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I've done DiFara's but who is #2

I hit DiFara's the last three visits to NY and enjoyed the sights and slices, but I want to branch out this trip--Please tell me where to go and why

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  1. You say, " NY" . You are in the Outer Boroughs node of CH. Are you limiting to Brooklyn? In Brooklyn, Grimaldi's has its fans and opponents. For me, I'd go to Franny's and Lucali's...2 -very- different places both with great pizza. Pepe's gets props here but I've never been.

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    1. re: Larry Brooks

      I'll second Lucali's. Not as good as DiFara, but pretty damn good.

      1. re: Larry Brooks

        By Lucali's, do you mean the place at 575 Henry Street in Carroll Gardens? And do they serve by the slice?

        And where's Franny's?

        575 Henry St, Brooklyn, NY 11231

        1. re: TomChowhound


          295 Flatbush Ave, Brooklyn, NY 11217

      2. I printed a list a few months ago and the Top 10 were top to bottom: DiFara, Franny's, Grimaldi, John's Bleecker St, Lombardi's, Nick's Forest Hills, Patsy's 1st Ave, Pizza Suprema on 8th Ave, Totonno's & Una Pizza Napoletana. Of course, this is one person's opinion. I won't travel for Pizza and live close to Nick's which is just fine at #5. They also serve a very good salad, cannolli & espresso with complimentary Sambuca.

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        1. re: Mike V

          Another vote for Lucali's. Great pizza and, in my opinion, a much more pleasant atmosphere than what you'll find at Grimaldi's (which tends to be overrun with tourists).

          1. re: Mike V

            Don't forget Joe's on Carmine. Best place to get slices.

            1. re: ginsbera

              Disagree. Tastes like cheese on a piece of toast.

              Try Alfie's in Queens. As good a slice (not pie) as I've ever had.

              1. re: NAtiveNewYorker

                Ouch, thats harsh. That's what I think rays tastes like and John's (only the times square one).

                Joe's crust is so thin, how can you compare that to toast?

            2. re: Mike V

              Mike V-

              You have to try Lucali's...trust me!

              1. re: Mike V

                If you can manage to travel. Louie and Ernies at Waterbury and Crosby in the Bronx deserves to be on the list. ahead of some.

              2. My vote for #2 in O.B.'s is Totonno's, great thin crust coal oven pizza. The place is really unique with an old time feel. I can't imagine the place looked much different when it opened. Sure the service is a bit surley, but the pizza is top notch. Throw in a few hours at the Aquarium and a hot dog and fries from Nathan's and you will have a great New York day.


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                1. re: stuartlafonda

                  I love totonno's too, however I have had bad pies there. One time I took my wife's brother from Florida there with his son and it was really bad. Burnt and relatively tasteless. The funny thing was that the day before it was great. Ever since I have stayed away, but they can make a fantastic pizza. However still, its no DiFara's!

                  1. re: NYJewboy

                    I know Totonnos has its fans, but I have to score one for the very disappointed. I found the pizza lacking in flavor compared to others like DiFara, Lucali, Johns, Grimaldis. Sorry, because the spot is old school and fun.

                    1. re: brooklyn1966

                      We thought it could be the best pizza we ever had. And no surliness for us, we had a great experience at Totonno's and look forward to going back next summer.

                2. Having been to almost every other place mentioned above I'd say it's Lucali hands-down.

                  I've been to Lucali about 10 times. It's ALWAYS been between an A- and an A+. And that's for the food alone. The charm, atmosphere, staff and BYO policy make it even better, never, ever disappoint place.

                  1. Lucali's or Totonno's for Brooklyn. Lucali's is WAY more consistent though.

                    1. Staten Island is always sorely neglected in these Outer Borough pizza discussions. My goto is Nunzio's but you could bounce a spalding ball (credit to MP) from anywhere in S.I. and hit three or four above average to great pizza places.

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                      1. re: Butter Buddha

                        In Staten Island I'd have to say Denino's is very good. When Goodfella's -Hylan Blvd is "on" they also make a variety of tasty pies. I agree with you. The 'average' SI pie is usually several cuts above many Brooklyn places.

