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  <id>485650</id>
  <title>Portuguese Linguica vs Spanish Chorizo</title>
  <published_at>Sat Feb 02 10:20:02 -0800 2008</published_at>
  <post_count>33</post_count>
  <board>
    <id>27</id>
    <name>General Chowhounding Topics</name>
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    <post>
      <post>
        <level>0</level>
        <id>3358566</id>
        <content>What might be the defining differences between these two Old World pork products?

(note: not discussing Mexican chorizo)

Familiar with Portuguese linguisa sausage, but not the Spanish product.

Can you illuminate?

Thanks

edit: I did find this:http://www.tienda.com/reference/chorizo.html</content>
        <published_at>Sat Feb 02 10:20:02 -0800 2008</published_at>
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        <user>
          <id>11234</id>
          <name>toodie jane</name>
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    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>3358633</id>
      <content>The linguica I have had in Massachusetts (along the coast, lots of Portugese people) has had a distinct anise flavor and the chunks of pork have been large. Chorizo, on the other hand, is more garlicky and peppery and is red inside, which linguica is not.</content>
      <published_at>Sat Feb 02 10:46:52 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3358566</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>15521</id>
        <name>Querencia</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>3358645</id>
      <content>depends on what it is used for, although Portugese dishes are heavily made with seafood, i find the coarseness of linguica lends itself well to more rustic dishes where as the chorizo i use in things like paella, i know i'll get a lot of flack for that one but it is my preference.</content>
      <published_at>Sat Feb 02 10:51:39 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3358566</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>71004</id>
        <name>breadfan</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>3358707</id>
      <content>where do you get Spanish Chorizo? is it domestic or imported? While I can get lots of Mexican chorizo, I've never seen Spanish chorizo here in California.</content>
      <published_at>Sat Feb 02 11:14:09 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3358645</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>11234</id>
        <name>toodie jane</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>3359629</id>
      <content>The only local Spanish chorizo 'supplier' I've seen is La Espanola. IIRC they make some and import some. See website in the link for online ordering.</content>
      <published_at>Sat Feb 02 17:10:31 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3358707</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>23712</id>
        <name>DiveFan</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>3362385</id>
      <content>Hobb's makes Spanish chorizo. Spanish Table in Berkeley or Marin has Spanish chorizo which can also be ordered on-line.
http://www.spanishtable.com/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&amp;Store_Code=TST&amp;Category_Code=4933

There are a few other places in the SF Bay Area. </content>
      <published_at>Sun Feb 03 20:25:42 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3358707</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10264</id>
        <name>rworange</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>3366406</id>
      <content>In addition to the Spanish Table and Hobb's, the Fatted Calf also makes Spanish-style chorizo AND linguica.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Feb 05 08:10:33 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3358707</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>28122</id>
        <name>zin1953</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>3359173</id>
      <content>I cook with both linguica and chourico (which is also portuguese). In my family, the linguica can be eaten plain (fried or grilled) or added to a dish. The chourico (hotter and spicier) is always added to a dish</content>
      <published_at>Sat Feb 02 14:14:39 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3358566</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>110306</id>
        <name>NE_Elaine</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>3359289</id>
      <content>I generally use courico when chorizo is called for, since it is just easier to find in Toronto, and, IMHO, quite similar.

I recall having trouble finding any brand of Mexican chorizo in Dallas that was not made from the salivafry glands of pigs.</content>
      <published_at>Sat Feb 02 14:57:28 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3359173</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>54222</id>
        <name>ekammin</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>3361815</id>
      <content>Well, Mexican chorizo is an entirely different beast from either linguica or Spanish chorizo: I've only ever seen Mexican chorizo for sale in its raw form, whereas the others are cured and smoked.</content>
      <published_at>Sun Feb 03 15:01:58 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3359289</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>17548</id>
        <name>BarmyFotheringayPhipps</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>3363003</id>
      <content>Fascinating discussion....Barmy, you say you've only seen Mexican chorizo in the raw form...here in SW Florida, supermarkets sell both the raw Mexican chorizo and the smoked, cured form which is very much like pepperoni in texture.</content>
      <published_at>Mon Feb 04 07:36:14 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3361815</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>11983</id>
        <name>Val</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>5</level>
      <id>3363558</id>
      <content>Well, I should clarify that: in my native lands (Texas and New Mexico), I only ever saw Mexican chorizo, which was always sold raw.  Where I live now (Boston, a city with a large Portuguese and Brazilian population but a relatively small Mexican population), Portuguese linguica and chourico, both of which are cured and smoked, are available at any supermarket, while Mexican chorizo is far, far more difficult to come by.  I'm sure someone somewhere has it, but I've never made a point of tracking it down, largely because it turns out I prefer linguica and chourico!</content>
      <published_at>Mon Feb 04 10:10:17 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3363003</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>17548</id>
        <name>BarmyFotheringayPhipps</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>6</level>
      <id>3363951</id>
      <content>You can buy killer Spanish Chorizo from the Boston Sauseage Co.  (The Smokehouse) @ Savenor's or in Norwell.</content>
      <published_at>Mon Feb 04 11:47:06 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3363558</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>43893</id>
        <name>C. Hamster</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>7</level>
      <id>3364073</id>
      <content>Yes, but what I'm saying is that Spanish chorizo and Mexican chorizo aren't the same thing!</content>
      <published_at>Mon Feb 04 12:16:43 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3363951</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>17548</id>
        <name>BarmyFotheringayPhipps</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>8</level>
      <id>3364468</id>
      <content>Yes, I know that.  I was only mentioning that if you are looking for the former, the Smokehouse product is superior.

