? I'm just not aware of a Smokestack north of the river.

        I have to agree with you, if it's Smokehouse you're referring to. I love their baby back ribs and burnt ends. Oh, and the Gladstoner sandwich, yum! They also have the best baked beans.

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        bbq_lover Feb 27, 2008 04:14 PM

        LC's is the most overrated place in town. I don't understand why people like it so much. If you in that area do yourself a favor and go to Big T's instead. LC's is full of fatty meat, Big T's is nothing but tender flavorful meat. Best burnt ends in town. For the past year my dad and I have eaten bbq every weekend, I have been to 90% of the places in KC and Big T's is hands down the best. Great baked beans with pieces of meat in the sauce, with each plate of food you get a heated cup of bbq sauce that is unbelievable.

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          jdl98 Feb 28, 2008 05:50 AM

          agreed on the fatty factor. mcgonigles has some great sliced brisket, ribs, chicken, sausage (haven't had that yet) and smoked salmon...in their deli case every day. Where is Big T's?

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            bbq_lover Feb 28, 2008 08:36 AM

            one Big T's location is on blue parkway about two minutes from LC's. if you head towards raytown from LC's you will see T's on your right, it is where Niecie's used to be. I am not sure if anyone is familiar with an old bbq place called Oscars? Big T's is in the same location and is owned by Oscar's son.

            6201 Blue Pkwy, Kansas City, MO

            the other location is near bannister mall on blue ridge, it isn't nearly as nice as the new location on blue parkway.

            6201 Blue Pkwy, Kansas City, MO

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              magic Feb 12, 2009 07:47 AM

              Is Niecie's no longer there??

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                kb8240 May 7, 2009 11:23 AM

                I seriously think that the LC's myth is all about hungry commuters who drive by it every afternoon. Smelling, but unable to actually eat it.

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              Bobfrmia Feb 28, 2008 08:33 AM

              You might have just hit on why I find LC's the best. The fat. I haven't had any that were "Full" of fatty meat, but they do have more than any other place I've tried.
              Fat = Flavor. Fat = a little greasy. That's how I like my Burnt Ends. Every other place I've had them comes across as just lean, somewhat dry, brisket that rather than sliced, is cubed.
              LC's are a different food entirely.

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                bbq_lover Feb 28, 2008 08:37 AM

                I agree some fat is ok, last time I got a sandwich at LC's it was about 1/3 pure fat, and not the good tasty kind of fat.

          2. reubensandperrier Feb 20, 2008 08:20 PM

            Lifelong BBQ lover and KC res:

            #1: Arthur Bryants on Brooklyn (forget the haters)
            #2: Jack Stack's Freighthouse
            #3: Oklahoma Joe's

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            Arthur Bryant's Barbeque
            1727 Brooklyn Ave, Kansas City, MO 64127

            Oklahoma Joe's BBQ & Catering
            3002 W 47th Ave, Kansas City, KS 66103

            Fiorella's Jack Stack Barbeque
            101 W 22nd St Ste 300, Kansas City, MO 64108

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              jdl98 Feb 20, 2008 08:26 PM

              Jack Stack is "nicer" and really good. Arthur Bryants is hardcore and really good. I do love Smokehouse on Wornall, too. But I can easily pick it up and take it home - not a great atmosphere but, then again, most BBQ places don't have that. LC's...good but I haven't been crazy about it lately.

            2. hill food Feb 20, 2008 08:24 PM

              can't comment on KC Q. but if you're unfamiliar with the drive to STL, whatever you do, don't speed through the county just West of Columbia (Boonville is the county seat - nice town, but that part of 70 is a total speed trap) instead take 50 if it's an option (much more scenic and really only a half hour or so more anyway) and stop in Sedalia for a burger if that place is still around. can't miss it, a drive-in right on the main drag, which is what 50 turns into before heading out of town.

              and check out the BBQ in STL while there, it's not all Tony Roma's (ecch). it's more of a Memphis 'wet' than KC, but they all have their own merits. (I don't want to start any 'which is better' comparisons) - as long as there are pits and sauce, the world is big enough for us all.

