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About half the folks who post on this board do not provide an email address. This means they did not receive an urgent email from the Big Dog or one of the Team requesting them to help with the site's finances by giving, buying, purchasing, etc. Check the link.

Link: http://chowhound.safeshopper.com/

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  1. It's not a matter of putting an email address in your posting. What counts is signing up for the mailing list.

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    1. re: ironmom

      And to sign up for the mailing list just go to this link:

      Link: http://www.chowhound.com/misc/mailing...

      1. re: Pat Hammond

        Seems like there were several of us (me for one) who did sign up for the email list, but didn't get the mailing. I signed up at least 2 months back and haven't seen anything. :(

        1. re: Meg

          What strikes me, Meg, is how we--is this an American trait?--expect service even when we're not paying for it. This has been, so far, a free site. A handful of people have worked very hard on it as a labor of love so that the rest of can have good food (and a good time). Do we have a right to complain under those circumstances? How would you feel?

          1. re: roger simon
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            michael (mea culpa)

            The point in terms of communication is to sign up for the mailing list. The point in terms of keeping the site up is to give, subscribe, purchase, and keep posting. See list link below.

            Link: http://www.chowhound.com/misc/mailing...

            1. re: roger simon

              No one is complaining about "lack of service" in terms of signing up for the mailing list. It is fully understood that this site is more a "labor of love" than anyting remotely commercial. ChowHound solicts visitors to sign-up for the mailing list. I did so thinking that ChowHound *wanted* to know who I am and where they can reach me so they can target me, for such things as solicitations to support this site, or to alert me to this site's plight, or to alert me to the fact that ChowMarket opened up.

              In other words, all I am trying to say is, everyone's (who are associated with supporting this stie) good intentions notwithstanding, the management of the mailing list is apparently not working.

              1. re: Chino Wayne

                It's been my understanding that Jim is *very* selective on mailing list communications. This won't be, and wasn't planned to be, a weekly or maybe even monthly communication. Only when really chowish, significant news is breaking. And I think that's considerate, saving only the real gold for chowmails.. So when I see a chow-mail, I immediately open it, knowing it contains the real goods!

                1. re: Chino Wayne

                  Putting to rest the mailing list issue. Our mailing list is composed only of those who've actually signed up for it (info below). We don't spam people who've posted to these boards 'cuz we're not obnoxious like that.

                  We sent out a mass-mailing to that mailing list about the ChowMarket opening. A bunch of people didn't receive it. I've been too crushingly busy to take time to figure out what went wrong, and decide whether I want to risk bugging those who DID receive it with yet another email.

                  If you want to get on the mailing list for infrequent notices regarding the site, see info here:
                  http://www.chowhound.com/misc/mailing....

                  If you're interested in regular weekly mailings full of intense chow info (the cream of the tips here on the message board), use link below to go to the ChowMarket and order ChowNews. And other stuff. We badly need your support.

                  ciao

                  Link: http://chowhound.safeshopper.com/

                  1. re: Jim Leff

                    Big Dog-

                    Everything having been said, I have signed up for ChowNews, so if the "mailing list" is a sometimes thing, that's fine. I can imagine how time consuming this whole enterprise must be for you, and I'd much rather read about your Chowish exploits on these pages than see you or anyone else associated with Chowhound running around from board to board having to explain the wherefores and whys of relatively mundane issues, when the real business at hand is the continuing quest for the ultimaate (you fill in the blank) dining experience.

                    1. re: Jim Leff

                      Big Dog:

                      Site survival is key . We are all trying to get the word out and it seems like alot of people didn't get the mailing. Sure people wouldn't mind getting it twice if it helps save the site. How about the wait staff can't they help ...

                      1. re: Jim Leff
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                        michael (mea culpa)

                        WE WOULDN'T MIND GETTING THE MESSAGE TWICE! And would it really be so bad to spam all the posters this one time with an appeal? Think what's at stake.

                        1. re: michael (mea culpa)

                          You're right, we owe the mailing list another shot. We're working on another mailing right now.

