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Second St. Cafe: Shuttering or ?

famdoc Jan 26, 2008 08:08 PM

Noted paper covering the windows of the Second St. Cafe today and a few passersby saying it had closed? Truth or fiction?

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    sadarami Jan 27, 2008 06:34 PM

    definitely closed, heard it from one of the owners

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      elecsheep9 Jan 28, 2008 06:46 AM

      Wow...and they just recently renovated the place. Bummer, but I had noticed a drop in quality over the past few recent years.

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        sam1 Jan 28, 2008 07:26 AM

        if this is true, that would be insane since they just renovated.

        i was never a huge fan but it was a solid casual joint at times. horrible crowd though.

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          jen kalb Jan 28, 2008 07:36 AM

          not my kind of place but they were one of the older restaurants on that strip - Id chance the view that their rent went up.

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        flo Jan 30, 2008 08:50 AM

        Sad to hear. Very nice, hard working people, and an institution in PS, albeit not a foodie destination. I also heard from the owner that his lease had recently gotten renewed. Strange story, indeed.

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        josh L Jan 28, 2008 08:25 AM

        Good Riddance. Another candidate for Gordon Ramsey bites the dust.

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          famdoc Jan 28, 2008 11:25 AM

          josh...harsh words. It may not have been your favorite, but it was kid-friendly, had a decent prix-fixe, apparently a good brunch, etc. I ate there less than once a year, but I don't understand the "good riddance." There are hard-working people in the restaurant business who invest lots of their time and money without tremendous financial rewards. 2nd Ave. Cafe was there for 10 years...longer than most PS restaurants. I think they were the victims of greedy landlords (just look at how many other shuttered businesses there are on Seventh Ave. between 2nd and 3rd: Tempo Presto, the bookstore, etc.).

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            sam1 Jan 28, 2008 12:37 PM

            im with famdoc...it wasnt amazing but it wasnt the worst by any stretch...solid burger and brunch options especially when i lived a block away on 8th ave.

            what i dont get is why did they renovate? shouldnt they have had some inkling that their business was in jeopardy?

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              jen kalb Jan 28, 2008 02:25 PM

              lookit, this is Chowhound you have to expect some passion about food.
              this was a useful neighborhood utility place, right, but no more. We can always hope that something better will open there.

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                josh L Jan 29, 2008 08:45 AM

                thanks jen. we can always hope, right?

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                acemdin Jan 28, 2008 02:52 PM

                I second famdoc's kinder, gentler approach. The only time I ate there it was better than anticipated. But I too don't understand why a business would invest in renovating without knowing they are secure for several years. Maybe it wasn't about a rent increase. For example, perhaps they were offered a good price for their lease. Perhaps some day we'll know.

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                  famdoc Jan 28, 2008 03:16 PM

                  At least one Brooklyn-based blog said the renovation was done to move the entrance further from 321...something having to do with serving alcohol too close to a school.

                  While I suggested the closure had something to do with rent, it may be something more ominous: sudden restaurant closures often have more to do with conflicts between owners, unusual debt, shady deals, etc.

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                    redgirl Jan 28, 2008 06:19 PM

                    i know that they recently signed a long new lease which is another reason for the renovation so it's odd why they just closed. i think it might be more about taxes or something. sad because they were hard working owners.

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                josh L Jan 28, 2008 12:38 PM

                While I am no fan of greedy landlords, I will not mourn the closing of the 2nd street cafe which churned out mediocre to terrible food for ten years plus. The owners should have invested in a decent chef. That location is a gold mine.

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              acemdin Feb 1, 2008 02:39 PM

              The new Brooklyn Paper quotes one of the former owners attributing the closing to declining business and, yes, higher rent.

              http://www.brooklynpaper.com/stories/...

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                francesb Feb 1, 2008 03:29 PM

                five or six years ago, my husband and i ate brunch there every weekend. pancakes were great, and there was a cute busser that i had a mild crush on. the last few times we went, we walked out because we sat for 7-8 minutes (long time, in restaurant terms) waiting for someone to ask us if we wanted a cup of coffee while we watched (and listened to) hordes of overprivileged park slope children run amok. i'm a fan of purity diner for breakfast now.

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