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ric Sep 8, 2001 03:22 PM

I'm going to be in the los angeles and long beach area next week. Any recommendation where I can have a really good pastrami sandwich. Thanks

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    PHIL RE: ric Sep 8, 2001 03:32 PM

    Johnnie's Pastrami on sepulveda in Culver City. Brent's on Parthenia in Northridge. Canter's on Fairfax in Fairfax. The Hat (several locations). A lot of people recommend Langers in downtown L.A. I'ver never been there.

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    1. re: PHIL
      Paul Zollo RE: PHIL Sep 8, 2001 03:42 PM

      AT Victor's Deli in Hollywood, it's first-rate.
      MUCH better than other so-called "delicatessans."
      This is excellent.

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        TE RE: Paul Zollo Sep 9, 2001 09:16 PM

        Paul's trying to keep Victor's to himself by not letting you know where it is.

        It's on the corner of Bronson and Franklin, across Bronson from the Mayfair market (and, Scientologists, across Franklin from the Celebrity Centre). Around the corner from La Poubelle, etc.

        Victor's grind their own coffee, have an OK wine department, and Orson Welles used to stop by for pastries (that was before Victor Benes opened a branch at the Mayfair). There's usually some space in the lot.

        Victor's also has a pretty good restaurant (glorified coffee shop, really) next door.

      2. re: PHIL
        tkn RE: PHIL Sep 9, 2001 04:48 AM

        Then get yourself there immediately! :) Seriously, Langer's is one place you shouldn't pass up. It's on 7th and Alvarado across from McArthur Park. Parking is oddly one block away but you'll see why when you get there.

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          Mike Kilgore RE: PHIL Sep 9, 2001 12:26 PM

          Re. Johnnie's Pastrami on Sepulveda in CC. Have you been lately? I remember eating here a couple of times a few years ago and I thought their pastrami was really pretty bad. Fatty and greasy. Maybe things have changed? Any new info to the contrary would get me to give it another try. Langers has the best pastrami I have ever had, handsdown.

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            PHIL RE: Mike Kilgore Sep 9, 2001 03:03 PM

            Fatty and greasy? mmm mmm good. yummy yummy yummy. no wonder I like it so much.

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              Toni the Tiger RE: PHIL Sep 9, 2001 05:52 PM

              Good to have an idea of your standards, or in this case the lack of same, inorder to avoid your rec's in the future.

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                dkawai RE: Toni the Tiger Sep 10, 2001 12:28 PM

                Sorry, but I have to agree with Phil....love Johnnies pastrami...fatty...yes.....tasty....absolutely!!!!

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                  JenW RE: dkawai Sep 10, 2001 08:06 PM

                  I wonder, What's pastrami without the fat??

                  I suppose on the lighter side they have kick-butt dill pickles (though they mesh oh-so-wonderfully-well with the pastrami). Factor in their toasty fire-pits, late hours of operation and the motley diners...and you have yourself a pretty cOoL establishment.

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                    dkawai RE: JenW Sep 12, 2001 11:15 AM

                    They got fries with crinkles too! Nice and crispy! Fried Chicken is pretty tasty too!

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                    cbabcock RE: dkawai May 22, 2011 11:19 AM

                    Johnnies Pastrami is AWESOME!! fatty...greasy...=delicious!!!

                  3. re: Toni the Tiger
                    glenmore RE: Toni the Tiger Sep 10, 2001 01:09 PM

                    Hey, we're talking pastrami here, not tofu! Langer's pastrami, fatty, sinful and absolutely delicious. Old fashioned milk shakes and malteds. Not crazy about their pickles. Their version is the lightly (green) pickled kind. Professional waiters and waitresses. And if you need any fake id or docs just stand out on the corner for a bit.

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                      PHIL RE: Toni the Tiger Sep 10, 2001 05:01 PM

                      Oh good. Have fun at Real Food Daily.

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                        laliz RE: Toni the Tiger Dec 6, 2011 02:46 PM

                        WYH we're discussing pastrami

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                          Servorg RE: laliz Dec 6, 2011 02:56 PM

                          Just as an FYI - The post you are replying to is over 10 years old.

                    2. re: Mike Kilgore
                      Muhlyssa RE: Mike Kilgore Sep 11, 2001 12:10 AM

                      Still fatty and oily. Avoid at all costs.

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                        elisha RE: Muhlyssa Sep 11, 2001 01:34 AM

                        the hat in alhambra was certainly disappointing.

                      2. re: Mike Kilgore
                        Wes RE: Mike Kilgore Sep 30, 2006 12:47 AM


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                          Wes RE: Mike Kilgore Sep 30, 2006 12:49 AM

                          Johnnie's may be fatty and greasy, but it IS expensive and small.

