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  <id>484272</id>
  <title>AZ: Diners, Drive-Ins, and Dives</title>
  <published_at>Tue Jan 29 10:45:53 -0800 2008</published_at>
  <post_count>22</post_count>
  <board>
    <id>6</id>
    <name>Southwest</name>
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      <post>
        <level>0</level>
        <id>3344672</id>
        <content>Now I am probably no where near guy's biggest fan. Infact, I am probably closer to the other end his fan base. However, I love the places he goes. Those are the kind of places I love. Sure, the upscale places are nice, but there is more to life than steaks and gourmet. What are some of your favorite places to eat like a fat kid for cheap in the state, and what do you order? Who needs the food network?

As the resident chunk, I'll start with some of my favorites:

PHOENIX
- Mrs. White's Golden Rule - BBQ Ribs and Neck bone, mixed greens, and yams with Sweet Tea(Saturday Special), or order from what is written on the walls.

- Lo-Lo's Chicken and Waffles - Chicken and Waffles!!! Catfish is good. RED KOOL-AID!

- Knock Kneed Lobster - Icelandic Cod Fish and Chips. Fried Okra. Fried anything really.

- Honey Bears - Tennessee BBQ Pulled Pork. Nothing fancy at all. Slow cooked meats that you 'don't need no teeth to eat'. The Hot Link sandwich is good too. Nice kick to it.

- Lenny's Burger Shop - Best 50's style burger in town. Fresh cut fries. Good shakes.

- Carolina's - Good, down to earth mexican food, and cheap!

- Fry Bread House - Navajo tacos. do they do anything else?

- Hamburger Works - Good DIY burgers.

- Sing High Chop Suey House - The name says it all!

- Texaz Grill - Chicken Fried Steak or Chicken Fried Chicken. Pecan Pie.

TUCSON
- El Guero Canelo - SONORAN HOT DOGS!!!


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        <published_at>Tue Jan 29 10:45:53 -0800 2008</published_at>
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        <user>
          <id>129910</id>
          <name>ValleyFever</name>
        </user>
      </post>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>3346530</id>
      <content>There was a good long thread on local dives a few months ago -- pero lo siento, I'm too huev -- uh, lazy to pull it up right now ...</content>
      <published_at>Tue Jan 29 18:28:14 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3344672</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>85615</id>
        <name>misohungrychewlow</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>3346812</id>
      <content>I found the old thread you are talking about from May. I don't think I was yet on here.

From that thread, some others that I love:

- Chicago Hamburger Company

- Harvey's Wineburger

- The Original Wineburger

- Luke's Italian Beef

- That's A Wrap (not really divey, but good)

- Best of Philly (Listed as Taste of Philly)

- El Napolito

- Iri'e Jamaican</content>
      <published_at>Tue Jan 29 20:13:52 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3346530</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>129910</id>
        <name>ValleyFever</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>3346647</id>
      <content>Great posting and I agree - - although I rave about Binkleys, nothing beats real down-home food!

I'll probably be admonished for it, but I'll add In-and-Out Burger (double double animal style, fries well-done and a neopolitan shake) and Freddy's Frozen Custard (I don't like their custard but love their steakburger, which is a great Steak and Shake knockoff).  I know they're not exactly where Guy goes (and I can't stand that guy but you have to give him credit for being the only one to win that contest that actually stuck around), and they're also chains, but they're both "gotta have it" food for me every now and then.

Stacy's also had great fried chicken, but not sure if it's still around. I think he was Mrs. Whites nephew or something like that.

Sorry that I couldn't do better on my list, but ValleyFever definitely got the good ones. (Mrs. Whites, Carolina's and TexAz)

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      <published_at>Tue Jan 29 19:13:34 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3344672</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>65085</id>
        <name>ejs1492</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>3346780</id>
      <content>I had a double double, animal style fries, and a neopolitan shake tonight. I am in Carlsbad, CA which a hub of chain restaurants.

Where is Freddy's? I've never heard of it, but I love Steak N Shake and Culver's when I am working in places that have them.

I'd also add Twister Soda Shop in Williams on Route 66. Also, the Sugar Bowl. Nothing beats a Camelback Soda when it is 115 outside.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Jan 29 19:59:55 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3346647</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>129910</id>
        <name>ValleyFever</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>3346848</id>
      <content>adding links. ;-)</content>
      <published_at>Tue Jan 29 20:31:22 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3346780</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>129910</id>
        <name>ValleyFever</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>3346862</id>
      <content>Freddy's Frozen Custard is @ 49th Ave/Bell Rd.

I tried their custard a few months ago and wasn't impressed.