                          As for spamming all posters, huge one-time panic moves might keep us afloat for an extra month or two, but that's not a formula for sustained viability. We're working full blast on other ideas. It's hard in this economy...and particularly in this sector.

                          I unfortunately don't have time to participate in (or even closely read) a sprawling public discussion of our options (many of which we've considered...we've been at this for a while now), but if anyone has ideas or special abilities/experience/knowledge, feel free to email me (address above) to discuss privately.

                          Hey, do any of you film moguls out there want to publicize films through this site? People who love great food also love great movies (in fact, we love just about ANYTHING great). And chowhounds are nothing if not an inherently evangelistic, go-to crowd.

                          ciao

                    2. re: roger simon

                      Hey man--ease off a little. You totally misinterpreted my post. And I don't think you're in a position to judge me as you have...do I know you?

              2. How do you equate my not putting my email address on this posting to my not having provided financial support for Chowhound? That seems a bit presumptuous. Not that I would accuse any Chowhounders of being spammers, or worse, but I prefer at this time by simply identifying myself with a "handle" rather publishing my email address here.

                Since there is no registration process for the Chowhound web site (in terms of being a prerequsite
                for accessing the message boards), there does not seem to me to be any mechanism which would prevent someone who is posting a message to simply post a bogus email address, or worse, "forge" someone else's email adress.

                By the way, I have previoulsy regisered my email address with Chowhound for their mailing list, but have never received an emailing from Chowhound, except the recent confirmation that my Good Will was received.
                My recollection is that I registered my email address more than a month ago, anyone know if there would have been any mass mailings from Chowhound since then. I sure never learned about Chowhound's financial plight until I started reading the postings here about a week ago.

                -A Confirmed Chowhound, If Not A Chowaholic

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                1. re: Chino Wayne

                  Hi Wayne, That you choose not to display your email address is entirely your prerogative. Some of us do and some of us don't. I do know that some chowhounds choose to use services like Hotmail as their email address rather than a work or more personal address. But that, too, is a personal choice. I'm checking to see if there's been a mass mailing you might have missed recently. And thanks very much for your contribution of Good Will. Pat

                  1. re: Pat Hammond

                    Thanks for your comments, and your efforts here. It is really interesting how the world has changed. I can remember when my telephone number had words and numbers in it, now I have multiple telephone numbers for my phones, fax, modems, etc. So I guess maybe it is time to add a third email address, a "public" one to augment my personal one and my professional one.

                  2. re: Chino Wayne
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                    michael (mea culpa)

                    It wasn't presumption. More like despair. And confusion over the mailing list and the email address situation which in effect you explain. I guess what concerns me know is how relatively few people actually do respond. Any ideas on how to fix this?
                    Sort of reminds me of the old Python bit about the Spanish Inquisition (more than the spam one). Our chief weapons are.... What are they?

                    1. re: michael (mea culpa)

                      Sure -- there is a way to fix this. Make the Chowhound site one that requires registration.

                      1. re: michael (mea culpa)

                        I have been a lurker and a sometimes poster on these message boards and a reader and appreciator of the content of this web site, and the links from this web site to other web sites for a couple of months now,
                        ever since I learned about it in an item in "The New Yorker". It would be disheartening to me if this web site vanished in to the ether. It seems like there are quite a few people who post here, and probably many more who lurk. If all of those people have any of the interest or appreciation for this site that I do, it would really be in their own interest to help to sustain this site. Through their participation, and any voluntary financial contribution they are comfortable with.

                        I am really very impressed with the tenor of the discussion here. Everyone seems to be adult, respectful of one another, enthusiastic and collaborative (in the sense of sharing exerience, knowlege or restaurant "finds"). I don't do "chat rooms", and this site is a far cry from the flaming and nastiness in the Compu$erve forums I used to visit a few years ago.

                        The postings can also be very entertaining and a great outlet for the the creative expression of the participants.

                        So these are reasons that I am here, and I hope others reading this and benefiting from what they come across here will step up and help sustain this enterprise.

                        Regards from the dining no-man's land that is the "Inland Empire" (Chino, Pomona, Montclair, Claremont, Ontario, Fontana, Rialto, etc. California)