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VanyaD Feb 5, 2008 02:28 PM

Hi everyone,

We're looking for a very-good-to-excellent BYOW for an upcoming celebratory dinner. Over the years we've enjoyed quite a few, but we're always eager to try something new. Faves include La Colombe, Les Infideles, Les Heritiers, Le P'tit Plateau; less recently Yo-Yo, Le Pegase, La Prunelle, L'Entrepont, Le poisson rouge ... you get the idea. Any suggestions? We've heard that Le Bleu Raisin is good - could anyone confirm that?

Thanks!

  1. thehotplate Nov 25, 2009 04:05 AM

    if you haven't given Monsieur B yet then you're in for a treat! Same concept as Les Infidele, O Thym or Les Heritiers but it is the newest! Delicious, a little more high end than Les Inf and OThym. Just had a birthday dinner there and it was perfect. The ambience is dark, cozy yet trendy and you most certainly need a reservation because it is intimate just like the others. The table d'hote runs about $45, but you can easily order off the menu if you don't want to spring for that much. Personally, any meal from those restaurants are completely worth it; especially, if it's celebratory!

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      fullabeans Nov 9, 2008 10:34 AM

      L'Atelier is now byob (St Laurent north of Fairmount) if you haven't got it on your list, add it! They are connected also to the Bleu Raisin, which I also have had wonderful meals at.

      enjoy!

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        KSC02 Nov 24, 2009 05:49 AM

        Tying into a few posts above regarding Christophe's; I've gone there several times over the past couple of years or so. Originally, I was not impressed with this restaurant's level of cuisine and slow service, and only went with friends that insisted they loved it. However, over the past year I have honestly experienced some excellent, high quality, well prepared meals and the service has usually been very attentive. They've really brought up their game the past several months and I applaud this. An excellent BYOB.

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        shibl Nov 7, 2008 10:09 PM

        We had a great experience at Apollo, however some of our friends tried later and found it mediocre.

        Note that the night we were there it was the sous-chef who was in the kitchen!

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          moh May 7, 2008 08:39 AM

          I had a chance to try Restaurant Yoyo again recently. This used to be my absolutely favorite BYOB, but I had not returned for several years. I'm happy to say it is still a lovely choice.

          I had the duck confit ravioli served mediterranean style with tomato confit as an appetizer. The serving was very hearty. The tomato confit was very flavourful. The "ravioli" was actually a large crepe wrapped around pieces of tender duck confit. The combination was rustic but satisfying. I then went onto deer in a cepe sauce. The deer was tender and nicely cooked, and the sauce was rich and savoury, heavily reduced as are all the sauces at Yoyo. They do an excellent job on rich brown sauces. The sides were a bit overly simple, but well prepared, and consisted of a single carrot and some nicely roasted salted potatoes. The sides were a little ho-hum for my tastes, but certainly tasty. I then finished with a perfect profiterole dessert. Very classically prepared and tasty.

          The food is not terrifically innovative, but everything is very well-prepared, and the combinations are classic. The food is very wine friendly, the glasses are good quality stemware, very nice if you are bringing a special bottle. The sauces (always their strength) are a work of art. The menu is very meat heavy (not such a great place to bring a vegetarian), but you can get sweetbreads, boudin noir, and last night they offered kidney as a special, so you can get some interesting ingredients there. I'm very happy to have it back in the rotation again!

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            lagatta May 7, 2008 07:12 AM

            Has anyone been to a byow called La Charade on St-Denis in the Plateau? I know nothing about this resto, just happened to see it cycling past - seemed to have a nice terrasse. Restaurant La Charade
            514-842-7916
            4115, rue Saint-Denis , Montréal , QC H2W 2M7

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              swissfoodie Feb 25, 2008 10:22 AM

              Any good but not so expensive BYOW on the plateau to recommend?

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                emerilcantcook Feb 13, 2008 07:27 AM

                Excuse me if I am hijacking the thread, but what are your favorite mid range non-French BYOWs these days? Something a little bit more special then say, La Selva, perhaps something like Khyber Pass, which I like (but my partner finds it very ordinary). As much as I love the French BYOB scene, another decadent dinner of duck, offal and creme brulee sometimes doesn't excite me.

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                  cricri7 Feb 13, 2008 02:33 PM

                  I have never been there, but most of my friends have been, but there is Le piton de la fournaise. Some love it and some don't.....

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                  swissfoodie Feb 12, 2008 04:27 AM

                  Briefly mentionned but not discussed: Le Pegase. What is the general opinion and how does it differ from others on the list. Seems very French, like all the others...

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                    cricri7 Feb 12, 2008 12:58 PM

                    I went there this summer and liked it but was not that impressed. It is a bit less expensive than most of the other ones discussed here. It is a very small place where you don't go with a group. I thought it was good quality for the price.

