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Diana Feb 11, 2008 11:26 AM

My family and I are in town for Beerapalooza, and I need a few spots for meals.

My father is less adventurous than I. I'll eat anything aside from nuts (allergies). Still, after the food at the Anchor Brewery's "Homebrew Club of the year" party, I'll be wanting light. Salads, that kinda thing.

Dad refuses Sushi, but a palce that does cooked dishes would be ok.

Beyond that, we really couild go almost anywhere withing a reasonable budget. Chinese, Persian, French, Itlalian, American, Health food, mexican, singapore, Indian, Deli, and so on.

Thanks!

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    stomsf Jun 10, 2009 08:30 AM

    Is there any word on the new place that opened in the place of Baraka?

    1. Robert Lauriston Feb 14, 2008 10:40 AM

      Has anyone been to San Francisco Bar-B-Que (the Thai place specializing in grilled dishes) recently? It used to be good but I haven't been there in years.

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      San Francisco Bar-B-Que (CLOSED)
      1328 18th St, San Francisco, CA

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        ML8000 Feb 14, 2008 10:47 AM

        Not recently but I was there 3-4 years ago...it's gone way down hill. Frankly I don't know how they stay in business.

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          grishnackh Feb 14, 2008 10:53 AM

          The family who ran San Francisco Bar-B-Que retired last year, closing the restaurant. After extensive remodeling, it has been replaced by a brand-new sushi outfit called Umi. Umi is brought to you by the former owners of the now-shuttered Skipjack Sushi in Cow Hollow.

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        dinnerout Feb 14, 2008 10:39 AM

        Saw a note that you could go anywhere in SF - check out South Park Cafe - cute little place and parking is usually not too difficult!

        1. wolfe Feb 14, 2008 08:11 AM

          Check out this board on Canteen.

          1. susancinsf Feb 13, 2008 06:10 AM

            A search of the board for "Haight" brought up 135 entries in the past year:

            http://www.chow.com/search?search%5Bq...

            I think part of the reason you aren't getting many replies is that the title says it is for a picky eater (which tends to be a red flag for many Chowhounds since most CHs don't think of themselves as 'picky'...particular about wanting good Chow, sure. But picky has a different connotation. ) But then, in the text, you basically leave it open to almost anything within a 'reasonable' budget (which means different things to different people just to further confuse things), except sushi and nuts.

            I suggest looking at the search, narrowing it down and then asking a few specific questions.

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              Diana Feb 13, 2008 08:13 AM

              the picky eatyer is my dad, who throws tantrums in places presenting food he doesn't like.

              I've never had a problem with "picky" before, but that is posting on the LA board.

              I didn't know there was a dirference like that in response cues.

              Good suggestions, thanks.

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                ML8000 Feb 13, 2008 09:04 AM

                Take pops to the Toronado for a beer and get a brat or random tube steak next door at Rosemunde. They have Anchor and a bunch of beers on tap. If he complains about that, leave him there. It is the Haight so expect funk.

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                  Diana Feb 13, 2008 11:08 AM

                  The party at Anchor for our club will have open Anchor taps of everything, so we want to look beyond anchor, like the Rogue taphouse (for the afterparty) and so on.
                  Thanks!

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                    ML8000 Feb 13, 2008 12:16 PM

                    The Toronado has about 50 on tap.

                    1. re: Diana
                      Atomica Feb 13, 2008 05:07 PM

                      If you and your family are serious about beer, Toronado is a perfect place to go.

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                        psb Feb 13, 2008 06:39 PM

                        city beer [store with a small drinking area, large beer selection]
                        is reasonably close to anchor. it is on folsom between 7th and 8th.

                        the proprietor is generally [always?] there and is quite knowledgeable
                        about beer.
                        http://www.citybeerstore.com/

                        of course toronado is a good/default suggestion as well.

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                Diana Feb 13, 2008 05:16 AM

                bump Please help with more! I could use places near haight!

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                  ML8000 Feb 11, 2008 12:00 PM

                  At 18th and Connecticut (close to Anchor) there's several places:

                  Goat Hill Pizza (anchor on tap)
                  Alperto (Italian)
                  Chez Maman (small)
                  Chez Papa (French)
                  Eliza's (Chinese)

                  Frankly for any of these you don't really need a reservation. I'd just drive over, look and pick.

