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Perfex Pepper Mill Problem

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Emerson13 Feb 8, 2008 11:05 PM

I bought my wife a set of Perfex Mills for Christmas based on different reviews I saw on the net. The problem is despite my attempts to adjust the nut on the bottom, the mill does not grind. If I screw it too tight- nothing, too loose and a few flakes for a lot of work. Has anyone else had a similar issue? Can you disassemble the whole thing and reallign things inside? If so, what am I looking to re-set? Thanks for any advice.

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  1. foodiesf RE: Emerson13 Feb 9, 2008 05:35 PM

    I have two separate salt/pepper sets of Perfex mills -- four in total. And I've never had the problem that you are talking about. In fact, I've never heard of it either. You shouldn't have to do anything other then open the little hatch, pour in your whole peppercorns or sea salt, then turn the handle...and out comes perfectly ground pepper and perfectly-sized salt crystals. You can change the courseness by swiveling the large nut underneath -- just hold the mill in your left hand and turn that nut clockwise for a smaller grain and counter-clockwise for larger grains. But that's it. You definitely shouldn't have to "realign" anything inside the machine. And if you try to, you'll likely void the warranty. I'd take them back to the retailer and get a pair that work. You'll know when you have a pair that works -- they are absolutely perfect.

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      Germantowner RE: Emerson13 Dec 30, 2008 02:53 PM

      I have the Perfex pepper mills in the small (4") and large (8"?) sizes, and they both have a similar problem: the setting nut on the bottom is loose, and the mills "auto change" from fine grind to coarse grind. I haven't experienced the problem that you have, but I suspect that there are a lot of problems with the adjustments on these mills. They look good, are easy to fill and clean, but the user shouldn't have to adjust the grind several times part way through the grinding process.

      Disassembly is quick and easy because there are almost no parts to worry about. There is a shaft from the grinding handle on top, and there is the grinding tool that engages the bottom of the grinder, and there is the nut that you can hand-tighten or -loosen, and that is about it. Oh, yes, there is a spring in there, too.

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        gadzooks RE: Germantowner Apr 9, 2009 04:13 PM

        Hi. I'm new here, and recently bought a "Perfex" peppermill on eBay, to match my Perfex salt mill. It doesn't. I took it apart to see why it doesn't grind as well as the salt mill, and discovered that the lower mill wheel is NOT steel, as should be, but nickel-plated brass. It's a knock-off, a fake.

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          pericolosa RE: gadzooks Jul 25, 2009 03:30 AM

          Gadzooks!

          Is it obvious, easy to see, when the lower mill wheel is not steel, but nickel-plated brass or something else? I recently found a few pepper mills on eBay for cheap that look like vintage Perfexs and I'm curious to examine them and see if I in fact got lucky ,,, or not.

          I've used the real thing in the past and loved it, but I don't have one on hand to compare directly.

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            Tinkerbell RE: pericolosa Sep 1, 2013 09:08 AM

            I read about those cheap look alikes. The one thing I think tells you it is not Perfex is the S or P are not on the front of them. I do not think any Perfex manufactured ones are without the initials on the front. Correct me if I am wrong. I saw them on Ebay listed as perfex and I do not think they are perfex as they have the slick plain fronts opening doors
            . So beware. Also I found a review where I found these look alikes that says they are not really worth the money and not made like real Perfex salt and pepper shakers.

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              MacGuffin RE: Tinkerbell Oct 3, 2013 10:05 PM

              Sorry, but I have to debunk your theory. I bought my first Perfex at Zabar's quite a few years ago and there's no P or S on it, nor were there Perfex salt mills for sale there at the time. Given that, and that I still store it in the original box, labeled "MOULIN à POIVRE," I have to conclude that Perfex only manufactured pepper mills at that time, hence no need to brand them with a letter.

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                paulj RE: MacGuffin Oct 4, 2013 09:27 AM

                I have a small Perfex style pepper mill that I bought in the 1980s. There are no markings on it, no name or S or P. I have no idea what I paid, or whether it even came in a box.

                My only complaint is that the capacity is low, requiring frequent refilling. But with the hopper, refilling isn't a pain.

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                  MacGuffin RE: paulj Oct 4, 2013 01:22 PM

                  That's about when I bought mine--I know it wasn't the 70's so it would've been the very early 80's--long before the Euro appeared on the scene and the exchange rate against the franc was pretty good. I remember it was expensive even then, probably in the $30 - $40 range. I live alone and to tell you the truth, I never fill the hopper. I keep my peppercorns in the freezer and add them to my Perfex as needed. Freezing keeps the flavors vibrant and fresh.

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              Tinkerbell RE: pericolosa Oct 4, 2013 09:03 AM

              Since they do not have S and P on them sometimes, then if I bought any on Ebay, I would look for the boxed ones to be certain when buying but. I already read where two plain front ones and identical looking ones for sale were another brand. I mean they really looked identical and I thought people could possibly sell as Perfex. I think if you have actually owned them, or looked at them in stores, and if not, then I will say this, the Pefex ones do have Perfex on the bottom so anyone out there would know the difference if bought without name or regardless of S and P not being on them or on them one.

