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Essential ingredients in a great "Dry Rub" for pork rib?

fruglescot Feb 13, 2008 05:07 AM

NEW TO THE DRY RUB METHOD
Currentlly I prerub the rack with a fresh lime wash and then apply my combination of Hungarian sweet paprika, brown sugar, dry Keens mustard ,black pepper.grated garlic and fresh ginger.
Can you recommend any other items I might include in the rub mix?

I just create the rub without standard measurements or ratios. A little of this a little of that
Would this present any apparent problems.
Thanks in advance.

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    Val Feb 13, 2008 05:41 AM

    I think ground cumin would fit in very nicely.

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      swsidejim Feb 13, 2008 05:54 AM

      yep cumin,

      also cayenne pepper, chili powder, onion powder, kosher salt,

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        jayt90 Feb 13, 2008 06:17 AM

        Finely chopped rosemary will accent the lime rub.

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          swsidejim Feb 13, 2008 06:19 AM

          Interesting the lime rub technique.

          I rinse/rub my ribs with white vinegar when removing from the packaging, and then apply a little yelow mustard before adding the rub.

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      Mila Feb 13, 2008 06:23 AM

      I'd add a little heat: chiles !
      Depending what part of the world you are from and if outdoor bbqing is not an option, adding smoked paprika gives a lovely "almost outdoors" flavour.

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        alkapal Feb 13, 2008 06:43 AM

        i was thinking paprika, too. might it not char, though? somehow it seems it has a thicker density than the other, actual spice, ingredients....

        has anyone else found that tendency to burn relatively quickly if not in liquid or oil?

        other ingredients: a touch of rubbed/ground sage and ground thyme. brilliant with pork (esp. rubbed then with olive oil.)

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        Felixnot Feb 13, 2008 08:27 AM

        Salt! Most rubs have salt as the basis of all dry rub ingredients. Kosher salt.

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          bwwerley Aug 17, 2009 06:51 AM

          I only salt meats AFTER they are fully cooked...salt tends to dry out the meat. The exception to this is with poultry...to which the salt is applied only to the skin...never the meat, or if you are salting the fat...like the fat side of a brisket...unnecessary however since the fat is usually discarded before eating. Most people have a personal preference for amounts of salt to put on their food and NOT salting prior to serving allows for individual tastes.

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            hankstramm Aug 18, 2009 05:32 PM

            This has been proven a myth that salting dries out the meat. See numerous threads on this. Scientifically and anecdotely debunked.

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          ricepad Feb 13, 2008 09:49 AM

          When it comes to pork, I'm a minimalist for rubs. Kosher salt and freshly cracked black pepper. That's it. Then let the smoke meld with the flavor of the PORK (assuming you're going to cook 'em low and slow with a real wood fire).

          1. Moose Feb 13, 2008 10:18 AM

            I use the following: Paprika, brown sugar, chile powder, onion powder, garlic powder, sea salt, black pepper, cumin, and cayenne.

            As I smoke my ribs at about 225 degrees for about 4 hours, the rub produces a wonderful"bark" that seals in the juices.

            One last thing: Before I put the rub on the ribs, I use a light mustard slather over both sides of the rack.

            1. Scargod Aug 16, 2009 01:50 PM

              Just finished a third or fourth cooking of pork ribs using my rub and "low and slow" method.

              Dry rub. I make double this amount and it makes a quart, which I keep in the freezer.
              2 Tablespoons Salt
              1/2 Teaspoon ground cloves
              1 cup Brown Sugar
              2 Tbs Ground Cumin
              2 Tbs Chili Powder
              2 Tbs Black Pepper
              2 Tablespoons Smoked Paprika
              2 Tbs Granulated Garlic
              1 tablespoon ground white pepper
              1 tablespoon fresh ground black pepper

              To this you can add more ingredients. Since I have a lot of fresh sage and love the flavor I basted the ribs with fresh sage blended in water. You could add ground, dried sage.
              I have a large casserole dish which I fill with water and place a wire rack over this with the ribs on it. Using my Weber with just the center runner on medium, I cook it for about four hours at 250-275F.
              Finish it off however you want, but to my taste it needed little if any Stubbs or D. L. Jardine's sauce.

               
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                c oliver Aug 16, 2009 06:43 PM

                This sounds like a great combo, Scar. I'm curious though why you store it in the freezer. Aren't these all dry ingredients that you normally store in the pantry? But a REALLY great combo!

                1. re: c oliver
                  Scargod Aug 16, 2009 07:14 PM

                  All the hot ingredients combined with the brown sugar might self combust! That and it won't grow bugs in the freezer.
                  (I mix up a big batch so I think it stays fresher longer in the freezer.)

                  1. re: Scargod
                    alkapal Aug 17, 2009 06:44 AM

                    looks good, scargod. remind me, what's the difference between granulated and powdered garlic? does it matter here?

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                      Scargod Aug 17, 2009 12:49 PM

                      First, I was noting, above that someone suggests leaving the salt out. I don't think there are many rubs that do it and I don't consider mine very salty. I am doing a test of the effects on me of a <2000mg/day sodium diet and they seem fine to me. They are very juicy too, (though firm), when cooked above a pan of water.

                      I buy my toasted granulated garlic from The Spice House, online. I think it is a bigger particle, that's all. Powder might be too fine to toast? I don't think it would matter. And if you feel the need to baste then that could be another thing you could do by throwing cloves in the food processor with some liquid of choice. A strong sauce might mask the garlic flavor. I know I'm risking breaking my arm here, but mine were damn fine with nothing on them but the rub and a little grill smoke flavor.

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                        alkapal Aug 17, 2009 02:47 PM

                        thanks.

                        as to salt - and especially re pork -- it helps as a molecular entrée into the meat. i posted about this in detail about three months ago. i think it was on the "salting meat" thread, but i can't find it. your rub's salt level is very low.

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                        hankstramm Aug 18, 2009 05:33 PM

                        Granulated garlic is essentially dried garlic that has been made into granules. If you add water to it, it rehydrates to a garlic paste. Garlic powder is a very fine powder with very little texture.

                2. Infomaniac Aug 16, 2009 08:09 PM

                  The past few years I've been using palm sugar instead of brown sugar in my rub mix for pork. For me I like it slightly better than when I use brown sugar.

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                    hankstramm Aug 16, 2009 09:03 PM

                    The only thing I didn't see that I use a little of is some celery seed. Brown sug, salt, paprika, celery seed, dry mustard, granulated garlic, onion powder, cayenne and black pepper. I might be forgetting something, but that'll make you one find Mr. Brown......

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                      c oliver Aug 16, 2009 09:21 PM

                      I like celery seed. I also love fennel seed with pork so I guess I'd include that also.

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                      silverhawk Aug 17, 2009 06:28 AM

                      there are as many variations in rub as there are rubbers. some themes or tricks emerge, though. most rubs are heavy on paprika and include chile, cayenne, salt, pepper, sugar. i prefer to use turbinado or raw sugar since these melt a bit more slowly and turn dark later in the long cooking process. i keep my rub in a shaker on the counter and use it for much more than pork ribs.

                      Dry Rub

                      General Proportions:

                      Paprika 3
                      Black Pepper 1
                      Salt 1
                      Turbinado or Raw Sugar 1
                      Chile Powder ½
                      Garlic Powder ½
                      Onion Powder ½
                      Cayenne 1/6

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