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                            BeenThereAteThat RE: Wes Dec 5, 2011 11:33 PM

                            That about covers it, Wes. I abandoned Johnnie's a while back.

                            If I want some good ghetto pastrami, I go to Johnny's on Adams.

                            Johnny's Pastrami On Adams
                            4331 W Adams Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90018

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                              kevin RE: BeenThereAteThat Dec 6, 2011 09:48 AM

                              johnny's on adams is pretty terrible too.

                              i much prefer the hat for dirty fast food pastrami, it may still be pretty crappy, but i much much much much prefer it to both johnnie's.

                              1. re: kevin
                                PaulF RE: kevin Dec 6, 2011 10:02 AM

                                I actually much prefer Johnnie's corned beef to their pastrami.

                                I don't dig Johnnie's pastrami. When I go there I either get corned beef, a shrimp sandwich or their hot dog. They also have good chili.

                                They should change their name, IMO. The pastrami in the name is misleading.

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                                  kevin RE: PaulF Dec 6, 2011 10:32 AM

                                  PaulF, this is in reference to Johnnie's Pastrami on Sepulveda (and Washington) in Culver City, right?

                                  yeah, next time i'll have to get the corned beef, i never even knew they had corned beef. is the shrimp sandwich kinda like a fried shrimp po' boy???


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                                    PaulF RE: kevin Dec 6, 2011 11:01 AM

                                    Yep, part of Culver City's famed restaurant row, along with Tito's and Cinco De Mayo.

                                    (Kidding aside, if you're standing in front of Johnnie's you're also walking distance to Yamadaya, Metro Cafe, a pretty good quickie Greek place next to Joxer's Daly [which is next to Yamadaya] and the Halal Burmese place called Jasmine).

                                    And, yep, the corned beef comes on the same french roll or on rye. I find their pastrami to be a bit too fatty (almost hard to chew) but the CB is soft and tasty.

                                    The shrimp sandwich comes on the french roll, with lettuce and tomato. They'll ask if you want mayo. The shrimps are fried (I think they even have a shrimp basket with shrimp and fries.).

                                    Look, JP is not a drive cross town and wait an hour for a table kind of place. But it's a good coffee shop if you're in the area. The coffee is good for coffee shop coffee, the chili is good for coffee shop chili, the hot dog is good with or without the chili, the pie is pretty good and they have a weird retro juke box.

                                    But because of the name, it's the pastrami that they get judged on. It's just not -- to me -- the best thing on the menu.

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                                      kevin RE: PaulF Dec 6, 2011 11:22 AM

                                      I do get your point. I wouldn't drive across town to go there. But Langer's on the other hand, I would. But once again, they are different types of pastrami.

                                      For some reason, I just never realized that they also had corned beef too.

                                      Thanks for the heads up on Joxer's Daly for greek, I never knew it even existed.
                                      And I presume that Yamadaya is a ramen joint?

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                                        PaulF RE: kevin Dec 6, 2011 11:39 AM

                                        Just to clarify.

                                        Joxer's Daly is a sports bar. Next to it, is a Greek place that is decent, not great. I don't know it's name. Yamadaya is the ramen place. They are all around the corner from Johnnie's.

                                        I too drive cross town for Langer's. I just make the distinction became recommendations on a message board take on a life of their own. I wouldn't want someone driving from Eagle Rock or Anaheim just to try Johnnie's corned beef. But if the same person is in my neighborhood, they might like to try it.

                        2. re: PHIL
                          Schudog RE: PHIL Sep 10, 2001 03:09 AM

                          I recently went to "The Hat" in Pasadena and I was very impressed with their pastrami. Served on a french roll with mustard and pickles. I made the mistake of ordering fries and the pastrami. The pastrami is huge and the fries are larger than the largest size fries at any fast food place. Go there very hungry.

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                            Can RE: Schudog Sep 12, 2001 05:44 PM

                            Yes, Langer's was really good, but for the price? I'd have to think twice. For the price of a pastrami sandwich, fries or onion rings, and a soda at The Hat, you'd pay for just the sandwich at Langer's. Whenever we eat at The Hat, we often joke that we need to order extra bread on the side with the pastrami sandwich. You do the math.

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                              kevin RE: Can Sep 30, 2006 07:46 PM

                              you can do the math, but the pastrami at langer's is at the very least ten times better than the hat (and i do sometimes like the hat).

                              so in a nutshell, others and me would probably even pay triple over the cost of a regular pastrami sandwich to have the pleasure of devouring a langer's one.

                              1. re: kevin
                                BeenThereAteThat RE: kevin Dec 5, 2011 11:34 PM

                                Langer's is a completely different pastrami experience than The Hat. You can't compare the two. One is thick-cut deli pastrami in a restaurant; the other is thinner cut in more of a fast-food environment.