I recall seeing the latter at Hi Lo but that was maybe 10 years ago.</content>
      <published_at>Mon Feb 04 13:57:35 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3364073</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>43893</id>
        <name>C. Hamster</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>3362388</id>
      <content>Have you tried buying Mexican chorizo at meat counters of Mexican markets? It is almost always made in-house and unlike the large brands rarely contains things like salivery glands. </content>
      <published_at>Sun Feb 03 20:27:57 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3359289</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10264</id>
        <name>rworange</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>3381754</id>
      <content>Elaine,I agree with you.One thing I would like to add is that linguica is more coarse as posters here have said.I have a question for you.I am trying to duplicate the red marinade sauce that is used for marinated pork bits.I know you can use the butt or the shoulder of the pig.I use to buy the blade meat from Furtado's in Fall River but I am no longer in business.I know a lot of the old school cooks use this all the time and many restaurants in Eastern Mass.have this on the menu.Any help you could give me would be appreciated.  Robert</content>
      <published_at>Sat Feb 09 20:47:16 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3359173</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>164607</id>
        <name>raf945</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>3360889</id>
      <content>It is my understanding that what we identify as Chorizo [Spain] originated in the province of Extramadura. This state - whose many sons went off to become conquerers of the New World had a pretty big reputation for the consumption of pork. It is interesting to note that it straddles the southeastern border with Portugual so there may be a connection.

In my experience, the linguica I have had has been much more coarser ground then chorizo and it neccisitates cooking. There are also chorizo variants depending on its cure, ingredients, casing, and region of origin.  </content>
      <published_at>Sun Feb 03 08:56:52 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3358566</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>14086</id>
        <name>kare_raisu</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>3361052</id>
      <content>A brand that places like La Tienda and Spanish Table carry is Palacios.  I've found it a couple of 'high end' groceries in the Seattle area.  It's fully cured, quite dry and shelf stable, rather like a small diameter paprika flavored dry salami.

'The New Spanish Table' recommends Goya as a readily available substitute for cooked, semi-cured salami in its recipes.

paulj
</content>
      <published_at>Sun Feb 03 10:01:22 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3360889</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>12139</id>
        <name>paulj</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>3361799</id>
      <content>I think palacios is the best I have had. I find the Framani is good just for eating. 

On a side note, at a Paella event cooked by Chef Maggie Pond of Bar Cesar in Berkeley &amp; Oakland I had a chance to interview her. One of my questions was what is her favorite brand....palacios.

Have you had choristilla -  believe its lamb casing enclosed. 

Goya seems harder to track down than Palacios. I have only seen it a Puerto Rican Market in the Northbay. 

Culinaria Spain is a great book to pick up if you're interested in Spanish cooking culture. I picked up one at Borders for only 10 dollars.</content>
      <published_at>Sun Feb 03 14:55:52 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3361052</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>14086</id>
        <name>kare_raisu</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>3361976</id>
      <content>I regularly check Half Price Books for interesting books like this Culinaria and other European cookbooks at clearance prices.  They even hard bound copies of The New Spanish Table at $12.  I'm starting build a collection of Hermes House (HH) picture cookbooks.
paulj
 </content>
      <published_at>Sun Feb 03 16:30:48 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3361799</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>12139</id>
        <name>paulj</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>3361070</id>
      <content>There are many different variations of chouri&#231;o here in Portugal. Lingui&#231;a is what brazilians call chouri&#231;o(a). Spanish chorizo is usually a bit spicier and thinner. Chouri&#231;as in Portugal are made with lots of wine and garlic whereas chorizo has more paprika.</content>
      <published_at>Sun Feb 03 10:08:13 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3358566</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>155180</id>
        <name>magool27</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>3363218</id>
      <content>Chorizo will be very different depending on what country it's representing as well. The mexican stuff tends to be heavily spiced and crumbly inside. Go South a bit, say to Colombia, and the chorizo has a more solid, hammy flavor with large chunks of pork fat interspersed. I like it both ways, but I'd say Mexican chorizo is better as a part of a dish while the South American variety can stand better on it's own, either grilled or pan fried. </content>
      <published_at>Mon Feb 04 08:39:24 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3361070</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>160165</id>
        <name>johnmlinn</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>3363726</id>
      <content>I live in Rhode Island with a large Portuguese influnce.  Most of the Linguica and Chourico consumed here is made by Portuguese companies in Fall River, Mass.  Linguica is sold mainly as links or patties in these parts and served at barbeques on hot dog buns and hamburger buns.  Linguicia tends to be more firm and dry in texture compared to Chourico.