                        1. re: Tay

                          lucali's is easily #2. but you should try totonno's as well.

                        1. re: Geo8rge

                          Good point. Full Moon pizza serves an old fashioned New York street slice, the type that originally gave the city it's reputation as the pizza capital of the United States.

                          Full Moon Pizza
                          600 E 187 St at Arthur Ave, Bronx

                          Map here -

                          1. re: Bob Martinez

                            i have eaten full moon scores of times..its good, but not in the league of " great" pizza

                            1. re: intrepid

                              Well, it's not in the category of the nouveau thin crust style. A lot of people love that but I'm not convinced that it sits atop the pizza pyramid based on some type of evolutionary superiority. Thin crust is just one type of pizza. Full Moon is a fine example of a classic style that's been around for years. I like them both.

                              1. re: Bob Martinez

                                You phrased that so eloquently. I think what you said is dead on. (Notice: Not quite so well phrased)
                                I agree. There are different styles/interpretations. The classic style with a thicker crust is indeed the slice that started it all.

                                1. re: Bob Martinez

                                  Exactly what I like San Marco's for.

                                  1. re: JFores

                                    I actually didn't think you ate any pizza other than DiFara's.. Seriously

                                    1. re: Tay

                                      I eat Di Fara's, San Marco's, a place in Queens, a place in SI, Lucali's (but not really enough to repeatedly go back.) I used to like Patsy's and Totonno's but they're getting kind of eh.... especially Patsy's. L&B too if it's after midnight or summer time (spumoni.)

                                      1. re: JFores

                                        what place in queens? do tell. is it nicks?

                              2. re: Bob Martinez

                                Full Moon is always a good choice for a solid version of what used to be far more common in NYC and is a definite option if you're in the nabe and want a slice, but I don't think it's worth a detour.

                                OTOH, Roberto's new place, Trattoria 089 on Arthur, offers Salerno-style pizza from a wood-burning brick oven, made with top notch ingredients. It's thin with a good char, but properly foldable for easy eating. Definitely recommended as a high-end contender. No slices, though.

                            2. GRIMALDI'S, GRIMALDI'S & MORE GRIMALDI'S!!

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                                1. re: CHEFARTIST

                                  I sure wish Grimaldi's would pay more attention and make sure the pies are cooked through, use better cheese, and get more flavorful basil. Then maybe they would be worth eating. I always knock them on CH, but with a little effort they could once again return to become a shadow of what they were when Patsy ran the place. The last couple of pies I had from them were a little better, probably because they were not crowded and were paying more attention.

                                  1. I love Totonno's. I've had only excellent pizza there, and have never had a problem with the service.

                                    I'm really not sure what everyone sees in Grimaldi's. I've been there half a dozen times over the years and find the pizza average.

                                    Lucali's is quite good.

                                    I say rent a car and drive up to Pepe's in New Haven.

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                                    1. re: MRich

                                      I dunno, I've had Pepe's and Sally's. The great NY pizzerias beat them in my book. Modern Apizza is very good, though, and better than Pepe's/Sally's.

                                      1. re: shivohum

                                        You are absolutely correct, shivohum. Modern Apizza is New Haven's best and has been for years. I am a native of Wooster Street so I grew up eating Sally's and Pepe's. They both took a slide about 25-30 years ago when they were both taken over by a new generation. I now live in Bensonhurst and with all the pizzerias, still can't find a great sausage pizza like Modern's.

                                        1. re: Brklynbobby

                                          I don't know if it will hold up to a 30 yr memory but I like the pizza at Casa Bella on 26th Ave and Cropsey Ave. I usually order the brick oven margarita pie and find it to be better than most pizza to be found in B'hurst. As the neighborhood dempgraphic changes, good pizza will be harder to find. :-{.

                                      2. re: MRich

                                        I agree fully with MRich except for the New Haven part & that's only because I havent been. Lucali's & Totonno's are quite good. Grimaldi's is not. I'd also recommend trying Fornino's in Williamsburg... I know it's not universally applauded here on CH (or even spoken about) but he's (Michael Ayoub, original owner of Cucina) one of the only other places to use very fresh ingredients and a good oven. Worth a try.