                                I love them both.

                          2. re: PHIL
                            EricDC RE: PHIL Dec 6, 2011 01:48 PM

                            I second Johnnie's and Canter's. Both are great.

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                              MattyTCB RE: PHIL May 27, 2014 05:49 PM

                              Was at Langer's today. Grossly overpriced and not that good. I've had better and thicker cut corned beef sandwiches.

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                                mst3k RE: MattyTCB May 27, 2014 08:37 PM

                                Ok. Where?

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                                  kevin RE: MattyTCB May 27, 2014 08:43 PM

                                  Where ?????

                                  Thanks for the dissenting opinion which is always welcome here.

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                                    Jase RE: MattyTCB May 28, 2014 10:05 PM

                                    Langer's is considered by most to be a one trick pony and that trick would be Pastrami, not corned beef.

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                                  Palliser RE: ric Sep 8, 2001 04:54 PM

                                  I was driving down Seventh Street in Long Beach last weekend (around Cherry & Redondo Aves), when I saw a place I think was called Manny's with a giant sign: Best Pastrami Ever...

                                  I wanted to stop but didn't have time -- maybe if you get there, you could tell us what you think!

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                                    Armand RE: ric Sep 8, 2001 09:56 PM

                                    No question. The best pastrami on the west coast is at Langers on Alvarado. Equal to the 2nd Ave Deli in N.Y. City and that says a lot.

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                                      Sandra W. RE: ric Sep 9, 2001 10:42 AM

                                      Ric, FYI, if Langers is where you are headed, they are a breakfast/lunch place only. They close at 4PM. 704 S. Alvarado

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                                      1. re: Sandra W.
                                        armand RE: Sandra W. Sep 9, 2001 02:20 PM

                                        Thanks for providing that info. They are also closed on Sunday. They have a parking lot 1 block east with validation. Also the subway stops close to them. A warning is that the neighborhood is not great, but perfectly safe during the day.

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                                        Bob S II RE: ric Sep 9, 2001 02:09 PM

                                        The rule-of-thumb used to be:

                                        - best pastrami at Langer's
                                        - best corned beef at Art's in Studio City
                                        - best brisket at Nate & Al's in Beverly Hills

                                        This is what the Brooklyn-born Jews told me when they moved me from New York twenty years ago and I lamented the loss of my favorite "real" delis.

                                        Today, I find no reason to disagree. All three are very different and certainly nothing like a New York deli for ambience (or lack thereof). Personally, I think the corned beef at Art's is better than the Stage or Carnegie; 2nd Ave Deli ? That's open to debate.

                                        Try them all and post your opinions back here !

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                                          Armand RE: Bob S II Sep 9, 2001 02:23 PM

                                          Bob S II

                                          If you go to Langers again try the pastrami and chopped liver sandwich. Pure heaven. The rye bread has to be the best anywhere with its crispy crust and soft textured interior.

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                                          Jordan RE: ric Sep 9, 2001 03:41 PM

                                          The best pastrami in L.A. is at Langer's deli on 7th and Alvarado near downtown. They have been there 60+ years and though the neighborhood now is a bit sketchy they are loyal to their downtown clientele and workers and rfuse to move to the Westside where they would be packed day and nite. I've tried all the delis in L.A. and Langer's pastrami on rye is hands down the best.

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                                            Frank Drucker RE: ric Sep 9, 2001 08:10 PM

                                            Langer's is the finest. Tough neighborhood. It's a block from a subway stop.
                                            Bes advicer: Phone the restaurant. They'll take your order, tell you the price, and bring it to your car at the curb together with appropriate change.

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                                            1. re: Frank Drucker
                                              Armand RE: Frank Drucker Sep 9, 2001 08:32 PM

                                              Tough Neighborhood? I disagree. It is a busy hispanic (Central American) neighborhood. My wife and I have never been bothered or hasseled by anybody on the street. We park in the lot a block away and walk in with NO problems. I wouldn't go there at night even if they were opened, but there are many areas in L.A. and Orange County that would be not smart to go into at night, but daytime is ok at Langers. Curb service to avoid walking on the street, I don't think so.

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                                              cincha RE: ric Sep 10, 2001 12:49 PM

                                              a great alternative to langer's if you find yourself on the westside (and looking for a bargain): the ol' time place label's table (on pico b/t la cieniga and robertson). placed in a very orthodox/persian barrio, this neighborhood's a great place to walk around. but the pastrami...new york-style, deliberately thin, pink and shiny, silky slices, piled up as thick as four decks of cards. pickles are to die for,sours as well as half-sours. walk in after 2 pm and any sandwich is a steal.