http://www.gasparssausage.com/ourproducts.html



  </content>
      <published_at>Mon Feb 04 10:55:34 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3363218</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>24648</id>
        <name>Sean</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>4699904</id>
      <content>In RI you can get linguica or chorico on pizza. Nice alternative to sausage and pepperoni.</content>
      <published_at>Wed May 20 06:45:41 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>3363726</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>12829</id>
        <name>Bob W</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>3364437</id>
      <content>I can't speak on spanish chorizo but I know that the primary difference between linguica and chorico is that chorico has a coarser grind than linguica. Both linguica and chorico can be mild or spicy.</content>
      <published_at>Mon Feb 04 13:51:55 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3358566</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>20795</id>
        <name>joth68</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>3368400</id>
      <content>I've not had the pleasure of trying Spanish chorizo, but the California/Portuguese linguica I've had (handmade) has been rather chunky, not ground. Always with red wine included.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Feb 05 16:52:25 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3364437</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>11234</id>
        <name>toodie jane</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4080038</id>
      <content>My grandmother is Portuguese so I've grown up on linguica. We've always had two varieties: Hot and Sweet. 

Now, if I'm not mistaken, the HOT linguica was actually chorizo and the SWEET was linguica. </content>
      <published_at>Fri Oct 03 13:45:49 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3358566</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>218457</id>
        <name>Jonny509</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4699413</id>
      <content>I am an Azorean Portuguese American and what I know about linguica vs chourico is based on a very old portuguese cookbook from my aunt's collection in portugal.  Linguica is marinated with more red wine and less vinegar and smoked longer than portuguese chourico.  Linguica was originally made with the small intestine and the chourico used the large so therefore linguica is thinner than chourico.  There is hot chourico and mild chourico.  As is usually the case with most recipes they vary from region to region and have an official DOC like french wine.  I have to say, I've never heard of Star Anise in Linguica.  My favorite linguica and chourico is Michael's brand available at portuguesefood.com but they also have a homemade version that I've not tried but looks good.</content>
      <published_at>Tue May 19 22:23:25 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>3358566</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>294315</id>
        <name>portufood</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4699618</id>
      <content>Linguica and Spanish chorizo are superficially similar in appearance - chorizo usually being a bit harder - but completely different in flavor.  The dominant, and distinctive, flavor in chorizo is smoked paprika (pimenton) which is not used (or at least not evident) in linquica.  Chourico (pronounced shor-EES) is typically larger in diameter than linguica, and in my experience is made up into shorter links, but otherwise is quite similar in overall flavor, but perhaps a bit more garlicky and robust overall.</content>
      <published_at>Wed May 20 04:13:29 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>3358566</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10207</id>
        <name>FlyFish</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4700181</id>
      <content>I don't know much about linguica aside from the stuff you find in Portuguese communities in New England, but I have eaten chorizo in many parts of Spain. Chorizo doesn't refer to a single type or even a single style of sausage; there simply isn't any such thing as "Spanish Chorizo". Even within each region of Spain, there are quite different sausages all referred to as chorizo, or chourico, or chourizo, or xorico. Chourico is from Galicia, and the sausages referred to by that spelling are usually very similar to the linguica that is common in New England. Most chorizo types do rely more on paprika than most linguica, but this is far from universally true. The only real trends I think I noticed was that the dryer, hotter areas of Spain used more smoked paprika and produced a harder, spicier chorizo, the coastal areas produced a softer chorizo that was less spiced and used sweet paprika, and the wooded, mountainous areas produced both soft and hard chorizo that was often smoked.</content>
      <published_at>Wed May 20 08:00:10 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>3358566</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>36408</id>
        <name>danieljdwyer</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>4701003</id>
      <content>Yes, I'm aware that the term "chorizo" is equivalent to saying "sausage."  I was referring to the chorizo that is commonly available here in New England (usually Palacios brand), or the chorizo that is typically served in Spanish restos on the East Coast, or that I've had in Puerto Rico, all of which is/was the harder sausage with strong pimenton flavor.</content>
      <published_at>Wed May 20 11:45:49 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4700181</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10207</id>
        <name>FlyFish</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>4717328</id>
      <content>As others have noted there are many variations on linguica and chorizo, and some are ground coarse and some are ground fine.  For me, the main difference is Spanish chorizo is a dry cured sausage and linguica is either cooked or hot smoked.  There also are Mexican and other versions of chorizo that are not cured or smoked, but are sold uncooked.  </content>
      <published_at>Tue May 26 20:03:48 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>3358566</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>53530</id>
        <name>Zeldog</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>4717528</id>
      <content>In the US (California?) linguica seems to be distinguished from chorizo, especially the Mexican style, by a mild vinegary character.
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      <published_at>Tue May 26 21:24:20 -0700 2009</published_at>
      <parent_id>4717328</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>12139</id>
        <name>paulj</name>
      </user>
    </post>
  </posts>
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