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casey480 Jan 25, 2008 11:41 AM

I've been making a cursory attempt at finding veal bones, shanks, knuckles, etc for making stock, but I haven't had much luck. Can anyone recommend a great butcher in phoenix where I might find things like this?

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  1. Firenza00 RE: casey480 Jan 25, 2008 11:56 AM

    We like Von Hansons Meat Market in Chandler. Hobe Meats at 16th St and Bethany Home is pretty good too. Midwestern Meats in Mesa is also a favorite of ours. EJ's in Mesa is small, but has some good stuff too.

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    Midwestern Meats
    4308 E Main St, Mesa, AZ 85205

    Hobe Meat
    6044 N 16th St, Phoenix, AZ 85016

    Von Hanson's Meats & Spirits
    2390 N Alma School Rd, Chandler, AZ 85224

    EJ's Steakhouse & Meat Shop
    5609 E. McKellips Road, Mesa, AZ 85215

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      jhenner RE: casey480 Jan 25, 2008 11:57 AM

      When you say Phoenix, do you mean Phoenix proper or the surrounding Phoenix area? Three butchers I can rattle off the top of my head are Butcher Bob's, in Surprise, Von Hanson's, in Chandler, and Hobe Meats, in Phoenix.

      Others talk about finding good quality cuts at their local Whole Foods or AJ's. You may want to look there as well.

      Ethnic markets, such as Ranch Market or Lee Lee's are also a good place to find offal. I also remember seeing beef knuckles at a Fresh and Easy in Litchfield Park.

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      Hobe Meat
      6044 N 16th St, Phoenix, AZ 85016

      Von Hanson's Meats & Spirits
      2390 N Alma School Rd, Chandler, AZ 85224

      Butcher Bob's Quality Meats
      11663 W Bell Rd # 2, Surprise, AZ

      1. hohokam RE: casey480 Jan 25, 2008 12:12 PM

        In my experience, it depends on what exactly you happen to be looking for.

        If you'll pardon my gross generalization...from what I can tell most of the large Anglo-oriented supermarkets do not break down whole carcasses, so what you see in the display case is pretty much what they have, period.

        The Latino-oriented markets (e.g., Food City, Phoenix Ranch Market), on the other hand, do seem to work with just about all parts of the cow and pig. So, if you're looking for cuts like oxtail, beef knuckle, pork neck bones, these are the places to explore.

        I've never really sought out veal, so I don't know for sure what to recommend there. You might try contacting some of the local independent butchers to see if they can special order the cuts you're looking for.

        Although I'm hesitant to recommend them, Hobe Meats claims that they can get "anything from alligator to zebra" [wince].

        Butcher Bob's includes veal shank in their product list, so that might be worth checking out.
        http://butcherbobsinc.com/complete_pr...

        AJ's MIGHT carry veal shank, but I doubt you'll find knuckle, etc there.

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        Phoenix Ranch Market III
        1602 E Roosevelt St, Phoenix, AZ 85006

        Hobe Meat
        6044 N 16th St, Phoenix, AZ 85016

        AJ's Purveyor of Fine Foods
        5017 N Central Ave, Phoenix, AZ 85012

        Butcher Bob's Quality Meats
        11663 W Bell Rd # 2, Surprise, AZ

        Phoenix Ranch Market
        5833 S Central Ave, Phoenix, AZ

        Phoenix Ranch Market
        3223 W Indian School Rd, Phoenix, AZ

        Food City
        2124 E Mcdowell Rd, Phoenix, AZ

        Food City
        1940 W Indian School Rd, Phoenix, AZ

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          azkenreid RE: hohokam May 12, 2008 11:19 AM

          I live around the corner from Hobe meats. Other than a dank smell in the place, I didn't find them that much different than my local Fry's or Safeway. I didn't expect to find a pork belly at Safeway when I wanted one, but I did expect to find one at a "real" butcher like Hobe's. They said that they couldn't get a pork belly, didn't smoke their own bacon and didn't even slice it. Any knuckle head can fill a case with sliced bacon. I was looking for a butcher. I'm still looking.

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            hohokam RE: azkenreid May 12, 2008 11:47 AM

            That's odd about the pork belly. While I've never it for sale there, I would have guessed that they would at least be able (and eager) to order it for you, given that they've hit me with the "Everything from Alligator to Zebra" line just about every time I've walked in the door. Maybe they can order pork belly only in large quantities?

            FWIW, I remember seeing pork belly for sale at Loi Phat grocery, which is in the same shopping center as Da Vang on Camelback at 17th Ave.

            As I recall, the board favorite bacon seems to be from the Pork Shop out in Queen Creek, but I've yet to try it myself.

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            The Pork Shop
            3359 E Combs Rd, Queen Creek, AZ 85242

            Loi Phat Oriental Food Grocery
            1702 W Camelback Rd # 5, Phoenix, AZ

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              azkenreid RE: hohokam May 12, 2008 01:24 PM

              I thought it was odd too. Maybe they were having a bad day, or maybe I was. I was reading up on the Pork Shop this morning. I'm going to visit this weekend. It sounds like the kind of place where I should take 50 bucks cash and leave everything else at home! I'll have a look at Loi Phat. Thanks

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                hohokam RE: azkenreid May 12, 2008 01:42 PM

                Based on my own experience and comments of others, it seems that the service at Hobe goes through some serious ups and downs.

                Be warned, if you thought Hobe was funky, Loi Phat might just knock you for loop. For a less gritty experience, you might also try the meat counter at the Super L Ranch Market at the Chinese Cultural Center complex.

                Best of luck!

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                Super L Ranch Market
                668 N 44th St, Phoenix, AZ 85008

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                  aaronling RE: hohokam May 12, 2008 01:59 PM

                  If you're going to go for an oriental supermarket, I have heard from many people that the Lee Lee's in Chandler is more fresh.

