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Best Scallion Pancake?

KingCarnivore Feb 11, 2008 04:30 PM

Saw a mention in one of the other posts that got me thinking - what are hound opinions on the best source for Scallion Pancakes in town? I saw one vote for King Fung in a prior post. What's your favorite and why? Who has the best sauce (I prefer gingery sauces, not too salty or tasing overly of soy sauce)?

My favorite of late has been Little Q hotpot in Quincy - their pancakes are light, crispy and not greasy at all. However, they serve them with a thick hoisin sauce not a dipping sauce. I'm a pancake dipper, not a sauce spreader ...

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  1. BarmyFotheringayPhipps RE: KingCarnivore Feb 11, 2008 06:13 PM

    I'd agree with King Fung. Crispy, many-layered, not greasy, notable scallion presence.

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      galleygirl RE: BarmyFotheringayPhipps Feb 12, 2008 04:58 AM

      This perfectly describes the scallion pancakes at Red Chili in Framingham, as well...The layers seem to be hand-crafted; amazing!

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        maryv RE: BarmyFotheringayPhipps Feb 18, 2008 11:58 AM

        Mmm, yes. Do they have sauce, though? I remember when my college crowd went there, we would mix our own dipping sauce from soy sauce, rice vinegar and chili sauce at the table.

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        whops RE: KingCarnivore Feb 11, 2008 06:24 PM

        I like the ones at Mary Chung's. They are denser (which may not be to everyone's taste), but consequently richer and chewier. And IMO the dipping sauce is outstanding.

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          jgg13 RE: whops Feb 12, 2008 07:01 AM

          I like them there as well, but then again I like the denser/chewier pancakes more than the proper kind.

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          jackal RE: KingCarnivore Feb 11, 2008 06:34 PM

          While I do love KFG's scallion pancakes, my new favorite is Sichuan Garden's. Perfection.

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            fecalface RE: jackal Feb 14, 2008 06:58 AM

            Jackal is wise -- pancakes at Sichuan Garden have a crisp texture on the outside and a bit chewy on the inside. Nice scallion flavor. Good dipping sauce...and the chili sauces from your dishes also go well.

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              Food4Thought RE: jackal Feb 20, 2008 07:27 PM

              This is a nice Scallion Pancake from SG. Pretty thin with a crispy exterior and a toothsome, chewy interior and a nice ginger dipping sauce which compliments it very well. Best served from the kitchen. Microvaves OK but not nearly as well as freshly prepared and served on site

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              mr mangia RE: KingCarnivore Feb 12, 2008 05:30 AM

              I know there has been a lot of talk of Wangs in Somerville lately but I have to give it up to them. Crispy, flaky, & surprisingly not greasy at all. They also have a salt or sweet pie which is similar without the scallions & yummy too.

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                uman RE: KingCarnivore Feb 12, 2008 06:05 AM

                Meyer's and Chang - yeastie goodness

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                  maillard RE: uman Feb 13, 2008 07:30 AM

                  Woah, Myers and Chang uses yeast for their scallion pancakes? I've never seen that before...

                  I like King Fung's, but was surprised at how thick they are. At least twice as thick as other places. I like Mary Chung's and Qingdao's as well.

                  Does anyone know where I could buy uncooked scallion pancakes to make at home? Qingdao had them on their menu, but when I tried to order them they said they didn't have them. Does Wang's sell frozen ones?

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                    mr mangia RE: maillard Feb 13, 2008 08:06 AM

                    I've only bought frozen dumplings at Wangs & not sure if they sell the scallion pancakes in the same way. You might be able to get them at Super 88 but I am a little wary of their prepared food as much of it has lots of msg & I am allergic to that.

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                      psora RE: maillard Feb 13, 2008 08:36 AM

                      Super 88 sells them frozen. Dunno how good they are.

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                        gansu girl RE: maillard Feb 13, 2008 08:50 AM

                        You must've hit Qingdao on a day when they didn't have them, 'cause that's where we get our uncooked ones. The ones we've had from Super 88 have been awful - I don't think we've explored the whole universe of those available there, and I can't remember brands, but the ones from Qingdao are quite good so that's what we stick with.

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                          mr mangia RE: gansu girl Feb 13, 2008 09:41 AM

                          I never made them at home. do you just deep fry them in a wok ?

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                            maillard RE: mr mangia Feb 13, 2008 10:40 AM

                            I actually just pan fry them in peanut oil. They come out very tasty that way.

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                              mr mangia RE: maillard Feb 13, 2008 11:26 AM

                              the problem is i live 30 seconds from wangs so i always get them there ! not a bad problem to have i guess !

