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ISO coal fired pizza

hello, i have had very good Coal Fired pizza (at Lambardis (sp?) in ny and anthony's in florida) and would like to find some in los angeles. It has a unique taste from the special ovens. I live on the westside but could drive almost anywhere. Thanks

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  1. Southern California Air Quality Management District says "NO COAL" for you!

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    1. re: Servorg

      hey servorg,
      i was looking through the SCAQMD's rules and couldn't find anything about coal (anthractie) being banned. could you let me know where you got that info?


      1. re: tk421

        There was a BBQ at Fig & Sunset years ago and they used wood inside, they had to spend thousands and thousands to meet AQMD guidlines. When BBQ King took over they just moved the smoking outside and there you have it, no problems. I think it would just be so expensive to have coal or wood fired in doors.

        1. re: tk421

          I know this is an old thread, but I had to comment.

          I have a friend who had a coffee shop in Costa Mesa where he roasted his own beans on site. He was getting so popular he wanted to move to a larger space across the street.

          The AQMD told him he'd need to install some devices on his roaster that were going to cost about $25,000, so he didn't move, didn't expand his business and was so embittered over the 18 month process that he went through he wound up selling his business and moving to Montana.

          1. re: scottca075

            The AQMD and the California Coastal Commission are pretty tough about issues like this. Gourmet Coffee Warehouse (now Groundwork) ran into the same issue years ago when they started roasting their beans on Rose, a block west of Lincoln. The surrounding neighborhood was up in arms about the exhaust issues from the roasting, and it didn't take long for the authorities to slap a cease-and-desist order on the shop. The roasting can be quite noxious. Montana doesn't have the population-related issues like SoCal. Aside from the diametrically opposed political views, what is an issue here obviously may or may not be one there.

            1. re: bulavinaka

              Groundworks is pretty noxious to begin with.

              recently i tried two guns espresso and deux ex machina (i so hate that name) serving up handsome coffee. and pretty good berry munchers.

              1. re: kevin

                Groundwork had their day in the former self asGourmet Coffee Warehouse. They were sourcing beans from specific countries and then single source and organic. This was back in the early 90s?

                Haven't tried Two Guns but I've been tight-lipped about DEM and their beans - coffee counter disguised as a vintage biker shop.

                1. re: bulavinaka

                  tight-lipped ?

                  you're not a fan of DEM (i hate that name and i hate that's it pretty darn pretentious), but i do like that rasberry thing and the lattes.

                  1. re: kevin

                    They do good coffee. It's somewhat off the radar so it's still easy to grab a cup there. Shhhh...

                    1. re: bulavinaka

                      I see.

                      My bad.

                      I just learned about it a few weeks ago.

                      Sorry. Fuck.

                      1. re: kevin

                        Hounds be cool, especially you, Kev.

      2. No coal... but Mozza has a wood burning oven.

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        1. There are no coal ovens in the Los Angeles area. There are very few in New York, either -- Lombardi's got grandfathered in.

          1. There are no coal fired pizzerias in Los Angeles. A couple of places have wood-fired ovens, which is the closest you will get here, including Mozza Pizzeria, Il Capriccio Pizzeria and Nicky D's. Mozza is the closest to the westside, on Highland and Melrose.




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            1. re: DanaB

              Sit at the counter at Toscana in Brentwood and watch those pizzas slide in and out of the wood-burning oven.

            2. none to be had in la like others have already replied. i hear you though and agree whole heartedly. the best pizzas i've ever had have all been from coal brick ovens. for those out there that have not yet tried, move that to the top of your to do list.

              closest you'll find is in vegas at another branch of grimaldi's (joining existing multiple locations in phoenix).

              1. Port Town Cafe in San Pedro has a wood burning oven. Great little gem and good pizza. Nothing fancy. Pizza runs between $8 - $12.

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                  1. i believe that antica pizzaria uses a wood-burning oven

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                    1. A weekend vacation to Las Vegas will suffice if you really wanted it. Grimaldi's fires coal oven pizza throughout LV and it tastes exactly the same as the Brooklyn location.

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                      1. re: A5 KOBE

                        Same with Arizona, also Grimaldi's in Scottsdale and Tucson. Possibly some other places as well.

                        1. re: A5 KOBE

                          I am not a big fan of Grimaldi's, having gone to their Brooklyn store and their Phoenix store, and been disappointed in both. John's on Bleeker St in NYC is heads and shoulders over Grimaldi. The point of this answer is to tell you that just because they use a coal fired oven is not a good enough reason to expect an excellent pie. An excellent pie is always in the hands of the Pizziolo, who hopefully makes the dough as well as constructs the pie. Lucky me, tomorrow night I will be having several pies with my family at Pizzeria Bianco. They use a wood fired oven.

                          1. re: A5 KOBE

                            Actually, the LV version is not exactly the same as Brooklyn Grimaldi's. I prefer the Brooklyn version the best and prefer it over John's on Bleeker St too. The sauce has a more vibrant tomato flavor and the mozzarella at Brooklyn Grimaldi's is super bright white compared to those others.

                            1. re: Ernie

                              The Brooklyn location is so crowded that the bricks in the ovens do not stay hot enough for the crusts to fully crisp. If anything, I have had better pies at the LV location. Same slightly acidic sauce and mozzarella.

                              The Brooklyn location is all gimmick, a foodie tourist trap if you ask me. I too prefer John's. But this is about coal fired pizza.

                              1. re: A5 KOBE

                                Yes, it is popular with tourists but for good reason. The LV location is good, but not as good as my last trip to Brooklyn Grimaldi's.

                                1. re: Ernie

                                  A few months ago, I heard a rumor about a coal oven pizza restaurant opening in the Los Angeles area. Any news?

                                  1. re: jgilbert1000

                                    Grimaldi's - Thread on the LA CH board here: http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/883134 and probably soon to open (this month or next possibly).

                                    1. re: Servorg

                                      Their Corporate office in Scottsdale AZ just said that the El Segundo opening is now anticipated in the Fall of this year, although I would have to believe that they are so sick of people calling and asking about the opening that they are telling that time line just to get folks off their backs so they can get some actual work done...

                                      1. re: Servorg

                                        Just want to add, went to another inside the Palazzo and it was terrible. What a difference 10 miles makes.

                                        Hopefully the El Segundo location will be a winner.

                          2. 800 Degrees in Westwood also uses a wood-fired oven.

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                            1. re: Sam D.

                              Not "wood-fired" but "coal-fired" was the question. To which the answer will be Grimaldi's in El Segundo when they finally open sometime this year.