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                  Lee Lee Oriental Supermarket
                  2025 N Dobson Rd, Chandler, AZ 85224

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                dombey RE: hohokam Sep 14, 2010 08:49 PM

                yeah there is a place called "Gourmet Imports Wild Game" somewhere in phoenix that can get you a whole side of hippopotamus on a few days of notice. I'm sure they sell to anyone in the area claiming to be able to order "whatever you want". If you call the number and get the voicemail it says something about "if you're calling from africa about a delivery..." (or at least it used to).
                I don't get the pork belly not being available at hobe. But you can get it at some of the asian places around town like the Super L.

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                hzp RE: azkenreid May 12, 2008 03:54 PM

                Hobe -grrrrrrr.I've been really shocked at their treatment of people I've heard about as well as myself. No reason for it.

                Have you tried Butcher Bobs? Jason, the owner, is SO nice, he really tries to please people. They're all the way at 115 and Bell, but they deliver.

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                  grizz_1 RE: azkenreid Sep 12, 2010 09:29 AM

                  Try the pork shop for pork .They are at 3359 E.Combs rd. Queen Creek ph. # 480-987-0101. Grate place for pork.

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                ziggylu RE: casey480 Jan 25, 2008 12:47 PM

                Not a lot of good options for veal...I usually get it at Whole Foods or Ajs when I buy it. Both will order anything for you if they'd don't have it on hand(including bones if you want to make stock)

                My pork comes from the Pork Shop out in Queen Creek. It's a long way but worth the drive. We take a cooler down every few months and stock up...the chops there are by far the best I've had in Phoenix...same with the loin roasts, ham hocks and well, just everything.

                I'm not a big fan of Von Hanson's personally. I hear the bacon is great, i haven't tried it(see Pork Shop above, we stock up there) but I've been disappointed the couple times I've tried the beef from Von Hansons.

                I have not yet made it to EJ's out in Mesa. I have some friends that live out what way that swear it's absolutely fantastic and I know there have been very positive reviews here. Am planning to give it a try sometime soon.

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                  Firenza00 RE: ziggylu Jan 25, 2008 12:58 PM

                  I forgot about The Pork Shop. It does have some really good bacon. We'd rate it second behind Von Hanson's.
                  And it IS a drive, but like ziggylu said, take a cooler and stock up. TPS is near the Queen Creek Olive Mill and Schnepf Farms, so you can make a real trip out of it if you want.

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                  The Pork Shop
                  3359 E Combs Rd, Queen Creek, AZ 85242

                  Schnepf Farms
                  24810 South Rittenhouse Road, Queen Creek, AZ 85242

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                    ejs1492 RE: ziggylu Jan 25, 2008 02:34 PM

                    LOVE The Pork Shop! I drove 125 miles round trip from N. Scottsdale to pick up a $20 pork belly there. They thought I was crazy but I loved the place!

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                      JerryMe RE: ejs1492 Sep 14, 2010 05:33 PM

                      Have heard about the Pork Shop but have not wanted to make the trip. Kudos to you EJS - 120 RT? I shrink at a 60 RT!

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                      azhotdish RE: ziggylu Jan 25, 2008 04:22 PM

                      I've purchased veal from Midwestern Meats in Mesa.
                      http://www.midwesternmeats.com/

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                      Midwestern Meats
                      4308 E Main St, Mesa, AZ 85205

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                      Sherri RE: casey480 Jan 25, 2008 01:24 PM

                      I've just made a large pot of golden veal stock using breast bones from Bashas' grocery store. Granted, I bought the whole breast, all 20 pounds of it, but the behind the counter butcher was happy to order it for me. After boning out the meat, I roasted the bones and made some great stock. They are happy to order shank bones as well but I've never asked about veal knuckle. I think it is worth the efort to find a friendly butcher at your local market and establish a good working relationship. My experience is that once they realize that you are serious about getting good product, they're happy to assist.

                      I absolutely second the rec to check out the ethnic markets. Lee Lee's has been a great source of less-common cuts as is the local Food City.

                      Edit: I have just re-read the OP and realize this does not answer your original question re: best butcher in Phoenix. Veal bones - yes, Best Butcher - sorry, but no.

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                        ziggylu RE: Sherri Jan 25, 2008 01:29 PM

                        Sherri, seriously, what Bashas are you shopping at that you're gettig nice fish and they're ordering veal for you?! I'm generally a fan of Bashas when it comes to the larger grocers - mostly because of the Bashas themselves and their contributions to the community but the meat and fish counter at the one by house is nothing special and I've found the people behind the counter to be not so willing to go beyond what's in the store. I wonder if it's a hit or miss thing??

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                          Sherri RE: ziggylu Jan 25, 2008 01:35 PM

                          Ziggylu, I live waaaaay out east, Gold Canyon, and treasure my local store. It likely is hit or miss because I've been in lots of stores in my day and this doesn''t always happen. Generally, I move on. In fact, there are a couple of people at this location who aren't at all helpful so I don't deal with them. But the good guys are treasures and I am very lucky. Keep hunting. Talk to them and try to engage some level of professional interest. Many are proud of their work and happy to share knowledge.

                      2. JerryMe RE: casey480 Sep 14, 2010 05:31 PM

                        Food City NWC of 19th Avenue and Indian School. Ask for Cory (he speaks English). He's had to special order but as Hohokam said "Anglo-oriented supermarkets do not break down whole carcasses". Really good service there. I cannot recommend them enough.

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                        Food City
                        1940 W Indian School Rd, Phoenix, AZ

                        1. drewb123 RE: casey480 Sep 21, 2010 04:20 PM

                          I like midwestern meats in mesa. Not sure if they have what your looking for but give them a call. Great meat!

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