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                steveb Feb 21, 2008 07:57 AM

                I hate to disagree with Hill Food, but the 50 highway route across Missouri takes wayyy longer than the 70 route. Going the speed limit, you can get from KC to STL in four hours. Now once you are in the STL, that's another story. One of their main interstates is completely shut down for improvements. If you do go to Sedalia, the Wheel Inn is no longer at their old location but further south on 65 on the left. Home of the GooberBurger. Columbia is halfway on the 70 route and has a number of chow-worthy restaurants. And skip the Q in STL. Fill up in KC.

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                  hill food Feb 21, 2008 10:27 AM

                  I forgot the name, saw that on the other thread and at first was disheartened, Wheel-Inn rocks.

                  ok so 50 does take much longer in real minutes, but it's much more fun than 70. how else would I have found places like the Wheel-Inn? and conversely I would never have attempted 87 MPH in a 55 on 50, as I did one sunny January day on I-70 outside of Boonville (idiot - I knew the area better than that).

                  I-64/40 is what is closed in STL between (I think) 270 and 170.

                  as far as the BBQ comment - I'm not going to get into a shoving match, I'd rather study the influences and I think the differences in such a relatively close proximity are interesting. Texas owes a lot to KC and STL owes a lot to places lower on the Mississippi. where in the heck the Carolinas came up with a mustard based sauce is beyond me, but that's good too.

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                    nskadra Feb 22, 2008 01:55 PM

                    Don't forget the vinegar based bbq in North Carolina - many there will kill you for it anyday over mustard-based.

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                      sigerson57 Feb 23, 2008 01:53 PM

                      Sorry, Hill Food. If my reports are correct, Wheel Inn is no more. http://www.thelope.com/2007/08/wheeli....

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                        hill food Feb 24, 2008 02:16 PM

                        NO!! say it ain't so. someone just posted here on another thread it only moved...

                        http://www.chowhound.com/topics/421496

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                          sigerson57 Feb 24, 2008 06:04 PM

                          I saw that thread, too. Maybe the place has received a temporary reprieve. Construction projects always start later and cost more than planned.

                          Progress stinks.

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                            sigerson57 Feb 24, 2008 06:05 PM

                            This answers the question. There's a new Wheel Inn. http://www.missourinet.com/gestalt/go...

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                              hill food Feb 24, 2008 11:51 PM

                              danke, or more properly Viel Danks.

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                            amy_rc Mar 16, 2009 06:25 AM

                            I ate at the Wheel Inn's new location in early October. It just moved but it still has the same great menu

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                            Jaymes Jul 18, 2009 09:19 PM

                            "Texas owes a lot to KC..."

                            Right. Nobody in Texas can forget how that good ol' Kansas City boy, Arthur Bryant, started it all when he came down from Missouri to Texas to open a 'cue joint and show the local folks how to do it way back in...

                            Oh wait...

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                              powillie Jul 21, 2009 12:47 AM

                              Jaymes, like most Texans, it seems that your opinion needs a dose of reality. Way back when, Charlie Bryant came to KC with a technique of smoked meats and a sauce recipe that was so overwhelmingly hot that no one could eat it. His younger brother, Arthur and his contempories took this technique and refined it to create the World's Greatest Barbeque.

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                                Jaymes Jul 21, 2009 08:28 AM

                                Oh, I'm sorry.

                                And where was Arthur, who "refined the technique," from again?

                                I guess that's where I'm mistaken when I say that I strongly doubt Texas "owes a lot to KC."

                                I think Texas barbecue owes nothing to KC. And that, in fact, KC owes a lot to Texas.

                                Although as I've said elsewhere, if we're comparing the two regions today, I think it's about even.

                                But saying that Texas barbecue owes a lot to KC (even if we overlook that sickeningly sweet sauce y'all seem so proud of) is flat wrong.