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                              gansu girl RE: mr mangia Feb 14, 2008 06:33 AM

                              I use a nice heavy skillet and a nice healthy dollop of peanut oil - make sure your oil is hot before you put your pancake in b/c the dough is quite sticky and you'll end up w/an unevenly cooked mess otherwise. I end up using tongs to turn it a few times to get it nice and toasty - they are good, not as good as when they're made and eaten immediately at Qingdao, but a darn good substitute!

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                                mr mangia RE: gansu girl Feb 14, 2008 06:39 AM

                                If it's a Tuesday when both Wangs & Qingdao are closed and I am feeling motivated I will use your approach !
                                Thanks for tip !

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                              maillard RE: gansu girl Feb 13, 2008 10:39 AM

                              Oh, that's good to hear. I'll try them again sometime (soon!).

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                              Kenji RE: maillard Feb 15, 2008 06:47 AM

                              I'll have to try Qingdao's scallion pancakes very soon. They should go really well with the fish in fiery sauce.

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                                Kenji RE: maillard Aug 13, 2008 02:09 PM

                                I tried Qingdao's scallion pancake recenty. It was very good, the most scalliony-tasting version of the dish I've had in Cambridge.

                                However, I also very much like Mary Chung's dense, chewy take on the scallion pancake. And, of course, her dipping sauce is spicy and delicious.

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                                cookboat55 RE: uman Feb 13, 2008 11:58 AM

                                Which do people prefer - the regular scallion pancakes or the garlic chive pancakes from M&C?

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                                Kenji RE: KingCarnivore Feb 12, 2008 07:25 AM

                                Mary Chung has very good scallion pancakes.

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                                  yumyum RE: Kenji Feb 12, 2008 07:35 AM

                                  I second (or third) Mary Chung's scallion pancakes.

                                2. hiddenboston RE: KingCarnivore Feb 12, 2008 07:44 AM

                                  Quincy Dynasty in North Quincy (hearty, thick, and chewy, with little grease).

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                                    9lives RE: KingCarnivore Feb 13, 2008 09:06 AM

                                    I'll admit I'm not a huge fan of this dish but I had a good version at Windsor's recently; the newish "to order" dim sum place in Chinatown. Ms 9 loves them.

                                    The rest of the meal was good but I thought a notch below Gitlo's. I need to pay another visit but my first reaction is that I prefer the larger cart places like He La Moon and China Pearl or CCC.

                                    Good scallion pancakes at King Fung at Mary Chung's also

                                    1. franksnbeans RE: KingCarnivore Feb 14, 2008 06:03 AM

                                      For a slightly different spin, try Wu Chon House in Union Square. Specifically dig the Wu Chon Pa Jun.

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                                        mr mangia RE: franksnbeans Feb 14, 2008 06:29 AM

                                        Korean pancakes rock. The are more gelatinous but I love them just the same. I often get the kimchee pancakes. I like them at Wu Chon, Seoul Restaurant in Porter, & at the Super 88 Korean resto Ii always forget the name of that place). They are also good at Koreanna.

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                                        sekbowmeyaa RE: KingCarnivore Feb 14, 2008 12:36 PM

                                        I have to say that both the scallion pancake at taiwan cafe, and more recently the scallion pancake at gourmet dumpling house in chinatown are very tasty. I find the ones at gourmet dumpling are fresh cooked as they take like 1/2 hour to come after order. They are soft on the inside with a light crisp on the outside, very delicious.

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                                          lipoff RE: sekbowmeyaa Feb 15, 2008 09:38 AM

                                          On any night, the scallion pancakes at Wang's are excellent, but on a good night they are truly unparalelled. Thin, flaky, crispy, flavorful, sharp, and not greasy. They are a sight to behold --- delicate wedges, glisetening with heat. They are even more enjoyable to eat, as you can feel the texture of the pancake, the tang of the salt, the bite of the vinegar, and the sharpness of the scallions hit your tongue in waves.

                                          Forgive me for being melodramatic about my favourite food.

                                          Other scallion pancakes of note are MuLan's, which are delicate and refined King Fung Garden's, which are heavier, greasier and more filling, but no less flavorful. Fuloon's, which are often softer and have a nice complexity. Green Tea's are not much to look at, but taste surprisingly full. Taiwan Cafe can be a little inconsistent, but when they are "on" they are very good, especially when piping hot. If you are in the market for a late night scallion pancake, try to Hong Kong Restaurant in Harvard Square. Sometimes they are terrible masses of overly fried dough, but sometimes they are delectable. I don't know why.

                                          Unfortunately, Ru Yee in Newton is now gone. They used to serve some of the best scallion pancakes, with the most complex and flavorful dipping sauce. The same people own Rice Valley in Newtonville, but their scallion pancakes are terrible dreck. I have not yet been to Ginger Root, the Chinese restaurant in the same space as Ru Yee.