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                                                2chez mike RE: cincha Sep 10, 2001 01:23 PM

                                                Thanks cincha. I don't think I've ever heard of that place. I'm going to try it sometime. After 2 p.m., that is!

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                                                  David N RE: cincha Sep 10, 2001 01:46 PM

                                                  I just had a Pastrami on Rye at Brent's in Northridge. It was excellent (juicy, rich, etc), however, I can't compare it to Langer's as I've not been there.

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                                                  elisha RE: ric Sep 11, 2001 01:39 AM

                                                  I like label's table also. guess I have to go back to langer's. it's been a long time. but how about greenblatts? pretty good, I think. rather snooty, but the pastrami sandwich was good.

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                                                    Sandra W. RE: ric Sep 11, 2001 09:10 PM

                                                    Okay, okay, all these postings, I have to give my 2 cents:

                                                    Brent's in Northridge, too bland and juicy
                                                    Stage in Century City too dry and spicy
                                                    Art's in Studio City... just right.

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                                                      cs RE: ric Sep 12, 2001 07:00 PM

                                                      pico ave. is the closest thing to 2nd ave. i've tasted in l.a. bread kind of sucks though, you can bring your own.

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                                                        D.L. Ressel RE: ric Sep 17, 2001 04:39 PM

                                                        Hasn't anyone mentioned the CLASSIC Johnny's on
                                                        Sepulveda? It is more of a goysha (spelling?) version, but still remarkable.
                                                        Whenever i am in L.A. it is a must-stop. For Jewish style, I WANT to like Langer's but to tell the truth, it is very good, but not great. Akin to the fall of the great long-lost Pastrami King in Queens, NY (now moved to Manhattan as pastrami queen), it rest on laurels of the past.

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                                                          2chez mike RE: D.L. Ressel Jan 26, 2002 03:41 PM

                                                          I've been to Label's Table three times since reading about it in this thread. Pastrami Sandwich, Corned Beef Sandwich, Brisket Sandwich. All excellent.

                                                          At only six bucks($4.49 at late afternoon special) a sandwich it's on the same plane, if not a higher one, than all the expensive delis, at less than half and(at times) close to a third of the price.

                                                          Every time I walk away satisfied without the feeling of being gouged.

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                                                          kel RE: ric Sep 30, 2006 12:26 AM

                                                          Any current report on Victor's in Hollywood?

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                                                            carter RE: kel Sep 30, 2006 04:48 PM

                                                            Victor's is still one of the best delis in the city, and their sandwiches are terrific, and not quite as expensive as some of its competitors.

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                                                            henrychan888 RE: ric Sep 30, 2006 12:47 AM

                                                            How about "the Hat." they are in many cities now.. Their pastrami has little fat and is very tender. yum.

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                                                              Hackenbush RE: ric Sep 30, 2006 05:38 AM

                                                              I think Langer's serves the best pastrami in Los Angeles.

                                                              That said, I stopped going there for mine. Langer's is inconveniently located. Parking is bad, especially if their lot a block away is full. It has inconvenient hours. It's also a little pricey for what you get. I'm not all that impressed with their potato salad or other sides.

                                                              Yes, they have the best but it's only a little better than a number of other places where I've had happier dining experiences. The last time I went to Canter's, I had a great pastrami sandwich and I also had a terrific bowl of kreplach soup, a great order of potato salad and a superb piece of cake.

                                                              Head to head, Langer's has a better pastrami sandwich than Canter's but I would much rather eat an entire meal at Canter's than Langer's. This is in addition to the fact that Canter's also has a better location and better hours.

                                                              Art's, Brent's, Nate 'n' Al's, Junior's and Label's Table all serve an excellent pastrami sandwich that is only slightly inferior to Langer's. And there are many other things to recommend them.

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                                                                revets2 RE: ric Sep 30, 2006 06:17 AM

                                                                LANGER'S, LANGER'S, LANGER's...go home with a bottle of pickles.

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                                                                  richd2004 RE: revets2 Mar 4, 2008 03:52 PM

                                                                  Totally agree with you on Langer's! have tried Art's,jonnies on sepulveda,canter's,nate n al's,Label's,Factor's and many others. There's just something special about the #19 at Langer's. The pastrami is piled just right! to much and it would take away from the other ingredients! the combination of the rye bread (twice baked) the cole slaw (slighty sweet) and the cheese just blends in perfectly after every bite. Folk's if you haven't tried this sandwich,you are definetely missing out!

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                                                                  upstarter RE: ric Mar 4, 2008 09:16 PM

                                                                  1. You MUST go to Langers. It's THE BEST patrami in LA (#19) i believe with the cole slaw and russian dressing on the sandwhich.