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                                  Jaymes Jul 22, 2009 05:12 PM

                                  I just want to add something -

                                  It's one thing to say that you prefer Kansas City barbecue over Texas, or anyone else's. That's subjective. And most people, certainly I, will respect your opinion, assuming you've sampled enough of whatever product you're discussing to understand the differences.

                                  But saying that "Texas owes a lot to KC" is a statement of fact. Which is either true or untrue. I'm not a food historian, and I haven't done extensive research, but I do know that the best and most representative barbecue in Texas is in Central Texas, in places like Kreuz Market, founded in 1900 by German immigrants that missed the smoked meats of their homeland.

                                  So it's impossible for me to understand how a bunch of homesick Germans that began smoking meats in Central Texas around the turn of the last century using the traditional methods they learned in the Old Country owes anything at all to Kansas City, a city over 750 miles away, where folks began cooking 'cue decades later.

                                  Perhaps Texans are not the ones that "need a dose of reality."

                                  Of course, if you have any empirical evidence to the contrary, I'll have no problem admitting I'm wrong.

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                                    chileheadmike Jul 22, 2009 06:22 PM

                                    Not saying anyone owes anyone anything but.... Henry Perry started barbecuing in Kansas City about 1907 or so.

                                    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Perry

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                                      Jaymes Jul 22, 2009 06:47 PM

                                      And perhaps "not saying anyone owes anyone" is the best answer.

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                                        amy_rc Jul 22, 2009 07:39 PM

                                        Yawn.

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                              bbq_lover Feb 27, 2008 04:17 PM

                              i went to Stl and searched high and low for decent bbq places, didn't find any. ate at three and wouldn't recommend them to my enemy. To reply to the Sedalia bbq.. if you are on 50 and go through Sedalia then you will also go through Warrensburg, home of Perry Foster's Georgia Style BBQ. Take the highway 13 exit off of 50 and head towards town.

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                                hill food Feb 27, 2008 09:57 PM

                                you won't find them, they're in really crappy neighborhoods and are usu. just a guy with a homemade smoker at the height of summer on the edge of a strip mall half-occupied by dollar stores. but this thread is about KC and I don't want to hijack it.

                                I may have to stop in Warrensburg next time I go that route...

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                                  bbq_lover Feb 28, 2008 08:39 AM

                                  I would definitely recommend the warrensburg trip. if you order a double sandwich good luck on finishing it. Perry also has sweet potato fries, very tasty

                                  Perry Foster Bar-B-Que‎
                                  1201 S Highway 13, Warrensburg, MO
                                  (660) 429-6077

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                                  asiansensation007 Feb 28, 2008 08:49 AM

                                  I dunno...i used to go to school in warrensburg. the town is really small and you can eat your way through in about 2 weeks...

                                  perry fosters was definately not high on my list...or anybodys for that matter. the meat is DRY and gristly. The sweet potato fries are great, but I was turned off by the buzzing flies the few times I visited.

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                                    bbq_lover Feb 28, 2008 08:56 AM

                                    well i can't argue with the flies, to me that was part of the atmosphere. as far as the meat being dry, not sure how that is possible when it comes covered in sauce. it is about 40 minutes from me and i still drive down there sometimes just to eat. i went to school there for a year and ate there regularly as did all of my friends. when jeff george was in the nfl, george would call perry and have him come to town kc with enough bbq for his entire team.

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                                chileheadmike Feb 21, 2008 01:09 PM

                                LC's Burnt Ends
                                Gates (Not everyone's favorite)
                                OK Joe's

                                I'm not a fan of Jacks, there's little smoke flavor in their barbecue and I don't care for their brisket.

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                                  Bobfrmia Feb 21, 2008 03:09 PM

                                  LC's Burnt ends. Agreed. A picture speaks a thousand words.

                                  http://www.extramsg.com/modules.php?n...