                                        1. re: Steve R

                                          Still think Korner Pizza (Church Ave at E 3rd St) makes a pretty good slice..lived a block away in the 1970s and 1980s and never remember a bad one!

                                        2. re: MRich

                                          I agree with MRich about Grimaldi's. It's pretty good, but if I'm going to wait for my pie, I'd rather go to Lucali or Di Fara's. I went to Totonno's once and I really enjoyed it. I vote for Lucali's for #2.

                                          If you do seek out New Haven pizza, I'd recommend Modern. I grew up on Sally's, my family has been going there since it opened, and I will always side with Sally's in any Sally's/Pepe's throw down, but Modern of the past few years has never failed to satisfy. The Big Three in New Haven are all within about a mile of the Metro North Station(s) not too bad a walk for a New Yorker, though you'll want to check with others to see what the sidewalk situation is like, you have some pretty major intersections near the train station and that part of New Haven isn't the most pedestrian friendly. If you don't want to walk, it's an easy taxi ride.

                                          1. re: brooklynbrownie

                                            It warms my heart to think there are other people out there that would actually consider a train ride to New Haven to get pizza.

                                            1. re: MRich

                                              Isn't that why they created Metro North? ;)

                                              This summer I'm leading a pizza pilgrimage for some of my New York friends that have never tried New Haven pizza. Can't wait for Pizza Crawl '08!

                                            2. re: brooklynbrownie

                                              For trips to New Haven via MetroNorth consider a folding bike like Dahon.

                                          2. This is easy, Lucalis cause its like Mark is in his own pizza nirvana that only Dominic can rival, then of course Totonnos for that sauce, and lastly you gotta put down L and B spumoni gardens for there square.

                                            1. The Patsy's in East Harlem is great if you get it at the right time. I have gone there and it is horribly undercooked and just not great, but at the right time the pizza is top notch. The best bet is on a Friday or Saturday night when it's busy and the oven is hot and they are cranking out pies.

                                              1. Don't go to John's on Bleecker. It's nothing special. If you want that style pizza you are better off at Lombardi's (which is, bonus, right across from Rice to Riches! love that place) or Grimaldi's.

                                                1. I gotta go with Lucali. Honorable mentions go to Caeserta Vecchia, Sal's on Court, and Grimaldi's.

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                                                  1. re: kicker75

                                                    while house hunting yesterday in the difara's area, i wstopped by but decided the wait was too long. we were in the car and figured we could just grab a pie from totonno's...while i am stopping short of dissing totono's, i won't make that mistake ever again. i'll wait, in line, at difara's.

                                                    hail dom!

                                                  2. New Park Pizza on Cross Bay Blvd. for great neighborhood pizza.

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                                                    1. re: shayne

                                                      Has anyone tried Pugsley's by Fordham University? I never tried others. Is Full Moon better?

                                                    2. L & B Spumoni Gardens in Bensonhurst hasn't gotten the attention it deserves, IMHO. Delicious old-fashioned round pizzas from the restaurant (although the squares from the takeout window are clearly very popular). Slightly-sweet, flavorful sauce and decent sausage (so hard to find good sausage in NYC).

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                                                      1. re: racer x

                                                        In all my years of going to L&B it never dawned upon me to order anything else but their squares.

                                                        1. re: MShapiro

                                                          I've never understood the appeal of L&B's pizza. Their sauce is essentially poorly seasoned, overly salty tomato paste. The squares are thick and doughy. They use poor quality cheese as evidenced by the yellow color and rubbery consistancy. It's like the 'Randazzo's of pizza' . I just don't understand how they have managed to stay open with such poorly prepared pizza.. As for their food...Fuggeddaboudit!

                                                          1. re: Tay

                                                            Not sure when you last had one of their rounds, but the one I had a few nights ago was very good. I haven't had their squares, which don't *look* all that appealing to me personally.