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              jayeno RE: gadzooks Oct 4, 2013 01:57 PM

              Depending on WHEN you purchased it "if it was represented to be a Perfex" mill you should have a 14 day recourse right against the Seller for misrepresenting WHAT HE/SHE WAS SELLING. eBay is NOT a venue for fraudulent goods. You may take it up with eBay itself OR WITH PAYPAL if you paid by that method of payment. REMEMBER FOLKS, IF IT SOUNDS TO GOOD TO BE TRUE, IT PROBABLY IS........

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                MacGuffin RE: jayeno Oct 4, 2013 02:10 PM

                ...except for my $30 (shipping included) Perfex salt mill bought a few years ago. I REALLY lucked out on that one. And yes, it's authentic and was NIB. In fact, it's STILL NIB because I have yet to use it (I usually use Maldon).

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              forensicps RE: Germantowner Aug 22, 2009 11:52 AM

              I have been searching, unsuccessfully, for the 8" Perfex pepper mill. Where did you find one? Thanks.

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                Tinkerbell RE: forensicps Sep 1, 2013 09:15 AM

                Well I finally found your question once again. I hope you receive this note. I found one and ordered it. It is absolutely beautiful and a workhorse. But the price is the killer. $213 with tax. I figure it will last me the rest of my life as I have two small ones that I have had for years and years. I just use a lot of pepper and am always filling the small pepper grinder over and over. This 7 1/2 inch one holds a bunch of pepper corns too. Sur Lu Table is the only place I could ever find one and I have been searching for a long time. I saw your note awhile back. I have questioned on other reviews if anyone knows where the larger one could be bought and no reply. So I gave up. If anyone finds them cheaper let me know. I did not have a coupon or could not find one under coupons for percentage off. However, look for one. There may finally be one and you certainly need one.

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              jayeno RE: Emerson13 Jun 26, 2009 08:25 PM

              I bought the 4.5" Perfex pepper mill based upon the recommendations on this site. It is pretty great, worth the cost, maybe but the course grind is inconsistent and for the price I think everything about the mill should be perfect. I have a much less expensive mill which mills the pepper fine to course beautifully. But the Perfex is a gorgeous mill.

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                Tinkerbell RE: Emerson13 Oct 4, 2013 09:41 AM

                Paul J, you did look at the underneath of the pepper grinder? I bought mine in late nineties and they have the name on the bottom of the circle around the nut screwed on stem. I too fill them, both S&P, often but love the product I get from them. I bought a little aluminum deal that I can just pull the side out, insert and pour real easy into it and see when there is enough without spilling one bean. I really love the pepper grinders. The larger pepper one of the 2 I have is great but too expensive to buy really. I never have to fill it often like the small one. Your grinder may be like the one I saw on Ebay that is not a Perfex. If it works, great.

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                  paulj RE: Tinkerbell Oct 4, 2013 10:21 AM

                  Found it - stamped on the underside of the handle:

                  "Perfex" made in France

                  Evidently it is from the days before name-brand recognition. Also it is more of a utility model, not a shiny table service model.

                  I may have bought it as early as the mid 1970s (as a single grad student).

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                    MacGuffin RE: Tinkerbell Oct 4, 2013 01:36 PM

                    You seem loath to surrender your notion that "lack of P ≠ Perfex." Trust me, it ain't necessarily so and you're scaremongering. Paulj likely bought his Perfex in a brick-and-mortar establishment, in the days before the salt mill was available (not to mention the knockoffs), not recently or online, ergo he has a genuine Perfex. There are several without a P listed on eBay at the time of this post and all three are engraved under the handle (hence authentic) but not on the underside of the grinder--just like mine and unlike my much-newer salt mill which is stamped in both places. And good luck trying to find a vintage Perfex listed for sale in its original box. I just happen to have mine because I'm anal.

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                    Tinkerbell RE: Emerson13 Oct 4, 2013 05:33 PM

                    I use Maldon too but like it ground up better. I just have the small Perfex and what little salt I use, the small one does not have to be refilled often. Pepper I go through enough that I had to buy the large one. I was filling the small one up all the time. That is why I like the small funnel that I found as it makes it easier and I do not spill as much. Something about that little shutter I just always pour too fast. The funnel I found fits perfect into the shutter and if any salt runs out fast, or pepper corns, it seems to hold the extra better for it to travel into the grinder.

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                      MacGuffin RE: Tinkerbell Oct 4, 2013 06:25 PM

                      Ah, but Maldon crumbles between the fingers so beautifully!

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                      Tinkerbell RE: Emerson13 Oct 5, 2013 01:47 PM

                      Yes, it does crumble beautifully and I have done that when in a rush!!

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                        MacGuffin RE: Tinkerbell Oct 5, 2013 02:40 PM

                        It really is nice to use, isn't it? :) I keep mine in a salt box on the counter--it's my go-to salt. And BTW, their smoked salt is lots of fun to play with.

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