                                                                  BUT DON'T FORGET to ask for your sandwhich "hand cut." It makes a world of difference.
                                                                  Langer's has never disappointed me, especially after i leaned the "hand cut" trick.

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                                                                    mst3k RE: upstarter Jul 29, 2009 10:44 AM

                                                                    I've never been to Langers. I drove there once and couldn't talk myself into parking and going there. I promise to do this some day. Perhaps the subway would be the best route to go.

                                                                    That said: Billy's Deli in Glendale has the best pastrami sandwich I have ever eaten. Melt in your mouth good!

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                                                                      Servorg RE: mst3k Jul 29, 2009 11:54 AM

                                                                      Langers offers "curbside" pick up of your food. Simply call ahead to order and then phone them again when you have arrived. That said, the pastrami is the most dangerous thing you are going to run into down there - seeing as how Langers is only open until 4 PM.

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                                                                        JAB RE: Servorg Jul 29, 2009 12:16 PM

                                                                        They have a parking lot as well which is East of them on 7th on the opposite side of 7th.

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                                                                        J.L. RE: mst3k Jul 29, 2009 05:13 PM

                                                                        Wow this is an old thread (originated 3 days before 9-11!!!).

                                                                        Langer's pastrami #19 is worth the drive, the parking, the wait, and the price.

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                                                                          odub RE: J.L. Jul 30, 2009 12:53 PM

                                                                          I tried Label's Table today after reading through this thread. Prior to that, I have had pastrami sandwiches at: The Hat, Johnnie's, Brent's and Langer's.

                                                                          On the plus side, Label's had, by far, the best bargain. For $8.32 (including tax), I got a proper deli-style hot pastrami. The fact that, b/t 3-6pm, that sandwich would only cost $6 is astounding. Terrific, terrific bargain.


                                                                          It was also the most uninspired pastrami I've had at any of these restaurants. By far.

                                                                          The beauty of Langer's is that those thick slices contain everything you could possibly want from a hot pastrami: the hard crunch of the rye contrasting with how easily your teeth sinking into the rest of the sandwich, the warmth of the meat and bread melting together, the pleasant oiliness of the brisket hitting your mouth instantly, followed by the richness of the beef and pepper lingering after. That sandwich is *perfect* - a dab of mustard adds a nice edge if you like, but even plain, it is one of the best single dishes I've ever had in L.A. Langer's is $ and kind of a pain to get to because of parking and the hours but none of that detracts from how sublime the sandwich itself is.

                                                                          In contrast, Label's sandwich already came with mustard yet when you bite into it you get...nothing. There's no intense "pastrami-ness" that infuses your mouth. Label's has some of the proper texture (and I did like the hard-crust rye they used) but none of the taste. I was taken aback and keep sinking in, hoping to discover the missing flavor but it just never came. It wasn't that it tasted bad. It just didn't taste like anything. In short, it was filling (they make the sandwich big - though not Brent's big) but rather unsatisfying, regardless how affordable.

                                                                          So far, my LA pastrami list would be...

                                                                          1) Langer's (I don't need to rehash but seriously, this is so ahead of the pack)
                                                                          2) The Hat (you know, from jump, it's not good for you. But damnit, it does taste really good)
                                                                          3) Brent's (they don't scrimp on the meat, which is nice, but quantity does not equal quality. It's a good sandwich, just not Langer's.
                                                                          4) Label's: Price wins here but that's about it.
                                                                          5) Johnnie's: To me, it's an inferior version of The Hat but just as (if not more) expensive. Meh. I live relatively close to Johnnie's but have never had an inkling to eat there again after the first time I tried it.

                                                                          1. re: odub
                                                                            ozhead RE: odub Jul 30, 2009 01:58 PM

                                                                            I agree 100% about Langers v. Label's Table. I go to Label's occasionally (the store in Woodland Hills/Calabasas), but never for pastrami -- usually for breakfast. If I want pastrami, it's Langers.

                                                                            This leads me to my main points: people expressing concern about the safety of Langers's neighborhood, and complaining about the parking difficulties.

                                                                            As to safety: for goodness sake, folks, Langers closes at 4 -- you are there in broad daylight, there are a million people around, there's plenty of police presence (often right in the restaurant, where cops are enjoying their #19); what is your concern? Granted, it might be dicey to go across the street and into the park after dark, but not going into Langers (or being in the neighborhood) during the day. You might as well say you are concerned about your safety on Atlantic Ave. in Monterey Park at dim-sum time on a weekend -- after all, there are lots of THOSE PEOPLE around. Lighten up.