                                                            1. re: Tay

                                                              I disagree about L&B being poorly prepared. They have good turnover, huge banks of ovens, double or triple that of most pizzerias so volume is never a problem and ample staff to make and take orders unlike some places. When we go we make sure to get a pie fresh out of the oven - that's key. Never had anything with the rubbery consistency you mentioned. We think the seasoning and sauce is just right, maybe a bit sweet but not overly so.

                                                              How do they stay in business all these years? They have some sort of Police Transit Authority Pct across the street (And they have the girth to prove it), its near schools, the subway and The Marlboro Houses – not a bad combo.

                                                              Funny I feel that their round pies are unappealing, but next time I’m there and they have one fresh out of the oven, again that’s key, I’ll give it a shot.

                                                              1. re: MShapiro

                                                                i'm with tay regarding l&b. i had better pizza from my 2nd grade school cafeteria. but while in the area, i will stop in for some spumoni. they are slightly known for it and all...

                                                                1. re: TBird

                                                                  Your 2nd grade school cafeteria should be on the list. It must have been in a serious Italian nabe. Can I make reservations? The square at L&B is not like any other pizza in town, the squares are great, did you have the square?

                                                                  1. re: Paulomet

                                                                    "The square at L&B is not like any other pizza in town, the squares are great,"

                                                                    TBird's posting is a year old but the pizza hasn't changed. IMO L&B's pizza, esp the square, while ok, is just not that good. Certainly not even close to great. They survive on old past reputation and location, location, location.
                                                                    Better brick oven Margarita pie can be foumd as close as.Casa Bella on Cropsey and 26th Ave.

                                                                    1. re: Tay

                                                                      Tay, if you like the square ( or Sicilian) pizza, try Italia on King's Highway and West 6th Street. Light, crispy, savory/sweet and a whole lot cheaper than L&B. The last time I went to L&B, the square was gloopy and bitter. I think they've passed their heyday. However, I adore their spumoni.

                                                                      1. re: Brklynbobby

                                                                        OK then Tay, My kids and I will have to try Casa Bella, I've been promising my kids L&B for good sports results for many years now; The fact that they continue to disappoint makes me now conclude that it's the fact that they may not care for the squares at L&B.
                                                                        I will try Italia too.

                                                                        1. re: Paulomet

                                                                          I can only vouch for the Brick oven Margarita style pizza. Crispy, light crust, tasty slightly sweet sauce, creamy fresh mozz. They also make a tasty potato, pepper and egg hero. It's HUGE! Enough for 2 adults to share.

                                                                        2. re: Brklynbobby

                                                                          "Light, crispy, savory/sweet and a whole lot cheaper than L&B."
                                                                          Sounds great. (L&B's slices are so doughy and heavy.)
                                                                          Next time I'm in that 'nabe' I will absolutely try Italia.
                                                                          Thanks for the suggestion. :-)

                                                                          1. re: Tay

                                                                            Bklynbobby, et al.... I finally took a group of people to Italia, I figured that with the posts here it had to be good. All of the group were big fans of L&B and were curious about how any L&B type slice (the square) could be better than L&B. SHAME ON YOU. The group included children! Have you ever seen the look of sadness and disappointment on the faces of 10 year old girls? "Who told you this place was better?" " Why did you take us here? " This slice isn't as good as Nino's even." The parents will never listen to me again. Italia? Really?
                                                                            If you don't like L&B, you just can't take something for what it is. L&B is not supposed to be like other Sicilian squares. That seems to be it's point. It is a delicious unique pie. Maybe it can't be put on a list with Di Fara, Locali or any of the other "greats", but please don't compare a standard corner Pizzaria to it.

                                                                            1. re: Paulomet

                                                                              " L&B is not supposed to be like other Sicilian squares. That seems to be it's point. It is a delicious unique pie"
                                                                              While I have not yet tried Italia's pizza, I can confirm (at least for me) that L&B's pizza is not what I would EVER describe as "a delicious unique pie"
                                                                              That having been said, if your group are fans of a heavy, doughy, slice slathered in tomato paste mixed with grated cheese, then of course they are not going to be happy with another style of pizza and that's ok b/c while
                                                                              L&B's pizza is certainly not for everyone, if it 'floats your boat', that's fine.