Waiting for Culver's to open at Deer Valley...</content>
      <published_at>Tue Jan 29 20:37:27 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3346780</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>108796</id>
        <name>andyeats</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>3347512</id>
      <content>Freddy's is a very small chain out of the midwest.  I grew up in St Louis and was raised on Steak and Shake and White Castles.  Freddy's is a near-perfect copy of a Steak and Shake steakburger, with the skinny fries also.  But their frozen custard is mediocre at best.  We still trek out there, about 30 miles from our house, for the occasional steakburger craving.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Jan 30 06:43:10 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3346780</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>65085</id>
        <name>ejs1492</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>3349484</id>
      <content>If it not to late.... go to Jay's in Carlsbad. excellent food. </content>
      <published_at>Wed Jan 30 14:10:27 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3346780</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>149338</id>
        <name>Sunkisst</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>3349534</id>
      <content>Yeah, I am here until Friday. I'll be sure to look it up. Thanks!</content>
      <published_at>Wed Jan 30 14:20:05 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3349484</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>129910</id>
        <name>ValleyFever</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>3347140</id>
      <content>my favorite of the dives... Chino Bandido!  I doubt there's anywhere else on the planet that you can order a sweet and sour chicken quesadilla and a machaca burrito with Cuban black beans and jerk chicken fried rice and the counter person doesn't bat an eyelash.

And yes, Fry Bread House does have other things.  Their stews are amazing.  They have red chile, green chile, beef with hominy, and beef with vegetables.  And of course, chocolate-butter frybread for dessert if you somehow still have room.

We Phoenicians do have our own Sonoran hot dog places.  My favorite is the cart that materializes on the corner of 20th Street and Indian School every night from 6 PM til midnight.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Jan 30 00:03:51 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3344672</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10996</id>
        <name>JK Grence the Cosmic Jester</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>3347170</id>
      <content>Is that cart still there? I thought it might have gone away when Guitar and Keyboard City went out of business last year.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Jan 30 00:46:17 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3347140</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>26466</id>
        <name>silverbear</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>3347436</id>
      <content>Yup, still there and very busy.  On any given night, the tables are full and hot dogs are selling like hotcakes.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Jan 30 06:12:14 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3347170</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>10633</id>
        <name>Seth Chadwick</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>3347171</id>
      <content>yeah, I used to eat at that hot dog stand when the Mason Jar was still the Mason Jar. I still get over there every once in a while when I am out late in that area. I've also tried out the ones on Grand and 24th st. All of them are legit. The one in Tucson is a real restaurant though. It started out as a cart like those, but progressed into a real building.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Jan 30 00:49:10 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3347140</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>129910</id>
        <name>ValleyFever</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>3347564</id>
      <content>Really do need to bring Seligman into this conversation. Snow Cap rules.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Jan 30 07:00:44 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3347171</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>159350</id>
        <name>AzDumpling</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>3348162</id>
      <content>I've never been through Seligman. I'll make a point to go off course next time I am up there.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Jan 30 09:33:27 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3347564</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>129910</id>
        <name>ValleyFever</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>5</level>
      <id>3348170</id>
      <content>It is a trip back in time. Well worth the few minute detour even if you do not stop, but you will.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Jan 30 09:36:05 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3348162</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>159350</id>
        <name>AzDumpling</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>3348537</id>
      <content>Niro's Gyros on 48th St. in Tempe is great.  It's just the kind of greasy spoon gyros and hot dogs place that I miss from my days in Chicago.  The fries are great too, they come in a greasy brown paper bag...</content>
      <published_at>Wed Jan 30 10:58:17 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3344672</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>128359</id>
        <name>jcoz23</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>3349151</id>
      <content>You might like Franks-A-Lot on 40th St and Washington. Great hot dogs, and the best chili cheese fries around.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Jan 30 13:02:27 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3348537</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>129910</id>
        <name>ValleyFever</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>3350590</id>
      <content>Can't leave Rito's off the list.  Amazing green chile burritos &amp; awesome beans.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Jan 30 20:00:22 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3344672</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>80169</id>
        <name>ccl1111</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>3350887</id>
      <content>A dive, and the grub is no better than you can get out of a can.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Jan 30 22:10:51 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3350590</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>85615</id>
        <name>misohungrychewlow</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>3350965</id>
      <content>Totally, totally, totally disagree.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Jan 30 23:24:32 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3350887</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>80169</id>
        <name>ccl1111</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>3350974</id>
      <content>I've never been there, but it seems to get pretty favorable reviews other sites. No seating? No parking? That sounds like my kinda place. I will be sure to check it out now. Thanks for the tip. I won't let one bad review stop me from trying it out.

Besides, a dive is part of what I was looking for. </content>
      <published_at>Wed Jan 30 23:32:42 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3350965</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>129910</id>
        <name>ValleyFever</name>
      </user>
    </post>
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