Hakka Restaurants in Montreal?
I was just wondering...does anyone know of a hakka restaurant in Montreal? Apparently, they're all over the place in Ontario, but can't be found here, in "la belle province." For those of you that don't know, hakka cuisine is an amalgamation of chinese-indian. The food's very good and incorporates the best of both cusines. While visiting my sister a couple of months ago, we went and ate at Eddie's Wok'n'Roll restaurant in Mississauga. The food was delicious, and I've been looking off and on for a hakka restaurant in Montreal ever since.
Don't know if it's in operation but if anyone want's to explore, I was driving down boulevard de la verendrye when you exit from hwy 15 and going towards rue allard and I noticed a restaurant the corner of rue Raudot and de la Verendrye.
On the sign it said cuisine indienne et asiatique (indian and asian).
I searched on google map and the picture shows on one sign japanese et chinese and on the other the word japanese is erased. If my eyes didn't trick me, I can swear I saw the word cuisine indienne (indian) and asiatique (asian).
link google street view
my best guess from this ad in Montreal Express is that it is a distinctly Quebecois version of what would be relatively cheap and easy food to make and deliver
http://annonces.transcontinentalmedia... they might do their cooking with an immense amount of pride, and it probably is quite tasty. However, as I said I would presume that they cook for the neighborhood, or what they think the neighborhood wants.
Here's something from wiki in re: Hakka cuisine:
In places such as India, and other places of Indian diaspora overseas, Hakka Cuisine is erroneously known as something that bears little to no resemblance to actual traditional Hakka dishes. This variation of "Hakka Cuisine" is in reality, mostly Indian Chinese cuisine, falsely known as Hakka since many Chinese restaurant owners in India were of Hakka origin. Typical dishes include Chilli Chicken and Manchurian Chow Mein (which in turn has no resemblance to real Manchurian cuisine), and these restaurants also serve traditional Indian dishes such as Pakora. Being immensely popular in these regions, this style of cuisine is often falsely credited of being representative of Hakka Cuisine in general and authentic style of Hakka Cuisine is rarely known in these areas.
The closest thing I can think of is Nyonya food of which there is Nonya restaurant.
I do not surf a lot but Hakka cuisine is definitely NOT an amalgamation of Chinese-Indian cuisine. The delicious food served at Eddie's Wok"Roll in Mississauga may be Chinese-Indian Fusion food which IS delicious but I repeat, Hakka is a very distinct cuisine!.
I am Hakka and I am a Montrealer.
As a Hakka person, I do not go out and look for Hakka restaurants but rather all other ethnic and exotic restaurants in the city. I'll certainly look for Hakka restaurants and try them for Chowhound and will post my findings.
Hope Chai Latte is not offended.
re: the taipan
I am looking forward to any suggestions you might have, the taipan. I fear we don't have much by way of Hakka in Montreal, but I would love to be wrong on this one.
What are your favorite Hakka dishes?
( and to respond to JadeMyst:; My understanding was that Nonya is more indonesian or Malaysian? Different than Hakka.)
Nonya is 'Straits Chinese' or Overseas Chinese cuisine that would be considered a fusion cuisine of one of the Chinese cuisine, usually Fukien with whichever country the Chinese settled in the Indonesia-Malay-Singapore area. I figured that the Nonya style might be the closest in style to the Hakka-Indian style that we might have here in Montreal since I haven't come across any Hakka-Indian restaurants here. Some Chinese restaurants here might offer a Hakka dish or two on their menus, but I'm not sure how authentic it might be as I've only met one Hakka in Montreal and that was only in passing in an office.
Nonya restaurant in Montreal is indeed Indonesian - it states that pretty clearly on their web site (and certainly was the last time I was there). So it's not "nonya" cuisine - I seem to recall being told that the name had some meaning in Indonesian, but I can't remember what.
Not to be a stickler (which, of course, is exactly what I am doing) but Hakka cuisine is exactly a variant of Chinese cuisine. The Hakka are an ethnicity from Southern China who are distinct from the Han majority. I used to live in Taipei where it is very popular. As with most authentic regional Chinese cuisine, I suspect it is very hard to find in Montreal.
"Not to be a stickler (which, of course, is exactly what I am doing) but Hakka cuisine is exactly a variant of Chinese cuisine. The Hakka are an ethnicity from Southern China who are distinct from the Han majority. I used to live in Taipei where it is very popular. As with most authentic regional Chinese cuisine, I suspect it is very hard to find in Montreal."
Technically, you are correct, Thelonious777. However, Hakka cuisine has become synonymous with Indian style Chinese food in North America.
Here are some links for more info:
While dining at Eddie's Wok 'n' Roll restaurant, the food was definitely a fusion of Chinese-Indian. Aspects of both cusines were present in all the dishes. The wait staff themselves were Hakka people. The waiter that served me had a south east asian complexion, had the hair of a far east asian, spoke English with a slight indian accent, and spoke flawless Cantonese.
I've got friends and colleagues that are south east asian, they regularly go to Toronto to visit friends and family. While there, many take advantage of the fact that Hakka restaurants abound in Ontario. A indian colleague of mine had a similiar experience - while dining at a Hakka restaurant in Toronto with friends, they were waited upon by a chinese/indian server. The waitress spoke punjabi, english, and chinese.
re: Chai Latte
It sounds like you're looking for Calcutta Chinese restaurants, not Hakka restos.
Calcutta has a somewhat sizable community of Hakka that dates back to the 18th century. Since the 1980s, though, many of those Hakka have immigrated to Toronto.
The Toronto area is the only place in the world outside India with a large number of Calcutta Chinese, so you're not going to find these restaurants anywhere else.
Actual Hakka cuisine is similar to Cantonese cuisine:
I don't know of any hakka restos in Montreal, But Dev does serve some Chinese-Indian dishes. I tried their "chicken manchuria" and it was OK. I've never had this style of food before so it's hard to tell if the dish wasn't prepared well, or if it just isn't my thing.
I also remember seeing an Indian / Nepalese / Chinese resto on Jean- Talon near St- Urbain, but I have a feeling this place is more Himalayan cuisine (Momos, ect.) It might be worth checking out though.