                                          I think scallion pancakes are interesting because an otherwise unremarkable restaurant, such as Ru Yee was (save for their also outstandin beef teriyaki appetizer), can have an outstanding scallion pancake. Also, it seems to me that while scallion pancakes are de rigeur on Chinese restaurant menus in the Boston area, they are less common outside of Northern style Chinese restaurants elsewhere in the United States. I wonder what explains this somewhat local phenomenon?

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                                            Allstonian RE: lipoff Feb 15, 2008 03:15 PM

                                            That's a good question - I've certainly been a bit surprised to see scallion pancakes become so widely available in the Boston area, and to show up on the menus of places that are primarily Cantonese.

                                            I think I first encountered them on the dim sum menu at Joyce Chen's Small Eating Place, and until maybe 10 years ago they were only likely to appear on the menus of more Northern style restaurants, as you said. Still, I love them, so I'm not sorry to see they're so common now, especially with so many good versions to be had!

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                                            SaraASR RE: sekbowmeyaa Aug 14, 2008 06:38 AM

                                            Gourmet Dumpling House last night for Scallion Pancakes. SOOOOOO good!

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                                            teezeetoo RE: KingCarnivore Feb 15, 2008 09:54 AM

                                            Eastern Pier near anthony's pier I. excellent pancakes with a bit of heat a a good ginger/soy dipping sauce

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                                              globalevent RE: KingCarnivore Feb 15, 2008 02:56 PM

                                              My vote is for Eo Noodle in Framingham (Rt 9 westbound and temple St.) Very light, crisp and served with delicious dipping sauce. I'm not a huge fan of their HK Chinese, but I love the peking beef on the app menu and the noodle soups - duck and almond pork notably - absolutely rock. nice folks too. no alcohol.

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                                                dukegirl RE: globalevent Feb 18, 2008 04:17 AM

                                                A second vote for EO Noodle. Their dumplings are also excellent.

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                                                RiuniteonIce RE: KingCarnivore Feb 16, 2008 07:38 AM

                                                Wangs is great for so many items, yet I've never been impressed with their scallion pancakes. My vote for best pancake around, be it scallion or kimchee or etc, goes to Koreana on Prospect St. in Cambridge. Second place: Suishaya on Tyler St. in Chinatown.

                                                1. gansu girl RE: KingCarnivore Feb 17, 2008 03:32 PM

                                                  KingCarnivore and I were at Vinh Sun BBQ today w/family and friends and we decided that Vinh Sun has some of the WORST scallion pancakes around . . . good meat, bad pancakes . . . .

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                                                    chowfamily RE: KingCarnivore Feb 18, 2008 01:04 PM

                                                    My family love the Scallion Pancakes at Little Q, and I have been puzzling about the thick, jam-like sauce as well. One thought is that the broths are savory and that more sodium early-on might distract from the herbs and other ingredients to follow.

                                                    Fortunately for me, the rest of the family devour the scallion pancakes before I have a chance to think in any detail about improving the sauce.

                                                    Little Q might welcome your inquiry, as I have noticed that some tables receive condiments that others don't. Depending on your tastes, they might be able to offer an alternative.

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                                                      Zatan RE: KingCarnivore Feb 18, 2008 02:20 PM

                                                      King Fung, good, hefty greasy in the best sense of that word, notable presence of scallion, fantastic.

                                                      Wangs, more delicate, crisper and less greasy, truly wonderful.

                                                      I think it would depend on my mood. I also like the Korean ones at Koreana, and my only (sadly) visit to Sichuan Gourmet also presented me with an excellent version, if nothing else a good buffer for the fantastic Sichuan spicy food they had.

                                                      And yes, it is strange that these are available in virtually every Chinese restaurant, I had not thought of that before as I simply never considered ordering them when having, say, Cantonese food. I don't know if they even belong on a Sichuan menu......

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                                                        limster RE: Zatan Feb 18, 2008 02:40 PM

                                                        They're mainly from the NE of China, Lu (Shangdong) cuisine.

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                                                        Scotpaulabear RE: KingCarnivore Aug 13, 2008 07:41 AM

                                                        Reviving an older thread (which is making me drool!), did anyone else besides me love the scallion pancakes at Larry's Chinese (RIP) in Central Square? I adore Mary's and KFG's, but these were a totally different animal - super crispy as if they'd been deep fried, almost with a battered coating taste to them. Oh my god. Heaven. Does anyone else deep fry scallion pancakes, cos I'm assuming that's what they must have done?

                                                        Been living in a scallion pancake-free zone (Scotland) for too long, but hallelujah! Scottish husband was missing them so much after many trips to Boston, he has just figured out how to make his own which are turning out great. Between that and my mock KFG chow mein, I may just survive til I'm back visting the 'rents in April. ;)

                                                        1. cassoulady RE: KingCarnivore Aug 13, 2008 09:24 AM

                                                          I had King Funs Scallion pie for the first time recently and really loved it. All the apps I had there were great!

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