                                2. Irishbeer4me Feb 21, 2008 04:47 PM

                                  1. LC's (Best burn ends in town)
                                  2. Oklahoma Joe's (Just good bbq all the way around)
                                  3. Jack Stack(Just for the lamb)

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                                    Milt Feb 23, 2008 01:44 PM

                                    If the timing fits with your travel, I would suggest trying Biffle's Smoke House B-B-Q in Concordia. It is a half block off the street just south of the I-70 Concordia exit. We had one of the better meals we have ever had between Kansas City and Saint Louis in December.

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                                      jan Feb 23, 2008 02:52 PM

                                      Great, thanks. Ironically, we are flying into KC and driving to Concordia for a morning meeting!

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                                        mech_e Feb 24, 2008 02:58 PM

                                        Here's another vote for Biffle's. I need an excuse to get down there for some more. Its out of the way when you're headed to Stl, but a stop in Cuba at Missouri Hick would also be some time well spent eating BB and Q.

                                        http://tinyurl.com/39yqwx

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                                      ccbraley Feb 25, 2008 06:09 PM

                                      Oklahoma Joe's, for sure, for an all around good BBQ experience. The 47th Street location has the original "gas station" ambiance (I'm not kidding, it's located inside a gas station), but if you're in the Olathe area, there is also one at 119th & Strang Line. http://www.oklahomajoesbbq.com/

                                      Jack Stack BBQ for their beans alone. Best in town! http://www.jackstackbbq.com/

                                      And you gotta go to Gates BBQ, again for the ambiance. The greeting/scream when you enter the door "HI MAY I HELP YOU?!?!?" is worth the trip. Definitely get the ribs there.

                                      Overall, avoid any sort of chain (Tony Roma's anyone?) and you should be fine in KC. Bad BBQ places just don't last long here.

                                      Enjoy!!!

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                                        zataar Feb 25, 2008 06:30 PM

                                        Plenty of bad BBQ places last in KC. Famous Dave's, anyone? Gates is still around, they're not so great. I would recommend LC's. Arthur Bryant's for the KC experience. Has anyone mentioned Smoking Guns? That's a really good place.

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                                          ccbraley Feb 25, 2008 06:34 PM

                                          Some people actually claim to like Famous Dave's. Bleck. It's a chain. 'nuff said.

                                          Arthur Bryant's is good too, although a bit pricey. Haven't heard of Smoking Guns. I'll have to check that one out! ...so hungry now.

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                                            chileheadmike Feb 26, 2008 12:27 PM

                                            I like Gates. Their brisket is some of the best in KC. Good ribs too. Although I don't choose a barbecue for sides, their fries are the best in town. I'm glad its still around. I think its light years ahead of Jack's Stack.

                                            If we're talking bad KC barbecue I submit Haywards and KC Masterpiece Zarda and Wyandotte.

                                            My wife like Famous Dave's, Yuck. At least I can eat the catfish

                                            I thought it was pretty funny when Roma's opened a place in KC and proclaimed themselves to have the best ribs in KC. Laughable.

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                                            hill food Feb 25, 2008 09:49 PM

                                            Roma's - I shudder in shame that Roma's claims to be representative of STL. Your (KC) tradition has only been sidetracked by Masterpiece (which is a good sauce - not the be-all or end-all, but good for retail) and not hijacked by like the franchise thugs that took Roma's and Gallardo national.

                                            I still maintain the best BBQ is found on the edge of parking lots wherever you are.

                                          3. KellyInKC Feb 12, 2009 08:17 AM

                                            Jack Stack - their sides are amazing too...beans, cheesy corn bake
                                            Oklahoma Joes - the Z-Man is fabulous
                                            American Royal BBQ Contest - I know it's not a restaurant, but going and eating all the different BBQ is such an amazing expereince.