                                                                              As for the opinions of kids and food (other than chicken fingers/fr fries.)
                                                                              Well....That's a posting for another day . :-)

                                                                              1. re: Paulomet

                                                                                Well, Paulomet, you are the very first person to tell me you didn't like Italia. If you like that glop they serve at L&B then please continue on with it. The group included children!!! So what!!! There is nothing on Italia's pie that is offensive to children. I agree with you that L&B's pie is unique. Uniquely a waste of money. If you like tomato paste slathered on paste-like dough, more power to you.

                                                                                1. re: Brklynbobby

                                                                                  I wasn't going to say anything. But since the subject is open, I tried Italia. I cannot say it was awful, but I cannot say it was good. Certainly it was not great or worth traveling to. It was profoundly ordinary. Every aspect was just what you would expect from a small local place in the middle of Brooklyn. Not outstanding in any way. I will not say 'they need to change this or that', they don't. It is what it is. If I were Brklynbobby and I got it delivered at night when I was hungry that would be fine. But a destination? NO!

                                                                                  1. re: NYJewboy

                                                                                    Everyone I know adores Italia and it was recommended to me a couple of years ago by some neighbors who have lived in the neighborhood for 40 years. Did you order the square? That's the only one I buy.

                                                                                2. re: Paulomet

                                                                                  haha, what a great post, Paulomet! see, that's what you get for listening to pizza poetry on a chowhound thread. Everyone's hometown has a special place in their heart, but other people's aren't much to care about.

                                                                                  Tay, I bet you could take down any pizzeria including di fara with language like that. I like L&B. It is heavy and doughy with sweet tomato sauce sprinkled with delectable morsels of cheese. Great any night of the week. Great every night of the week.
                                                                                  See how I did that?

                                                                                  btw, kids can be a great gauge for real food. They don't get lost in backstories and food explorer competition. They just eat and smile or cry. Can't get more base than that.

                                                                                  1. re: Jeffsayyes

                                                                                    "Tay, I bet you could take down any pizzeria including di fara with language like that. I like L&B. It is heavy and doughy with sweet tomato sauce sprinkled with delectable morsels of cheese. Great any night of the week. Great every night of the week.
                                                                                    See how I did that?"

                                                                                    Yup...You did that by creating copy for a commercial...I mean, seriously,
                                                                                    'Sweet tomato sauce sprinkled with delectable morsels of cheese'???
                                                                                    Somewhere there's a Papa John's Jr marketing position with your name on the cubicle.:-).
                                                                                    Kids are not a great gauge for ANY type of food. They eat/refuse to eat food based soley on some sort of secret, phase based formula. This month's fav food is tomorrow's 'eiuwwwww! ' food.
                                                                                    As for 'taking down' L&B, It's been around for years and will continue to exist as long as there are Bada Bing Boys in Bensonhurst/Bath Beach.

                                                                                    1. re: Tay

                                                                                      kids are pretty dumb, but they are also kinda smart.

                                                                                      1. re: Jeffsayyes

                                                                                        "kids are pretty dumb, but they are also kinda smart"

                                                                                        I think kids are, for the most part, very clever...
                                                                                        That having been said they still are not your basic 'go to' group when it comes to food choices/quality.
                                                                                        Think about it: Are you really comfortable taking food choice advice from a group that favors boxed orange mac & cheese and puts ketchup on almost everything?

                                                                                        1. re: Tay

                                                                                          I'll weigh in since we seem to be talking about my kids here. My kids have been to Di Fara several times, Totono's regularly, Grimaldi's, Lombardi's, Patsy's, Nick's, Amore, Demino's, and have loved them all, Di Fara being my daughter's favorite. They also love L&B. That being said, they have on one or two occasions been subjected to Elio's microwavable, which is what my son compared Italia too. On the other hand, Tay is partly right since now my kids only seem to want to eat pizza. I wish I could get them to eat some mac and cheese!

                                                                                          1. re: Paulomet

                                                                                            ' My kids have been to Di Fara several times, Totono's regularly, Grimaldi's, Lombardi's, Patsy's, Nick's, Amore, Demino's, and have loved them all, Di Fara being my daughter's favorite. They also love L&B.'