                                                                            As to parking: Piece of cake. Langers has its own parking lot, a block east of the restaurant (corner of Westlake and 7th St.) Parking is free with a validation from the restaurant, and I have never failed to find a spot in the lot. Or if you are near a subway station, the Red Line has a stop a block north of the restaurant, on Alvarado. Problem solved.

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                                                                              odub RE: ozhead Jul 30, 2009 03:03 PM

                                                                              Ozhead: I agree that people grossly overstate the "sketchiness" of the neighborhood. The class and racial undertones here are THICK and as you note, completely misplaced.

                                                                              However, I think the issues around parking are more legitimate insofar as street parking can be a pain to find. Yes, they have a lot, but it's not intuitively located and for a first-timer, it may not be readily obvious that it's free for customers. That said, it's hardly the most inconvenient place to find parking in the city.

                                                                              It does suck they don't stay open for dinner though.

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                                                                                ozhead RE: odub Jul 30, 2009 04:29 PM

                                                                                If "intuitively located" means "adjacent," you are correct: Langer's parking lot is not right next to the restaurant, it is a block away.

                                                                                On the other hand, (1) most folks -- and obviously anybody frequenting this board -- have Internet accessl (2) Langer's has a website (http://www.langersdeli.com); (3) it's easy to find the website (you google "Langer's deli" and it is the very first hit); a click on the "hours and directions" tab on the main page reveals this: "Parking. Langer's maintains its own, monitored parking lot at the northeast corner of 7th Street and Westlake, one block east of our restaurant location. Parking is validated for one hour; please get the ticket from the attendant and have it stamped by the cashier when you leave." What I'm saying is: all a "first-timer" has to do is about 20 seconds of elementary Internet research, and poof! parking problems resolved!

                                                                                1. re: ozhead
                                                                                  odub RE: ozhead Jul 30, 2009 04:42 PM

                                                                                  C'mon, if you know anything about L.A., it's that "a block away" = "far." ;)

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                                                                                    Will Owen RE: odub Jul 30, 2009 05:09 PM

                                                                                    ...and if you're elderly and no longer a mere slip of a thing, that trudge uphill to the lot on a very full tummy (particularly one THAT size) can be more than daunting. Especially if you then discover you left your wallet on the counter... ;-)

                                                                                    But you know what? It's still the best, and certainly worth it!

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                                                                                      ozhead RE: Will Owen Jul 31, 2009 09:52 AM

                                                                                      Aww, c'mon, Will. I'm 62 and my knees are 145, but it's not THAT bad a trudge.

                                                                        2. re: mst3k
                                                                          SoCal Foodie RE: mst3k Jul 31, 2009 01:28 PM

                                                                          The pastrami meat and pickles at Billy's are good, but whenever I order it on on rye - the bread just disintegrates. Their French roll isn't any better - very spongy rather than crispy.

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                                                                        SF Bill RE: ric Jul 13, 2010 09:10 PM

                                                                        The Hat is pre-cut then reheated in hot greasy water. It's not awful cheaper than the delis but lack the exquisite texture and marbled quality of a hand-cut pastrami like Katz' in New York. Billy's and Factor's are dry, plain and simple (get a loaf of their rye bread instead). Nate & Al's is decent as is Juniors and Brent's. I haven't been to Art's in ages but they used to be good. Despite bad rap from some I think Canters is pretty darn good.

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                                                                          odub RE: SF Bill Jul 14, 2010 11:26 PM

                                                                          My thing with The Hat is definitely NOT that it's good pastrami. I can't offer a defense for its quality yet...I still enjoy it as a sandwich. To me, it's the equivalent of a greasy spoon diner where you enjoy the food...despite knowing better.

                                                                          BTW, I finally tried the pastrami at Oinkster again, 4 years after the last time. And once again, I reconfirmed: dull and bland + inferior bread. The pulled pork is, by far, the best thing they have (and even then, it's nothing to write home about).

                                                                          Good horchata shake though.

                                                                          2005 Colorado Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90041

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                                                                          dharmathug RE: ric Jul 14, 2010 12:22 AM

                                                                          as Odub described so eloquently, Langers delivers the best pastrami I've ever tried. In fact, I'm going out on a limb to say the #10 may be the best sandwich I've ever had. My jaw almost dropped open - I literally did a double take in my mouth and almost let it spill out, such a shock of delight was it.
                                                                          #10 is just russian dressing, cheese, that delectable pastrami and the perfect rye bread. I don't believe in adding cole slaw to it, #19, that would be overkill and detract from the perfect confluence of flavors. On the side, thank you!