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                                              powillie Feb 12, 2009 07:15 PM

                                              Everyone here mentions the same few restaurants and while they are very good, these joints are only a small portion of the of the Kansas City Barbeque experience. How about Earl Quick's on Merriam Lane? Good Que, other sandwiches and excellent fries. Worth trying. Rosedale Barbeque on Southwest Blvd. has been there for ages. I remember eating there with my parents many decades ago. The last time that I ate there, it was a very pleasant experience. How about RJ'S Bob-be-que on Lamar in Mission? Personally I have have never been, but my daughter tells me that it is quite good and they have live music. What about BB's Lawnside BBQ? Barbeque and Blues, made for each other. I am sure that other parts of town have their own barbeque treasures that I am not aware of but I am really interested in trying. KansasCity Barbeque is not limited to a handful of joints, it is an everyday experience, an unique part of living in our city.

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                                                KansasTravel Feb 13, 2009 05:25 AM

                                                Thanks for bringing up this year old thread. I hadn't read it before.

                                                Rather than rehash the places already mentioned, I will join powillie in mentioning a place that isn't getting the level of attention it deserves - Brobecks Barbeque in Overlland Park. Just off 435 and Roe.

                                                Very good ribs and great sides. Also a dish a meat I haven't seen anywhere else - smoked ham salad. http://www.kansastravel.org/overlandp...

                                                Fans of spicy smoked chicken wings will like Smokin Joe's Bar BQ on Southwest Blvd in Kansas City.

                                                RJ's Bob-Be-Que Shack is inconsistant but adds its own unique twist to the KC Que scene. It is a place for southern cooking and breakfasts on Saturday and Sunday.

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                                                  kcstarguy Feb 13, 2009 07:19 PM

                                                  Bobfrmia I echo you.
                                                  I have to agree that LC is the best place so far that I have found in KC. What I liked was the meaty and flavorful burnt ends. And they give you a full box for the price. Skip the sides. wowwwww!!! Ambience is none but no matter
                                                  Jack Stack was good but they don't give you much for the price. But their lamb ribs are unusual. I like the one better in Martin City, MO.
                                                  Hmm I will have to try the Smokin Joes wings.
                                                  I heard bates BBQ and Lawnside ( nice blues and pretty good bbq) were good but not as good at LCs.
                                                  Oklahoma Joe's is excellent and their sauce is just as good LCs. Gates BBQ sauce is not very good- too runny.
                                                  have not been to Haywoods but it was good (how is it now?).
                                                  The BBQ shack in Paola was on Food Network's Drive In , Dive in and Drive . How is that ? anyone been there?

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                                                    powillie Feb 13, 2009 08:46 PM

                                                    Some more places to consider. There's a place way out on Holmes,been there for years I believe the name is Snead's. Again I have never been, but many people I have met swear by it. Summit Hickory Pit in Lee's Summit, very passable Barbeque. Hillsdale Bank Barbeque in Hillsdale, KS. Is it still there? At one time, people would drive for miles to eat there.

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                                                      BChow Feb 14, 2009 04:22 PM

                                                      Thanks for mentioning Snead's! We hadn't been there in years but went this afternoon. I think there may be another BBQ category, something like "Rural KC Q" as contrasted to "Urban KC Q"? Maybe a lighter smoke technique? I love LC's and would always recommend it for the best KC experience. But some of the rural places are good. (Like the airport place south of Paola) As to Snead's: Nothing impressive about the sides although the beans were interesting. But the meat was very good, ribs, turkey and beef. It's worth the trip out Holmes.

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                                                        amy_rc Mar 16, 2009 06:30 AM

                                                        Hillsdale Bank BBQ is still there. While you're in that neck of the woods you should try the BBQ Shack in Paola, KS, which was featured on the Food Network. Aside from having an unappetizing sounding menu item called Atomic Buffalo Turds, the food was really good.
                                                        I also love K&M BBQ in Spring Hill, KS (also on the way).

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                                                          KansasTravel Mar 16, 2009 08:26 AM

                                                          Its a shame that the Shack didn't stay in the wonderful dive it occupied wth it was on TV.

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                                                            amy_rc Mar 16, 2009 06:30 PM

                                                            I have never seen the show, I've only heard the legend of the old location. Yeah, the strip mall it moved to is, well, a strip mall. They jazzed up the interior to make it "shack-y" as best they could. The food was great none-the-less and well worth the drive.