                                                                                            The fact that they love all these different styles/preparations of pizza (BTW, take a bow) illustrates my point. No way any discerning adult would/could possibly place L&B's 'pizza' anywhere close to the same league as the others.
                                                                                            I actually think L&B's pizza is much more of a kid's pizza than any of the others, ESP DiFara's. Kids hate oily stuff and they really hate charred crust
                                                                                            10 yr old girs tend to love the Jonas Bros, not artisan pizza. Teenage boys will eat anything not moving (or sometimes still moving slowly):-)

                                                                                            1. re: Tay

                                                                                              Tay, my daughter says,"Whatever."

                                                                                              1. re: Paulomet

                                                                                                " my daughter says,"Whatever."

                                                                                                Cool kid... I'm impressed. Something not easily inspired.
                                                                                                Perhaps I'll have to amend my posting to allow for exceptions to the rule.

                                                                            2. re: Tay

                                                                              If L and B square pizza was sold in another pizza shop, the shop would declare bankruptcy. It's about a 2 on a 1-10 scale. The second best slice of pizza is anywhere when you are famished and have a jones for a slice and you woof it down and are just satisfied that you are no longer hungry.

                                                                              I had pizza at Difara yesterday after an 8 month hiatus. It was indeed very good. But when I got home, I had an awful stomach ache. This was due to the massive amount of oil Dom poured on top of the pie in addition to all the grated cheese he also added. It was enough oil to grease the rear axles of a 18 wheeler. I guess I don't have the same g.i. system as a teenager . That was decades ago.

                                                                              1. re: son of a butcher

                                                                                son of a butcher
                                                                                "The second best slice of pizza is anywhere when you are famished and have a jones for a slice and you woof it down and are just satisfied that you are no longer hungry"

                                                                                Very well said.:-)

                                                                                1. re: son of a butcher

                                                                                  I get that stomach ache too, but sometimes it is worth it.

                                                                                  1. re: NYJewboy

                                                                                    i never get the stomach pain while I'm eating the pizza, but when I get home, look out!. His pizza would be just as good with less oil and I believe he should reduce the grated cheese or let customers control the amount by putting it on themselves.

                                                                                2. re: Tay

                                                                                  I never liked the look of l & B's squares, we used to go just for spumoni...but one day I took a bite out of my friends - and I saw the light.

                                                                                  They put the cheese on and THEN they top it with sauce.
                                                                                  I like thin dry-ish slices, and this square is the eact opposite however I found the sauce to be very tasty and the dough/crust to be fresh and flavorful. Extremely pleasing!

                                                                    2. SUPERB

                                                                      VERY GOOD TO EXCELLENT
                                                                      Patsy's in Harlem

                                                                      GOOD to VERY GOOD

                                                                      LIGHTWEIGHT CHAMPION

                                                                      IMO, Pepe's of New Haven would rank in the top tier.

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                                                                      1. re: Mr. Particular

                                                                        Pepe's? After years of wanting to go I finally went a few weeks ago. It's like a totonnos pie (swoon) but with standard pizza cheese, a but more than I like. It was very good, but not destination pizza, less you were driving through New Haven.

                                                                        IMO Joe's of Carmine slices FTW.

                                                                        1. re: 2slices

                                                                          I hate when there's too much cheese. Haven't been to Totonno's in awhile, so glad they're open again, and thanks for reminding me . Now there's your destination pizza, Coney Island not withstanding.

                                                                          1. re: 2slices

                                                                            I was at the Stamford Pepe's last night and at 9 pm the place was half full. Without the usual crush the kitchen seemed to have the time to do their best work. The pizza was perfect. A small clam pie, thin,crisp and a fantastic combination of flavor. Tender clams, oil, mellow garlic and a sprinkle of cheese.The regular pie with mushrooms(my kid loves them) ws likewise, perfect. DiFara is king but the Pepe's joints are not far behind.I enjoy Totonno's on my once a year Coney Island visit, but to me, they don't compare to Pepe's.

                                                                        2. My new favorite is Amore in Flushing. This, of course, is an old favorite for people who live there. NY slice, not a naples slice. It is awesome.