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                                                                            schellter RE: dharmathug Jun 24, 2011 07:29 PM

                                                                            #10 and #19 both muck it up with cheese. Only Woody Allen would put cheese on pastrami. The best sandwich at Langers is #1 - PASTRAMI Cole Slaw, Russian Style Dressing.
                                                                            U don't need no stinkin cheese

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                                                                              mst3k RE: schellter Jun 24, 2011 07:52 PM

                                                                              Says, you! :) :)

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                                                                                schellter RE: mst3k Jun 24, 2011 08:49 PM

                                                                                Well ya, but there is a reason they call it #1. You ever eat there?

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                                                                                  mst3k RE: schellter Jun 24, 2011 09:33 PM

                                                                                  Of course. Regardless of which one you get it's the best pastrami I've ever eaten. i was just kiddin ya about the cheese. :)

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                                                                                Servorg RE: schellter Jun 25, 2011 06:27 AM

                                                                                Some folks like their burgers without cheese. Do you think adding cheese to your burger, "mucks it up?" Doubtful. Same thing with turkey sandwiches or roast beef or what have you. Same with pastrami. You don't like cheese. Fine. I like it. Also fine. Mucking has NOTHING to do with it, but rather personal TASTE preference covers this area. There may some residual holdover for folks who come from a family background in which religious dietary law says that one doesn't mix dairy with meat. But I don't let others dogma determine my food choices.

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                                                                                  bulavinaka RE: Servorg Jun 25, 2011 06:41 AM

                                                                                  Amen - D'oh!

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                                                                                    Servorg RE: bulavinaka Jun 25, 2011 07:37 AM


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                                                                                      kevin RE: Servorg Jun 25, 2011 11:31 AM

                                                                                      i'm not really a fan of cheese on my pastrami, and if i do i always feel bad because i gussied and wasted the flavor of the pastrami with the addition of cheese. a little spicey mustard will do or some slices of tomato once in a while.

                                                                                      Damn, now i gotta go to langers, and i'm only a mile away.

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                                                                                        A5 KOBE RE: kevin Dec 5, 2011 10:05 PM

                                                                                        Cheese is perfectly fine with pastrami. The black pastrami rueben is 10x better than the plain pastrami at Brent's. I actually prefer the rueben pastrami at Katz over the pastrami on rye.

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                                                                                  Ernie RE: schellter Jul 12, 2011 11:59 AM

                                                                                  I agree! No. 1 at Langers is No. 1. The cheese is too much gilding for this lily

                                                                              3. MoreBeerHere RE: ric Jul 10, 2011 11:51 AM

                                                                                People have suggested Langer's ( I have never been there but heard nothing but good things !) Depends on where I am at in the city but I do like Johnnies Pastrami in Culver City,Coles in downtown L.A. ( see posted photo), Philippe's in Chinatown ( PERFECT before a Dodger game !!), The Hat (various locations),also Canter's ( another that I have yet to go to but heard great things about !)

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                                                                                  Sam D. RE: MoreBeerHere Jul 11, 2011 12:50 AM

                                                                                  You had pastrami at Philippe's?

                                                                                  Pardon me if I'm wrong but I don't think that in their 100+ year history they have ever served a pastrami sandwich.

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                                                                                    MoreBeerHere RE: Sam D. Jul 11, 2011 05:50 PM

                                                                                    OOOppss; Got a little ahead of myself there and I do stand corrected!! Don't know what I was thinking of but I have NEVER had pastrami at Philippe's .I couldn't have as they don't have it on their menu.All of the sandwiches that they do have are wonderful. ( Perhaps this is why I like Cole's !!).Thanks for the heads up and I apologize for any confusion !!

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                                                                                  Sandra W RE: ric Jul 12, 2011 10:47 AM

                                                                                  Smoke City Market on Van Nuys Blvd. is serving their own version of pastrami. It's nothing like Langers, but very tasty if you're in the mood for a completely different flavor.

                                                                                  Smoke City Market
                                                                                  5242 Van Nuys Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 91401

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                                                                                    chowgary RE: ric Dec 5, 2011 06:48 PM

                                                                                    5 St*rs for the best pastrami that I have ever had. Lean, low fat, thinly sliced, not over salted, french roll with paper coated foil around the sandwich. It is baked this way to toast the roll.

                                                                                    Toasty, warm, juicy, and the best I've found in the past 15 years.

                                                                                    I hope you fellows enjoy it as much as I did. I ate one, then the next day I ate one at The Hat, then I ate one the fourth day at Georges. I and my guests all three of us agreed that George's is tops.


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                                                                                      The Professor RE: chowgary Dec 5, 2011 07:26 PM

                                                                                      Lean, low fat pastrami?? That is a major FAIL.

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                                                                                        Tripeler RE: The Professor Dec 5, 2011 07:39 PM

                                                                                        A guy at a deli once asked me

                                                                                        "The Pastrami? Yeah, you want it lean or you want it GOOD?"