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                                                            chileheadmike Mar 16, 2009 09:49 AM

                                                            ABT's rule. When we do a contest, we make about 150. Takes most of a night for prep. They're usually gone by the end of the first night.

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                                                              amy_rc Mar 16, 2009 06:34 PM

                                                              Oh, they were well-received by all of my table-mates. A little spicy for me, but I was able to take one down. Definitely good, just the thought of eating something known as a turd didn't sit well with me.
                                                              My dad was greatly impressed and, in addition to making several trips to Paola for ABTs, has set about replicating the turd recipe.

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                                                              powillie Mar 16, 2009 09:06 PM

                                                              We have eaten at the place in Spring Hill a couple of times, very worthwhile.

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                                                            KansasTravel Feb 14, 2009 07:52 AM

                                                            The food is alright at the BBQ Shack, but they moved from the hole in the wall into a strip center and the place no longer has any personality. http://www.kansastravel.org/bbqshack.htm

                                                            Check the photos at the bottom of the page which show the old buiolding.

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                                                              pollymerase Feb 14, 2009 09:11 PM

                                                              Yeah, I also only found the food alright, not exceptional. We got the sampler platter to be able to try all the meats. I don't think anything was bad, but nothing really stood out either. I think you can get much better in KC without the drive.

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                                                            zataar Feb 14, 2009 08:26 PM

                                                            I believe quite positively that Smokin Joe's Bar BQ on the boulevard has been closed since before Christmas and the building is for sale.

                                                      2. JanPrimus Feb 15, 2009 08:31 AM

                                                        Total vote count so far for places in the KC area...totally did this quick so sorry if I missed one..

                                                        7 - Jack Stack's
                                                        6 - Oklahoma Joe's
                                                        5 - LC's Burnt Ends
                                                        4 - Arthur Bryants
                                                        3 - Gates
                                                        2 - RJ'S Bob-be-que
                                                        2 - Smokestack on Wornall
                                                        1 - Smokestack north of KC
                                                        1 - Big T's
                                                        1 - Smoking Guns
                                                        1 - Haywards
                                                        1 - KC Masterpiece
                                                        1 - Zarda
                                                        1 - Earl Quick's
                                                        1 - Wyandotte
                                                        1 - Good Que
                                                        1 - Rosedale Barbeque
                                                        1 - BB's Lawnside BBQ
                                                        1 - Brobecks Barbeque

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                                                          KansasTravel Feb 16, 2009 10:05 AM

                                                          If we are totaling votes, I will throw ones in for Quick's and for LC's ribs.

                                                          Don't know when I last had burnt ends anywhere.

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                                                            magic Feb 16, 2009 12:55 PM

                                                            So I was the one that revived this older thread, but I haven't yet gotten an answer to the question: Is Niecie's still around?? Did it change locations?

                                                            Thanks all....

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                                                              BChow Feb 16, 2009 03:48 PM

                                                              Niecie's is still at 59th & Prospect and out past 435 on 63rd. They say they'll be in the new location south of Meyer on Troost in the next few weeks. After that the Prospect location will close.

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                                                                magic Feb 16, 2009 04:09 PM

                                                                Thanks for the info! Appreciated....

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                                                                  powillie Feb 16, 2009 07:21 PM

                                                                  Hey Magic. Sorry if I hijacked your question. I just believe that there are many joints worthy of mention,, Many of these places have been in operation for decades, so they must be doing something right.
                                                                  If you are visiting our city, I would like to mention the classic Kansas City Barbeque question, "Bryant's or Gates?". Both have been in operation for decades and are descended from earlier operations. I would recommend either or both for an authenic Kansas City barbeque experience. The Arthur Bryant's location at 18th and Brooklyn was saved by a group of Kansas City barbeque enthusiasts after the old man passed. The location is nearly identical, but the menu has changed slightly. Arthur Bryant had ribs, beef, ham and mutton. Fries, but I don't remember beans. Most everything else is new. What can I say about Ollie Gates? He serves very good barbeque, his restaurants have outstanding customer service, and he gives back to the community. Is there a better reason to support his business? Third choice? Could be one of any number of places. A lot would depend on where you are staying, where you are going, and who you have to guide you.