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                      carswell Feb 12, 2008 01:09 PM

                      Was there last spring and it really hasn't changed much since my writeup of an earlier visit. So, consistency they've got, though you might question whether that's a good thing. www.chowhound.com/topics/97560#530732 (johnnyboy, we hardly knew ye!)

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                        johnnyboy Nov 8, 2008 08:54 AM

                        Hey, I'm still alive !
                        Though I don't visit here as often as before - too busy eating !

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                      moh Feb 5, 2008 03:52 PM

                      I've enjoyed Le Bleu Raisin the 2 times I've been. I would agree with Carswell's assessment that the chef is ambitious. When things work they are great! So I like to go there. But I found that sometimes he tries some unusual cheese additions that don't always work for my palate. I recall not being thrilled with a mushroom appetizer that he had paired with melted cheese, I can't recall the name, but the cheese clashed with the mushrooms and the very rich brown sauce. So now I try to pick a little more carefully, and for the most part, I really enjoy his dishes.

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                        VanyaD Feb 10, 2008 09:28 AM

                        Thanks for the comments! We did go to Le Bleu Raisin and loved the food (including, I must say, the cheesy additions, all of which were very expertly dosed - just enough to add a certain je ne sais quoi but not in any way overwhelming). We'll definitely be going back, though probably not on a Saturday. The acoustics are awkward and on a busy night having a conversation is a bit of a problem (not to mention the fact that service doesn't sparkle either). The charming chef recommended Tuesday or Wednesday for those who'd prefer a quieter atmosphere. Not complaining, though - the food made it worthwhile. Best jarret d'agneau I've had in a while.

                      2. carswell Feb 5, 2008 03:35 PM

                        Le Bleu Raisin is one of the more ambitious BYOWs and hits far more often than it misses. What's more, the chef is a wine lover who will sometimes spontaneously improvise to bring a dish closer to your wine.

                        Two other places worth considering: Christophe in Outremont and, possibly, Apollo in Little Italy (possibly because recent reviews have been mixed).

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                          cricri7 Feb 5, 2008 03:41 PM

                          I was really dissapointed when I went to Christophe a couple of years ago. I thought it was really expensive for what we got. The table d'hôte was around 40$ and the service was incredibly bad. There was no air conditioning in our private room where we were and were dying from heat! Almost everyone was dissapointed with their food. It was in July so maybe the chef was off but I won,t be going back there.

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                            carswell Feb 5, 2008 03:51 PM

                            Sorry to hear that. As I recall, the chef usually takes July or part of July and August off, though my memory is that they shut the restaurant those weeks. Anyway, my several experiences have been quite different. Never phenomenal -- unlike his first, non-BYOW restaurant on Lajoie (where Delfino was until recently) -- but consistently good. And while there's one waiter who'd be more at home selling used cars in Sorrel, service has always been competent. Personally, I'd take Christophe over La Colombe and À l'os and company any day of the week, especially if I were bringing a fine bottle of, say, Burgundy.

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                            Moosemeat Feb 5, 2008 03:47 PM

                            The best food / wine pairing I've ever had was at Bleu Raisin. I called ahead to ask for a wine suggestion from the chef, and he was spot on.
                            This might not be as important to someone who knows wine (eg. Carswell), but for me, it puts Bleu Raisin a cut above any other BYOB in the city.

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                              VanyaD Feb 5, 2008 06:22 PM

                              Apollo was likewise on the short list but the reviews I've seen weren't exactly confidence-inspiring. Le Bleu Raisin sounds definitely worth trying, though! Le zeste de folie too, though maybe on another occasion. Thanks all - I'll report back.

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                                SnackHappy Feb 5, 2008 06:35 PM

                                I didn't really love Apollo when we went there, last fall. Most of the dishes came out cold. They were not as inspired and unusual as what we had read about in early reviews. The desserts were the most disappointing, though. Kinda boring. It's not bad food, but I don't think it's worth the money. Bleu Raisin is a much better bet.

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                                  swissfoodie Feb 6, 2008 05:51 AM

                                  I agree with Christophe. Went recently with a tasting group and found that they were really accomodating and the food was lovely.

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                                    afoodyear Feb 6, 2008 09:55 AM

                                    Reading a comment like "the chef... will sometimes spontaneously improvise to bring a dish closer to your wine" is a really fantastic way to sell a restaurant :) Where is Le Bleu Raisin? What kind of food?

                                    1. re: afoodyear
                                      carswell Feb 6, 2008 09:59 AM

                                      On St-Denis north of Laurier. Cooking is contemporary market-driven French. See www.lebleuraisin.com

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                                    cricri7 Feb 5, 2008 03:14 PM

                                    I would go to Le zeste de folie on Masson. The food is really incredible. You have to make reservations, sometimes also during the week, because it is pretty popular. Their tartare is always incredible. I had a tataki d'agneau with a 70% chocolate sauce that was also great. Their bavette de bison is always tender and juicy. Plus you got to have their butterscotch cake with warm caramel on top!

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