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                                                                                        Peripatetic RE: chowgary Dec 5, 2011 07:57 PM

                                                                                        What "George's" are you talking about? George's Burgers in Santa Monica? Georgee's Pizza in La Canada Flintridge? Somewhere else?

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                                                                                          chowgary RE: chowgary Dec 6, 2011 08:03 AM

                                                                                          Sorry for missing the location. I did type in the full name and location on a line in the form where it said this is a review of a specific restaurant but that somehow did not show up on the post.

                                                                                          It was George's Char Broiled Burgers on Lincoln and Marine in Venice, CA.

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                                                                                            Peripatetic RE: chowgary Dec 6, 2011 10:48 AM

                                                                                            Place link: George's Burgers

                                                                                            George's Burgers
                                                                                            3101 Lincoln Blvd, Santa Monica, CA 90405

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                                                                                              kevin RE: Peripatetic Dec 6, 2011 10:50 AM

                                                                                              where's george's burgers?

                                                                                              if i'm not mistaken, there's a missing place link?

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                                                                                                Servorg RE: kevin Dec 6, 2011 10:57 AM

                                                                                                You can see George's on the map in the upper right above represented by the letter "A" (it's on the east side of Lincoln and the south side of Marine).

                                                                                        2. BeenThereAteThat RE: ric Dec 5, 2011 11:38 PM

                                                                                          So, ric, did you ever make it to LA?

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                                                                                            cimero RE: ric Dec 6, 2011 03:15 PM

                                                                                            I won't say it's necessarily the "best" pastrami, but I LOVE Greenblatt's in Hollywood and don' think anyone has mentioned it yet. Great pickles too! And go at night and you'll almost always catch comedians from the comedy club next door so good odds of a celeb sighting too.

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                                                                                              Peripatetic RE: cimero Dec 6, 2011 03:43 PM

                                                                                              Completely agree. I used to live near Greenblatts, and it was one of my favorite "regular rotation" places. I particularly like their "Reuben" with corned beef and pastrami. And they have beer -- good beer, even. And they're open 365 days a year,

                                                                                              It definitely scratched the pastrami itch when MacArthur Park and Northridge seemed too far to drive.

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                                                                                                kevin RE: Peripatetic Dec 6, 2011 03:59 PM

                                                                                                and good wines too, at least, for a deli.

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                                                                                                silvalli RE: cimero Jan 18, 2013 10:52 PM

                                                                                                I think Greenblatt's pastrami on rye with pickle and Dijon is excellent in every way. It's a small, upscale place, and it smells great in there. I relied on them for 15 years.

                                                                                                Open From 9 A.M. Until 2 A.M. 365 Days A Year!

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                                                                                                froeh RE: ric Feb 13, 2013 06:49 AM

                                                                                                I always liked the pastrami on french roll at the Stuffed Sandwich (1145 E Las Tunas Drive) in San Gabriel. Piled high and french dipped. Awesome. To wash it down, their beer selection is 2nd to none. Cheers!

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                                                                                                  kevin RE: froeh Feb 13, 2013 10:11 AM

                                                                                                  Yes to the beers. Not quite to the sandwich, though I still like it.

                                                                                                  It may just be the best place in the whole, entire fucking world for beers, bar none.

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                                                                                                    bulavinaka RE: froeh Feb 13, 2013 05:51 PM

                                                                                                    I look at The Stuffed Sandwich as more of a primo beer paradise where the price to play is a sandwich - an okay to pretty good sandwich. How much I like the sandwich depends on how shit-faced I am.

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                                                                                                      kevin RE: bulavinaka Feb 13, 2013 07:08 PM

                                                                                                      I agree with you, 110%.

                                                                                                      The only problem is getting shit-faced there is a pricey cab ride back to West LA, but as long as you get there at lunch time and don't leave until closing you should be good to go.

                                                                                                      Once again, best beer selection in the world.

                                                                                                      though I have to say that since the proprietor got ill, it's not as fun, because part of the fun was his descriptions of the beer and irreverent humor, he would be a beer nazi of sorts, but in the best possible way possible.

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                                                                                                        Servorg RE: kevin Feb 13, 2013 07:17 PM

                                                                                                        "...he would be a beer nazi of sorts, but in the best possible way possible."

                                                                                                        Sieg Ale!

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                                                                                                    mst3k RE: ric May 29, 2014 08:59 PM

                                                                                                    Being a huge fan of Langers, I gotta say. This place pretty much rules.


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                                                                                                      mst3k RE: ric May 30, 2014 11:08 PM

                                                                                                      New York Famous Deli in Eagle Rock is pretty danged awewome.

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