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                                                                    KansasTravel Feb 17, 2009 05:31 AM

                                                                    For all the "Hi may I help you?" I have always found the service slow at Gates and the Que rather generic. It is fine, but nothing that stands out like some of the other places mentioned.

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                                                                      magic Feb 17, 2009 08:04 AM

                                                                      Oh no worries, nothing was hijacked. I’ve gotten some good info. Thanks so much for your help. I’m hoping to visit at some point during the summer. Obviously the national rep that Arthur Bryant’s has put it near the top of my list of places for a must visit. Niecie’s also looked interesting (its cake looks yummy) which is why I asked my original question about it. I guess it’s moving locations??

                                                                      All the others listed are fantastic suggestions. I will absolutely be getting to some of these when I visit. Thanks again!

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                                                                        sbritchky Mar 17, 2009 02:30 AM

                                                                        "... after the old man passed."

                                                                        A few days after Christmas 1982, my ex-wife and I were driving to KC from STL to eat at Arthur Bryant's for the first time. Suddenly, the radio announced that Mr. Bryant had passed away, and KC went into a blue funk, as it had when another great son of the city -- Harry Truman -- died almost exactly ten years before.

                                                                        In all the years since, I've stopped at AB's on every pass through KC. I've put up with surly service at the original location, the unappealing atmosphere at the casino, and the occasional dried-out sandwich, but everything taken together, my 27 years of experience with this place always brings me back.

                                                                        By the way, the last time I was at Jack Stack's it stunk -- boring and boring-er.

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                                                                kb8240 May 7, 2009 11:49 AM

                                                                I like Gates for the mac salad, pickles and fries. Steer clear of the burnt ends (really fatty) but the brisket is really good.

                                                                Oklahoma Joe's is the best all around BBQ in town, I think.

                                                                Jack Stack is good for entertaining groups or clients who don't neccessarily want down and dirty atmosphere.

                                                                Zarda has good sausage, pot salad and fries.

                                                                KC Masterpiece is AWFUL. Sauce too, an embarassment for the city reputation if you ask me.

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                                                                  chileheadmike May 7, 2009 12:49 PM

                                                                  I read somewhere that KC Masterpiece has new owners. And they are planning on using the smokers for barbecue again. Not sure what they were using before.

                                                                  I like Gates burnt ends, just fatty enough. Preferences I guess. Gates does have the best fries in town.

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                                                                geonurse Mar 15, 2009 11:16 AM

                                                                RJ's Bob BQ on Lamar shouldn't qualify as BBQ in my experience with the place. When I ate there, I ordered a pork sandwich and what I got was oven baked, dry, tough without a hint of smoky taste, artificial or otherwise. At that point, I would have welcomed Liquid Smoke! ish....it was dreck.

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                                                                  inbiz Mar 15, 2009 03:14 PM

                                                                  1) Oklahoma Joe's 2) Gates 3)Smokestack

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                                                                    jdl98 May 7, 2009 11:10 AM

                                                                    unearthing this thread again!

                                                                    Picked up brisket, beans and slaw from Smokestack at 85th and Wornall last night (thereabouts?) - all of it was delicious. brisket was perfect. DO NOT let them heat it for you if you're carrying out. beans are killer and their slaw is spot on. Smokestack is tops on my list for best all around - they do my faves very well.

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                                                                      lsernoff May 17, 2009 04:03 PM

                                                                      Made a pilgrimage to Bryant's on a visit to KC in May 2009 and had the "beef ends" sandwich. Very impressed with the BBQ and the side order of potato salad. Have visited a number of the NC pork BBQ shrines over the years, and, God help me, wondered what the big fuss was all about. Found the Bryant's beef cue much more interesting (no offense meant to NC afficionados). Very reasonable prices for what they serve.