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                                                                          1. re: Jeffsayyes

                                                                            I also like Amore, but they're in Whitestone.

                                                                            1. re: Polecat

                                                                              Sorry Polecat, the address is 30-27 Stratton Street, FLUSHING, New York. They make an excellent slice.


                                                                              1. re: stuartlafonda

                                                                                Did I say Whitestone? I meant Flushing...yeah...Flushing. (Okay, so I owe Jeffsayyes a slice) P.

                                                                                1. re: Polecat


                                                                                  I had the square this week at di fara. more cheesy and some of the crust is great , but I liked the round better. I don't think they use the term Sicilian. Plus, about half the pies came out burnt. It's like playing roulette...

                                                                                  I'm more of a NY slice than a naples guy, what can I say?

                                                                                  1. re: Jeffsayyes

                                                                                    I'm with you, I love the round. I will however grab a square slice if they become available while I wait. To me, born and raised in Queens, Sicilian is what we called the square slice. When you guys meet at Amore tell Manny Stu sent you. The big guy is a classic and he runs a great slice joint.

                                                                          2. It would be helpful if everyone would state whether they are discussing slices or whole pies.

                                                                            1. Does anyone remember Lento's?

                                                                              I have tried all of the places that have been mentioned, but still to this day nothing has ever come close to a Lento's pie with sausage!! (it HAD to be a SAUSAGE pie)

                                                                              I still dream of the perfection of it. Nothing will ever be able to match it....
                                                                              I will miss Lento's forever.

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                                                                              1. re: NellyNel

                                                                                "I will miss Lento's forever"

                                                                                I agree. I loved Lento's.
                                                                                The staten Island location is not at all like the Bay Ridge original.

                                                                                1. re: Tay

                                                                                  I have never been to the SI location, but I tried the Park slope (now closed) one - it wasn't even close to the original.
                                                                                  It was something about the ovens....something about the atmosphere.......
                                                                                  that cracker thin crust...that spicy crumbled sausage........ughhhh it could never be duplicated......
                                                                                  :( :(

                                                                                  1. re: NellyNel

                                                                                    "It was something about the ovens....something about the atmosphere.......
                                                                                    that cracker thin crust...that spicy crumbled sausage........ughhhh it could never be duplicated"
                                                                                    To paraphrase my esteemed fellow 'hound, NYJ:
                                                                                    Somewhere, someone is making what we seek. It's up to us to find it..

                                                                                    1. re: Tay

                                                                                      Hey Tay -
                                                                                      I just read this review of Pizzeria Veloce -http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/630856
                                                                                      Could this be what we have been searching for???
                                                                                      The description of "Platonic chunks of ground fennel sausage and garlic pizza while fitting a round pie into a square pan reminiscent of Adrienne's pizza bar but better. "
                                                                                      Sounds pretty promising - I gotta try it!!

                                                                                      1. re: NellyNel

                                                                                        Somehow I don't find the concept of "Platonic chunks" appealing.

                                                                                        1. re: Bob Martinez


                                                                                          I assume the OP means that bits of sausage are scattered about atop the pie!

                                                                                          1. re: Bob Martinez

                                                                                            Maybe there is another really obscure def. for "Platonic". EG::'In the style of Plato' Lol!

                                                                                            1. re: Tay

                                                                                              LMAO!! Good one!

                                                                                              Here is a link to Pizzeria Veloce's menu...sounds so good right now!http://www.velocepizzeria.com/pdfs/ve...

                                                                                            2. re: Bob Martinez

                                                                                              A Platonic chunk is only good conceptually.

                                                                                              1. re: NYJewboy

                                                                                                Only if it's accompanied by the words "Chocolate" or "Chili" :-)

                                                                                        1. re: NellyNel

                                                                                          Lentos still lives - In the body of Canteena.
                                                                                          is this what you are looking for? I never went to Lentos but I did go here. it was.... remarkable.

                                                                                          1. re: Jeffsayyes

                                                                                            I can't open that link from my desk...what is it? where is it?