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                    Diana Feb 12, 2008 05:11 AM

                    Anything good near Haight Ashbury area? I am also looking for a healthy market with a salad bar and deli or something

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                      cjp Feb 13, 2008 09:52 AM

                      Delessio on Broderick and Oak would probably fit the bill for salad bar/budget/picky eater. They have a hot bar with roasted chicken and other meats, mac and cheese, sandwiches, etc. plus a salad bar. Not really a restaurant setting but a few tables. When I think picky eater I feel like that means people that will love mac and cheese, but it could also be picky eater where the only mac and cheese you will eat is Kraft, in which case it may not be the right place.

                      Since you are coming up for beer Magnolia Brewery on Haight St and Masonic would also be good. They have good food and also pizza and burger for picky eaters.

                      The Upper Haight is a bit of a wasteland food-wise, in my opinion. I live on Haight St and don't go towards Ashbury unless I absolutely have to.

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                      Magnolia Pub & Brewery
                      1398 Haight St, San Francisco, CA 94117

                      DeLessio Market & Bakery
                      302 Broderick St, San Francisco, CA 94117

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                        Diana Feb 13, 2008 11:07 AM

                        Trust me, Magnolia is one of the many places on the Maltose Falcon's (our club's) hit list!

                      2. re: Diana
                        Candice Feb 13, 2008 04:43 PM

                        You can always hit the new Whole Foods in Potrero for the healthy market.
                        450 Rhode Island Street

                      3. re: ML8000
                        bbulkow Feb 13, 2008 11:59 PM

                        Let me give you a little flavor on these ---
                        As ML8000 mentions, you just pop over there and look around. 6 restaurants within sight of each other.

                        Goat Hill Pizza is a neighborhood favorite, but fairly average-to-a-little-worse in terms of the actual pizza. Beyond anchor steam, they have very little beer selection. You'll do better elsewhere.

                        "Alperto" in the previous list is actually Aperto, and is a decent middle-brow italian. Wine by the glass, lamb shank, that kind of thing. Quiet atmosphere. Nothing wrong with choosing this place.

                        Eliza's is waaaay above average chinese, but it's not much into authentic, thus may be a good compromise. The tastes are crisp and clean, the sauce and spice are not heavy. Eliza's was my sunday evening comfort food - but it's more like everyday chinese, not destination-grade.

                        Chez maman and Chez Papa are slightly after I left that neighborhood, so I shouldn't comment. I've always found them OK but nothing I yearn for. Bakar is on the other corner, owned by the same people, and I think the tastiest of the bunch. Kind of a neuvo Moroccan thing.

                        Unmentioned by ML8000 is Thanya and Salee, a massively underrated Thai restaurant. However, I'd call them authentic (I jones for their Nur Kem, dried beef bar snack). What is picky? They're a mixed drink place - you can eat in the bar area or the restaurant area. In my mind its the best of all.

                        But ... if you're walking out of the Anchor Brewery, and you think you have to drive anyway (hoofing it to 16th and Connecticut is it's a longer walk than on paper, due to the hills) you might consider something like The Slow Club or Universal Cafe, both on the very-good-american side and not that far away. Both are more expensive than anything thus mentioned in actual Potrero Hill and reservations-required.

                        Toranado really is a beer drinker's heaven, it should be on your pilgrimage list. I don't know LA well, but I'd be surprised if the ultra-hoppy pacific northwest styles are quite as fresh down there. Anchor doesn't do anything like Anderson Valley or Lagunitas or Prohibition, but you can get 'em at the Toranado. If you're wise you'll order half-pints.

                        Finally - I also have no idea what you mean by picky eater. "Tantrum in places presenting food he doesn't like" but could do singapore or persian? Usually "picky" means non-adventerous-american-only, to me, but you don't mean that. Imagine my confusion.

                        1. re: bbulkow
                          Atomica Feb 14, 2008 05:56 AM

                          "Bakar" is actually BARAKA (there is a restaurant called Bacar on Brannan between 3rd & 4th).

                          Baraka has new owners, and tablehopper reports that the menu and restaurant have gotten a much-needed spiffing up.

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                            grishnackh Feb 14, 2008 06:29 AM

                            Thanya and Salee was so 'massively underrated' that they closed their doors in 2005. They were replaced by the stylish Lingba lounge which is a great place for a tropical cocktail and bar bites. Unfortunately it is not a notable place for an authentic Thai meal.

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                              bbulkow Apr 16, 2009 09:04 PM

                              I hit up Lingba today, and they're still packing 'em in. The mixed drinks are fun but not perfectly mixed, and the thai is a strange mix of fusion and authentic. There are dishes I've never seen elsewhere, and some mashups. The bar area was full by not crowded by 8pm on a thursday.