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                                                                        podunkboy May 19, 2009 09:06 PM

                                                                        I just ate at the Ameristar Arthur Bryant's location this past weekend (my brother & brother-in-law wanted to play blackjack, I just wanted burnt ends).
                                                                        They were marvelous, tender and rich, a whole plate full, and the fries were hot and great. Yes, it doesn't have the charm/atmosphere, but the 'cue was good.

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                                                                    Awac2 Jul 7, 2009 07:22 AM

                                                                    Rosedale's
                                                                    600 Southwest Blvd
                                                                    Kansas City, KS 66103-1921
                                                                    (913) 262-0343‎

                                                                    Beef Sandwich, Fires in a wax paper bag and a cold RC Cola..........

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                                                                      ldodb Jul 18, 2009 01:52 AM

                                                                      I can't really put this in order I had to keep all 3 in my rotation.

                                                                      And by meat I am only referring to beef brisket as thats pretty much what I get.

                                                                      A. oklahoma joe's - great meat/sauce and they get bonus points for the best fries and onion rings
                                                                      B. jack stack - just all around good
                                                                      C. gates - good meat, bonus points for the sauce and the" Hi may I help you?!"

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                                                                        TonyZ Jul 21, 2009 07:46 PM

                                                                        I will fortunate enough to be in KC for the weekend of the Royal American BBQ competition in October. Does anyone know whether there are food concessions for the public or will it be private gatherings only? Please advise.

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                                                                          KansasTravel Jul 22, 2009 06:18 AM

                                                                          There will be concessions, but if you are at all outgoing, people will invite you into their camps and offer BBQ,

                                                                          Better yet, sign up as a judge in the open contest https://forms.americanroyal.com/default.aspx?formID=256

                                                                          For $15, you get admission all weekend, free parking on Sat & Sun, a judges pin, apron, eat a lot of que, and if you take a couple of bags with you, you can bring home the que that you don't eat. You can even be a dessert & side dish judge on Saturday.

                                                                          These are my comments from judging two years ago. http://www.mightymac.org/07americanro...

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                                                                            chileheadmike Jul 22, 2009 07:05 AM

                                                                            If you're going to judge a contest, especially a big one like the Royal or GAB, take the KCBS course first. I have my own competition team and we work hard to get things just right. Its unfair to the teams to have their product judged by people unfamiliar with this kind of barbecue. Someone who likes their ribs "falling off the bone" won't find that and will score perfectly cooked ribs down because of this.

                                                                            I'm a certifed judge, and its a lot of fun to judge a contest. There is plenty of good barbecue plus some that's aweful. Just take the class.

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                                                                              Jaymes Jul 22, 2009 05:07 PM

                                                                              I'll second that. I, too, have taken the class. KCBS offers a lot of times and locations, so you should be able to find one that is convenient for you. Like CHM says, anyone that judges owes the cookers the consideration of gaining some knowledge of the rules and standards to which the competitors are aspiring. And the classes are a lot of fun, so all in all, it's a great idea to sign up.

                                                                              Be sure to take a small cooler to your contest to take home any leftovers.

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                                                                                Bobfrmia Jul 22, 2009 09:24 PM

                                                                                I find it strange that they would allow just anyone to be a judge. It that really how it can work? Do you get priority if you've taken the class?
                                                                                I got to find a job down there. I'll work at Walmart and live on Q competitions.

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                                                                                  chileheadmike Jul 23, 2009 06:14 AM

                                                                                  Here is the KCBS website.

                                                                                  They try to get certified judges but its not always possible to have everyone certified. If the barbecue is sponsored by an organization/charity they will have people associated with the organization fill in. They do sometimes take the average person off of the street. I think they try to give them a brief rundown of how things work.

                                                                                  If you want to judge the Royal, you have to pay. One reason why I don't. I think they have a quick class for non-certified judges.

                                                                                  ETA the link http://www.kcbs.us/classes.php?type=j

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