                                                                                            1. re: NellyNel

                                                                                              A pie from Lentos via Canteena - taken about a month ago.

                                                                                              If anyone has had a pie before and after the takeover, I beg a comparison.

                                                                                    2. I like Vezzo on Lexington at 31st Street. Posto on 2nd Ave at 19th Street and Spunto (spelling?) in Tribeca are owned by the same people and very good as well.

                                                                                      Very thin crust. Nice sauce. Quality ingrediants. Great restaurants.

                                                                                      I don't hear it mentioned much here.

                                                                                      1. For my money, I don't even think DiFara's is the best in NYC. I'd go to John's on Bleeker. DiFara's was very good, but the 2 + hour wait and the price seriously detracted from the pizza for me. I enjoyed watching Dom prepare the pie and trim the fresh basil, etc. But, 2 hours for pizza isn't worth it for me. On top of that, I seriously enjoy my pies at John's better. Di Faras is very good; I'm just not of the school that bows down to Dom as a god.

                                                                                        For a similar pie to DiFara's, I'll add another vote for Lucali. It's not as good, but it's not that far off.

                                                                                        1. Here is a vote for Amorina in Prospect Heights. They serve personal pizzas more in the style of what you would find in Italy (specifically Rome): thin crust with very interesting topping combos.

                                                                                          624 Vanderbilt Ave, Brooklyn, NY 11238

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                                                                                          1. re: janie

                                                                                            I used the bathroom at Difara's once, and while it was really nice of them to let me do so, it was scary dirty. Is Full Moon the one on 180th or so by Fordham? I bought a pie to take home to the other end of Long Island and, even reheated hours later, was better than most. Didn't think to get toppings, will have to try next time. Very pleasant counter people too.

                                                                                            1. re: coll

                                                                                              hi coll,..it's on 187th and arthur ave intersection, on the corner, where you can see all the crazy action of 187th st with windows going all the way around--they recently renovated, so it's much better now...my other post got deleted, because of my doh comment--anyway--their regular pizza just plain is fantastic, but yes, of course their toppings are great too..I tend to like their toppings pizza as individual slices as they are very rich--their eggplant slice is great--but, to me when a plain regular pie just sings because of the crust and the sauce and cheese, and everything perfect--it's wonderful...go with a couple people so you can order a whole pie--and get an artichoke slice as it comes out of the oven--the garlic and spinach and cornmeal crust combine in flavor, and then it's topped with long stemmed artichoke hearts--I was there last sat, and took some family there, they were blown away--and yes, the owner is very nice there...

                                                                                              1. re: janie

                                                                                                Those long stemmed artichokes are calling me...I think I got a slice while I waited for the pie, so now I have a plan. Thanks for the info!

                                                                                                1. re: janie

                                                                                                  I really like Blue Moon too. A great old NY style street slice.

                                                                                                      1. re: Bob Martinez

                                                                                                        I was meeting my mother, who had come from upstate, for a fun day in the Bronx (our hometown area). We somehow got briefly separated. Luckily cell phones had just come out, and we both had one, so I call her and said "I'm in front of Full Moon Pizza, where are you". And she said, you can't be, because I'm in front of Full Moon Pizza, how can there be two of them in one neighborhood? Luckily we figured out that it was on both streets, spanning the corner. If not for the phones, we would have given up and each went our own ways. However! I didn't even try Full Moon pizza til next time I was in on my own. (Think she wanted to go to Pasquales or Marios) What a shame.

                                                                                                        1. re: coll

                                                                                                          that's very funny! they also have a sandwich area, too now..and also salads you can get how you want...but, I can't resist the pizza..also, the garlic rolls are very good too...the only thing to be aware of, is sometimes when they get crazy busy, they forget your slice in the oven, and that type of cornmeal crust is nowhere near its peak when it's overheated..so, stand over by the counter if you're not getting a whole pie, if it's busy.....

                                                                                            2. Yes, Difara is number one.
                                                                                              Number two is Salvatore of Soho in Staten Island
                                                                                              Number three is Franny´s

                                                                                              Salvatore of Soho
                                                                                              1880 Hylan Blvd, Staten Island, NY 10305