                              If you sit at the bar and turn around, or sit the very nearest the entrance, you can watch the sun set over the Anchor Brewery, which was steaming a bit in the failing sun. Must have been brewing today.

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                                rworange Apr 17, 2009 01:29 PM

                                Did you have anything to eat or just drinks. The menu is on the website which is on the Place record link.

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                                Lingba Lounge
                                1469 18th St, San Francisco, CA 94107

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                              Diana Feb 14, 2008 08:07 AM

                              Trust me, our LA ultra hoppy eer is indeed as fresh. We do get bottles, you know. And heck, we brew our own...super good!

                              As A beer geek, I have tasted a good variety, and SF is going to be fun for finding my faves and a few new ones, perhaps. The one thing we DON'T have here is a good number of really great beer spots. Oh, we have a few, but not the wealth up north. If you come down here, I recommend Boneyard Bistro, Lucky Baldwin's, Pure Luck, McG's, Delerium, Crown City, Bottleworks, stuffed sandwich and a few more.

                              My Dad is odd. He has a set list he likes, and he'll explore a little, but he can go really juvenile if he decides he doesn't like the theme or look of a place. He loves American, Englsh, French, Italian, even some ethiopian, adores chinese and will eat greek and middle eastern if there's lamb.

                              Forget sushi. tantrum time. Forget a veggie place that offers no meat. BIG tantrum. He once blew up at a Japanese waitress because she had no knives to give him (he hates chopsticks) Indian, he might do.

                              Slow service riles him to no end.

                              But he does enjoy many interesting places.

                              If I could find a cafe that offered good food at $$-$$$ prices, it would be good. I thought Chez maman might do it, but now, I dunno.

                              Really, it can be ANYWHERE in main SF. How is Chapeau?

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                                grishnackh Feb 14, 2008 09:41 AM

                                Chapeau is great. Its white tablecloth and can be a little jam-packed, but I've never had a bad meal there.

                                Plus, as a French bistro, there is almost always some sort of red meat on the menu whether it is steak frites or something similar. A DC and I once had their cote'de'bouef for two and went home very happy indeed.

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                                Chapeau!
                                126 Clement St, San Francisco, CA 94118

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                                  Candice Feb 14, 2008 10:37 AM

                                  I went to Couleur Cafe last weekend with 3 others and we were all happy with our meal. One had an entree nicoise salad, 2 had the steak frites, and I had the mussels in cream with bacon. The frites are really good and there are a lot of "normal" choices on the menu for the pickier folks. I want to go back and try the burger. Also a plus, it has a parking lot. It's in Potrero and is owned by the Chez Maman, Chez Papa people.
                                  http://www.couleurcafesf.com/

                                  1. re: Candice
                                    pamf Apr 18, 2009 10:55 AM

                                    Cafe Couleur has since closed and reopened as Pizza Nostra

                                    http://pizzanostrasf.com/contact.html

                                    Same owners I believe

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                                    Pizza Nostra
                                    300 De Haro St, San Francisco, CA

                                2. re: Diana
                                  norjah Feb 14, 2008 10:42 AM

                                  Based on your various and evolving descriptions of what you are looking for, Eliza's will likely fit the bill. It is good, reasonably priced Chinese with forks and knives available. The food isn't overly oily/saucy so it would meet your light/salads criteria, if that still applies.

                                  Chapeau is fabulous, but in no way light/salads, it is french bistro food. It is a decent trek out to the Richmond and difficult to park.

                                  1. re: Diana
                                    Robert Lauriston Feb 14, 2008 10:49 AM

                                    Speaking of beer spots in LA, maybe you could weigh in on this topic:

                                    http://www.chowhound.com/topics/489674

                                    1. re: Diana
                                      rworange Feb 14, 2008 02:35 PM

                                      Since it can be anywhere, you might consider Town's End
                                      http://www.townsend-restaurant.com/

                                      I have a lot of luck with picky eaters there. There's a 3 course dinner for $21.95 where you can choose any app, entree or dessert on the menu. They have an in-house bakery so dinner comes with a great bread basket. The lemon meringue pie is also very good. Much of the food is organic.

                                      They are also known for their breakfasts.

                                      It is not that far from Potrero. It is near the ballpark on the Embarcadero and there is a teeny view.

                                      Speaking of which, your dad might enjoy Delancy Street too which is near Town's End.
                                      http://www.delanceystreetfoundation.o...

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